Multiple funerals around eastern Ukraine and Odessa added a somber undertone to the ongoing protests and the military offensive against the protests, with a growing sense that the chances of a negotiated settlement are evaporating.
With scores killed Friday and over the weekend, Monday and Tuesday saw more of the same, with troops attacking the city of Slovyansk in the east, reports of dozens killed on each side, and the interim government scrambling to install anti-protester leaders in and around Odessa.
A week ago, both sides seemed to figure they had the other outfoxed, with the Ukrainian military figuring the protesters would eventually capitulate and the protesters figuring the Russian troops deployed just across the border would prevent Ukraine’s ramshackle military from trying anything too aggressive against them. Both were wrong.
Talks were looking less and less likely, and now seem virtually impossible, with the government ruling out letting the protesters attend the talks at all, and Russia ruling out participating without them.
Instead, in the absence of negotiations, protesters demanding reforms morphed into civil unrest and in some parts of the country a full-scale rebellion. Easterners see the government as too closely aligned with neo-Nazis, and the government has declared the ethnic Russian easterners “terrorists,” recruiting the neo-Nazis into an irregular force to attack them. A civil war seems not only possible, but increasingly difficult to avoid.
No a real war is the target:
Ukrainan CIA-guided fake-government plans obviously a faked false-flag "Russian border attack".
New Gleiwitz in Ukraine planned? Please translate & re-distribute – Ukrainan SUB Secret service brought 200 Russian uniforms and 70 Russian Army identity cards from Kiew to Donezk. They want to provide and film a "Russian border attack" for the media.
Source: http://news.dkp.de/2014/05/ukraine-lage-am-dienst…
Background: http://enk894.wix.com/us-wars
No a real war is the target:
Ukrainan CIA-guided fake-government plans obviously a faked false-flag "Russian border attack".
New Gleiwitz in Ukraine planned? Please translate & re-distribute – Ukrainan SUB Secret service brought 200 Russian uniforms and 70 Russian Army identity cards from Kiew to Donezk. They want to provide and film a "Russian border attack" for the media.
Source: http://news.dkp.de/2014/05/ukraine-lage-am-dienst…
Background: http://enk894.wix.com/us-wars
The US government may welcome a full-scale civil war, which would further polarize Ukraine, possibly leading to partition and a fervently anti-Russian western Ukraine that would join NATO and be strongly dependent and grateful to the US.
Blame the United States government, the "indispensable" nation. Without them, the coup leaders would never have been confident enough to be this aggressive.
Just like when the US ambassador to Yugoslavia, Warren Zimmerman, told Alija Izetbegovic, in 1992, that he could renege on the 3-way negotiated settlement he had signed, which plunged Bosnia-Herzegovina into civil war.
Indispensable to whom, Satan?
In talking about an "eastern offensive" it would seem that civil war has already begun. How many people need to be burned alive, shot, or beaten to death, and how long does it need to continue, before it becomes a "civil war?" Pro-Russian protesters are certainly organized, and that is about the only criteria to fit within the common definition of civil war: a civil war is a war between organized groups within the same state or republic. From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_war
In talking about an "eastern offensive" it would seem that civil war has already begun. How many people need to be burned alive, shot, or beaten to death, and how long does it need to continue, before it becomes a "civil war?" Pro-Russian protesters are certainly organized, and that is about the only requirement to fit within the common definition of civil war: a civil war is a war between organized groups within the same state or republic. From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_war
3 1/2 weeks from now, the interim government will be gone and the new government will be aligned with whoever has a majority in parliament. That the armed bands might hope to block the election is a possibility and that would be a declaration of civil war. But those bands cannot just live offf the countryside. They have to be supplied from somewhere outside Ukraine, at very least with arms and ammunition. We can all guess from where those supplies are coming from. Thus, only Putin can stop the election and he'd be a total fool to do that because it would wrongfoot him completely.
"3 1/2 weeks from now, the interim armed band will be gone and the new armed band will be aligned with whoever has a majority in the council that governs the armed band. That the other armed bands might hope to block the interim armed band's election is a possibility and that would be an acknowledgement of civil war."
There, fixed that for ya.
"…have to be supplied from somewhere outside Ukraine…all guess from where those supplies are coming from…"
Yeah, we can…the EU and the USG.
How many more civil wars does the US have to instigate and/or inflame before the American taxpayers/voters take notice?
Wonder if another Kosovo will be born in western Ukraine ultimately.
Youth in ukraine was brain washed during 20 years via schools.This was an anti russian direction imposed by nationalists "historians".They do not want to understand that russian people where first victims of communism.Historically,there was not much russians in the first communists gouvernements.Even Stalin was georgian like Sakashvili.The older generation understand it and are against this kind of ukrainization. Younger prefer to shout "slava ukraini" (vivat Ukraine) and make the nazi sign at the same time.
Headed towards Civil War? How can this be anything but a Civil War already? Scores dead on both sides, tanks, APCs and troops occupying towns and engaging in firefights with the pro-Russian, anti-coup government population. Really, if it's not a Civil War now, what line needs to be crossed to make it one?