President-elect Donald Trump confirmed on Wednesday that he was nominating Marco Rubio, the extremely hawkish senator from Florida, to be secretary of state in the incoming administration.
Trump’s statement came two days after The New York Times reported Rubio was expected to get the job. POLITICO reported that Rubio’s nomination and the appointment of Rep. Mike Waltz (R-FL) as Trump’s National Security Advisor relieved Ukraine supporters in the US who were worried the incoming administration would end the proxy war.
Rubio has been in the Senate since 2010 and has been about as hawkish as possible. In 2015, he was the preferred Republican presidential candidate of the neoconservatives, as he supported wreckless escalations overseas, such as the enforcement of a no-fly-zone over Syria, which risked war with Russia.
During the previous Trump administration, Rubio was very influential in policies in Latin America, including the failed US-backed coup against Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro in 2019. That year, Rubio tweeted a picture that showed former Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi as he was being brutally killed, suggesting Maduro could face a similar fate.
More recently, Rubio has been an outspoken supporter of Israel’s genocidal war in Gaza and has called for the US to take a harder line on Iran. After Iran’s most recent missile attack on Israel, which came in response to a string of Israeli escalations, Rubio said, “I urge the reimposition of a maximum pressure campaign against Iran and fully support Israel’s right to respond disproportionately to stop this threat. The United States will continue to stand with Israel.”
Last year, Rubio introduced a bill in Congress to prevent any future president from leaving NATO, which President Biden signed into law.
Rubio has also built a reputation of being one of the most hardline China hawks in Congress. In 2020, China placed sanctions on Rubio in response to a series of US sanctions against officials in Hong Kong. The sanctions may bar Rubio from entering China and could complicate his role as the US’s top diplomat. In 2023, China appointed a defense minister who was under US sanctions, and the US refused to lift them.
I guess Rubio would vacate his senate seat, opening it to another who is perhaps less hawkish.
Good one. The glass half full thingy.
Snort.
I wish someone would vacate Grahmnesty with a new job offer.
The optimist sees the glass as half full.
The pessimist sees the glass as half empty.
The engineer sees the glass as twice the size it needs to be.
The quid pro quo of the Rubio appointment as Secretary of State could be Gov Desantis appointing Lara Trump to the Senate seat.
In any event, Trump will have the final say on any foreign policy decisions in his administration. Don't expect "Lil' Marco" to overrule the President.
Giving up a senate seat is a big deal.
My assumption is that the establishment RNC has this time as in 2016/17 one big quid pro quo that they do all of the functional work of governing in exchange for letting the only person they have who generates votes pretend to be president.
Then hopefully King Donald plans on doing a lot of overruling.
Don't expect Trump to overrule his owners and everyone around him who tells him what he should do – because he doesn't know anything about anything.
This notion that "Trump is just putting people who are beholden to him to do an end run around the Deep State" is complete bullshit.
It's just a variation of the "Trump is playing 3D chess" meme that we heard all during his first term. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now.
Yes, clearly the press should read "Miriam Adelman appointed…."
Everyone who supports the genocide in Gaza is no better than any German Nazi. Unfortunately, the new U.S. president is of the same moral value.
Actually they're worse. Most of the German public were ignorant of the existence of the death camps, they believed the announcements in the press that the J*ws were being resettled to colonies in eastern Poland and Ukraine. Very few who were not directly involved in the operations were really aware of what was going on.
That's not the case today, the genocide is being livestreamed. Anyone who calls it anything else is just outright lying, and 90% of people who cast ballots this election cycle knowingly voted for someone that they knew would use their tax dollars to fund and arm a genocide. The whole world is appalled.
"Most of the German public were ignorant of the existence of the death camps" That is not true. There are multiple books on life in Germany during the war. Read some and you will find out that German population was aware but simply did not care.
One of those famous books is the diary of Anne Frank. She and her family got under German occupation in Netherlands in spring 1940. Until summer 1942 she was studying in a school and lived more or less normal. Only after two years of the occupation, German authorities ordered them to report for a labor camp which they refused and preferred to hide. For example, Slavs in Belorussia were treated not any better. Germans started the deportation of young people to labor camps almost immediately after the occupation.
You are right but still the essence is the same:
both were brainwashed in believing that they are superior than other people. Both believed that because of their superiority they have right to take other peoples' land and treat other people as inferior. The genocide is only a logical consequence of Lebensraum policy.
https://genius.com/Warren-zevon-lawyers-guns-and-money-lyrics
Trump supporters are like a tiger that just got stabbed in the eye with a Marco Rubio. They'll still insist it's fine, it's okay, until Marco Rubio stabs Trump in the back. He can't help himself. He fed from the same breast as John Bolton.
Rubio will be fired or quit before his 4 years are up.
Israel is going to attempt to take the land in that period.
Hopefully, someone, anyone, feeds those kids in the meantime.
It will look bad if Israel destroys kids.
We knew it’d be a mixed bag. Voters care most about domestic policy, and the MIC is too powerful.
Reform is possibly happening with some appointments. Maybe it’ll follow through to foreign eventually. In any case, the US is broke, can’t afford empire for much longer.
Marco Rubio
@marcorubio
Leading the U.S. Department of State is a tremendous responsibility and I am honored by the trust President Trump has placed in me. As Secretary of State, I will work every day to carry out his his foreign policy agenda. Under the leadership of President Trump we will deliver peace through strength and always put the interests of Americans and America above all else. I look forward to earning the support of my colleagues in the U.S. Senate so the President has his national security and foreign policy team in place when he takes office on January 20.
3:06 PM · Nov 13, 2024
Whew! Now I feel so much better. Did he read from a teleprompter, or did Trump have his hand up his back? And an example of "peace through strength" would be what? If someone doesn't agree to our demands, we will sanction them into economic misery and/or bomb and drone them until they capitulate? That's what it sounds like to me.
Well you certainly won't get peace through weakness either. Trump understands that.
Oye vey!
And what makes Trump strong and Biden weak? There has to be a reason why Trump believes there would be no wars under his watch. Just saying it isn't enough for me. What would have stopped Russia from invading Ukraine if Trump were in the oval office?
Well we know that trump was ok with Iran attacking the US airbase.
So when Iran blasted the air base what was trump displaying?
Has to be teleprompter, Rump's not that coherent.
In Venezuela he's known as 'Narco Marco' because of his links to the Colombian and Panamanian cartels.
"peace through strength" also means even more money for the Merchants of Death.
From X:
Useful Idiots
@UsefulIdiotpod
1h
In 2015, Trump tweeted:
"Sheldon Adelson is giving big dollars to Rubio so he can mold him into his perfect little puppet."
In 2024, Miriam Adelson gave $100 million to the Trump campaign.
Who’s the puppet now?
I think Sheldon gave him big bucks too once he was nominated. And poof, no more JCPOA.
Nothing new with Neocons…
When the time came
do the right thing
to pay our bills
What do we do
double down
on an inflated psychosis
Elect a felonious insurrectionist psycho
as president
who brings in slavering yesmen/women
Yet
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it really doesnt matter
Which of the 2 faces
you nearly pick
it was bad before
Yes virginia
its gonna get much worse
can i click my heels now?
please?
can you beam me up then?
please
please…
If I were you I'd get out of this country while you still can. But of course you won't.
Democracy to You is You,what You want what You want and to hell with everyone else. Nothing to offer but fear hate threats when You dont get what you want and when You do get what You want. Thats called being selfish little p…..
egotistic
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egomaniacal
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self-absorbed
self-obsessed
self-seeking
self-serving
wrapped up in oneself
inward-looking
introverted
self-loving
inconsiderate
thoughtless
unthinking
uncaring
heedless
unmindful
regardless
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tactless
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out for what one can get
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Beautiful poetry. Keep writing brother!
Thanks, i did, 5 published books worth, yet i sell less than HDT….lol
You hate their poem so much you want them to leave the country? l o l
I’m trying to save him from the camps.
Is he here illegally?
Anything in here, anything at all that is a lie,a misconception, untruth or exaggeration?
i wish it was and i wrote it…
You said "elect", as if there was any choice whatsoever, as if Harris would have been any different.
Harris would have been different but not necessarily better. Trump 2024 B) Hopefully, we see some good.
In what aspect: she was cheering the Zio-genocide exactly like Trump was, even in internal affair, she was avoiding debating the number one issue for most people: the economy, just as Trump was. They are exactly the same!
I’m not claiming to know how each would be different, only that they will/would be.
Trump wants the fighting over sooner, but he’s willing to support more radical actions. Trump wants an end to other conflicts but will focus more on Israel. He might try more to isolate China and Iran.
I assume Harris might tolerate longer term warm war while Trump might do something big but quickly. Musk talking with Iran is a good sign.
Trump keeps saying the current situation makes Israel look bad. I agree. I expect him to find some place to send the 2.1m Palestinians, including the ruined children. It’s sad that Israel calls Arabs low IQ and then ruins their children to make it so…
I and many others have been saying all this time that there would be no difference whatsoever and that the only serious vote options were the likes of Jill Stein or Claudia de la Cruz.
We’ll see but all bets are onto war intensifying in West and East Asia alike, as Trump fills his cabinet with anti-Iran and anti-China hawks (also watch out in Latin America since Rubio is an agent of the extremely aggressive Miami mafia, with toxic imperialist tentacles across the Spanish-speaking world). Less clear is what happens in Ukraine but that’s a war that Russia has already won anyhow.
Per the 2017 revelations of Saudi exile Bin Farhan, published at MEMO on June 24, Trump, Netanyahu, Bin Salman and Al Sissi agreed to this ongoing Gaza genocide (it was by no means a Biden administration thing only). Bin Salman did not just agreed to passive acquiescence but even to finance the new refugee camps to be built in Sinai, in exchange he got US support for his power consolidation, which materialized soon afterwards in the great Saudi purge of October that same year. The main goal is to build a Gaza-Eilat canal under Israeli sovereignty. However something must have happened then that delayed the plan, unsure exactly what but maybe Erdogan was recalcitrant and, just as he prevented the Saudi invasion of Qatar (also in 2017), he may have prevented the Gaza genocide planned for 2018 initially.
In 2023 however Erdogan was fully captured by the USA-Israel tandem: he got a massive and much needed IMF loan and right away he lifted his objections for the accession of Sweden to NATO, he also cooperated with Israel (which he has been doing since c. 2011 anyhow against Syria and in the exploitation of the Iraqi Kurdish oilfields) and Azerbaijan (with Russian acquiescence) in the ethnic cleansing of some 200,000 Armenians in Artsakh (Karabakh). So Erdogan is now compromised in ways he wasn’t earlier and that’s maybe why the Gaza genocide is happening now.
In any case Trump is accomplice since day zero.
If the Palestinians are to be ethnically cleansed anyway, then it needs to be accomplished ASAP. Those children are being ruined if they aren’t already.
They need money and a future. They need basic essentials and a path to sustainable careers.
You get a block: zero tolerance to genocide!
I primarily disagree with your assertion that the two candidates were identical. Trump was nearly assassinated because he doesn’t obey as completely. That can be better and worse.
When Trump armed Ukraine, that created a situation that might have caused the war. Hillary might not have done that. Similarly, the Iran deal.
There are differences. Sometimes rejecting the status quo is worse. Nevertheless, I’m hopeful this time.
Ironically, I’m pretty sure Trump (publicly not privately) wants to protect Armenians.
He was not even properly injured: don’t make a martyr out of him when Gazans are being murdered by the hundreds of thousands and as for political leaders go, Netanyahu himself is being much more seriously targeted every single day (no luck yet). Robert Fico was actually injured by one such pro-Ukrainian murder attempt but Trump was most unlikely scratched by the ear, the most unlikely outcome ever. I never gave much importance to that but don’t make a martyr/hero of him just because a petty scratch!
Trump armed Ukraine? I’m pretty sure that the Ukraine problem was generated by the likes of Hillary Clinton, Victoria Nuland, McCain and Kerry. That was back in 2014, when a CIA-Gladio putsched against the neutralist and social-reformist Viktor Yanukovich. All the rest is so extremely bipartisan that it involved all the European leaders that matter, right and left, French and German alike.
You have very confused ideas, no wonder you vote for Trump.
One positive difference is Trump went after ISIS in Syria. Hillary wouldn’t have. Harris and Trump will be different.
With Trump it’s all about whether Rubio etc can trick Trump. Once he does something, like the vaccines or Soleimani assassination, he will not admit fault.
Similarly, Ivanka supposedly told him to attack Assad (the sympathy for the children thing). There is a large degree of manipulation of Trump. It’s not just some elites agreeing to a plan.
Actually that was the last year of Obama, when Trump arrived DAESH was already destroyed, mostly by the Kurdish “amazon militia” (YPJ, also men at the YPG and various smaller allied forces), all they needed was some air support.
In 2015-16, Obama had a major crisis vs Erdogan, who accused him of coup attempt. Obama deposed Gral. Allen and sided with Rojava instead against DAESH (a Turkish-CIA puppet with an Israeli “Caliph”). When Trump arrived he basically sold the Kurds to Turkey and allowed the Afrin genocide to happen.
The only thing positive that I see for this Trump admin are internal affairs: purge of the deep state by JFK Jr and Gabbard apparently. That looks promising but in foreign policy and war, especially in what regards to Palestine, I expect the worst.
It’d be better to focus on what Trump has actually done that’s bad.
Sanctions on Venezuela was pretty bad. Some other things might have some argument, but regardless the “insurrection” shouldn’t even be mentioned.
Some are pro-starving little kids. Some are against. Which are you? That is the question. That is the dichotomy.
https://mskvremya.ru/article/2023/1520-poteri-ukrainy-za-vremya-spetsoperatsii
Read these stats, Marco Rubio. Consistent these last few months.
You're asking a career politician to operate based on facts and statistics? I think that's been prohibited in the Untied States for the last two generations.
https://mskvremya.ru/article/2023/1520-poteri-ukrainy-za-vremya-spetsoperatsii
I don't ask anything of US career politicians. Become responsible for your security, cash repository, and grocery store owner.
WW3 by Proxy will continue for the next quadriennial.
Unfortunately, Rubio is NOT an ultra-hawk. A few years ago he supported Ukraine, but his recent public statements have been in line with Trump's plans for the war — a quick end to it. He's now in favor of negotiation rather than giving Ukraine what it needs to expel Russia from its territory. He was among 15 Republican senators who voted against the $61 billion Ukraine aid package, which finally passed in April.
https://kyivindependent.com/marc-rubios-stance-on-russias-war-in-ukraine-what-we-know/
It’s a blatantly lost war. On to the next scam.
He's still an ultra-hawk. He's just a bigger kiss ass.
He and the Repug Congress as well could flip on the Ukraine thing at the drop of a hat, IMO. After all, they still buy into the myth of "why" Putin invaded Ukraine, regardless of whether they currently favor billions in aid (they seem to be in favor of SOME aid) to Ukraine or not. It would only take something like a false flag event or a word from the CIC.
No doubt. Trump is all that is holding them back from flipping. I'm grateful for all those kiss asses in this instance.
You rock wars!
He'll be against it until Ivanka or Barron are offered a board seat on one of the major MIC members, then he'll be for it. During his last term he shoveled weapons by the shipload into Ukraine, and I have very little doubt that he'll do it again as soon as it's personally advantageous. Ignore what he says, watch what he does, the two have very little relationship with each other.
Nobody likes your Visigoths, really.