As Israel continues to escalate its attacks across Syria, they are running into some resistance from Turkey. Turkey is reportedly frustrated with the growing Israeli strikes on Syria, and there was an incident over the weekend where two Turkish F-16 fighter jets were scrambled into Syrian airspace and “interfered” with Israeli warplanes actively attacking targets inside Syria.
Officials are saying there was no direct conflict between the planes, though it is also being called the first direct contact between the two sides inside Syria. The Turkish planes reportedly tried to use electronic counter measures to try to warn the Israeli warplanes off.
Details are still relatively scant on the matter, and the IDF denied that anything happened at all, maintaining that they have “full freedom of operation” to carry out attacks inside Syria as they see fit.
Both Turkey and Israel were seen as supporting the regime change in Syria in December, but they took opposite paths after it happened. Turkey has been closely supporting the new government, while Israel invaded the south and has launched hundreds of airstrikes against the rest of the country.
Though their respective spheres of influence inside Syria don’t direct overlap, they are seen as conflicting, as seen in early April when Israel attacked an air base inside Syria that Turkey was intending to take over. Israel openly said the attack was a “message” to Turkey.
Turkey reinforced the base, and there has been concern the two sides are on a collision course ever since. At the US behest, Turkey and Israel were reported to have held deconfliction talks at the time.
Turkey sees Israel’s constant attacks on Syria as threatening what they envision as a potential ally, while Israel sees Turkey’s general interest in influence over Syria as a threat to their regional dominance.
Israeli officials have presented most recent Turkish advancements as posing a threat to Israel itself. Most recently, reports of Turkey’s advanced drone program and planned exports were being discussed, with feat that nations Israel is actively attacking, including Syria, might be sold such weapon.
What is more serious is that Yemen has directly impacted Ben Gurion airport, the only civilian air access to the genocidal nano-colony.
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… and more to come…!
Intriguing but I'll believe that Erdogan is willing to confront his ally, the Zionazi colony, when he downs a jet, as he did with a Russian one years ago (to what Putin responded with appeasement).
I remember that. The attack was coordinated from US Incirlik base, and it resulted in some major changes to Turkish staffing at the base.
There was a video of shooters , shooting also tve lilit who ejected from the plane. Video identified the person who was arrested.
Years later Turkey managed to take controlnover most of border armed groups — an area where Kurds, ISIS or former US funded Free Syrian Army. Many if them were also corraled by HTS.
To avoid being confused as this chaos starts taking shape it will be hellpful to remember that HTS and Turkey are not allies, HTS was mostly British funded especially while cooped up in Idlib. HTS did not appreciate Turkey recruiting tribes and groups HTS tried to recruit . HTS relied on Kurds in Afrin to smuggle weapons to Idlib — weapons trafficked all aling Syria -Turkey border. Once Turkey Occupied Afrin — HTS was hammed in and relied in fake UN delivery to get British aid.
However, HTS would not have been able to waltz into Damascus without Turkey facilitating and Syrian army standing down. HTS has no more than 20000 people — 15,000 atvthe time of entering Damascus. Compare that to force Turkey assembled around Syrian border and further into Akeopo province . Turkey commanded, put into uniform and under arms over 100,000 soldiers later named Syrian National Army.
HTS leadeship however is under control of US/Britiish intelligence and is doing everything asked for. And remember standard procedure in such situations — every visitor brings sacks of cash. HTS needs to buy Damascus buraucracy and try to grt under its control Assad’s forces at least in Damascus.
The truth is — nobody as far as I was able to find knows where is the bulk of it and will they join
Turkish funded. SNA.
HTS is under US guidance forced to accept a deal with American controlled Kurds, the
SDF .
The standard manuever was executed. As Turkish led SNA was aloroaching strategic Euphrates dam and pushing SDF out —. SDF invited HTS to take it over – thus stopping SNA — Turkey will not fight HTS. As I saud it is a cheap nanuever — as Kyrds have no intention to give up the dam. US know and Kurds know — HTS cannot take forced there as it has not enough force to control Damascus. But HTS being a puppet — has slready primissed Kurds “autonomy”. That will not go well with Turkeyz. The same old trick – how to have a Kyrdish area of Syria join geographicaly Kyrds in Turkey.
Nothing has changed, Turkey now has its hand forced. It must move into some Assad bases in order to have SNA moved more into area SDF snd US seem to be place holding for Israel. Thus getting close to Euphrates in Deir Azzor province, This one base Turkey repaired is near old Roman city of Palmira (today Tudmir).
Once Turkey armed SNA mived in more centrally HTS will no linger have the luxury acting like airheads . Their puppy behaviour has been amazing. Almost as if agreeing to Balkanize Syria.
In case people are missing the key point here — let me spell. Turkey cannot afford to have a carcass of Syria in its border, as it will be only a matter of time that the chaos envelops its South Eastern border.
Unfortunatelly fot Turkey problem is not fickle and feeble HTS but Isrsel moving into Lebanon and Syria and US clutching onto Euphrstes valley with their mecenaries Kurds.
To that extent Israel gets it. Turkey is indeed interferring with its plans. There is no deconflicting here. Their objectives are polar oposite.
Maybe you know details I don’t know but when the Afrin genocide happened I don’t remember any “HTS”: it was Al Nusra/Al Qaeda, and that was the renaming of the Daesh (and lesser subordinated terrorist gangs) that Turkey was allowed to keep when the “coalition against ISIS” was forged in 2016, just after the coup against Erdogan and the counter-coup and mega-purge by Erdogan in Turkey. I checked in Wikipedia and HTS was in fact formed in 2017 and not a minute before… although I didn’t hear of them until late 2024, when suddenly (in my mind) Al Qaeda/Al Nusra had another name just in time for the great offensive. To me they will always be Al Qaeda (and deep inside Daesh).
Al Qaeda, not just in Syria but crucially in West Africa has been operating since that fated year of 2016 under Erdogan’s direction and actively sabotaging the French neo-colonial empire via Libya-Tripoli (France backed Libya-Benghazi and the two regional powers almost went to outright hot war in 2020, when a Turkish ship was a click away from sinking a French one). It was then when the Mali Islamo-fascist guerrilla spread to Burkina Faso and Niger and that was no coincidence at all, and it did mostly under the label “Al Qaeda”, which sucked the other groups like a black hole with rogue particles too close to the event horizon, there can only be one rooster in the triple border no-go zone.
It’s specifically “Al Qaeda in the Islamic Mahgreb [Muslim West]”: an army of fanatics, nearly all Black, led by a white man, something that always troubles me quite a bit. But anyhow the link between this Al Qaeda, that Al Qaeda (HTS now), and even ISIS… all go through Ankara and Qatar.
It’s less clear what role do the USA or Britain play really: when this genocide was agreed to in 2027 (Trump, Netanyahu and Bin Salman as signatories, Al Sissi in the shadows as well), there was this crisis when Bin Salman was about to invade Qatar, whom they deemed too close to Iran (also in relation to the endless Yemen war) and Turkey intervened as protector. That was not something in the books of the Anglosaxon spy-diplomats and may well have delayed the Gaza genocide for some 5 years. Unsure but seems likely, as Turkey was then not fully aligned with NATO and had not been invited to the murderous party.
However in 2023 everything changed again: we have almost forgotten but that was not only the year in which the Gaza Genocide began (November) but also the year of the Artsakh (Armenian) Genocide by Azerbaijan, Turkey and Israel. That happened right after Turkey got a much needed IMF (read: USA) mega-loan, Erdogan removing his veto to Sweden entering NATO and giving the Azov nazi war criminals to Ukraine in betrayal of the word given to Russia about them.
So Erdogan is back to the NATO/US fold now and only in such circumstances could the HTS offensive have taken place. It is Turkey which controls Amed (Diyarbakir) and not a pin moves across the Turkish border without Erdogan’s oversight… unless smuggled by the Kurds (but these hate the Islamo-fascists and know well that they’re Turkish goons and nothing else). Remember that Erdogan, whose reign is already two decades long, even purged Gladio (Ergenekon by its Turkish name) and removed it from US control, that was long ago but, together with the 2016 mega-purge (which angered Obama so much that he sided with the Kurds), has Erdogan in full control of Turkey… and its Islamist proxies.
It was only by the agreements of 2023 (IMF loan, Artsakh genocide) by which Ankara could be mobilized in tacit support of the Gaza genocide and then into that HTS mega-operation of 2024, which shifted the regional balance in favor of the West (but mostly in favor of Turkey). I guess that British, US and even Israeli agents were involved (Turkey wouldn’t be able to pull something like that without their newly regained allies, it was definitely a joint operation) but it is Turkey the one who has the greatest direct control and the one who allows or doesn’t the passing of troops (most HTS are foreigners, not Syrian at all) and weapons to Syria via Idlib.
Ultimately the Anglosaxons (USA, Britain) may be pulling the strings with money and other key resources, they could also frustrate any autonomous Turkish operation by leaking information or whatever, but it is Turkey which is the core actor and only by bringing Erdogan back to the NATO/Zionist fold could they coordinate something like what happened in Syria. Julani has been trying to appease Israel all he can (total bootlicking) but has also given a key military base to Turkey and even another military base to the US Syrian allies (Kurdish communist militias essentially, in exchange the Kurds got HTS and not SNA or direct Turkish control of the Euphrates dam). It’s complicated but imagining that Kid Starver (Starmer) controls the situation when Britain is in an even worse existential (socio-economic) crisis than the USA is (Brexit = MAGA = arrogant suicide). I really don’t see Britain as capable actor anymore, only as auxiliary force to the USA (or maybe right now as disgrlunted vassal, as they’re clearly in disarray with Trump’s anti-Europe and anti-Canada policies).
I'm not certain as to when Putin started supplying Turkey with "free or almost free" oil, but using "appeasement" here might be the understatement of the century.
Never heard of that. However Russia has invested a lot in South Stream, which goes through Turkey (after a leg under the Black Sea, skipping Georgia) to the Balcans and Central Europe, that’s a gas pipeline. Trukey gets its oil from mostly the US-backed Barzani Mafia (PDK), which controls Basur (Iraqi Kurdistan), then resells to Israel (Erdogan has been doing that for over a decade now).
Rules for thee but not for me. The usa says so, so there! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8ed1f3c414f70cceeb87451d83b82e953976dac48d5ecd5431d6608f7912cc0d.jpg
What's wrong with the new Syrian government again according to Israel..? They don't attack Israel. So Israel sees them as not strong enough to maintain order, so it's Israels duty to bomb whoever they consider disorderly..? Heads I win, tails you lose, sovereignty and national borders are irrelevant. Tell that to Zionist Democrats wringing their hands about how sacred Ukraine's borders are and how dangerous a precedent it would be to not totally respect them.
Israel poses a threat to itself!…. And the day is long….!….!
That settles it. Time to bomb turkey and reclaim Constantinople.
The Vatican is between pontiffs at the moment, so now's not the best time for another Crusade.