Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who was sworn in on Tuesday, has said the war in Ukraine needs to end and that the new Trump administration would work to bring it to a close, although it’s still unclear how that will happen.
On the campaign trail, President Trump vowed to bring the war to an end within “24 hours,” but fighting continues to rage along the frontlines, and Russia and Ukraine traded heavy drone attacks overnight Monday into Tuesday.
Ahead of his swearing-in ceremony, Rubio was asked in an interview about Trump’s promise and the situation in Ukraine. “The promise the President made, really if you look at it, is it’s going to be the priority – it’s going to be the official policy of the United States that the war in Ukraine needs to come to an end. It is a stalemate,” he said.
“We are going to engage in making it end in a way that is sustainable, meaning we don’t just want the conflict to end and then restart in two, three, or four years down the road. We want to bring stability,” Rubio added.
Rubio, who had been incredibly hawkish during his time in Congress, was a staunch supporter of the proxy war following the Russian invasion, but his rhetoric began to change in 2024, and in recent months, he has echoed President Trump’s calls to bring it to a close.
Rubio previously said both Ukraine and Russia must make concessions to end the war, but it’s unclear what kind of deal the US might offer Moscow. Russia clearly has the upper hand in the conflict, and time is on its side, meaning it’s unlikely to back down on its core demands, which include a commitment for Ukraine to stay out of NATO and continued control of the territory it has captured and annexed.
Yuri Ushakov, an aide to the Kremlin, said Tuesday that there had been “no specific proposals” sent by the Trump administration.
Was the war supposed to end today? I guess not. Ukraine days as an independent nation are numbered. Trump will sell out Ukraine to his friend Putin. It is just a matter of time.
Maybe Trump would do that. But what does the russian government, or Putin, want?
Not occupy all of Ukraine – that would be very unwise.
A main thing the russian gov't wants is Ukraine not being in NATO.
That should not be a problem.
“A main thing the russian gov’t wants is Ukraine not being in NATO.”
There was never any chance that Ukraine was ever going to be in NATO.
Then it should be an easy guarantee.
All those lives lost over refusing to guarantee neutrality for Ukraine.
And yet they occupied Ukraine and did drills or whatever. So in name, Ukraine wasn’t part of NATO, but NATO was part of Ukraine.
US and Nato troops begin Ukraine military exercise
Published
15 September 2014
And those military exercises from Ukrainian territory were planned for the summer of 2022. So, the bait was going to be continued to be laid.
It goes far further back. There were proxies inside proxies:
Kolomoysky Owns Burisma Holdings
The real person who was the benefactor to, and the boss of, Vice President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, at the Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings, was not the CEO of Burisma Holdings, Mykola Zlochevsky.
Instead, it was Ihor Kolomoysky, who was part of the newly installed Ukrainian government, which the Obama Administration itself had just installed in Ukraine, in what the head of the “private CIA” firm Stratfor correctly called “the most blatant coup in history.”
Shortly after the Obama Administration’s Ukrainian coup, on March 2, 2014, Kolomoysky, who supported Yanukovych’s overthrow, was appointed the governor of Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine. Hunter Biden, with no experience in the industry or region, would join Kolomoysky’s Burisma Holdings two months later, on May 12, 2014.
A 2012 study of Burisma Holdings done in Ukraine by the AntiCorruption Action Centre (ANTAC), an investigative nonprofit co-funded by American billionaire George Soros and the U.S. State Department, found the valid owner of Burisma Holdings was none other than Ukrainian billionaire-oligarch Ihor Kolomoysky.
https://archive.ph/HYr3k
https://www.kanekoa.news/p/how-one-ukrainian-billionaire-funded
Kolomoysky was a warlord who funded far right battalions and was a benefactor of Zelensky’s campaign.
….
Jonathan Brunson, who worked at the U.S. embassy in Kiev and was senior analyst on Ukraine for the Crisis Group, took a different view.
“I think Kolomoisky is super-dangerous,” he said. “He is probably one of the most dangerous oligarchs because he’s one of the ones who’s willing to get his hands dirty.”
Brunson pointed to Kolomoisky’s role in funding the ultra-far-right Azov battalion, a group of Ukrainian fighters alleged to have ties to American white supremacists, per RFE/RL; the State Department has called its political wing a “nationalist hate group,” and human rights workers say it may be a haven for neo-Nazis
“He was one of the first oligarchs who began to act like a warlord,” Brunson said.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/billionaire-ukrainian-oligarch-ihor-kolomoisky-under-investigation-by-fbi
Kolomoisky, an oligarch who is also the governor of Ukraine’s Dnipropetrovsk region, is a significant backer of the pro-Kiev private militias fighting in the country’s east. He funds the Dnipro Battalion, a private army that, according to the Wall Street Journal, has 2,000 battle-ready fighters and another 20,000 in reserve. Newsweek reported that Kolomoisky has funded other militia groups, as well.
The conflict has empowered pro-Ukraine militias like Kolomoisky’s because the Ukrainian military was too weak to fight the separatist insurgency on its own. When Russia annexed Crimea in early 2014, Ukraine had only about 6,000 combat-ready troops. The paramilitary “volunteers” bolstered the fighting forces, funded in part by private donations from wealthy oligarchs. Bands of politically motivated thugs, dating back to before the conflict, grew into more substantial militarized battalions. There are now an estimated 30 “volunteer” militias fighting the separatists in eastern Ukraine…vox
educative!
If you haven’t read this, you should. I’m not saying the guy is a bastion of honesty, but it rings more true than the “official” narrative. Once his usefulness was extinguished, he was smeared and sanctioned, as empire does. The same happened with Kolomoysky, after his money laundering operation in the US. Ukraine, okay, not US. BTW, Kolomoysky was featured in Israeli news sites as a great champion of the country before all this. He is now sanctioned. Romney stopped Telizhenko from testifying in the US, because of course he did. Romney (and Blinken) both wanted TikTok banned because of the Gaza slaughter being published in real time, as an aside.
Anyway:
Former Ukrainian diplomat and political insider Andrii Telizhenko — now under US sanctions on what he says are false grounds — speaks out.
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/07/13/bidens-corruption-led-to-ukraines-destruction-fmr-kiev-diplomat/
Adding, it’s no great mystery why Genocide Joe pardoned his entire family back to 2014. But the state media is hyperventilating over the J6 pardons and is completely ignoring this.
Maybe in 50 years it will see the light of day?
“no great mystery why Genocide Joe pardoned his entire family back to 2014.”
of course yr important point in posting and takeaway – preoccupied w/some other writing and non-news life duties in krakow, but will give yr posts and links the read they deserve and respond in due time.
It’s not a homework assignment, my friend. 😉
CIA-trained Ukrainian paramilitaries may take central role if Russia invades
https://archive.fo/teybI
Sorry for the tangent.
2022?…confused – know Ukraine did join Trident exercises in 2021…
"Ukraine holds military drills with U.S. forces, NATO allies," Reuters, 9/20/21
Russia invaded in February. So, obviously, they weren't held. My point was the belligerence wasn't going to stop.
"in name, Ukraine wasn’t part of NATO, but NATO was part of Ukraine."
1/ Yes – Post-2014, the US filled up Ukraine with US troops, weapons, trainings – and spooks.
Making the US-NATO a major, sabre-brandishing, rapidly growing presence on its border;
2/ literally on its border – Ukraine's eastern border, which the CIA edged with spy stations ("How CIA and Ukrainian intelligence secretly forged a deep partnership" ABC, 1/17/25)…
3/ …i.e., the US-CIA set up camp in Uk's most politically-linguistically Russian-facing territory (cept Crimea) – border lands where – w/Ukr suppressing Russian-speaker language rights – much pop. was demanding autonomy.
4/ 'Perceived threat' comparison? Only think of the US 'security menace' hysteria as F-22's went on a "skeet shoot spree," blasting a Chinese balloon and sundry ufo's outa' the sky. (Not Everything is a Spy Balloon or UFO, Time, 2/14/23)
[continued from previous post]:
5/ And then on the 'NATO member' front?
2014: constitution amendment declares intent to join NATO;
2020: NATO upgrades Ukraine's NATO applicant status to Enhanced Opportunities Partner.
2021: NATO includes Ukraine in annual multi-member Trident military exercises.
Likely not the EU either.
I'm willing to agree, there are strong arguments for that position.
Yet there is more.
In march 2022 Zelensky had this interview on CNN, in which he talked about NATO:
11:09 "But the leaders of world countries, all leaders, most leaders of NATO and the European Union were well aware of my position, I told them that we are running out of time. You have to admit Ukraine into NATO right now, we do not have much time.
(…)
12:14 But everyone in the West told me that we do not have any chance of NATO and EU membership. I ask them not to drive the ukrainian people into a corner because our people are brave. And the West should also be brave, and telling directly to the ukrainian people that well you're not going to be a NATO EU member. They did not have a consolidated position and I requested it personally. I requested them personally to say directly that we are going to accept you into NATO in a year or two or five, just say it directly and clearly or just say no.
And the response was very clear, you are not going to be a NATO member but publicly the doors will remain open."
I've come across that idea in some other source too.
Q: Thomas, have you ever read or heard that idea?
If that indeed is the state of affairs, some political tactics are going on here.
Apparently Russia was supposed to think that Ukraine may become a NATO member.
But I don't know what would be gained by that by who.
Any idea what the purpose of such tactics could be? Provoking Russia?
p. s. This topic has already 'sunk´. Few if any readers will read this comment, let alone react to it. Might it be possible to 'keep up' discussions that are still going on? That happens more often. I understand old news must not be 'kept up'. So it would require some adaption …
Yes, I’ve heard some of that.
The thing preceding all of it, though, is that it requires unanimous consent of all NATO member states to admit a new member state, and some existing member states are historically close enough with Russia that a veto would be inevitable — even if Turkey couldn’t just be bribed with a good trade deal to handle that.
The “threat” of Ukraine in NATO has always been used by the west to provoke the Russians, and by the Russians as an excuse for things they’d have been doing anyway.
The "main thing [Russia] wants is Ukraine not being in NATO."
a/ As Russia declared for decades. ("Russia Has Been Warning About Ukraine for Decades. The West Should Have Listened," Time, 1/25/22)
b/ As Cold Warrior US officials warned for decades.
"In 2008…then-ambassador to Russia, warned that 'Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for [Russia]'" (antiwar, snider, 3/1/24)
c/ As pro-NATO expansion US officials knew, and were ready to go to war over:
"US Always Knew NATO Expansion Led to War" (AW 1/9/25); and "NATO Chief Admits NATO Expansion Key to Russian Invasion," Sachs, Commondreams, 9/23)
d/ As Russia declared was the "main thing" when it invaded. ("Text: Putin's declaration of war on Ukraine," Spectator, 2/24/22)
d/ As Ukraine negotiators admitted was Russia's core, defining demand in 2022. ("Unanimous: Ukrainian Neutrality Could Have Brought Peace, AW, 12/7/23)
The main thing Russia "wants", is an all encompassing security regime which includes both Russia and Europe.
This has been the position of Putin every single year of his presidency.
The existence of such a regime renders NATO moot.
Well, Trump did say he would end the war in 24 hours after taking office.
Trump was more interested in letting convicted felons who attack policemen out of prison than Ukraine war.
Propagandist, you again exposed yourself as a leftist babbler and liar.
How embarrassing for you.
Is your sentence supposed to be coherent?
Trump talked more about ending the war during his campaign than Crook Biden, your hero. ever did. I do not recall Biden ever talking about ending the war. Ok we get it blah blah blah Trump has no interest blah blah blah. Try something else, give us another good laugh.
Blah blah blalh so it's all Trump's fault blah blah blah.
Trump cannot negotiate US foreign policy until in office.
Campaign rhetoric has its place.
He really did say that yeah. Many times. Many, many, many times. There has probably never been a presidential candidate ever who said something so stupid so many times. In the history of ever. And so yeah, that was hard to take seriously. With the addition of another 99 days to the 1 day it is hardly less difficult to take seriously. Assuming they are not so deviously clever as to be lying deliberately about all the wrong assumptions based on faulty intelligence of a corrupted and broken system informing the Trump administration, they are either up for an incredibly steep learning curve or an equally steep descending into failure that makes even Biden's monstrously disastrous Ukraine 'strategy' look brilliant in comparison.
Ukraine has never been an independent nation in the modern era. It was a Soviet republic. Then it was a Russian imperial satrapy. Now it’s a US/EU/NATO imperial satrapy. And the war is over whether it will remain that last one or go back to being the previous one.
Or when Blackrock calls Zelensky to complain of all the public land he sold to them is no longer available.
😉
Propagandist, no one here is surprised that after 1 day you blame Trump for the war. The was is 100% Crook Biden's fault. You missed again.
What nonsense, the USA left sold out Ukraine, staged a coup, corrupted the nation, built biolabs, refused to negotiate, violated multiple neutrality agreements, allowed Ukraine to stop elections, kill its people, outlaw opposition, and so on.
Your knowledge of the situation is simplistic and establishment. Russia made voluntarily Ukraine an independent nation, but there were conditions, which it seriously violated.
my god you're delusional
"It is a stalemate,” he said."
This is the current neocon big lie. Russia is winning and advancing every day for a year. The Ukrainian army is near collapse, even its Generals say so.
"Rubio previously said both Ukraine and Russia must make concessions to end the war,"
And he shows his hand. Peace is not possible because the Russians refuse to make big concessions. So we'll just run away like in Afghanistan. It worked there!
Exactly. When I read, "It is a stalemate.." I laughed.
Kursk will be reclaimed, when strategically viable. The eastern front is rapidly losing villages on a daily basis and the wide expanses of all the undefended territory between the villages.
Momentum is being gained and gains will shift to exponential as the Ukrainian are being defeated militarily, strategically and logistically.
Putin has time and resources on his side. Zelensky does not.
Putin doesn't care about Zelensky. He is defending Russia against U.S.
He cares enough not to have him killed.
Zelensky is very much useful for Kremlin. From viewpoint of strategic interests of Russia, such person as Zelensky at the top of Kiev bureaucracy is a great luck.
American imperialism takes many forms. Trump will likely reduce America's global footprint, particularly in terms of endless wars. A key part of this agenda is achieving "stability" to further economic objectives with other world leaders, such as the Saudis, who require stability to advance their own economic goals. However, as the West—once the bastion of liberalism and individual freedom—has morphed into an oligarchy controlled by the rich and powerful, the repression once aimed outward will increasingly be directed inward, eroding individual privacy and rights in America (e.g., Pegasus spyware and impending anti-democratic purges). Mark my words: Americans will be the biggest losers if we don't demand justice from our leaders, regardless of their "liberal" or "conservative" labels. If Trump survives his final term, what comes next? And if you think Marco Rubio has had a change of heart in his politics, think again. His net worth fluctuates between $200,000 and $400,000, but unless he runs for president and wins, expect him to become a multimillionaire in just a few short years. Meanwhile, some of us Americans remain overly satisfied with our democracy and capitalism.
Trump will likely reduce America's global footprint, particularly in terms of endless wars.
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
I mean, I hope the hell he does! That would be at least one good thing that he does! If the choice is Trump curtailing rights here in the USA and expanding or maintaining the US military global footprint, and the endlesss wars that go with it, Or, Trump curtailing rights here in the USA, but also reducing the US global military footprint and ending at least some of those wars, I would have to take the latter, as much as I don't want to see rights curtailed in the USA.
I grudgingly agree with you. But only under the condition that ending the endless wars will be done with real peace instead of an "or else" peace. Like the "peace through strength" crap we keep hearing.
Understood, that's why I say its an overall net gain.
Oh, I agree. If we can get out of forever wars, its a net improvement. However, it's not enough to stop the downward spiral we are heading for as a nation when the the people's' interests are being ignored.
Wolin:
Inverted Totalitarianism
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/sheldon-wolin-and-inverted-totalitarianism/
Except it has always been an oligarchy. The mask is off completely, but we saw it through Biden too.
As I have repeatedly said, we are all Palestinians. It only takes being in the way of an empire agenda.
We don’t actually have democracy or a representative republic. We have theater.
"It is a stalemate, he said"
A stalemate is in his head. The man is hopeless.
Now that they got "regime change" in Syria, which Russia was stubbornly blocking, it makes sense they can now de-escalate the Russo-Ukraine conflict.
Russia is taking new towns and villages every day. They have exhausted the enemy army, where conscripts are deserting every day. But the establishment and the media will keep calling it a "stalemate," like Rubio here.
That is a big reason why Russia needs to take Pokrovsk, and then large portions of the map to the west of it. Behind Donbass' densely populated areas, where you can move fast over empty fields. Because the ignoramuses only understand big changes on the map.
russia has been thus far unable to quickly move over empty fields
what will change
The Ukrainians are losing the war on all fronts. Their military, per their generals, is on the verge of collapse desertion is a huge problem and EU support is rapidly fading. The end is near.
What's your point, "Christian?"
They’ve been on the verge of collapse for 1025 days LOL
“leader” Poodles of Russia applauds you
And Ukraine is going to win? Reclaim territory? A 2025 'counteroffensive' because they mean business now?
You should be worried when gov't sponsored MSM reports that 'victory in Ukraine was never Biden's goal' because your master is leaving you.
The facts speak for themselves, and when the dwindling 'region of Ukrajina' finally capitulates, it will because Zelensky was told to let it fall as directed by the USUK Empire. He gets richer and a lot of people died making him so.
A failed and miserable experiment that the Ukes got completely suckered into.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f078d0d517b0dd3292da0bc81ddca45612bf246f6324ed712ee5676d056f4df2.jpg
Rubio changed his tune about the war in Ukraine after being appointed Secretary of State in the Trump Administration. He'd still be for the war if Trump wanted it to go on forever. He'd be for admitting Ukraine to NATO if that's what Trump wanted.
In other words he is a lap dog.
In other words the incapable and artificial Rubio is following his capable boss.
So, why wouldn't Trump pick someone capable and real?
Yes, he is Trump's lap dog and Trump is his lap flea.
So do you prefer obedient dogs or untamed ones in your house?
Not as bad as Bush's poodle, Tony Blair.
Rubio is all about becoming president. It's good he follows Trump, since Rubio has no ability himself.
Rubio could be another
Rex W. Tillerson was sworn in as the 69th U.S. Secretary of State on February 1, 2017, and served until March 31, 2018.
Russia has both the Time and the Clock…!
The American Czars are obstinate fools who persist in believing they have something to offer the Russians short of Russia's three basic requirements: the recognition of the new status of the four oblasts plus Crimea; the requirement that Ukraine never be either a fantasy nor an official member of NATO; negotiation leading to an official formation of a security regime which guarantees inclusion of all European states including Russia.
Because these three are ironclad requirements, and given the history of the Europeans and Americans when it comes to living up to agreements, there will be no peace agreement, as American governments have demonstrated conclusively that they are incapable of living up to agreements they have signed..
And……………………..return to the INF treaty, Open Skies treaty, lifting of sanctions, back off arming NATO countries with nukes.
In the early part of the past century, Buckminster Fuller, following a self-imposed year of silence, arrived at two conclusions: the first referenced a concept of psychological import called the Phantom Captain. The second referenced the economic and political life of humans in terms of the Zero-Sum game, a game Fuller found to be at the root of misery and ruin for the human race.
The Zero sum Game: What you have I do not have – What I have you do not have …. a concept which has poverty built right in. Capitalism is one such manifestation of this game and one of its most important products is poverty.
Capitalism has greatly benefited the world with huge increases in quality of living and freedom.
The concept of ownership has existed long before capitalism.
I disagree. Technological and scientific advances and personal initiative and intelligence have greatly benefited the world.
The Chinese communist government, as an example, has efficiently done much to eradicate poverty on a truly vast scale.
IMO, free enterprise and scientific advances have been the key components of the rise in overall well being of the populations of both the US and China and more recently many other developing nations. Ownership is, IMO, of secondary importance, leading in fact in our case, to a segregation of the super rich and the poor.
I agree, but a cease fire can happen. Russia is in the right, and also they are far in the lead.
The neocons, RINOs, MIC, intel agencies, … are waiting to pounce on Trump if he makes any concessions to Russia. That's OK, Trump's staff will support him this time, and he has no more elections. The public is OK with concessions.
I can only hope that you are correct. The one and only thing that Trump has to offer me is if he proves that he really is a dove on the Ukraine, and that he will actually do the hard work that it is gonna take to buck the neo cons, the RINOS, the War Democrats, the MIC, the Three Letter Agencies, the neo libs, the MSM, the think tanks, the entrenched officials in the State and Defense Departments, and the military itself, and make peace with Russia.
I agree that the public in general, and Trump's supporters in particular, are "OK" with concessions. I am not so sure about his staff, as Rubio and others are neo cons and militarists. And, frankly, I don't trust Trump himself. He makes some pro Putin and pro Russia noises, but he was, in fact, something of a hawk when it came to the Ukraine, when he was President the first time. Actions speak louder than words. And, then too, being concilliatory, being a "dove," is not something that seems to come Trump naturally, as a matter of temperment. Trump first said that he would end the war in 24 hours. That would seem to indicate major concessions, b/c why would Putin otherwise agree? It also would seem to include more or less telling Zelensky to take it or leave it, when it comes to a deal that makes concessions to Russia. With the threat being to cut him and his regime off entirely, if they try to undermine the agreement. Is that really going to happen?
Is Trump going to do in the Ukraine what the otherwise almost universally and grotesquely hawkish Biden did, at least in part, in Afghanistan? IE pull the plug on a major US war, without even a fig leaf of victory? LBJ, Nixon and Ford all feared doing it in Vietnam, which prolonged the war. Peace Prize winner Obama was extremely skitish about fulflilling his campaign promise to end the US war in Iraq, and sent the US military scrurrying back there before his Admistration was over. And re escalated in Afghanistan. And did little to nothing in terms of ending the GWOT generally. And intervened in Libya and Syria. And supported the fateful coup in Kiev, and, to some degree, the resulting hawkish Kiev regime. Trump ended no wars on his watch, and escalated in Yemen and in the Ukraine. And reneged against Iran. And was generally bullying, belligerent and bellicose in his relations with other countries, including even Allied countries. The sorry, bipartisan history of US presidents (and Congress, and the government in general, as well as the over arching Establishment), is overwhelmingly hawkish. Will Trump buck that history, even if only in the Ukraine? We'll see, I guess.
1) Trump is one-dimensional, money. Obvious these days in the depth of his love for billionaires.
2) Wall St. is getting increasingly worried re the debt/deficit/inflation; thence the DOGE headed by the big daddy billionaire himself.
3) And the neocon dream of world empire has faded considerably.
4) Still, at the same time, individually their profits are higher then ever.
5) Cashing out NeoConNazism is the functional equivalent of Reagan's abandoning Cold War Ideology. It could be done within a big picture conceptualization as Gorbachev/Putin suggested.
6) But, it takes, moreover, the right chemistry. Reagan, like Trump, was shallow & stupid, … and sated on ideological blood in Central America/Palestine; i.e., fully satisfied himself and his constituency of his 'macho toughness'.
It's a long-shot, but quien sabe?
Based on Trump's current behavior, I think nothing about the man has changed. His public utterances since taking office are pure bombast and if there is anything to take place between him and Putin, I would venture Trump will continue to act the fool by playing Let's Make a Deal with the leader of the nation with even more nukes than we have.
I have no words to sufficiently describe the view I have of the current quality of the US political class. The closest I can come is a heinously dangerous clot of clods who collectively thump their chests and utter inanities continuously exposing their vast ignorance and prejudices.
I truly hope Trump can withstand the onslaught from our war parties.
Were Trump able to fully illuminate the sordid history leading up to the clusterfuck in Ukraine, I believe the American people would rally behind him and support the separation of Ukrainian civilian population from what has turned out to be a death grip, thanks to the US cold-warrior class, along with Zelensky and his sponsors.
But they do have something to offer the Russians in exchange for not taking the whole of Ukraine. The total drop of all sanctions against the Federation. This would be in the West’s interest too.
This is what I expect the final deal will look like.
Why would anyone offer the Russians anything in exchange for not doing something they’ve pretty much established they’re completely incapable of doing?
Definitely it'll be in the interest of EU. American interest is a bit different. U.S. and UK were always against economic cooperation between continental Europe and Russia. Particularly between Germany and Russia. One of the goals of the war in Ukraine was to separate Russia from EU.
Arrogance and naked aggression will be the downfall of many…
Hubris comes before the fall.
Well, that's about as transparent as lies get. I don't know who this bullshit is directed at, but if there is an audience for it I honestly forthrightly feel very sorry for them. This is exactly the goal. Of course it is. But if they are trying to achieve this based on the false assumptions underlying the Kellogg
planlist of nonstarters, signified in remarks by Rubio – and Trump himself made in public – may or may not actually believe, then they may safely skip the 100 days and declare failure today.You failed to cite any lies. But you claimed you see lies. Go figure.
Kellogg said the war was easily prevented, and our billions of assets give to Ukraine was a mistake.
Ok then, I identified 2 things Kellogg is right on, and you identified 0 things he is wrong on.
Ukraine is a gargantuan Biden failure, but I am sure you folks waited only 1 day to declare it a Trump failure. No sale.
It became a Trump failure when Trump escalated Ukraine aid into the “lethal weapons” category Obama had abstained from. Absent Trump’s aid, the Ukrainian forces probably wouldn’t have won in the Donbas, precipitating Putin’s escalation from proxy war to all-out invasion.
Yeah, Trump's record when it comes to the Ukraine speaks a whole lot louder than his rhetoric. And even that rhetoric is vague, and seems to be ever shifting, and not just in terms of the absurd, one day, deadline.
Oh God partisan crap. Well, thanks for demonstrating how false assumptions lead to terrible conclusions I guess.
Trump campained on that one day nonsense. He even claimed that he would have the war settled BEFORE he took office. So, he owns it. No matter what you say and no matter how you try to deflect and both sides and waddabout.
That is true, it now is Trump's war. Even with hindsight he learned nothing. Almighty Trump should know, he can't bully Putin and his people.
He needs a good adviser who could familiarize him with the real situation in Russia and Ukraine. He started handling the problem extremely clumsy.
In public he was his old self, the conman on one hand the bully on the other hand, charming to get through the door and to open the gate to let the bull in. Not a diplomatic twinkle.
He picked the advisers, it does not look good. All OF THEM think that sanctions and military threats and actions and deception is DIPLOMACY.
It is really a US failure starting with W. Bush, it became Biden's war when he provoked it when he could have prevented it and he had a second chance to end it early a long time ago.
And Biden had no opposition at home from a one party neocon congress.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/trump-fails-to-end-ukraine-war-on-day-1/
One would expect Klaus Schwab to push every button and pull every lever to facilitate a nuclear war necessary to drastically reduce the world's population. By 2030?
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/trump-storms-out-the-gate-but-already
Trump and Rubio have no agency to negotiate on Ukraine's behalf. Trump may unilaterally dissolve America's NATO membership. That's a significant motion, but that's all he can offer and is unlikely to occur.
Trump has at least the formal authority to tell Zelensky that he can take the deal that he, Trump, works out with Putin, or he, Zelensky, faces a cut off of US aid. That is a lot less drastic than pulling the US out of NATO.
The US has become Europe's biggest enemy, pulling the USA out of NATO would be the best that could happen to Europe. NATO serves purely US interests in Iraq, and Afghanistan come to mind and Ukraine and funded much of the costs of US bases in their countries. By destroying and deindustrializing Germany and with it the EU the US is shooting its own foot.
Most NATO members are members of the EU. Europeans are fed up with US economical coercions and sanctions. More than half of the world population are BRICS members.
The USA is turning friends into enemies by treating them like enemies, not allies, the NE pipeline sabotage is part of that. All while China, Russia and India are making friends around the globe.
I suggest pulling America's participation in Ukraine is akin to dissolving its NATO membership.
Destroying Russia militarily and economically is NATO's raison d'etre. How President Trump wants to engineer the admission that NATO is feckless is his problem.
I guess I don’t see that kinship. Pulling the plug on the Ukraine is of relatively little importance. NATO is a whole other thing. A treaty-based military alliance spanning two continents of membership and active on at least three. NATO is the cornerstone of US foreign policy. The Ukraine is a misadventure that can quite easily be overcome.
how is Poodle’s 3 day special needs operation going?
hah
the Kremlin twink and dink squad must be proud
Trump: "That's my boy!"