Tensions between the United States and Russia are once again on the rise, with President Barack Obama adding to claims Russia hacked the US elections, and has promised to “slap” Russia with retaliatory action for having done so.
Russia, for its part, expressed increasing annoyance at the continued allegations, with Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov saying the US needs to “either stop talking about it or finally provide some evidence.” He added that the continued claims were “indecent.”
Russia has denied any role in the hacking, and despite US officials saying it is “obvious,” they have offered no public evidence, and just insisted that “everyone knows” it’s the case. Last week, NBC News even reported that the CIA had determined that Russia not only hacked the election, but did so to get Trump elected because they didn’t like Hillary Clinton.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said he was “dumbstruck” by the NBC News report, going on to describe the report as “just silly” and that attempts to convince anyone of the claims were futile. Whether that’s true or not remains to be seen.
Certainly President-elect Donald Trump has continued to express doubt, but a large number of US officials are taking the allegations as absolute gospel, likely in no small part because it provides a useful pretext to continue with the ramp up to a new Cold War with Russia, which is providing myriad opportunities for increased military spending and international intervention.
That Russia is at this point daring the US to provide some evidence reflects as much on the lack of evidence existing as Russia’s shock that an allegation with nothing backing it up not only drove much of the election debate in the US, but seems to be driving US foreign policy as well, toward a confrontation with Russia.
This is to intimidate Trump to abandon his ideas of foreign policy change. The money to be made in having Russia as an enemy is the key driver in this “debate”. Also, one has to really take into consideration that many companies have already invested into the projected stridency of cold war direction — especially as Hillary Clinton was to be the winner. And the money would have been flowing into those businesses. Now, they are staring into losses. The problem is — this has infected both parties. Fox News is just as strident on new cold war with Russia, as is NBC and its affiliates. Republicans may regret it. They need to remember who elected them. Many people pinched their noses at having to vote for these dinosaurs — just to insure that Trump has Republican majorities. If these people forget who brought them to power, and forget their voters — they will be making enemies very soon. I do not think Trump voters will be forgiving if the party he brought back to life now fails to support him. They can investigate all they want, but NOT allow Democrats and their supporters in the bureaucracy to tarnish Trump by putting in question the election, as well as the very legitimacy of his claim to presidency. That Obama — a partisan figure — has the audacity to act as someone who will be here to oversee the investigation against Trump, and nobody is challenging him?
Republicans may regret this. It is time they show up. The fact that nobody is even considering going to visit Assange and ask to see the physical evidence that he has of the leak, tells that the ONLY story they are interested in is a story of tarnishing Trump.
President can and will change the direction of foreign policy. And this president-elect has been talking to his electorate throughout this campaign of the reasons for change of US direction in global affairs. This is something his electorate has taken into consideration when voting. And now, to have dinosaurs from both parties digging their heels in — is a spectacle rarely seen. Trump can do his own investigating, thank you. Enough already. And a message to Fox: you have not won this election, so do not pretend to be conservatives, while advancing Hillary’s foreign policy. The same MSM lies, deceptions and distortions.
Proof! We don’t need no stinking proof! USA! USA!
And who in USA will do the obligatory clapping? Clapping is now reserved for a guy who does not want any more stupid wars and wants to make America Great Again! Obama may need to rent a crowd to support his global empire dreams
Sarcasm my friend.
All wars are stupid. I hope Trump feels that way. I know Mattis and Flynn don’t.
America hasn’t been great in Trump’s lifetime so he must be referencing history books as to the “again” part.
Wants to MAGA by deregulating the banks, putting Goldman Sachs people in key positions, selling off our public land heritage, deregulating polluters, increasing surveillance, increasing the military budget, hamstringing scientists, cutting research funds?
Just take his most recent appointment. Larry Kudlow.
This is the same Kudlow that in 2007 said we shouldn’t worry about subprime mortgage debt, and that we would not go into a recession. Look it up if you disbelieve me
The same Kudlow who admitted to spending $10,000 a month on cocaine, and who doesn’t even have a PhD.
Just one example. MAGA is a slogan for rubes, sorry.
“and who doesn’t even have a PhD.”
Fewer than 2% of Americans over 25 do.
you don’t need proof to see that the US leadership under Trump is becoming a russian puppet with each passing day. I’m brazilian and even i can see this. Bout time you yanks got a taste of your own medicine btw.
It is obvious that Obama is compromised, otherwise he would not have gone along with this so publicly. We can only hope that the patriots in the military are able to resist any nefarious plans in store before the Trump inauguration.
The CIA had also determined that Saddam had WMDs and had an active WMD program and was working with Al Qaida. So much so that the Director George Tenet told GWBush it was a “Slam Dunk Case” These same folks have also told us (yet without a shred of evidence) that it was Assad’s military that conducted the chemical attack in Aug2013 while the UN investigator Carla del Ponte says otherwise that it was the rebels who used it. How this has played out since Trump won is quite obvious. There had been no issues or alarms about what had been going on prior to the election but since then, it has been an all out assault against Trump. Trump wants to establish friendship with Russia but the corrupt establishment cannot be friendly with Russia because that would be bad for their business model. The icing on the cake is the DNI Clapper when initially had been saying the opposite of what Obama has said only to now agree with Obama. Remember, this is the same guy who has lied twice under oath that the NSA wasn’t spying on Americans. They (DC establishment) hate Putin because Putin doesn’t bow to them and more importantly, he just helped Assad defeat their regime change operation by crushing their proxy jihadist army in Aleppo.
Don’t forget the “lone gunman” theory behind JFK, RFK, and MLK’s assassinations that have ALL been shown to be untrue.
“We don’t need no stinking evidence.” The Taliban wanted evidence before turning over Osama bin Laden for the 9-11 attacks. They of course had no evidence of that either and to the day he died, his FBI most-wanted web page NEVER listed 9-11. Let us hope that they don’t start yet another war based on these lies as they did in Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq(1), Iraq(2), etc. etc.
“That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence” – Christopher Hitchens
Yep, because it would never be these folks at DARPA. Sarc/off! Jul 28, 2016 DARPA Cyber Grand Challenge: What Is Capture the Flag?
“Capture the Flag” is a game played by both children and hackers. But whereas children look for flags hidden in their opponents’ forts, hackers look for software flaws hidden in previously unexplored code. Every year at the DEF CON conference, the world’s best hackers meet to test their hacking skills against each other.
https://youtu.be/qSgYu3w3DMM
July 29, 2012 NSA Director Keith Alexander came to hacker gathering DefCon for the first time to recruit from the show’s ranks.
LAS VEGAS (CNNMoney) — Wearing a t-shirt and jeans, America’s top spymaster — National Security Agency Director Gen. Keith Alexander, also the head of the U.S. Cyber Command — took the stage Friday at the nation’s largest hacker convention to deliver a recruiting pitch.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/27/technology/defcon-nsa/index.htm
April 05, 2013 National Day of Civic Hacking at the White House
On the first weekend in June, civic activists, technology experts, and entrepreneurs around the country will gather together for the National Day of Civic Hacking.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/04/05/national-day-civic-hacking-white-house
Loss in Syria / loss of Hilary and Obama’s policies will go nowhere usual accusations of Russians involvement of interfering US election is laughable.
Americans CIA interfering foreign countries regime change / spy drones and all other form of intervention it was and it is national pastime so even if Russia interfere ( can not be proven)
what’s the problem?
American empire bleeding obvious and poking Russian bear and we are almost glad that Donald Trump going to be President.
Trump is a russian puppet. Nothing more. Look up Alexander Dugins comments where he all but confirmed russian meddling to get Trump into power.
Forget it, Corvino. No one here wants to hear anything that goes against the (alternative) narrative. To be fair, though, it’s unclear how much *current* influence Dugin has in the kremlin. His writings have been very very influential in general in gov’t/military circles, though.
How anyone can deny the link between trump and putin is beyond me. We don’t need hacking evidence. Simply go to google and do some research. Look at his business ties. Look at who he is appointing. There’s quite a bit of hard facts about this.
Unfortunately, the alternative was hillary, who we (I assume) all know would have been potentially very dangerous.
So now we are going into a putin-backed Fascist state that will greatly accelerate environmental destruction, instead of warring neoliberal one under hillary. Scylla/Charbydis!
“How anyone can deny the link between trump and putin is beyond me. We don’t need hacking evidence. ”
When the accusation has to do with hacking, yes, you need hacking evidence.
Trump even before his rise to presidency was going to Moscow and investing in russian business and getting cozy with his boss the Kremlin. The russian hacking was only the icing on the cake which sealed the deal on him being a russian puppet.
What evidence do you have he was “getting cozy with his boss the Kremlim” you troll? A billionaire American has some business interests in Russia? Is that your “evidence” he is collaborating with the Russian government? What is so bad about the Russian goverment anyways? They effectively have fought off an AlQaeda takeover of Syria and pushed back against an American NeoCon takeover of Crimea and the Donbass region of Ukraine. It is a great thing that a country is standing up to American imperialism. Good for them.
how is being an imperialist standing up to imperialism you dolt?
wow since when did anti war become pro trump?
Payback for time for SUXTET and the many Iranian Scientists who were murdered in concert by those two. Russians are not fools as the US tries to make everyone think they are.They have been around for centuries