The 9/11 Advocates Group is accusing Sen. Lindsey Graham (R – SC) of stabbing them in the back today after he and Sen. John McCain (R – AZ) unveiled what they are called a “fix” to the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA), a bill which aimed to allow the 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia for backing al-Qaeda ahead of the attack..
While the Saudis lobbied heavily against the bill, and threatened to collapse the US economy over it, it passed easily earlier this year, though even back then Republican leadership was openly talking about gutting the bill after the November election. The election’s gone, and if the “fix” has its way, so are the lawsuits
That’s because the “fix” requires plaintiffs to prove the Saudis “knew” and were “directly” financing the terrorist organization itself. Since the 9/11 Report’s 28 pages show the funding was all done through a convoluted route, it would effectively end any chance of legal repercussions for the Saudis.
Which of course is the point, though Graham insists that what he’s really concerned about is that the existing bill which allows lawsuits over stuff the Saudis actually did, might also open the US up to lawsuits over the many, many things they’ve done.
That of course has been the administration’s beef with the bill all along, with officials arguing that it is a dangerous precedent to set that countries can be sued for overt crimes against civilians, since the US is intervening so heavily abroad.
No wonder these two old geezers are squawkin – implication of crimes could mean targeting of them similar as the u.s. does to foreign “terrorist”.
This lovely couple needs to be shipped to Saudi Arabia. Let them get
involved in politics over there since they are more concerned with SA
than with the US.
This “fix” is not to protect Saudi Arabia; it is intended to make it absolutely certain that Israel doesn’t get caught up in some dragnet capturing all of the guilty. Saud Arabia is a speck in America’s eye; Israel is a 6 x 6 beam.
Maybe it’s to protect both.
That fossil McCain is willing to sell out his country again. In McCain’s case, Trump was right to impugn the guy for being a (cooperative) POW. McCain is a Manchurian candidate who keeps getting reelected!
McCain got shot down on the way to bombing a light bulb factory in North Vietnam and was then captured. What a hero.
the whole world knows that 911 was an inside job,JASTA is nothing but a way to take the blame away from those who did the job knowing that there are enough fools in the US who could believe that some one else besides the real culprits who committed crime, ignorant is a bless they say.
Sunni Moslem Truther. Wants to blame someone other than Sunni al Qaeda/Saudi Wahabism for the 911 attack. Fail!
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I replied to pensword, but ran afoul of Mr. Moderator.
My reply can be found here: http://whimsicaldog.blogspot.mx/2016/12/911-saudis-israelis-and-zionist.html
Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.
The Graham-McCain Al-Qaeda Support and Defense Bill of 2016.
Throw them to the mob!
Why should there be any requirement for linking evidence, tangential should be close enough. Wasn’t Afghanistan invaded to capture Bin Laden who has yet to be linked by direct evidence to 9/11? Bin Laden is now dead and Afghanistan is still a military operation in which US forces take a leading role. Ditto Iraq which was invaded on spurious evidence that Saddam Hussein was making WMDs and even less evidence that his as a state sponsor if terror. Iraq is currently the grave of the former leader and another on-going US military operation.
Given the ‘evidence’ available about the Saudis, the Marines should be manning FOBs in Jeddah.
Read and review and share this with others. October 08, 2016 Video: Afghanistan: Fifteen Years of Invasion and Occupation
Fifteen years after NATO’s invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, the 9/11 and Al Qaeda lies that were used to justify the war have disappeared. Now the truth about oil and gas, mineral wealth, opium and naked imperial ambition are all that remain. The ambitions of Empire.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/video-afghanistan-fifteen-years-of-invasion-and-occupation/5549973
Especially since the US is now effectively an ally and backer of Al-Qaeda. We’ve fought three wars on the same side as Al-Qaeda (Libya, Yemen, Syria).
There are non-MSM reports that we’ve been directly arming Al-Qaeda (nod, nod, wink, wink, we only gave those weapons to reliable, friendly, vetted ‘moderate rebels’ and have no idea how they ended up with Al-Qaeda (nod, nod, wink, wink)
And very obviously and publicly Kerry has been going crazy for months trying to make some sort of deal to save and rescue Al-Qaeda in Allepo.
I guess its come full circle since the US initially helped create, arm and fund Al-Qaeda back during Charlie Wilson’s War.
Since military action should always be a last resort, the proper course of action should be to sit down with the Saudi leadership and “diplomatically” advise them of the necessity of ***TERMINATING*** Saudi-sponsored Wahabbi clerical activity — ***ALL..OF..IT***, from Morocco to Mindanao — and replacing it with a moderate form of Islam.
I use the term “diplomatically” here to mean that you say as nicely as possible that this is a non-negotiable issue, which is to say “You do it, or the US Marines will do it.”
Saudi Arabia is the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism — after the US, of course — a fact long kept from public view because of the huge piles of money involved: Saudi oil revenues, Saudi weapons purchases, and Saudi money-pile investments. A big, ugly money-driven treasonous collaboration with Radical Islamic Terrorism,… which is now coming to light.
I use the term “diplomatically” here to mean that you convey as “sweetly” as possible that this is a non-negotiable issue, which is to say “You do it, or the US Marines will do it, (and dispose of Saudi rule in the process).”
We already have a lot of bitter experience exercising said “diplomacy,” applying less soft speak than big stick. It didn’t work with Iraq or Afghanistan. What makes you think such a wonderful strategy will work with Saudi Arabia?
The Saudis receive a lot of materiel assistance from America, this is true; yet every time they do, there’s one country that makes sure such assistance is conditioned upon its own acquisition of equipment and munitions that give it a qualitative edge over Saudi Arabia and every other Arab polity allied with the United States. This country has engaged with impunity in systemic genocide against an indigenous population for nearly seven decades and continues to receive over eight million dollars a day of our tax money. Its dual-nationals lied us into war in Iraq, the toxic harvest of which we continue to reap to this day.
You want to talk “state sponsor of terrorism”? The Saudis are pikers compared to them.
Furthermore, this country’s agents were shepherding the 9/11 hijackers for months before the attacks. They set up cameras to document the event and were witnessed celebrating as the towers burned. Only after the intervention of Richard Armitage were they released, much to the chagrin of our FBI, who had yet to complete its investigation of them.
The “big, ugly money-driven treasonous collaboration” of which you speak appears to overlook the eight-thousand pound gorilla on steroids riding the elephant in the living room.
If you disposed the royal family you would get something like Osama bin laden and terroiist rule under a one time voting democracy .i
The Saudi royals are at the mercy of the US, whose military is the guarantor of their rule. The US “owns” them. At the drop of a hat the US could sanction them, freeze/seize their international assets, cancel their Treasury Bonds, destroy their US-made military, and march them all off to “the empty quarter” never to be seen again. And take charge of their oil. They know this of course — that they exist at the pleasure of the US. This reality remains unspoken because nothing is to be gained by speaking it. But there it is. They simply have no choice but to do as they are told.
And that’s exactly what they would do in order to preserve their sweet little super-rich, completely vulnerable monarchy.
“Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”
Thucydides
The traitor McCain and Graham both need to be at Gitmo and both water boarded together! September 06, 2013 Senator John McCain, Foreign Relations “Adviser” to Al Qaeda Death Squads in Syria
http://www.globalresearch.ca/senator-john-mccain-foreign-relations-adviser-to-al-qaeda-death-squads-in-syria/5348383
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-maQhr-35q0o/UFCG4iz8qgI/AAAAAAAADmw/HQZarqG0Iao/s640/McCainBenghaziCourtHouse.jpg
If I remember right the US government already paid the victim’s of the 9 11 terrorist attack very well if they promised not to sue . Usually you have to buy life insurance If you want to protect your family after your death . But 9 11 was for some unknown reason different . I surely don’t have any idea why the US government felt so responsible and generous for 9 11 victims . The government should and does take some responsibility for our soldiers when they are killed preforming duties ordered by our government . But here the government is very conservative and down right stingy and might gift the soldiers wife or family 40,000 dollars for their sacrifice . Where as a 9 11 victims family has already been paid several million dollars for their 9 11 victims sacrifice . I see no reason for our government to have decided on this action it was not the governments legal responsibility to pay anyone this money . I would love to question these guys with water boards so we can find out the truth for once .
ISIS was just the 2nd Saudi – Israel/Israeli Lobby major cooperation – the 1st was 911 with Israel running (cyber-, intelligence, etc) interference for the Saudis.
The last thing Graham and McCain want is for the JASTA suits to be sniffing around the Israelis… which explains why their full time job for Israel, drumming up ISIS, war against Syria, Iran or any of the other Clean Break Targets – is why they are all over JASTA like cheap suits, TODAY
Senators Graham and McCain were in on the plot to nuke Charleston Harbor with an B61-11 nuclear bomb.
http://www.barry.warmkessel.com/12related.html#j32
The 3 Sep. 2013 Nuclear False Flag On USA Stopped
We had family perish in the WTC on 9/11. The evidence reveals Israel masterminded and perpetrated 9/11 to provoke a revenge war between the US and Arab world, for profit.