Ukraine is still pushing for the US to support long-range strikes inside Russian territory after a meeting between President Biden and British Prime Minister Keir Starmer ended with no announcements about the issue.
Biden and Starmer held talks at the White House on Friday, a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin warned that if the US allowed and supported long-range strikes inside Russia, it would mean NATO is at war with Russia.
Ahead of the meeting, the White House said the US hasn’t changed its policy regarding long-range strikes. “There is no change to our view on the provision of long-range strike capabilities for Ukraine to use inside of Russia,” said National Security Council spokesman John Kirby. “I would not expect any major announcement in that regard.”
The UK wants the US to sign off on Ukraine’s use of British-provided Storm Shadow missiles, which have a range of about 155 miles, inside Russian territory. But there’s no sign that Biden gave that permission during the meeting with Starmer, and according to The New York Times, the US is more concerned about the risk of escalation than the UK.
On Saturday, a high-level NATO official expressed support for long-range Ukrainian strikes inside Russia. “Every nation that is attacked has the right to defend itself. And that right doesn’t stop at the border of your own nation,” said Adm. Rob Bauer, the chair of NATO’s Military Committee.
In the days leading up to the Starmer-Biden meeting, multiple media reports said the US was preparing to expand the area where Ukraine could use US and other NATO missiles. Some reports said Biden was ready to lift restrictions on the Storm Shadows, while other reports suggested he would also support the use of US weapons in long-range strikes in Russia, including the Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS), US-provided missiles with a range of about 190 miles.
The Guardian reported last week that a decision to lift the restrictions on Ukraine’s use of the weapons had already been made in private. British government sources told the outlet that it would not be made public in the near future, and that an announcement was not expected after the Biden-Starmer meeting.
Previous escalatory steps that the US has taken in the Ukraine proxy war were not announced publicly. For example, when President Biden gave Ukraine the greenlight to use US-provided weapons in Russian border regions, it was first revealed by media reports and later acknowledged by the administration.
I believe the announcement will be made when the first long range missile hits its target. All Putin will do is to pull his assets farther away from frontlines, continue making nuclear threats as usual and up the ante with his propaganda machine. Then continue getting his blood pressure checked while in an eternal state of paranoia.
"Only the paranoid survive."
"If you're paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out there to get you" with "Long-Range Strikes!"
Just to be clear, a country which you say will be attacked with long range missiles is "paranoid?"
A country that invaded another and attacks civilian infrastructure of that country will receive retailiatory strikes.
(There. I fixed it for you.)
You didn't fix anything. You didn't even address what he said. Do you know what "paranoid" means? The constant asking permission to use long range missiles on Russian territory isn't something Putin is imagining.
I did fix the comment. Putin isn’t — and shouldn’t be — “paranoid”.
Sure. OK.
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MK Bhadrakumar
The Russians are so stupid. Why are they getting upset if we support "Long-Range Strikes in Russia?"
Russian Roulette?!…
Good news for London. Your chances for receiving the first Russian nuclear bomb have improved tremendously! Warsaw is so jealous!
How does one know Russia is losing their “SMO”? The tankies continuously shout NUCLEAR WAR!
That would apply if Russia was being driven out of Ukraine. As is, there asses still aren't against the wall. When, and if, that happens, then you can talk shit. At least until you can't.
Wrong —as usual. The Eastern progress has slowed to a crawl. (That appears to be the reason for the Kursk invasion.) Russian troops are now being attrited in Kursk. They walked into the Ukrainian trap.
(You continue to lack in strategic thinking, Wars.)
So, Russia's is being driven out of Ukraine and their ass is against the wall? And the only one lacking in strategical thinking is you. Unless of course you make up silly scenarios that don't exist and think that's sound strategy.
There's that "tankies" word again from stanky.
hey Warsaw is a beautiful city and the polish army is no joke
"No Word on Long-Range Strikes in Russia After Biden-Starmer Meeting" LOL. My friend, the Neocons "never miss an opportunity" to "miss an opportunity" to ESCALATE!
"No Word on Long-Range Strikes in Russia After Biden-Starmer Meeting" LOL. It's like asking a Teen-ager Neocon to stop m@sturbating before he ej@culates.
Crikey!
Бог!!!
No one ever heard of Starmer prior to a few months ago, now somehow he wants to start a nuclear war.
Starmer’s been pretty well-known for years as the leader of the non-Corbyn wing of the Labour Party, which managed to get control of that party after its poor performance in 2019.
Yes … the non-labor Labor …
Was he for starting a nuclear war then too?
Scott Ritter said on Galloway's program yesterday that he understood that the Russians – both via the military contacts with the Pentagon and via the intelligence contacts with the CIA – told the US that they were serious about directly striking the US if the US crosses that "red line." Ritter said the Russian intelligence people were "very explicit about what would happen" if the US did this.
However, "nothing is over until we say it is" (Bluto Blutarsky, "Animal House"). So it's likely the neocons and the UK will keep pushing for it.
Pedophiles love to quote other pedophiles.
William Scott Ritter Jr. (born July 15, 1961) is an American former United States Marine Corps intelligence officer, former United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) weapons inspector, author, and commentator.He is a convicted child sex offender.
" “Every nation that is attacked has the right to defend itself. And that right doesn’t stop at the border of your own nation,” said Adm. Rob Bauer, the chair of NATO’s Military Committee."
Bauer continued, saying, "S**t, the right to defend yourself against or after an attack doesn't even need to apply to a nation that allegedly attacked you. You could have a bunch of rebels in Afghanistan take credit for an attack in, say, the USA, and it's be OF COURSE PERFECTLY FINE to go after Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, lay some ground work for Iran at some point… Pliant media is really helpful too."
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/the-nuclear-armageddon-thank-you-blinken/
"No fighting in the War Room!!!"
Cause and Effect or in the more plebeian Screw Around and Find Out – FAFO!
The principle of causation!
"the post-Cartesian attempt to see everything as governed by simple laws of cause and effect" the operation or relation of a cause and its effect.
"cause and effect play an important part in the universe"
The British are pushing hard to allow use of Storm Shadow munitions to attack into Russia proper. The British, Canada, Sweden, Finland, and the Baltic principalities are in favor. Italy, France, and Spain are opposed to strikes into Russia.
England is now surrounded by a half dozen Russian submarines armed with conventional hypersonic missiles.
Thinking is that the British military manufacturing facilities could be targeted if Britain attacks Russia.
As you wrote: FAFO.
Do you even understand the meaning of critical thinking?
Seriously, you are too one sided and not in a good way.
OK, here is the new Russian nuclear doctrine in short.
Dmitry Medvedev writes:
The event that was expected
The Russian President outlined approaches to the new edition of the Fundamentals of State Policy in the Sphere of Nuclear Deterrence. The main changes are as follows.
1. Aggression against Russia by a state that does not possess nuclear weapons, but with the support or participation of a country with nuclear weapons, will be considered a joint attack. Everyone understands which countries we are talking about.
2. Equivalent nuclear protection will be established for Belarus as our closest ally. To the “delight” of Poland and numerous NATO pygmies.
3. A massive launch and crossing of our border by enemy air and space weapons, including aircraft, missiles and UAVs, under certain conditions may become grounds for the use of nuclear weapons. A reason to think not only for the rotten neo-Nazi regime, but also for all of Russia’s enemies who are pushing the world toward a nuclear catastrophe.
It is clear that each situation that gives grounds to resort to nuclear protection must be assessed in conjunction with other factors, and the decision to use nuclear weapons will be made by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. However, the very change in the regulatory conditions for the use of the nuclear component by our country can cool the ardor of those opponents who have not yet lost their sense of self-preservation. Well, for the thick-headed, only the Roman maxim will remain: caelo tonantem credidimus Jovem Regnare …
Suppose you're a UK senior military staff member or intelligence service head anticipating a meager pension amid Britain's raging inflation, general scarcity, and with personal links to the City of London. In this case, one can appreciate their "anxiety" toward missile escalation against Russia.
It's unknown how Russia would militarily or economically counter the UK's ill will. It may be as simple as destroying London's power grid.
The UK's financial collapse may coincide with the escalation against Russia.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/has-russia-deployed-its-nuclear-subs-to-britain-usa/
Dogs of war bark during pack meeting … Poodle appears to be making the most noise.