Though many in both houses of Congress say they anticipate a lot of opposition to the Syrian War, Obama Administration officials, led by Secretary of State John Kerry, say they don’t anticipate a “no” vote under any circumstances.
But what happens if Congress says no? Kerry insisted that President Obama has a “right” to attack Syria no matter how Congress votes, and said the administration was willing to go forward with its war “no matter what Congress does.”
Which makes the decision to seek Congressional approval even more puzzling, since officials were suggesting a week ago they were past the “point of no return” and now still seem to be operating under the assumption that they can attack even if Congress explicitly tells them not to.
Congressional oversight on America’s wars is already well below Constitutional mandates in the modern era, with presidents regularly waging war in situations well short of Congressional declarations of war, and the War Powers Act of 1973 giving them an easy out on the “authorization of military force” that falls well below a formal declaration.
Still, Congress has always been there with at least some theoretical oversight, even if it’s after the fact. President Obama already slighted them by continuing the Libya War after Congress voted against authorizing it, but that was a war he’d already started and was only brought to a vote later, over his objections. The idea of asking Congress, having them turn it down then starting the war anyhow is leaps and bounds worse, and could set up a protracted battle for what limits a president has anymore on his unilateral use of the military.
Antiwar.com urges all readers to contact their Congressmen and urge them to vote against attacking Syria. Click here for contract information.
WHAT IN THE hell HAS THIS COUNTRY COME TO? What will it take to GET US BACK ON TRACK? a FULL FLEDGED CIVIL WAR IN AMERIKA? A NUKE STRIKE ON OUR CITIES? JUST WHAT?
I'm sure there's nothing wrong that LOTS OF COMMENTING IN ALL CAPS won't fix.
Sorry my friend..caps or not—WHAT WILL IT TAKE? ARE YOU PART OF THE SOLUTION?
Quick note to SecState Kerry – NO Obama can't.
Lurch Botox Kerry not only threw his Vietnam medals away to protest that senseless war, he ran in 2004 as some sort of pro-peace candidate…LOL. Another corporate-Zionist tool willing to wipe his ass with the Constitution, squander more people, money and what little shred of credibility the US has on waging another war on Israel's behalf.
Here's to hoping if it all comes down that Israel gets punched in the face, kicked in the balls and salted with DU and white phosphorus – Hezbollah, don't let us down.
Yeah, just make up the political system as you go along, but do it all in deadly earnest.
The Soviets had lots of show trials, but that didn't mean that the prisoners weren't going to the Gulag. Obama obviously thinks he can do a legislative version of those.
Sure. You want a trial? We can have a trial. You want elections? We can have elections. You want a debate? Let's have a debate. Just don't think the important decisions haven't already been made.
Anyone can attack any country if they want to disrespect or not give a damn about any laws, domestic or international. Doing so, even saying what Kerry have said, is a disrespect to 56% of the Americans which oppose any military or otherwise intervention in Syria, which means, that Kerry or in general the government have no respect for the laws of the land nor their own people, like Bush, considering that Obama is the "progressive" president, is anyone in Obama administration eager to prosecute Bush gang of Neo Fascism with bunch of war criminals and proven record of crimes aganist humanity and war crimes in Iraq.., NO, if they did then half of democrats senators will be at court answering questions to anti wars attorneys or the ICC, wouldn't they. Therefore, they are so sure about their illegal acts that they announce it without having any shame or regert what they are about to do or have done, knowing that next president won't dare to touch them, because he or she is going to be as guilty as Obama or Kerry or Madeline Albright or Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton or Nancy Polosi and etc.
Same as Iraq, it was those of background as Baghdad thieves who were the "friends" of America and claimed that Saddam Hussein posses nuclear weapon.., or what is called WMD., look at UN filmed document when general Powell present that little tub to the world describing it to be the "tub" which have the power to wipeout the world, now carefully look at John Negroponte seating beside then CIA chief, just behind Powell with (translators) headphone and as Powell explains the WMD tub, Negroponte reads from a file in front of him. Thus far nothing seams to be strange or wrong but two thing,
1- why would John Negroponte having a UN translator head phone, doesn't he understand (English) what general Powell is saying., and who is in other end and in what language "translating" what Powell is saying?
2-what is in that file that John Negroponte looking at, is it possible that: what John is looking at is a transcript of what general Powell needs to say to nail the request for invading Iraq., one obscured word here or there might jeopardize the goal of Bush, Saudis, UAE regime?
Syria government chemical attack is the same scenario which is wicked idea behind all that., with evidence presented thus far, is the same game played by the white house intelligence.
What is different is there is no Johan Negroponte in that House, his replaced by John Kerry working for the same (US) government hegemony as John Negroponte. This is nothing new for US government lying about something, they lied about Vietnam, they lied about Korean War, they lied about bombing Sudan and all other countries they bombed for no apparent reasons at all., they lied about Guantanamo and etc. They, England, French, Germans, USA government lied about Balkan war, they lied about Iraq, they lied about Libya and now they have no other choice but to lie again proving that they lied again.
America is sick of this death warmed over face obliviating over pictures of unfortunate war victims.He is there whenever I turn on the TV. Listen Mr. Kerry, we Americans do not want or need involvement in Syria and to force or con us into this mess will make things very uncomfortable here at home as well as over there.
Obama's favourite movie is Godfather. He really thinks he is Godfather. He likens himself to a Pharaoh. Is he a King or a president ?
Assuming congress votes to deny Obama's request to attack Syria, any congressman or congresswoman voting to deny the request should, at the same time, publically pledge their vote for Obama's and John Kerry's impeachment should Syria be attacked in defiance of the will of congress and the American people. In light of John Kerry's latest statement as to proceeding with the attack regardless of congressional approval, doing anything less renders the entire process into nothing more than further insults offered to the American people, along with a complete waste of time and effort.
"they don’t anticipate a “no” vote under any circumstances. Yeah. Remember Wellstone.
Insane !
John Kerry's spiritual twin in France, Elisabeth Guigou, a veteran of the ruling Socialist Party, declares that neither a vote nor debate is necessary……..
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/02/us-syri…
The only thing Obama has a RIGHT TO DO is to be IMPEACHED, IMMEDIATELY!
Why even have a Kongress at this point? Why pretend it is a valid governing body, with its 10% approval rating? Do we have the Kongress just to give special favors for Israel? Because I sure as hell never saw any piece of legislation move thru the Kongressional impacted bowel faster than that pushed by AIPAC.
I have a feeling that the Joint Chiefs of Staff told Obama that if he orders a military strike without Congressional approval they would tell him to go to hell. Having Congress on board at least gives them some defense against war crime charges.
The smoking gun effect
And Congress can impeach Obama and remove him from office.
My question is which country is going to liberate us from this regime?
Right, can you say impeachment?
It would be childish to ask for a vote then ignore it if it doesn't go as desired. I say don't vote until the President first agrees to abide by congress's decision.