The idea of cleansing Gaza of its Palestinian population is slowly becoming an official Israeli government position, Zman Israel reported on Wednesday.
A senior Israeli official said that Israel is already in discussions with Congo and other nations on absorbing Palestinian refugees. “Congo will be willing to take in migrants, and we’re in talks with others,” the official said.
Israeli officials are framing the plan as a “voluntary” resettlement, but the Israeli military is making Gaza uninhabitable. Besides the massive bombing campaign that has destroyed nearly 70% of the homes in Gaza, the siege has left many Palestinians facing starvation and disease.
The Zman report came a day after the US condemned rhetoric from two Israeli ministers, Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben Gvir, about the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza and the establishment of Jewish settlements in the conflict. The US State Department said the Israeli government has insisted the statements do not reflect government policy, but that claim does not align with reality.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he was working on finding countries to accept Palestinians. “Our problem is [finding] countries that are willing to absorb Gazans, and we are working on it,” he said.
On Tuesday, Israeli Intelligence Minister Gila Gamliel told Zman that “voluntary migration is the best and most realistic program for the day after the fighting ends.” Gamliel penned an op-ed for The Jerusalem Post published in November, where she proposed the “voluntary resettlement” of Palestinians from Gaza.
Similarly, two members of the Israeli Knesset, Danny Danon, a member of Netanyahu’s Likud party, and Ram Ben-Barak, a member of the opposition party Yesh Atid, called for Western countries to take in Palestinian refugees in pages of The Wall Street Journal, demonstrating the idea is popular across the political spectrum.
It was obvious from the start of the Israeli onslaught in Gaza that the Israeli government wanted to achieve ethnic cleansing in the enclave. In October, a leaked document drafted by Gamliel’s Intelligence Ministry proposed pushing all 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza into Egypt. But Cairo is standing firm on its opposition to accepting Palestinian refugees and enabling Israel’s plans, forcing the Israeli government to look elsewhere.
The Biden administration claims it’s opposed to the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza but continues to provide military aid for the Israeli campaign without conditions. There are no serious discussions within the administration about cutting Israel off or limiting military support.
What, do they think that they are keeping both sides content by criticism (mild though it is) of Israel’s Draconian policies on the one hand, but still continuing the funding of them on the other ? Can’t risk being called an “antisemite”, I guess. The last President I remember who threatened to “delay” Israel’s yearly dole (because of continued settlements in the WB) was GHWB, who was the recipient of that pejorative made by then head of state Shamir.
US financial elite is pro-Zionist and so is the corporate mass media. They are accusing anyone who doesn’t share their “values” of Antisemitism.
The Polscum are masters at exploiting the hypocritical complacency of feel-good petit bourgeois liberalism.
LOL. Despite the use of all those fancy words that beg me to look them up, you nailed it, brother!
“do they think that they are keeping both sides content by criticism (mild though it is) of Israel’s Draconian policies on the one hand, but still continuing the funding. Can’t risk being called an ‘antisemite’, I guess.”
I’ve argued this President’s extremist – and, arguably, clinically demented – green lighting of Israel is underpinned by a basic political calculation:
indifferent to the unimaginable suffering of the Palestinian people, the White House looked at domestic politics – and bet it would lose fewer votes by total support for Israel’s ongoing, ghastly war crimes than if it said ‘no.’ Since Oct 7, it’s only doubled down on that bet.
I think it bet wrong. We shall see.
“The idea of cleansing Gaza of its Palestinian population is slowly becoming an official Israeli government position . . .”
No. The idea of cleansing Gaza, and all of Palestine, of its Palestinian population has been a core Zionist and then Israeli position from the very earliest days of the movement, a century and a quarter ago. The difference now is simply that the foaming, frenzied madmen currently running Israel can’t even be bothered to pretend that ethnic cleansing isn’t their cherished goal.
But gee, our administration sees nothing.
Reuters: State Department spokesman Matthew Miller earlier on Wednesday said that the U.S. has not observed acts in Gaza that constitute genocide. His remarks were in response to proceedings launched by South Africa at the International Court of Justice over Israel’s military operations in Gaza.
Wait to Trump takes over. He already green lighted Israel taking East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights. His reality on the ground excuse. Next Trump will allow Israel to annex a large part of the West Bank.
And what did Biden do about Trump’s generosity? Not a damn thing. And can Trump really do worse than allowing a full-blown genocidal attack?
You are right, Zionism is all about cleansing the land of the local population and give it to Ashkenazi settlers.
…all the way back to Theodore Herzl
https://youtu.be/0bvmYjtdGWQ?si=v4OvXSlovHGjJV08
My sentiments exactly! Are you reading my mind?
Reuters: “State Department spokesman Matthew Miller earlier on Wednesday said that the U.S. has not observed acts in Gaza that constitute genocide. His remarks were in response to proceedings launched by South Africa at the International Court of Justice over Israel’s military operations in Gaza. “
“State Department spokesman…said that the U.S. has not observed acts in Gaza that constitute genocide. His remarks were in response to proceedings launched by South Africa”
Yup. Quote: “we are not seeing any acts that constitute genocide.”
“Any acts that constitute” – in the face of the horror, listen to that bland, prim legalistic language – the optics are so bad. Not that Israel’s ‘outraged’ breast-beating will come off better.
Reminds me of Sergeant Schultz: “I see nothing! I hear nothing! I know nothing!”
‘You only find what you look for.’
I’m sure your favorite news network, RT News, has not observed acts in Ukraine that constitute genocide by Russia.
Also Russia has not destroyed the Rada, Ukraine’s Parliament, and the transportation network. Why, but that he expects to have good relations with them, after the Nazis are purged and the Orthodox church can be restored to represent their values and not Bidens trans agendas!!!
It’s hard to be observant with your head up your ass.
Unfortunately, head up the ass (HUA) seems to be State Dept policy.
State Dept employees who remove their heads from their asses face disciplinary action from their Zionist overseers.
Zionism is much more vicious than German Nazism. At least, Germans were defending their country against Bolshevism. Zionism is a pure evil based upon lies. US, by supporting Zionists, once again exposed itself as an empire of the evil. Those Americans who are standing for justice, should be glad that Russia/China alliance is getting stronger. They can’t expect the liberation from anywhere else.
“At least, Germans were defending their country against Bolshevism by allying with the Bolsheviks to carve up Poland.”
Fixed, no charge.
First, in 1934, Germany allied with Poland, then with France and UK. USSR was the last to sign an agreement with Germany. Poles were the most enthusiastic about crusade against USSR but, unfortunately for them, Hitler decided that Poland is useless as an ally and incorporated it into Germany, leaving to USSR Orthodox lands which French-British commission in 1919 decided should belong to Russia (so called Curzon Line). If you think this border is unfair, you should insist Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine give those lands back to Poland.
I don’t consider any particular border “unfair.” I just recognize borders as the turf lines of dueling gangs, none of which I choose to affiliate with or support.
So?? why the Cold-War response to Mikhail?
What “Cold-War response?”
It’s a simple fact of historical record that Hitler and Stalin allied with each other when both of them expected to gain by it. That’s what regimes do, and those two were far more alike than different. They just had different marketing strategies.
As did their counterparts among the “west.” FDR and Churchill were both a lot like Mussolini.
And all of this was before the “Cold War.”
Yes, Stalin needed time and a buffer zone. But your response was a cold-war cliche.
Other than it not being a cliche and it having nothing to do with the cold war, you’re absolutely correct.
US government and those who share it’s values are very much fond of Poland and Ukraine because they can use those countries as pawns in the game against Russia. No other reason. It was time when they thought they could use Chechnya in the same way, so they got in habit to call Wahhabi terrorists “freedom fighters”.
No other reason.
Mikhail has spoken so it must be a fact.
A Kremlin fact.
Hi DJ:
That is a bit dogmatic.
I think Thomas’ response is real-world Great Power politics. It’s about a practical attitude of what a nation can or cannot do, rather than an idealistic attitude of what it should or should not do.
Political science drifted toward idealism after the Cold War, because the US was then the sole global superpower. And could do as it wished to the rest of the world.
Political science drifted to idealism because a propaganda cover was needed to paper over the actions of the imperial class’s looting of both the homeland and the rest of the world.
True.
But it’s important to remember that there are several competing imperial classes at any given time. For a very brief period, the US imperial class thought it had no significant imperial opponents (and pulled the “idealism” card versus various Enemies of the Week to keep its own ambitions prettier), but it’s getting over that delusion now.
What “Cold-War response?”
It’s a simple fact of historical record that Hitler and Stalin allied with each other when both of them expected to gain by it. That’s what regimes do, and those two were far more alike than different. They just had different marketing strategies.
As did their counterparts among the “west.” FDR and Churchill were both a lot like Mussolini.
And all of this was before the “Cold War.”
No, the Nazi program was much more about increasing ‘Lebensraum’ (living space) for Germans. That was focused on annexing the rich soil of what is now Ukraine and required ‘cleansing’ that area of its existing inhabitants. Which included a large number of Jews (and by 1938 there were not many Jews still living in Germany).
Incidentally, Hitler’s model for ethnic cleansing was the systematic extermination of Indians in the western territories by the expanding United States in the second half of the 19th century. He was impressed by the efficiency and effectiveness of that process.
And Israel’s model for ethnic cleansing is right in line with both of those precedents.
Of course, German Drang nach Osten was about capturing new lands, but that was okay for Europe. Only when Hitler, after the deal with Stalin, decided to move to Africa, France and UK felt threatened.
It doesn’t contradict the fact that European socialists became fascists because of Bolshevik threat. First Italian socialists moved to far-right, then all the rest. Spanish civil war was already between left socialists and fascists. German Nazi called themselves national-socialists and actually they were such. It was time when socialist ideas dominated in Europe. Bolsheviks succeeded in hijacking socialist idea and turned it into something quite different. I wouldn’t go into details because it may be interpreted as antisemitism.
“At least, Germans were defending their country against Bolshevism” OMG. How was killing of their own citizens because they were Jewish or mentally challenged considered defending their country?
Nazism is a criminal ideology, no doubt about that. However, all European nations, including Vatican, were sympathizing with Nazi Germany because everyone expected Nazi Germany to defeat Bolshevik Russia (actually, Stalin himself destroyed Bolshevism in Russia but that is an other story).
That’s why UK, France and other European countries were so disappointed when Hitler made an agreement with Stalin.
It is easy to understand why Nazism was better for Europe than Bolshevism. In case of Bolshevik victory, all European aristocracy, businessmen, clergy and even middle class would be destroyed as they were destroyed in Russia. Nazi Germany destroyed only those who in their opinion didn’t belonged to Europe. So, aristocracy, clergy and others survived Nazi occupation okay.
You have the makings of a bloody good novel…!
These folks struggle switching support to whoever is the side that’s against the US.
They would totally support Israel if the US was supporting Hamas / Palestinians.
The basis for opposition to Israel is support for democracy, equality and self determination.
On this website, anti-militarism and anti imperialism are also common reasons why people oppose Israel.
Nearly everyone here opposes US aid to Israel.
Except when it is Russia doing the imperialism. The same folks you claim oppose US, are the same that support Russian actions in Ukraine.
Go figure.
Russian imperialism is the little imperialism.
Maybe the IDF should go fight the Russians in Ukraine.
Earn that 10 billion.
A WAAAAY different situation and goal!!!
US or the those who use us to do their most dastardly of crimes…??? Biden has said he is a Zionist and this Palestinian genocise is a Zionist one and not an American one.We were warned!
Someone should tell Mass Murderer Netanyahu, that he does NOT own the Palestinians and they are going to stay on their land. Where is the ICC? When does the UN declare Israel as a Terrorist State? When does the UN tell Nations, that this IS a Genocide that needs to be stopped? When does someone, do something? Doing nothing as usual is why Hamas exist, why Hezbollah exist.
Once all the homes are destroyed, markets are blown up, hospitals are destroyed, schools are gone (and we are almost there already), and none are allowed to be rebuilt and very little food is allowed in, HOW are people going to stay on their land? They will move.
This is why this great crime against humanity must not be allowed to continue … the S Africa case is the only hope, really, as Russia and China have decided to stand apart.
All the destruction that you mention would stop if Hamas released the hostages and surrender.
Absolute nonsense … this ethnic cleansing has been in the works for decades … they built and nurtured Hamas for this very purpose …
And it will all come to nothing in the end. Israel will find its heart’s desire and find despair and destruction.
The guy is a lying snake (apologies to snakes)
Or truth teller & prescient observer…..
Or not.
Zionists and truth are strangers.
That is such a lie. We all know the ethnic cleansing was the plan all along, the violence towards Palestinians wlll never end until the Zionists are banished, Zionism is the big problem here.
Zionism and truth are strangers.
There’s no evidence to support your apologia for genocide.
How can you support such evil?
How can you lie in support of such evil?
Remember the countries abbreviated as BRICS, I’ve no evidence to make this claim other than the way Russia’s ceasefire resolution was played in the UNSC, but it’d expect there was some BRICS consultation. But then Norman Finkelstein on Katie Halper’s pod recently went through the ICJ judges and counted Russia and China judges as a likely “no” votes – Russia/Putin for his pending ICC case and China for the crimes they’re accused of re the Uyghurs. We shall soon see.
When & where have China decided to stand apart. I see no such stands???
The UN does not have the international legal authority to declare what is or is not Genocide. Only a court can do that. The ICC/ICJ have that authority and the process begins with a state filing with the court an “Application Instituting Proceedings.” For example:
“In accordance with Articles 36 (1) and 40 of the Statute of the Court and Article 38 of the Rules of Court, I have the honour to submit this Application instituting proceedings in the name of the Republic of South Africa (“South Africa”) against the State of Israel (“Israel”). Pursuant to Article 41 of the
Statute, the Application includes a request that the Court indicate provisional measures to protect the rights invoked herein from imminent and irreparable loss. ”
Yes, South Africa has filed an accusation of Genocide against Israel with the ICJ – court proceedings begin next week. Israel has engaged Alan Dershowitz to represent them.
I suspect Dersh will be severely outclassed and out of his depth … it is one thing to intimidate students and folks afraid of being called racist; I think the SA reps will be made of sterner stuff.
I think you’re right, SA’s legal lead is reportedly excellent, I’m not familiar with him, but one doesn’t have to stretch to believe this personal for SA.
Re: Dersh, did you see Briahna Joy Gray’s recent Hill/Rising interview/debate with him? She was the model of professional legal self-composure while he all but threw himself on the ground kicking and screaming in tantrum. It was a mite shocking, he’s not known for lacking control.
I wonder if even he knows in his heart that he’s defending evil here. At this point, all he/they have is name calling and tantrums.
I imagine he knows and is experiencing a great deal of cognitive dissonance.
Alan Dershowitz is a disgusting bag of shit, but a good liar when you need one.
O Great, Alan Dershowitz the enabler of Jefrey Epstein and his pedo prodtution empire. Nice to see they chose the most despicable and vile enabler of child sax for profit to glorify their child genocide to
“”erase the children”’ of Gaza What ever happened to all the victims of the Nazi genocide of the Jews who envoked save one life and the village is saved……?????
The child murderers hire the child rapest defender to plead their case…????? This sounds so absurd that it could only be demented delusions & dangerous minds!
Zionism has morphed into Nazism, if it was not alway the same ole wine with new names & labels…Extermination & appropriation…..!!! Just anothir smash & grab gang of murderers.
The cleansing of the Gaza Strip will allow for the resettlement of a new land without a people and its incorporation into Eretz Israel, aiding in the exploitation of the Gaza Marine discovered by BP some two decades or so ago. Follow the money.
In this case I think the oil and gas is truly lagniappe 🙂
Getting rid of the Palestinian people has been the plan from 1947 , they actually began to plan for it in 1917 with the British promise with the BALFOUR DECLARATION of a home land for the ZIONIST in Palestine , there was never any plan for a two state solution the Americans new and so did the Brits , all the talk ect was to give the Zionist time to build up it`s military supplied by the US , the Americans will welcome a war in the region they have unfinished business there , and i would not rule out battle field nukes either because the loss of Military personal would make Vietnam look like Sundy mornring walk about .
“Zionist time to build up it`s military supplied by the US ” Most military supplies used by Israel in the 1948 war came from Europe with the Czechoslovakia being the largest supplier or home made.
Nicely done distraction there. Do you have a rebuttal to the argument Zionists began their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in 1948?
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The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine is a book authored by New Historian Ilan Pappé and published in 2006 by Oneworld Publications. During the 1948 Palestine war, around 720,000 Palestinian Arabs out of the 900,000 who lived in the territories that became Israel fled or were expelled from their homes.
There is no country that will take the people from Gaza.
Hitler discovered more or less the same thing, and he came up with a solution.
Indeed we are quite the creative species – and savage.
Never again becomes, well OK just once more!
“Except Inhumans”
“Excluding Monsters”
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“Vaginas Birthing Monsters”
LOL…!
Genocide by Putin has been going on in Ukraine for a while but that’s not anti US so it’s not worth writing about it.
Go look at the casualties before you go shooting your mouth off, son.
And wipe that shit off your lips.
How helpful of Zeman Israel providing more, as if it was needed, evidence for South Africa’s Genocide case against Israel filed with the ICJ.
John Mearsheimer, who up to this point has opined Israel’s actions are not “at risk of Genocide,” has said South Africa’s filing is very persuasive.
In Nikki Haley mode – “Everyone” should read it. It’s 84 pages available at the ICJ, for time I recommend Owen Jones’ 33min vid providing a solid well-done outline of the document, 84 pages less the legalese.
https://bit.ly/3S6VIIA