Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton today insisted that everyone “knows” that Russian intelligence services were behind the hacks of DNC servers to release emails by way of WikiLeaks, saying that the Russians were making a deliberate attempt to influence the election and that the US would never tolerate that from “an adversary.”
Clinton’s comments are a step further in the narrative of the DNC hack, following a claim by President Obama last week that it was conceivable that the Russians were involved. Democratic officials have attempted to deflect discussion of the contents of the WikiLeaks releases by portraying the matter as a Russian plot, though former US officials say it is impossible to be certain who was behind it.
The Russians and Republican candidate Donald Trump, who Clinton singled out in the same comments, accusing of “encouraging” Putin and showing a troubling willingness to make statements in favor of Russian President Vladimir Putin, despite his official status as “adversary.”
Several Democrats have previously made similar statements, claiming that either Trump is driving the Russian hacks, or that the Russian hacks are part of a scheme to elect Trump as Russia’s candidate of choice. The evidence that Russia did the hacks in the first place is scant, and the evidence of Trump as being Russia’s Manchurian candidate is wholly nonexistent.
Still, after lower ranking Democratic Party officials were trumpeting that narrative all week last week, Clinton’s comments today suggest this is going to be a protracted part of the campaign, apparently interpreting the substantial media coverage of the accusations as proof the tactic has legs as a potential vote-getter.
At the same time, growing efforts to make allegations against Russia on the DNC hack an overt political issue are risking making the White House response, which at present appears to include NSA-launched revenge attacks on Russian networks, appear themselves to be “part of the campaign,” with all the risk that would entail.
Russia, for its part, denied involvement in the hacks long ago, and similarly denied any particular interest in the US elections, saying they’re trying to stay as far away from them as possible. To that extent that blaming Russia is politically viable, however, Russian denials may not matter.
They have to hyperventilate over Russia without any evidence of it, otherwise they’d have to address the contents of the emails. But it’s clearly a bald faced lie, since proving attribution is really hard- just ask NSA chief who is now working on it. Note that the Clinton campaign is NOT claiming the emails aren’t legit. But the idea the Russians are trying to subvert our elections by revealing a scandal, somehow magically makes the scandal OK is the real corruption here. It’s shameless.
Big mouth Clinton, already making enemies. She’s just plain evil.
On the plus side, the fact that Clinton must resort to this unmitigated BS shows her desperation. On the minus side, Americans are stupid enough to believe it.
I admit, I’m partly entertained in watching the Democratic party implode into a neocon wasteland.
How do you know Clinton’s lying? Her mouth is moving.
The American public is a Pavilion dog. Hillary commands, “Get ’em,” and the dog drools and starts snarling at the Russian “boogie man.” Hillary Hag knows her dogs well and plays them for a fool which they are. Incapable of critically reasoning, the public eats this crap up. I can’t believe the majority of the American people are so stupid but sadly enough, they are. Hillary needs to be placed in an institution where she can be medicated and watched very closely.
It isn’t the public. It is the media
Clinton is and of herself a terrifying spectre, an extremely venemous war harpie who has obviously gone off her medications and needs to surrender the pants-suits for diapers and a straight jacket, to be confined within a padded cell for eternity or at least the next 30 years, for if ever this toxic pathological instrument of power is propelled through the nefarious and underhanded manoeuvres of an extremely dubious electoral process to the WH it will be time to kiss your loved ones and humanity goodbye forever as her strutting team of malignant militant corportist neo-cons, Robert Kagan, Victoria Nuland, Samantha Powers accompanied by the Pentagon’s ultra-interventionist hegemon Michèle Angelique Flournoy,( founder and president of CNAS-‘Center for a New American Security’, destined to be named HRC’s Minister of War-Secretary of Defense) assume command and enter the inner circle of the ‘situation room’. With a sterling team like this, you can be assured that there will be declared immediately following her inauguration, a ‘No-Fly-Zone’ over Syria, with ultimata dictated towards President Putin demanding surrender of the Crimea as well as the abandon of Russian positions in Syria with the certitude that NATO weapons will be fired against Russian aviation and ships of the Russian Fleets in the Black Sea and the Mediterranean. The escalation will be rapid and the outcome disasterous considering Mrs. Clinton’s hardy declarations that the nuclear option remains always ‘on the table’.
And you are wrong on your final assertion for one very important reason. Clinton will not abandon the concept of MAD.
So if you think she would then offer some proof or even sound suggestions that she would. She’s not a psychopath and she knows fear. And thankfully nearly the entire US congress know fear as well.
But Trump is a psychopath and they don’t know fear. In private life, his many bankruptcies are proof of that. Then add what psychologists are saying throughout the world.
http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/02/psychologist-explains-trump-is-literally-a-narcissistic-psychopath/
Not to detract from your well written and sound message on Clinton one bit. Just to force you into accepting reality. So stick around pal, you’re two levels above the usuall rabble on this board already. Barring a couple of exceptions.
You are an idiot. Businesses fail all the time. It is not unusual for a someone who has started as many businesses as Trump to have several bankruptcies. There is not a reputable psycologist is the world who would diagnose a person with a mental disorder who they have never met. Especially a public figure who has to play to the public. You would be better off asking his former employees what he is like since they see him when he isn’t in front of a camera. From what I have read his employees like working for him and say they treat him very well. Clinton seems to have a lot more employees who speak ill of her than Trump’s.
Love your adjectives…
Instead of denouncing the DNC for corruption, this despicable
pathological liar would rather concoct a Russian conspiracy
theory to hide the dirty dealings of Debbie Wasserman Schultz
and other lapdogs working at her behest.
Do we now?
If Russia was really behind this hack (which I doubt, even though it kidda makes sense, because Clinton is such a warmonger),….then I commend them for doing a public service exposing the criminality of HRC, DWS and the DNC…………..and I’m a life long Democrat…..or at least till I can get over to motor vehicles to reregister as an independent.
June 22nd, 2016 – “Hillary ready to storm Russia tomorrow”: Putin warns public of US elections outcome
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that his country faces a greater threat of war from Hillary Clinton becoming US President, as opposed to Donald Trump. Earlier, during a meeting with Aerospace Defense Forces (ADF) commanders, Putin gave a grim prediction about the US presidential elections: “If it’s Hillary Clinton, it’s war”, Putin’s decision to launch early missile warning system satellites from the Plesetsk Spaceport by the end of December, ahead of a new US president taking office in January, 2017, is in direct response to the Obama regimes activation of missile defense shields on the Russian periphery, including in Romania and Poland.
http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/world/hillary-ready-to-storm-russia-tomorrow-putin-warns-public-of-us-elections-outcome/
Jul 28, 2016 – Disaster At The DNC: Anti-Hillary Clinton Protests!
If you thought the media was bad before, you won’t believe what they are hiding from you now! Stefan Molyneux is joined by Mike Cernovich to discuss the fallout of the the Democratic National Committee Wikileaks scandal at the DNC convention in Philadelphia.
https://youtu.be/I7SvB9qEpNQ
I gotta bridge, I gotta really GREAT bridge!
If it is one to nowhere, but the U.S. government is always buying!
You people just knew that Iraq was behind 911 too. lol.
If anyone has a “Black Soul”, it’s Clinton.
Right on, Jason. Them Russians them Russians–this hysteria shows HRC and the DEMS are mighty worried and losing their grip . . .
Because, Hillary Clinton, with her years of cyber-security experience and acknowledged expertise with stuff like email is exactly the person I want to listen to about this.
Interesting because she seems to feel such a need to try to distract the Dem voters away from ‘We Were Robbed by Clinton’ that she’s willing to tread on the shaky ground of Hillary and emails and felonys.
The sad thing is, Clinton is using tactics that work successfully with the American people. And it’s sad that there’s a chance that it could backfire on her and help the psychopath Trump.
Therein lies the real danger. A psychopath knows no fear and will not allow himself to be defeated in any way. Bernie Madoff was another good example of how they will hurt so many innocent people while fulfilling their own agenda of greed and self fulfillment.
Trump will not have the human ability to understand the threat of MAD that has saved the world from nuclear war since the end of WW2. It is not in the nature of a psychopath to know fear.
The only two nations that are capable of mutually assured destruction are Russia and the US. If Trump does work on promoting closer ties with Russia, then wouldn’t a Trump presidency make the world a safer place?
This particular madwoman would bring about the thermonuclear obliteration of her own country, be it Israel or America (not sure about the loyalties here).
Clinton is not a psychopath and hasn’t been diagnosed as such, even though she’s hawk. For that reason she won’t be able to ignore the concept of MAD.
Trump is a psychopath and therein lies the great danger. They know no fear and they will never accept defeat. In private life his many bandruptcies prove what he is.
Argue that if you can Americans, because once it’s in your head it’s not going to go away unless you can rationally make it go away.
You’ve only got one choice for president and it’s not a good choice. But you better get it right this time around!
“Clinton is not a psychopath”
She’s clearly a sociopath, which is related.
Arguably quite possible Thomas but not representing the same danger. And so now have you gone over to Raimondo’s side?
I suspect not but I’ll be waiting for more condemnation of Trump from you. I don’t think you will disappoint.
And so Thomas, all the lowlife on these boards can get away with saying anything they like about Clinton, but you don’t get the license to do that. Is she a sociopath? In what sense? In the sense of what she could possibly do? Or in the sense of what she proclaims she will do? Or in the sense that she might call Putin’s hand and ignore the concept of MAD, which has stopped all other US presidents short since WW2?
As I said Thomas, even Kennedy was stopped short when Kruschev ‘countered’ the his threat to Russia’s security by starting to move missiles to Cuba.
There’s something to be gained with your libertarian wishes in supporting me with doing the right thing Thomas. You’ll pick up on it eventually. The cause of decency is common to more than one political ideology. Think about what’s to gain and what’s to lose.
Don,
Vis a vis condemnation of Trump and your waiting — you seem to keep forgetting that I don’t work for you. However, my latest column at the Garrison Center is an anti-Trump piece (probably the next one or the one after that will be an anti-Hillary piece — they both deserve it).
The US Government cannot find any of the cyber-criminals infecting our computers with ransomware … but we are to take their word they know the DNC was a Russian hack?!?
“Several Democrats have previously made similar statements, claiming that
either Trump is driving the Russian hacks, or that the Russian hacks
are part of a scheme to elect Trump as Russia’s candidate of choice.”
Gee, America would never interfere in the elections of a foreign country…
The Cold War never ended it just got colder, until now. With Killary back in the White House, we will begin stage 3, total war. A Trump presidency could destroy the country but a Clinton presidency could destroy the world.
God help us. I’ve been listening to a lot of P.J. Harvey lately, Feeling kinda gloomy, and a line from “The Wheel” keeps playing in my head, over and over again- “….and watch them fade out, and watch them fade out!”. She’s singing about us folks.
….and watch us fade out….
Does this sound like 2003 or what? “We know” they have weapons of mass destruction. They are north, south , east and west of Tikrit-Donald Rumsfeld.
It probably wasn’t even Russia. It was probably some pencil neck geek using a proxy with a Russian IP address.
Framing a country for cyber attacks by using a fake IP address is a good way to troll superpowers into fighting.