President Biden spent hundreds of billions of dollars supporting Ukraine in its war with Russia, but according to a report from Time Magazine, a Ukrainian victory was never his goal.
Throughout the nearly three-year proxy war, the Biden administration never set any clear goals and only repeated mantras, such as the promise to support Ukraine for “as long as it takes.”
Eric Green, who was on Biden’s National Security Council at the time of the invasion, told Time that the administration never gave any promises to help Ukraine take back the land Russian forces had captured.
“We were deliberately not talking about the territorial parameters,” Green said. “That was not going to be a success story ultimately. The more important objective was for Ukraine to survive as a sovereign, democratic country free to pursue integration with the West.”

The report said Biden set three objectives for the war: ensure Ukraine would survive as a sovereign state, keep the US and its allies united, and avoid a direct war with Russia.
However, there was another goal not mentioned in the report: weakening Russia, something then-Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin acknowledged back in April 2022 after his first trip to Ukraine during the war. Austin’s trip came after the US and its allies discouraged peace talks between Russia and Ukraine even though there was a deal on the table that could have led to a Russian withdrawal in exchange for Ukrainian neutrality.
On their way out, Biden administration officials claimed the proxy war was a success despite Ukraine’s lack of a path toward victory. “It’s unfortunately the kind of success where you don’t feel great about it,” Green told Time. “Because there is so much suffering for Ukraine and so much uncertainty about where it’s ultimately going to land.”
The Time report noted that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who defined victory as expelling Russian forces and taking Crimea, recently complained about Biden despite the massive amount of aid he provided.
“With all due respect to the United States and the administration,” Zelensky told podcast host Lex Fridman, “I don’t want the same situation like we had with Biden. I ask for sanctions now, please, and weapons now.”
“We were deliberately not talking about the territorial parameters,” Green said. “That was not going to be a success story ultimately. The more important objective was for Ukraine to survive as a sovereign, democratic country free to pursue integration with the West.”
Note the utter shamelessness here … that was not going to be a success story for whom? The Ukrainians doing the fighting and bleeding and dying or the US regime apparats making a few billion bucks? Was the concept of their nation’s utter destruction and depopulation on the altar of pursuing integration with the west approved by the Ukrainian population?
Ironically, Russia seemed fine with economic integration. It merely feared a military threat on its border.
Seems like it was the West that wasn't fine with Ukraine taking a better gas deal – the Inciting Incident to this whole mess back in, what, 2012 ?
"Note the utter shamelessness here." So noted, my friend. Your note is well received. The only problem is your selection of the word "shamelessness" is way too polite for my taste and I will spend the rest of today cussing and ranting, while I try to find a more applicable word. I guess that's why they call me my name.
Of course…! The main goal was to weaken Russia and that failed miserably…!
"A Ukrainian Victory Was Never Biden’s Goal: Time Magazine." Funny title. But not that funny to the million Ukrainians who died believing that horse manure.
Not according to Trump yesterday talking about it while signing EO's. he said that Russia is weak, high inflation, can no longer sell its oil once the US will ship oil all over again. so I guess Trump agrees with Biden that Russia is a weak helpless country now that can be further exploited.
True Capitalism?….
;-/
Ego talks to mislead US public…!
Russia has secured its traditional lands.
Russia has regained it’s prestige.
Russia is self sufficiant.
Spassiba Joe Biden! 🇷🇺
"Russia has secured its traditional lands"
Not all of them. Not yet.
pro-russia freak detected!
Russia was originally called "Moscovia" because Moscow was about the only thing it had. The Moscovians were a barbaric Mongol tribe and appropriated the name "Russia" from the Ukrainians, a more civilized European tribe who were originally called the Kyivan Rus'. The Moscovians have been periodically pillaging the Ukrainians for centuries. It's about time they got a taste of their own medicine.
What about the actual subject here? We know, no comment there.
My my how times have changed. Now Kiev is the barbarian hoard and Russia is the cradle of the Slavic world.
LOL
cradle of the slavic world my ass
Russia is terrible, they were the mongole horde
Russia just gave up and surrendered themselves while us POLES fought BRAVELY and HEROICALLY for out freedom
No, you’re thinking of the Khazars who ran the place for a little while but were eventually eclipsed by the Rus.
The Poles are a joke
your opinionz are a joke
And you’re dumb.
862 Vikings led by Rurik settle in Novgorod and bring territory under their control.
882 They move their seat to Kiev,
They were the original Rus, Hence the name Kievan Rus.
The people who lived in the region were Slavs.
The Slavs and the Vikings (Rus) formed a symbiosis.
‘Ukrainians’ as such did not exist at that time.
KIEVAN RUS AND ITS SUCCESSORS
The vast empire of Kievan Rus was governed in ‘principalities’ or ‘princedoms’, including Kiev, Novgorod, Vladimir-Suzdal, Volyn, Halych, Polotsk, Smolensk, Chernikov and Pereyaslavl.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1939ef400f2a00cb674e14c4402581513f9c70dfbbb1ba831606fbb202d430fa.png
In the years 1236-1242, the Mongol invasion led to the downfall of Kievan Rus. The Mongols destroyed the cities; in 1240 they set Kiev on fire. Novgorod in the far north was spared because it surrendered in time.
Volyn and Halych
In 1253, Volyn and Halych formed a single kingdom, the Kingdom of Galicia-Volyn or the Kingdom of Rus.
The name ‘Halych’ (city) changed to ‘Galicia’ (territory). It was a relatively strong state for several decades, but tributary to the Golden Horde.
Vladimir-Suzdal
In Vladimir-Suzdal, Moscow gained the upper hand over the cities Vladimir, Suzdal, Tver and Rostov in the first decades of the 14th century. This became the Grand Duchy of Moscow, also tributary to the Golden Horde.
Both states claimed to be the successor of Kievan Rus.
The Kingdom of Poland annexed the Kingdom of Galicia-Volyn in 1349, which ceased being an independent state.
The Grand Duchy of Moscow became the Tsardom of Russia in 1547.
LOL
If it weren't pro russia this would be pure comedy!
"Russia" has no traditional lands
"Russia" started as a rebellious province of Ukraine
"Russia" has no prestige, russia is a genocidal fascist state led by a leader who has shit for brains and his dumbass attack poodle Medvedev
Russia (the country, not the people) is a shitstain to the world and it is disgusting to see any person support that goddamn thing of a respectable country
Don’t you mean Ukrainians (Cossacks, Ruthenians, etc) don’t have any traditional lands other than what the Russian Empire allowed them to live on? Just like the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Habsburg Empire?
Also, it looks like Russia added some more territory and expanded its pre-2022 borders and more territory to come in the near future.
Good luck with the rebuilding of the newest European state, “Eastern Poland”.
слава східної польщі
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4868725ed9caa9b8c804171e8a7302830231c8255130f86dad260653311ebefa.jpg
pro-russia propogandist detected!
pro-russia propogandist detected!
This leads to a matter which – at least for me – is difficult: from when on can a ukrainian people as an entity and with that name be distinguished? When did people themselves begin to consider themselves as such?
Andrew Wilson writes in Ukraine at war: baseline identity and social construction that "Ukraine is a great testing ground for theories of nationalism".
And Edward Walker writes in Ukraine: divided nation, divided state "that what we typically call “ethnicity” – and what in post-Soviet space is usually referred to as “nationality” – captures only part of a very complex cultural and linguistic story in Ukraine."
I would not identify Cossacks-in-general with Ukrainians-in-general. There were Don Cossacks and Dnjepr Cossacks; Don Cossacks were not 'Ukrainians' and Dnjepr Cossacks did not consider themselves as such.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3b7e04ef4dff58b9db2218725718b81224c1bc5fb0f6a70a207415accdfb2586.jpg Cossack on horseback
Ruthenians can be considered to be 'people living in the region that was referred to as Ruthenia', or more specifically the region that around 1650 was a candidate for a third part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Those people did not call themselves 'a ukrainian people' and were not called such.
Krzysztóf w Łódź Dwa might provide some interesting input on this from the ukrainian nationalist point of view.
finally someone who values multiple inputs
That is of the utmost importance, of course.
Just as in media I diversify my sources.
In New secretary of state Marco Rubio says Ukraine war needs to end in a reply to Thomas L. Knapp I just posted an interview with Zelensky on CNN from march 2022 in which he talks about NATO.
I'm interested in what you think about that.
"The more important objective was for Ukraine to survive as a sovereign, democratic country free to pursue integration with the West."
Before the coup 2014, Ukraine was more sovereign and more democratic country than after the coup. So, it is a lie.
The integration with the West means NATO membership and deployment of American missiles on Ukrainian territory which could shift military balance between U.S. and Russia in favor of U.S. and of course the replacement of Russian navy in Crimea by American one which was announced by Ukrainian leaders of the coup immediately after they came to power.
The membership in NATO is a direct violation of Declaration of Independence of Ukraine in 1991. Recognition of Ukrainian independence by Russia was based on this declaration. When Ukrainian leadership denounced that Act of Declaration of Independence, Russia had all the rights to denounce the recognition of Ukrainian independence too.
There wasn't any coup. Putin's puppet, Yanukovych, packed his helicopter with loot and fled to Russia during the Revolution of Dignity, a grassroots uprising against Putin and Yanukovych's kleptocracy and their responsibility for "riot police" murdering at least 100 unarmed protestors. I was in the crowd shown in the video below and was lucky not to be murdered myself:
Calling it not a coup doesn't make it not a coup. Call your faction grassroots all you want but if you have any allegiance to your country and democracy, what matters is which group gets more votes. Otherwise what matters is who is better at oppressing and killing.
Most of the time when someone mentions "grassroots" it seems the 'grass' they refer to is The Marijuana.
The half-Baked assertion it was not a coup, confirms my suspicion in this case.
US officials admitted it was a coup. You are reciting color revolution rhetoric.
You're reciting idiot trumpist rhetoric
why listen to the facts if you have
Muh Ukrainian Biolabs!
Muh Azov Nazis!
Muh Putin is good!
Muh Genocide in the Donbass
Muh Ukrainian false flags
Muh Zelekskyy is a fascist!
"Ukrainian Biolabs!"
A fact in evidence but not relevant as an inciting factor.
"Azov Nazis!"
A fact in evidence since that German journalist's report circa 2012.
"Putin is good!"
Subjective; calls for speculation. Not factual.
"Genocide in the Donbass"
Inaccurate. Ethnic cleansing, very likely. Racist actions by Kiev, definitely.
"Ukrainian false flags"
Needs clarification; cite exact examples.
"Zelekskyy is a fascist"
Merriam-Webster definition : Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (yes) that exalts nation (yes) and often race (yes) above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government (yes) headed by a dictatorial leader (yes), and that is characterized by severe economic (yes) and social (yes) regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition (yes).
*(yes) are my insertion to indicate definitional characteristics that Zelenskiyy meets and/or exceeds, as facts in evidence by his statements and policies as Ukraine's (now un-elected) leader.
lol
i am disgusted to be libertarian socialist if this is what my fellow “compatriots” think
zeleksnkyy is not a fascist and he only meets 1 or 2 of those definitions
Kyiv never did anything remotely anti-russia
No, Yanukovych followed his policies, described as multi-vector. He was not a NATO and EU puppet and that is what you blame him for.
Towards the end of november 2013, a fairly spontaneous protest arose by Ukrainians against corruption and western Ukrainians against the government's rejection of an economic treaty with the EU. That rejection was rational, because that treaty with the EU was partly aimed at economically cutting off Ukraine from Russia (goal of the US regime and EU political bodies), which was contrary to the interests and wishes of russian-oriented Ukrainians, and Russia made a better economic offer (see other forum members’ comments on gas prices).
At the end of january 2014, it degenerated into a violent coup, partly orchestrated by agents of the US regime and carried out by ukrainian Nazis.
Then you would have been shot by nazi snipers.
The most thorough investigations are by Ivan Katchanovski, the renowned ukrainian-canadian scholar:
– The 'snipers' massacre' on the Maidan in Ukraine
– The separatist war in Donbas: a violent break-up of Ukraine?
– The Maidan massacre in Ukraine: revelations from trials and government investigations
– The buried Maidan massacre and its misrepresentation by the West
– The far right, the Euromaidan, and the Maidan massacre in Ukraine
– The Maidan massacre in Ukraine, the mass killing that changed the world
– interview on Neutrality Studies
"multi-vector" that is the problem. In time of war one has to choose sides. The war was approaching but he never paid any attention to that. Lukashenko, the leader of Belarus, did. Where now is Belarus and where is Ukraine.
wow you were there?
Are you Ukrainian or Spanish?
Carlo is just my screen name. I’m American. I could have reached out and touched that casket. Or Klitschko, as he and his entourage walked through the crowd.
Oh
Do you live here in EUrope
I’ve just retired from my job in Budapest, and I’m visiting my relatives in Texas. I’ve applied for German citizenship based on my ancestry (My real name is Karl.) As soon as I get it, I’d like to move to Europe: Germany, Italy (hence, Carlo), or Ukraine. You’re Polish?
Yes
You were Ukrainian and in university before you got banned the first time. Guess you saw that Ukrainian drone pilots are likely to be called into the trenches so you transferred studies to Warsaw A&M or Gdansk State and wisely GTFO ?
What substance are you on
I was gonna guess you Burkina Fasonese, New Zealander, or South Philly.
"were you there ?"
The admission of intellectual failure by religious apologists and Western propagandists alike.
That is well stated.
Eric Green and Time Magazine are awful sources for anything. They now make excuses for being wrong and failing.
Biden had called for Putin to be removed, and, Russia broken up, Russia rendered unable to attack any nation again. So, Biden wanted much more than a Ukrainian victory.
Biden was a competent global autocrat, politely building toward worldwide dominance in the name of freedom, more often with a pen and handshake than bombs and bullets. Maybe the incompetent bully we have in charge now will help the world finally unite against this oppression.
Nonsense, leftist propagandist.
Your hero Crook Biden opposed all negotiations, Trump is initiating them.
What do you mean by that TP?! I am a bloody leftist and have spent my life working for Peace!
Watch your wording, good sir! Your words may haunt you!…
that tends to be the case with most conservatives
i dislike Trumpists.
Wanna know why?
They have inflated ego's and think they're special.
Trumpf Dumpf is not special, he is an inane moron
Well stated and highly contemplative!…
Here we are and the final narrative regarding this conflict is taking shape. I’m surprised that the Biden admin is not spinning this as some sort of victory.
We must also remember that the “as long as it takes” narrative was changed to “as long as we can”.
The Democrats had a doozy of a term supporting and perpetuating the conflict in the Ukraine as well as the genocide in Gaza.
Isn’t the US supposed to be prepared for war with China in 2025?
😂
2027. Let's not rush things. 😉
In its attack on Donbass. Russia had no wish for war and asked repeatedly that Ukraine sign the Minsk II agreement that it had signed, which said Donbass would remain in Ukraine as an autonomous region, and Ukraine would stop murdering people there with artillery. Ukraine never stopped.
In the summer 2021 Zelensky sold out Ukraine's public land to the highest bidder. Biden's ally BlackRock got a lot, and China got 10% of all farmland. Zelensky had campaigned on "fighting the oligarchs" and bringing peace between Ukraine-speakers and Russia-speakers, and he did the opposite. He was clearly bribed – Ukraine is ultra-corrupt. His ratings plummeted to just above 30%, same as for Biden.
Then he ramped up the daily shellings of Donbass, especially the city of Donetsk. Government buildings, schools, apartments were hit. From 20 times a day, the shellings rose to about 100 times a day, as UN observers confirmed.
In February 2022 the shellings increased to more than 1,000 times per day, even 2,000 times, while Zelensky had amassed a force of 60,000, clearly to invade Donbass.
Only then did Russia finally intervene. They did this in accordance with the UN rule for an emergency intervention to stave off a military attack or ethnic cleansing, and in Donbass Ukraine's Russian-hating battalions like Azov would do both.
Russia's president Putin instructed his forces to be cautious so as to damage civilian infrastructure as little as possible – even to not hit military targets at times. But the Ukrainians pulled their artillery into the city streets, forcing Russia to damage buildings when they responded to the artillery fire. Then the Ukrainians could post pictures and say, "look, they're bombing buildings!"
In Azov-occupied Mariupol, the Azov Battalion had said "we're in enemy territory." They once fired at protesters. Now they withdrew from positions outside the city to inside the city. They put military vehicles next to bomb shelters, hoping the Russians would hit them. They had their HQ in the basement of a theater building, and they forced Russian-speaking civilians into the theater, hoping they would be killed if Russia bombed the building.
Throughout all this Russia only asked for peace. In the Istanbul negotiations, they offered to withdraw, if Ukraine would simply follow the Minsk II agreement they had already signed in 2015. Donbass would remain in Ukraine, even without its borders defined, so that it could be fully reintegrated in Ukraine at some point in the future. Russia only asked that Ukraine not join NATO, as the Ukrainians would use that as a shield to invade and kill the people in Donbass.
Russia and Donbass didn't even ask for the pensions of the old people in Crimea and Donbass – pensions that the Ukrainians had stolen. The Ukrainians also cut off all water supplies, all electricity and all wheat exports. Whereas when Russia took the Zhaporozhie power plant, they still allowed the Ukrainians to get power from the plant. Not that the Biden-loyal media will tell you.
What a contrast between regimes and policies! Time Mag clearly shows up the Washington regime of war criminals, … and Putin's Camelot.
ARTHUR: Camelot!
SIR GALAHAD: Camelot!
LANCELOT: Camelot!
PATSY: It's only a model
All accurate and all true – and all evident facts completely ignored by MSM and a surprising handful of Commenters on here. Thanks for that !!
LOL
Muh MSM!
Oh I’m sorry, has CBS, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, WaPo, NYT somehow NOT been a) complete shills and b) complete s**t at journalism, since 2001 ?????
all the people you don't agree with are shills
i think like that too
small world!
hi swede!
To the USA (learned from the British empire), International relations and economics are a zero-sum game: the next best thing to your "empire" succeeding is that other nations fail.
Sabotage is easier than self improvement.
Interesting cynicism, truly.
Couldn't agree more. Their success in toppling the secular government in Syria and replacing it with Al Qaiiida is likely to go to their head. I'm expecting a new list of countries to fu@k up very soon. Some of them not new and some of them not that new either.
US is following the Stock Market strategy…!
I dreamt that a dead Ukrainian soldier woke me up to tell me: "NOW, YOU TELL ME!?"
Healthy cynicism NA and a tad profound…
you're british?
I don't believe what they say that Ukraine and Isra-hell are like evil twin sisters, just as Zelensky and Satanyahu are evil twin brothers. …What's that? …I told you I don't believe that. …What now!? …You don't believe me!?
lol
israel and ukraine are different
I don't believe what they say that Ukraine and Isra-hell are like evil twin sisters, just as Zelensky and Satanyahu are evil twin brothers. …What's that? …I told you I don't believe that. …What now!? …You don't believe me!?
And to make Ukrainians hate Russia. And to weaken Europe and to drive a wedge between Europe and Russia, which has somewhat been driven into Asia.
Russia loses a lot of gas revenue, at least until it can build new pipes into Asian buyers.
Maybe the primary goal was just to sell arms to the US and Europe.
Ukrainians already hated Russians (and Poles, and Hungarians, and Romanians, and …), which is why the Banderites were happy to work with the Germans during WWII.
Russians wanted to work with the Germans too, but the Germans didn’t want them. Many hated the Bolsheviks.
Hopefully, after this, Ukrainians will hate the west for 1000 years. Russia at least, for better or worse, is straightforward in their actions and motivations; the west is devious, duplicitous, treacherous, immoral and flat out evil.
Georgia, Romania, Slovakia, Hungary and Bulgaria seem to be finally coming around to this POV as well. If they really do, then Good for Them.
lol
georgian election was rigged
in hungary fidesz no longer leads the polls
Ukrainians don't hate us
If so then this by the grace of their ignorance. When – not if – that veil is lifted, the psyops fades and reality in all its naked undeniability sinks in, they will inevitably come to the full realization how they have been fucked over and by who, hate and shame will fight for prevalence.
They will when we abandon them to Russia’s ‘de-Nazification’.
Of course I’m referring to ethnic Ukrainians, many Ukrainian citizens are of other ethnicities (I saw a commentator refer to Ukraine as “that place where you put parts of other countries that you’re not using.”)
Alleged collateral damages…. or, DC politicians cannot comprehend that level of details…!
Some people really believed Putin would be overthrown by some pro-US leader. I expect the US wants to break Russia up, which might be good. Breaking the US up could also be good.
They don't need to break up anything… They just need to learn how to coexist…!
It’s tough to know what’s best. I don’t claim to know. I tend to focus on the US. Russia isn’t my business.
No, it is not good to break up great countries. Then we'll have even more of geopolitical mess and bloodshed. Besides, the old centers of power would be unavoidably replaced by new ones, more ambitious and more aggressive.
The US could buy Greenland, merge with Canada, breakup Russia, merge with the Far East, build bases on both sides of Moscow!!
Just kidding.
Kidding aside you just described Trump's vision and his goal. He even brushed aside BRICS like a bunch of nobodies.
Would that be Trump's Virtual Vision…?!
I suspect that much of this bombastic stuff that Trump says is for consumption by his base, who get all their "news" on what they might be told by Fox News or Steve Bannon. They seem to really know not much else about BRICS, or what have you.
I hope so, for then the US regime would say Moscow threatens its security interests by placing the city in the middle of their military bases!
Breaking things up creates more instability. So did the 2014 coup. We need stability.
I wonder why Ukrainians would hate russia
Is it because of the active Russian genocide against Ukraine?
The daily bombings and destruction of cities?
THe innocent lives lost to the Horde?
https://www.rt.com/russia/611389-russia-drafting-seize-western-assets/
What’s mine is yours, what’s yours is mine…
Thank you; I trust that's a good summary of Thomas' RT article. 😉
I can’t open that link, because – believe it or not – in the EU RT is censored.
Some politicians, a majority apparently, have determined that people are not allowed to read it.
Russia drafting new law to seize Western assets – media
The legislation is expected to target nations that unlawfully confiscate Moscow’s funds and properties, Izvestia newspaper reports
Russia drafting new law to seize Western assets – media
© Getty Images / Westend61
Russian authorities are drafting a new bill allowing for the seizure of assets belonging to Western states that have illegally confiscated Moscow’s property and funds, newspaper Izvestia reported on Tuesday, citing documents prepared by the government legislation commission.
The draft bill outlines the legal procedure and emphasizes that targeted foreign assets will be transferred into Russian state ownership after a ruling by a court of arbitration. The list of properties and funds subject to seizure will be compiled by the country’s commission on foreign investments.
In May, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree laying the groundwork for confiscating assets of US companies and individuals to compensate for any Russian assets expropriated by Washington.
If adopted, the broader legislation will target “unfriendly” Western states and related individuals, allowing Moscow to seize assets as reimbursement for financial damages incurred by Russia from the illegal confiscation of its funds and properties, the draft legislation reads. The commission will reportedly review the draft bill as soon as next week.
Vedomosti newspaper has cited two sources as saying that the bill was drafted by the country’s Ministry of Justice and was included in the commission’s agenda on January 20. Izvestia noted that the document has been approved by the relevant authorities, including the Bank of Russia, the Finance Ministry, the Economy Ministry and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Putin lays groundwork for confiscation of US assetsREAD MORE: Putin lays groundwork for confiscation of US assets
Washington and its allies have frozen around $300 billion of sovereign Russian assets held in the Brussels-based Euroclear, since the escalation of the Ukraine conflict in 2022. Kiev has been persistently urging its Western backers to expropriate Russia’s sovereign assets and use them to cover Ukraine’s military and reconstruction expenses.
The US administration headed by Joe Biden supported the proposal but European nations have rejected the idea due to mounting concerns over the illegitimacy of such a move, arguing that it could land a hard blow on the Western financial system and the reputation of the euro.
Western allies were also planning to impose a windfall tax on profits generated by the frozen Russian assets, and to spend the proceeds either directly to buy weapons for Ukraine or to offer them as collateral for a loan, which would then be used to bolster the country’s military.
The Kremlin has repeatedly denounced the asset freeze as “theft” and argued that tapping into these funds would be illegal and set a dangerous precedent. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has warned that Moscow will take legal action against those involved in the asset seizure.
Wasn't antiwar.com saying the same thing from the very start?
"The report said Biden set three objectives for the war: ensure Ukraine would survive as a sovereign state, keep the US and its allies united, and avoid a direct war with Russia."
Yet what we've seen entered into evidence as Biden's apparent objectives, were :
1. Keep Ukrainians killing Russians at any cost to Ukrainians.
2a. Make NATO Great Again.
2b. Rile up the Russian Federation to scare countries on its border into pleading for NATO membership.
2c. Put Ukraine on firm course to NATO membership.
3. Try to provoke the Russian Federation into attacking a NATO state or asset in order to start a direct war.
Sound logic Uncle S.!
4. Blew up North stream pipelines to weaken EU economy increasing its dependence on US…!
THAT one, at least, is a start-to-finish success for Joltin’ Joe’s administration. Good call !
you're hilarious
i mean it
NATO is amazing our alliance was never not great
Is there a double negative in there?!…
Yes
They aren't allowd in Polish I dont think
Curious, does the taste of mind-affecting drugs come thru in the Flavor-Aid, in the quantities you’ve evidently dumped down your propaganda-hole ?
bwahah
Especially when the US taxpayer pays for most of it, while the parasite countries in the EU slide.
Trumpty Dumpty walked on a wall
"Land in greenland for all"
Litltle hath realised the little twit
Few people gave a shit
ROTFLMAO!…
There never has been the goal of victory in any of the illegal, unconstitutional wars Wash. got the American People into since WWII. Korea was an excuse to bomb NK back to the stone age with left over bombs from WWII so more bombs could be manufactured.
Wash. knew Vietnam was a great place for a quagmire to keep the munitions being made, and kill off the boomer boys because there weren't enough jobs to employ all of them; actually that could be defined as an after-birth abortion for U.S. labor's convenience and job security for older workers. That's why the WWII generation supported that war.
Afghanistan was also a great quagmire. Wash. knew no country has ever defeated the Afghan People, so just keep those bombs and hardware coming; same ol', same ol'.
And, any new wars to come will also be for the sole purpose of: MONEY, MONEY and MONEY for those who profit from wars, death and destruction, and the American People are powerless to stop this policy.
Talking about manufacturing bombs, don't miss this document of 15 september 1945:
1945 – Atomic bomb production
Some citations:
"6. (…) the initial mission of the air force units allocated for preparation, transportation, and delivery of these atomic bombs should be the immediate destruction of the enemy centers of industry, transportation, and population.
(…)
8. As a foundation, a list was compiled of all Russian cities having any major strategic importance. These 66 cities were plotted on the map (…).
9. From the basic list, a group of 15 first priority cities and a group of 25 second priority cities were selected. (…)
The primary objective for the application of the atomic bomb is manifestly the simultaneous destruction of these fifteen first priority targets. Based on our experience with the bombs dropped to date, three well-placed bombs would throw a modern city of any size into chaos an definitely incapacitate it for an appreciable period of time. Four of these cities would require only two bombs and one city only one bomb to completely destroy them.
10. It is obvious that the immediate destruction of the complete list of 66 cities would have an even more devastating effect on Russia. Therefore, an optimum requirement for atomic bomb stocks would be the number necessary to obliterate all of these cities.
(…)
14. Appendix B to Tab A shows the range coverage of the USSR by B-29’s and B-36’s from the bases presently in our possession, from those currently proposed, and from possible airbases peripheral to the USSR which might possibly be available. It can readily be seen that the B-36, with a radius of 5000 miles, can reach any portion of the USSR from bases in Alaska, but that the B-29 can only reach the important Russian strategic centers from bases in Europe and Asia. This points out the necessity of retaining bases in Europe and Asia until the B-36 becomes operational and the desirability of retaining them longer."
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5de80467606f480f6aded4c6a7fbf9f8a00302c60c1c789723de4bf08f777cb7.jpg
Biden never had a goal. All the rest is BS. The man was not a deep thinker. I've long since abandoned any effort to seek rational explanations for his so-called policy gambits.
He would have been better off as a local assemblyman in some small town, and so would the country.
The only good thing he ever did was further expose the true black heart of US imperialism.
He would have been better off as a local assemblyman in some small town, and so would the country.
But that poor small town.