Underscoring the very real threat that remains of an American war against Iran, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs today declared that the Obama Administration will not rule out attacking Iran over its decision to enrich uranium to 20 percent.
Gibbs accused Iran of repeatedly refusing administration offers of diplomatic negotiations, declaring this was proof that the Iranian nuclear program is not for civilian purposes.
In fact, Iran and the United States did take part in diplomatic negotiations in October, resulting in the draft enrichment deal. Iran also offered additional talks in November and December related to the deal, but were rebuffed and condemned by officials for the proposed talks.
Far from refusing to make agreements with the West related to its nuclear program, Iran actually accepted the draft enrichment deal earlier this month, as repeatedly demanded by the Obama Administration. The acceptance too was roundly condemned by Western officials, though mysteriously many have continued to demand that Iran accept the deal for weeks since the acceptance was already made.
Step by step they've dragged us to this war. Not just Obama, but W before him. It would be fascinating to watch if it weren't so horrifying. The only thing that makes this war inevitable is the creeping perception, nurtured over a decade or more, that it is inevitable. No one can give a coherent explanation as to why it should happen. In fact, they regularly contradict themselves – most laughably the other day: on one hand they continued to hype the supposed Iran nuke threat, while on the other hand they declared that Iran couldn't even enrich uranium to 20% (without bothering to explain the scientific process that would allow them to leapfrog 20% on the way from 4% to 90%).
There is no reason to the reason. There is no there there. Iran must be attacked … just because.
Well, the real reason is Empire, but that's the rapidly growing elephant in the room which we must all not talk about, for it just isn't polite, though the elephant is wrecking the house and leaving crap all over the neighborhood … it's just not something polite people talk about.
"Well, the real reason is Empire…"
The real reason is not empire–unless you are talking about a specifically *theological* empire.
The real reason is the preservation of theological error: the Pharisaical doctrine of the physical raising of a dead body from the grave; when Isaiah, Daniel, Jesus and Mohammed taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.
The contradiction of this ONE Doctrinal Truth is at the foundation of EVERY theological error which 'justifies' violence and bloodshed among and between Jews, Christians and Muslims.
huh ?
There is no rhyme or reason to the US Goverment's policy towards Iran unless the desired end result is war. It is war with Iran that the foriegn policy elites in the United States government and their sycophants in MSM want, and as Mr. Jason Ditz has so ably proved, they are not above telling any lie or engaging in any logical contradiction to get their war.
What people should be aware is that for ordinary people war with Iran will mean that we´re back in 1932 economically because of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz.
An attack on Iran is inevitable, probably has been since the embassy-hostage crises. Many Americans would welcome the attack I'm sure at least those alive in the late 70's and early 80's.
Poor Iran, they're damned if they do and they're damned if they don't. Some advice for the Iranians: "never negotiate with warmongering psychopaths. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience (i.e. Iraq)."
The insanity never stops. They won't be happy until this planet is blown out of existance. Thats whats going to happen. Sooner than later.
Dr, Strangelove all of the war party…
Have these US dolt's that put israhell first forgotten about what Russia and China have said? The USA is on the wrong side once again because our so called leaders have sold us out.
Some day in their haste to bomb everyone in sight (and out of sight) the yanks are going to end up nuking themselves…… and then we can all live in peace……. oh, I have a dream…
Except half of the American people have no support whatsoever for these war mongering cretins, if you has said nuke D.C. I might be with you, but leave out the rest of the hundreds of millions of Americans like myself who hate imperialism with a passion.
Please Mr. Gibb's and the Obama White House, give the IAEA the right to correctly monitor all the nuclear actvities in Iran (as they are currently doing) and don't prejudge those observations of fact. I know that the White House is filled with American Jewish advisers who wish to push the Israeli position, but wake up America and learn where it could lead. Those opinions have already exhausted your wealth in Iraq and Afgahnistan for the sake of making Israel more secure (i doubt it) at the expense of American security. Go figure!
Do Americans hate Imperialism? I tend to think they like to remain deliberately ignorant of such but do not hate it in the least! They may express denials that US is an Empire and try to brake its policys down to various sub sections in comparisons to old empires, and or as the religio fanatics do place all the blame on their Gods determination from centuries past.
How many americans understand just how overly powerfull todays militiary has become, and with it a political and economic grouping that makes constant warfare a DUTY of United States to Perform.
Read a new book release etitled; The Forty Years War, to see the true US International and yes domestic policys and how and whom controls them.
The greatest threat to US security indeed comes from those of the Industrial Miitary Scientific and political upper reaches, a grouping far removed from most domestic populatons abioity to govern.
They govern, Rule, and the populace reacts in whatever means they determine for us to react.
Our Intellectual communitys debate it but then they get paid to do so, with no threat of losing that pay, as such they are a part of the problem with no soolutions.
The United States is financially insolvent no matter how much they point the finger to China, the EU, the Greeks, the system is in crisis and the system does not know how to reform itself, besides the ideological uniformity is staggering. Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador to mention a few can't influence the JP Morgans and Goldman Sachs, the true rulers of the world. Desperation is bad counsel and the temptation of seizing the energy resources still available to the opportunist vulture is greater than the rational appraisal of war versus peace. If all the existing oil –and gas– can be controlled by the plutocracy, their debt will be forgotten. Time is pressing, not because the Iranians are developing whatever needed but because the capitalist system is in danger of collapsing. Only a war of larger proportions to what we have recently seen will satisfy the death barons in their greed to recover their threaten safety. Obama's mistake is to not unearth the war hatchet now, that is why he is meeting so much resistance in Congress, what they want from him is WAR with capitals letters, a war budget that will mobilise and create resources for the biggest crime against humanity: WAR! Capitalism does not have any qualms with overspending under two conditions: waste and profits. And war does that very well. Capitalism fears workers employed in the production of useful things, government budgets for health and education, those things do not help their cause, on the contrary it undermines it. People's well-being threatens profits. The only reason this war has not started yet, in a way it has, is the enigma of Russia. She is on record to have said they will not tolerate an attack on Iran, their Southern flank. So far nothing indicates their position has changed. Clinton changed the US Nuclear Defense Police from deterrent to premptive, GWB reiterated it and so has Obama. We the People consent.
"But these Iranians when you speak of the Iranians, these are the Persians – they are dreadful, but very intelligent and patient. They make carpets. It takes them years but at the end, they make the carpet."
Walid Jumblatt
They probably see a war as a way out of the dperession like their collectivist hero, FDR. If they do this AGAIN(!!) without a formal Declaration of War under Art 1 Sec 8 of the US Constitution, then they should all be immediately removed from office and tried for treason against the United States. Treason? Yeah, there is nothing giving them the authority to jeopardize the safety of the American people by STARTING a war.
Yeah, I agree with you. Nothin' like a draft to take care of the unemployment problem…
Ok, so perhaps I'm an idiot and misunderstand this completely. We were worried about Iran having uranium that was too enriched, so we offered to enrich it for them. They refused and we panicked about them wanting an atomic bomb. To make a bomb they'd have to have uranium far more highly enriched than we're asking for. So if it they were close to having a bomb the offer would be valueless even for civilian efforts. If they're not close to having a bomb there is no reason why an attack is needed and enriching their uranium for them only gets them closer. So we're worried they might not let us help them build a nuke?
There shall be war and rumors of war. Seems all so apocalyptic since the new millennium began in 2001! Oh, wait, 9,11,2001. What a coincidence! A president who was told by God to go to war, torture, illegal surveillance, systemic corruption, economic collapse, suspension of civil rights, etc. And then the internet revealing it all! Yup, sure seems apocalyptic to me. Ya think we're being scammed by TPTB?
I do not even know how to respond to these kinds of articles. The U.S. and our conflicts overseas seem so messed up. I have no idea what is actually going on over there, nor does almost anyone. However, I am sure I know why it's going on, it usually boils down to money.