Delays have caused the North Atlantic alliance to push back the expected arrival of F-16s in Ukraine until next summer. Currently, only six Ukrainian pilots are engaged in the training program. According to the Washington Post, the revised timeline reflects that Western countries see the F-16s as a part of Ukraine’s long-term defense but not necessary for the current conflict.
Initially, the White House rejected plans to send F-16s to Ukraine. In May, President Joe Biden relented and said the US would not stand in the way of its allies providing the warplanes to Ukraine. After Biden reversed course, Kiev hoped to receive F-16s sometime in Spetember.
Last month, White House officials said the US was “rushing” to get the warplanes to Ukraine, and it expected Kiev to have F-16s by the first quarter of 2024. On Friday, the Washington Post spoke with Ukrainian officials who said the timeline was deployed further until sometime next summer.
Once F-16s start arriving in Ukraine, the impact could be limited by the number of pilots the West is training. According to two unnamed Ukrainian sources, only six pilots are enrolled in the first round of training, with two reserved candidates. The first step the pilots will undergo is four months of English lessons in the UK.
The pilots will not begin combat training until January, a process expected to last at least six months. One Ukrainian official told the Post that the West is “dragging out” the process of providing F-16s to Kiev.
The Post said the delay reflects the divide between Kiev and its Western backers. Washington and some countries who have agreed to train Ukrainian pilots on F-16s view the plane as part of Ukraine’s long-term defensive needs. Brig. The Pentagon’s press secretary, Gen. Patrick Ryder, said, “F-16s are about our long-term commitment to Ukraine and are a capability that won’t be relevant to the current counteroffensive.”
However, Kiev and other European countries have consistently complained that Ukraine lacks air power and has been pushed by NATO into launching a counteroffensive without a crucial military tool. “It “pi**es me off” when some in the West complain about the slow start and progress of the push against Russian forces,” Ukraine’s commander-in-chief Valery Zaluzhny said last month. “They are needed because there is no other way. Because the enemy is using a different generation of aviation.”
The White House maintains it gave Kiev all the weapons it needed to launch the counter-offensive. However, the Post notes that Ukrainian ground forces attempting to retake territory have been attacked by low-flying Russian helicopters. Additionally, American officials admitted to the Wall Street Journal that Kiev lacked the warplanes and artillery needed to launch a successful counteroffensive. Still, Washington hoped Ukrainian courage would overcome the entrenched Russian defenses.
Sending F-16s to Ukraine will mark a significant escalation in Washington’s proxy war against Russia. The Kremlin says it will view the warplanes as a nuclear threat. “We have informed the nuclear powers, the United States, Britain and France, that Russia cannot ignore the ability of these aircraft to carry nuclear weapons. No amount of assurances will help here,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said.
Kyle Anzalone is the opinion editor of Antiwar.com, news editor of the Libertarian Institute, and co-host of Conflicts of Interest.
Additionally, American officials admitted to the Wall Street Journal that Kiev lacked the warplanes and artillery needed to launch a successful counteroffensive. Still, Washington hoped Ukrainian courage would overcome the entrenched Russian defenses.
Hope and courage. That’ll work.
There is also a belief that UA was gifted a huge amount of artillery, but their greenhorn army had no fire-discipline and blasted away their inventory like drunken Ukranian yokels..
Be fair. What are they were suppose to do? With all the ammo that the empire has given them, it is still only about 10% of what Russians are throwing at them. Ukrainians are just as good at warfare as Russians. It’s just not a fair fight.
I learned a lot more about Ukrainian bravery, resourcefulness, and ingenuity from pro Russian sources than anything the US put out.
US: Ukrainians were given everything, and wasted it by not following our guide lines.
Russia: Ukrainians are brave resourceful tough soldiers that were intentionally killed off by the west (“fight to the last Ukrainian”) and stabbed in the back by Zelenski.
That’s because Russians REALLY don’t want to kill Ukrainian soldiers. An average Russian soldier would gladly kill 100 Pentagon grunts to save a life of one Ukrainian soldier. The kind of hate occupation of Ukraine has created is impossible to convey in words. Today majority of Russian population want US to be erased from the map. Even if we survive this, this wound will not heal for generations.
If you give your enemy in war a fair fight, you’re doing war wrong. Fair fights are for the boxing ring.
True but Ukraine is not Russia’s enemy and Russia isn’t at war with Ukraine.
Ukraine is Russia and Russia is Ukraine.
Hope and courage will help you find faith in the silver lining of that paragraph.
Do those planes have a long life if they are put in to battle fully or will they have ones if they avoid battle?
If Ukraine promises it goes inside one of their museums, maybe Russia will spare them?
“transfer” so are they a gift? a loan? does it matter?
No. Gifts don’t require repayment and there’s no chance Ukraine will be able to repay loans. Same-same.
Among the various rumors connected to these big F-16 plans, todays Strana.news stated that the US hasn’t even established a training program for UA pilots.. If this is actually true, it would behoove the #1 poodle Britain to get those pilots trained.. Russia needs the target practice..
My question is where are the planes going to come from?? The only source seems to be F-16s at the end of their service life that are being retired as replacement F-35s arrive; but the F-35 program is so delayed that by the time the Netherlands, or Norway, get all their new aircraft the F-16s they are replacing will be completely worn out – and will require a massive overhaul, at billions of dollars, before they are flyworthy. Certainly the “early retirees” from both nations that would be available now were the LEAST flyworthy in their fleet
Also, never mentioned; not all F-16s are the same. Getting a total of 50 aircraft from 6 separate countries, each flying different models with different equipment, makes a standard training program impossible. This is just more feel-good nonsense.
” This is just more feel-good nonsense.”
It’s not about feeling good. It’s about maximizing the flow of taxpayer money to “defense” contractors.
100% correct.
The United Soviet States of America has become the bane of the world. Just look at the group of figure heads that the elites have installed, Biden, Harris, Blinken, Milley, etc. Sort of like Rome with Nero, Caligula, take your pick, although it would be hard to find in history, a crew as dumb and corrupt as the Biden/Harris combo.
The US declaring they gave Ukraine “all the weapons they needed” is a huge lie. We gave them a used car lot full of overpriced crap (including hundreds of MRAPS, Strykers, and Humvees that we don’t want, can’t sell to anyone, and don’t want to pay to scrap) that are completely useless for this type of offensive, and everyone else did the same thing. No two “brigades” in the Ukrainian army seem to have the same organization, equipment, or training; it’s a colossal hodgepodge. Add in no air cover, very little if any air defense, a huge lack of heavy armored engineering vehicles, multiple incompatible weapons systems each requiring their own supply chain (Ukraine’s army has at least 7 different types of tank gun each requiring its own separate ammunition – 100mm rifled, L7 105mm rifled, Low Pressure 105mm semi-rifled, 115mm smoothbore, 120mm rifled, 120mm smoothbore, and 125mm smoothbore; and 20mm, 23mm, 25mm, 30mm, 35mm and 40mm autocannons for their different IFVs and anti-aircraft vehicles) and its surprising they agreed to launch any attack at all. Top it off with very inadequate training, and NO full unit training exercises at either Battalion or Brigade level.
I don’t think, in the end, it would make much difference what we gave them, but this was embarrassing. Even worse is, considering the amounts of money involved, where did it all go? If this is really what $114 Billion Dollars buys, no wonder our defense budget is pushing $1 Trillion.
US experts shaking their heads and saying “we did all we could, we thought they’d do better” and “it’s their fault, they’re not following our doctrine”, is dishonest and insulting.
Given our woeful track record “training and equipping” the Afghans and Iraqis, I can actually believe that this IS “the best we can do”. But it certainly wasn’t anywhere near sufficient. This country, and our NATO minions, have a lot of Ukrainian blood on our hands.
Good comment!
The point is ( for them ) that those bloody hands are full of $$$$. Cha ching!
“According to the Washington Post, the revised timeline reflects that Western countries see the F-16s as a part of Ukraine’s long-term defense but not necessary for the current conflict.”
The cold-hearted cynicism is absolutely . . . unsurprising. As is the fact that they don’t even bother to make their lies slightly credible.
“One Ukrainian official told the Post that the West is ‘dragging out’ the process of providing F-16s to Kiev.”
They may not want to give Ukraine weapons that can so easily reach . . . Brussels.
LOL by next summer there won’t be a Ukraine to use those F-16’s. That’s why it was ‘pushed back’- as is it was ever going to happen to begin with.
Agreed. When Ukraine’s “counter-offensive” collapses, the Russians will likely drop the hammer on the Uke-Nazis and put an end to the war.
How exactly are they planning to transfer it? Sky over Ukraine is effectively a No Fly Zone. And Kremlin already said that they will target and destroy home base of any hostile aircraft. (Including any territory under permanent Anglo-American occupation) That basically means if Russians don’t want these jets in Ukraine, there wont be F16 jets in Ukraine.
I agree. I’m just hoping things don’t escalate.
Things have been escalating, and most likely will continue escalating. Ukraine needs to pull Julio from the front lines and send him to Moscow to ask Putin to surrender.
Probably easier if you Putin Lovers start asking Putin to pull his sh!t army out of Ukraine in the name of peace.
Hi DJ:
You are confusing PEACE LOVERS with Putin lovers.
He’s always in a state of confusion.
😂
Unlike our F16s, these F16s will be foldable like a paper airplane, small enough to fit in a suitcase.
LOL