The Biden administration has given Ukraine permission to use US-provided weapons to hit targets inside Russian territory, POLITICO reported Thursday, a step that marks a significant escalation of the proxy war.
US officials said Ukraine will be able to use US weapons to shoot down Russian missiles inside Russia that are fired toward Ukraine’s Kharkiv region. They will also be able to hit Russian military units that are just over the border in Russia’s Belgorod Oblast.
The US officials insisted Ukraine would not be able to use US-provided missiles for attacks on civilian infrastructure or for long-range attacks on military targets that are deep inside Russia.
“The president recently directed his team to ensure that Ukraine is able to use US weapons for counter-fire purposes in Kharkiv so Ukraine can hit back at Russian forces hitting them or preparing to hit them,” a US official told POLITICO. The official insisted the US still would not support long-range strikes on Russian territory.
Ukraine needs support from the US for targeting when it fires US-provided missiles, which means the US will now be directly supporting strikes inside Russia. The escalation risks provoking a major response from Russia, as Moscow recently warned the UK that it would target British military sites in Ukraine and “beyond” if British missiles were used in strikes on Russian territory. Over the past year, both US and British missiles have been used to target Crimea.
The news comes a day after Secretary of State Antony Blinken hinted that the US was preparing to change the policy, saying the US will “adapt and adjust” when asked if Urkaine could strike Russian territory with US weapons.
The New York Times previously reported that the restrictions on Ukraine’s use of US weapons were put in place as part of President Biden’s plans to “avoid World War III.” But throughout the war, the US and other NATO countries have taken escalations they previously ruled out due to fear of provoking Russia.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned that any NATO countries that let Ukraine strike Russia with their weapons would face “major consequences.”
Are you effing kidding me?!?!?!!!!!!!
You a-holes want WWIII?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GTF out of here, with this crap!!!!!!!
He okayed bombing tents of refugees. This is not a surprise.
Anyone thinking this is a good idea, seriously?!
The stupid people.
Speaking of good ideas, it might be a good idea to stay away from states with a Southern international border and those next to them. I don't know what, if any, Russian weapons have made it into the US, but I'd rather stay away from areas where they might be used in case Russia gives their own green light.
The West Is Hell-Bent on Provoking Russia Into Hot War
Pepe Escobar • May 30, 2024 https:
"For all their circumlocutions, NATO Secretary Jens Stoltenberg, French President Emmanuel Macron, and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz have effectively greenlighted Kiev using Western weapons for attacks deep inside the Russian Federation. The alleged debate, still ongoing, is just a “smokescreen” for the real objective: a pretext that could lead to WWIII.
//www.unz.com/pescobar/the-west-is-hell-bent-on-provoking-russia-into-hot-war/
The War Is Widening Into Armageddon by Paul Craig Roberts
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/05/30/the-war-is-widening-into-armageddon/
"Every provocation action the West said it would not do it has done. The false denials have kept alive Putin’s hope that the conflict can be restricted to Donbas. But the attack on Russia’s warning system has brought Putin closer to reality. The situation is dire and all the Idiot West does is to provoke it further. It is of the greatest urgency that the Biden Regime stand down and immediately sit down with Putin and resolve the conflict."
THIS ARTICLE HAS SOME GOOD LINKS YOU WON'T FIND ON US MSM.
One more non-existent "red line" that Biden has crossed. Anyone surprised after all the other non-existent "red lines" were crossed over the last two years?
Now we're waiting for the "tactical nukes are allowed" "red line" to be crossed…
Except the Russians plan to get there ahead of the US… Which is what "escalation dominance" is all about.
Ray McGovern keeps saying that he is worried that the Biden administration, rather than losing the Ukrain War in an election year, will resort to tactical nuclear weapons.
Seems unlikely, if for no other reason that the Ukrainians don’t look likely to collapse in the next six months.
Their counter attacks and pushback have already collapsed alomg with their ammo supply. I have a feeling the Rusdians will know how to reply.
They are in the drivers seat. A few far flung terror strikes wont do much to slow the best armed guys on planet.
You are funny! Wait. That wasn't a joke?
nope, you are a joke though.
Your wit is sharp.
I think it's possible that they will fight to the last Ukrainian, because that's what the United States wants them to do. Biden wants to stave off the collapse until after the election, without regard to how many Ukrainians perish on the front lines. But they seem to be holding on by a thread. I recently saw a video of an injured Ukrainian soldier on the front line with his three dead comrades. They had been pulled off the street three days earlier and sent right to the front. The Ukraine military is desperate for men. Very sad for Ukraine, and infuriating when considering that the United States provoked this whole goddamn conflict.
Like they fought to the last Afghan? Just asking because getting people to fight is difficult getting them to fight hard is well neigh impossible.
The Russians have not managed to take even the parts of Ukraine they claim – given how strong the Russian army is you have to concede that the Ukrainians are fighting hard – or that the Russians are much less motivated to win.
The Russians are motivated to take their time and minimize their own losses while maximizing the losses of the Ukrainian military. For the Russians it's not about taking territory. It's about destroying the capability of the Ukrainian military. Demilitarize is the term that Vladimir Putin used. Russia has plenty of time. Why should they hurry?
They need to hurry because the war is costing them dearly – and the idea that they can bleed the Ukrainians dry, while true, is not compatible with them taking no losses.
Look up the number of Russians on disabled benefits it's gone up by about half a million – and that is according to their own figures.
Also they are taking serious losses of materiel they cannot easily replace – A50's and S400's.
If they could end it faster they certainly would – for each month they prolong it the west has more time to expand their production, while the Russians face harder and harder time expanding their production.
NB that is because the Russians were able to expand their production faster than the west going dramatically up in military spending – a trick then cannot easily repeat.
I didn't say no losses. According to the BBC/Mediazone study the Russians have suffered about 55,000 deaths so far. The Ukrainians have undoubtedly suffered many times more deaths and injuries. But if the Russians hadn't been fighting a slow and calculated war they would surely have suffered many more casualties.
As far as the west expanding production, I'll believe it when I see it. I have no confidence in the west being capable of rising to the occasion. The Russians are motivated by self preservation. The west is motivated by the greed of their leaders, and the desire for bread and circuses of their people. And I'm sure that the Chinese have ramped up their military production as they see where things are going. If the Russians falter, which is not likely, then the Chinese will step up and assist them.
The source you mention only includes deaths that they can confirm via internet postings so very likely a gross under reporting.
The notion that many more would have died if they had sped up their movement is not supported by any modern military campaigns.
I.e. if you can move faster and preferably encircle enemy forces, while you do suffer higher casualties for each day fought you usually get to fight for so much shorter time that the total casualties get to be much smaller.
The western production capacity outstrips the Russian by orders of magnitude but as you point out it is driven by profit motives – hence the production only gets to speed up when the governments are willing to make the long term contracts that can justify the investments the private contractors have to make to meet the production goals.
I accept that you want to see it before you believe it.
As for the Chinese actually providing weapons – while I'm sure they would not want the Russians to disintegrate, I'm not sure they want to supply weapons before they have lost all exports to the west.
Their economy is rather dependent on such exports – so maybe Biden will help the Russians by imposing blanket sanctions even without Chinese weapons deliveries to Russia.
You are writing a lot of nonsense. I wonder where are you getting your information from.
My sources are often linked – if there is something you can actually point out I can most often point out my sources for just about everything or the arguments why I believe the stuff I do. All you need to do is to try to engage in the debate.
I didn't say no losses. According to the BBC/Mediazone study the Russians have suffered about 55,000 deaths so far. The Ukrainians have undoubtedly suffered many times more deaths and injuries. But if the Russians hadn't been fighting a slow and calculated war they would surely have suffered many more casualties.
As far as the west expanding production, I'll believe it when I see it. I have no confidence in the west being capable of rising to the occasion. The Russians are motivated by self preservation. The west is motivated by the greed of their leaders, and the desire for bread and circuses of their people. And I'm sure that the Chinese have ramped up their military production as they see where things are going. If the Russians falter, which is not likely, then the Chinese will step up and assist them.
I expect they will try. But I also suspect the Russians will know when it is tried and will defeat the effort.
What a joke….!!!!!! Best thing that could ever happen if they did. Russia is so far ahead in nukes that they can flstten the whole place with unstoppable hypersonics & tacts. Briar rabbit says so!
One can make a conclusion from recent events that Americans are distancing themselves from a possible nuclear war in Europe. They are pushing the responsibility to European NATO countries. Of course they would prefer a conventional war in Europe rather than a nuclear one but unfortunately for them, the logic of escalation is such that the use of tactical nukes is almost unavoidable in case of a big conventional war between NATO and Russia.
I think the Russians won't use tactical nukes first. But they will use their hypersonic missiles and other means to eliminate the tactical nuclear threat from the West. I suspect Russian intelligence will know about the attempt in advance and destroy it in advance – and then take out every western military asset involved, inside and outside Ukraine, with conventional hypersonics
You're as crazy as that NATO Maritime commander. We'll all be dead.
The problem is, in case NATO decides to use their aircrafts, the only efficient way to destroy the airfields is tactical nukes. The conventional warheads can damage them but the damage is repairable; one or two days and the airfield is okay again.
Blockbuster: Russia has moved 11 nuclear submarines into the Atlantic Ocean in Response to US Attacks on Strategic Radars
by INTEL-DROP May 29, 2024 https://www.theinteldrop.org/2024/05/29/blockbuster-russia-has-moved-11-nuclear-submarines-into-the-atlantic-ocean-in-response-to-us-attacks-on-strategic-radars/
For NATO’s Maritime Commander Vice-Admiral Clive Johnstone, Russia’s increased submarine activities raise a big question mark.
“We don’t understand what the strategic and operational objectives are of the Russian State,” he says in the interview with IHS Jane’s, adding: “a lot of what the Russians are doing at the moment we don’t understand, and it is obscure and is shrouded in other activity which makes us nervous, and makes nations nervous."
Wow! thanks Lily. Nothing mysterious about it.
This is going to lead to escalation, certainly, but what Russia should do is simply mine all the approaches to Odessa, heavily. Warn the west that the minefields are active and will constantly be re-laid, should any attempt be made to clear them. Cover the minefields with the Black Sea submarine fleet, something Ukraine has no ability to detect or counter.
The USA (and NATO) has virtually ZERO ability to seriously clear mines; no matter what the navy claims; the last time they tried (Desert Storm, in an attempt to "bluff" Saddam that a marine landing was planned) we nearly lost two very expensive, high-tech warships (an Aegis cruiser and a helicopter carrier).
Second, every rail crossing, highway bridge, and transportation hub from the Polish border to the Dnieper should be targeted, every day, by missiles and drones. Western Ukraine has, to date, largely been exempt from serious Russian attacks; but as they can hit at least five for every one US supplied deep strike weapon, this seems like an obvious move.
Then sit back, and watch the neocon chickenhawks howl with pain.
NOT TO WORRY!!! This is no game changer just more of the same Necon grasping at straws as their hopes of victory die. Using terrorism shows their fecklessness. Perhaps send a few droned into the Rada every few weeks to do minor damage & remind them that the cost of the new provocations vould outweigh their benefit to the green boy.
When will you learn? Putin threatens and then moves on. There won't be a nuclear war.
There will be wider war, and that means an even bigger loss for the neocons. They keep dragging us down, to worse and worse.
Between whom? Russia can’t even defeat Ukraine. Putin won’t threaten NATO conventionally. He threatens nukes but no one is taking him seriously and why should they?
he doesn't want to take ukraine, he has said that multiple times already. he doesn't want to rule the nazis in the west. he only wants to make sure they don't join nato and that they are eliminated as a threat to russia.
He says that NOW because he can’t “take Ukraine”.
Ukraine wasn’t the threat to Russia.
nope, nato always was.
He says that NOW because he can’t “take Ukraine”.
Ukraine wasn’t the threat to Russia.
He’ll have to take more of Ukraine to prevent it from becoming a powerful threat. But he’ll leave part.
Ooops! I didn't read down far enough. But this still applies:
But his goal of taking over the entirety of Europe is still in the works? You can't seem to make up your mind as to whether is Hitler or Saddam.
Ukraine seems to take Russia seriously as they grind down their forces in the six digits and young menflock out of the "Meathrinfer" in droves.
thank you for proving yourself a fool. now enjoy as your folly gets humanity extinct.
But his goal of taking over the entirety of Europe is still in the works? You can't seem to make up your mind as to whether is Hitler or Saddam.
What he WANTS to do is not the same as what he CAN or CAN’T do.
Whether he wants to matters little. Whether he can or can't is all that matters. And if he isn't willing to use nukes, which you say he isn't, then what he wants means absolutely nothing.
So Putin threatens & then moves on. Does this say he forgers the warnings he ihas issued??? Not a safe bet to be sure! Perhape a joke with hypersonic punch line….?????
How stupid would you have to be to be NATO's Maritime Commander ?
This stupid.
Prudent move on the Russians' part. Joe Biden has a solid chance of closing out the final act of the human experiment. Only problem is which scorpions will announce it.
When something nasty happens, they will accuse Russia again of "unprovoked" military action.
a lot of what the Russians are doing at the moment we don’t understand
I believe we could find someone in elementary school to explain it to this guy.
Try Kindergarten after you give them a baseball bat.
USA Attack submarines shadow each Russian submarine.
Meanwhile, the Fake News is obsessed with the Trump Show Trials.
This episode of deep dive might shed some light on activity that indeed should make anyone nervous:
This is just silly. Ukraine has always been able to strike inside Russia; in fact, it was just such cross border strikes into Belgorod, DONE WITH US SUPPLIED EQUIPMENT, including armored vehicles, that may have precipitated the latest Russian attacks into Kharkov and Sumy oblasts.
And, practically, what does it matter? HIMARS, JDAMs, Excalibur shells, and most other US supplied "precision strike munitions" have almost completely been neutralized by Russian EW assets; Ukraine might as well build a great big catapult and throw rocks. Virtually all Ukrainian cross border attacks have been with conventional artillery and multiple rocket launchers (like Vampire) and that's not going to change.
If Ukraine wants to use their limited supply of ATACMs (until those get neutralized too) against scattered tactical targets like individual fire support weapons in Belgorod oblast, instead of against the far more concentrated Russian assets in the Donbas, Zaporizhia, or Kherson, go right ahead; but that seems pretty pointless.
The begging, pleading, and whining of Zelensky, assisted by his neocon chickenhawk warmongering supporters in the west, has one purpose only; to try and provoke a direct Russia-NATO clash. This new "privilege", by itself, means absolutely nothing.
How are the wiser heads to deal with behaviour as destructive to world peace as this .
we might not be able to do anything to deal with it.
Israel can use US weapons on people in tents, Ukraine can use US weapons on people in Russia, whatever could go wrong?
no doubt america is proving that human extinction from nuclear war can only be a good thing. save the universe from such madness.
That's how I have come to view it.
FJB and all of the most evil people surrounding him.
At least Washington will burn before the remainder of the country.
With any luck the NEOCONs and Joey Biden will suffer a horrible radiation death!
I wouldn't miss it. Ain't nothing I left behind in D.C.
Think tank close to Kremlin says Russia should consider a 'demonstrative' nuclear explosion
A senior member of a Russian think tank whose ideas sometimes become government policy has suggested Moscow consider a "demonstrative" nuclear explosion to cow the West into refusing to allow Ukraine to use its arms against targets inside Russia.
The proposal, by Dmitry Suslov, a member of the Moscow-based Council for Foreign and Defence Policy, was issued a day after President Vladimir Putin warned the West that NATO members in Europe were playing with fire by proposing to let Kyiv use Western weapons to strike deep inside Russia, something he said could trigger a global conflict.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/n…
The Disunited States is pursuing the most imbecilic experiment in schoolyard diplomacy to date.
At 80 years of age, I am viewing events with a personal sense of detachment, but I have a son and grandson, a fact that makes me seethe with anger at my government, which provides daily proof that it is populated with imbeciles.
Think of all the other innocent creatures and life outside of humans, too.
if killing it all spares the universe from humanity they too ought to go.
Disagree.
Well all the nuts are out on both sides, provoked by American stupidity. Let's hope the grownups can put a lid on this ****.
There are grown ups? Not here.
sadly there are really no one to stop the nuts, time to enjoy the fireworks and say good riddance to the bad rubbish of humanity.
Warmongers are in charge in many so-called 'democratic' Western countries. Financial and economic problems are piling up, but those dimwit think that a world war would allow them to deflect criticism and blame Russia or China for their own incompetence.
Kakistocracy definition:
"A kakistocracy is a government run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens."
It isn't a coincidence. IMO that's the exact form of government that the oligarchy desires because it is the easiest to control.
That makes the USA a kakistocracy. It is run by the most corrupt government and its voters are no better. The Electoral College and Duopoly Parties have got to go and never come back.
But throughout the war, the US and other NATO countries have taken escalations they previously ruled out due to fear of provoking Russia.
So, keep adding bullets to the chamber.
Biden will keep pushing Russia until they respond with nukes and then he, and his administration, will keep repeating Russia’s attack was “unprovoked” He will respond with nukes and the death and destruction willl be massive.
all the while they provoked the hell out of it to make it happen.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f45e738fd31e72c4697c5b9a832ab425b0cd99ff34e2183bb0fe7ae1a63648c.jpg
You're correct. Now, give me a list of GOP reps and senators who will vote for it. I'll wait…
What is your point? It's not like the democrats want to cut military spending. That billboard, and my tee shirt that says the same thing, are about cutting military spending.
Yes. Like this guy is doing anything to bring it about.
No list then?
The list is irrelevant to the billboard. It's about military spending. Neither party wants to cut military spending.
But the Dems WOULD spend on hunger…
Yes, on top of the spending they want for the military. But the billboard, and my tee shirt, aren't about partisan politics. It's about the fact that our bloated military spending, and a small percentage of that spending, could be used for things like eliminating starvation on our planet. Now, if the democrats came out and said that the 3% should be cut from the military spending and put towards eliminating starvation, then you'd have a good point. But my point was that democrats don't want to cut military spending because, like the republicans, they too are rabid warmongers.
With the thought of jumpstarting WWIII, the blood is already drooling off his fangs; Genocide Joe has got to go…..
What the US calls it matters far less than what Putin said in his speech he'd see it to be. He said that the targeting information is American, the technicians inputing it are American, the men firing the weapons are American, and the decisions are American. Therefore, he understands this to be an American attack on Russia. A Pearl Harbor. An act of war.
So Biden lies? So what?
This can only end in vast escalation killing many innocents caught up in Biden's lies and incompetence.
The crazed pro-Russian commenters here seem a little worked up. Did something really big and disturbing to y'all happen yesterday?
Hahaha.
Nothing unusual happened… They're just ignoring you…!
But you can't, can you?
Your Cantaloupe Capone got his a** handed to him, didn't he? Your Fellow Travelers in the cult are agitated today because of it.
well what is good for the goose is good for the gander, I do hope you enjoy it as biden is treated the same way, particularly with his bribe taking and money laundering in ukraine.
How many congressional investigations have there been and still no evidence has been put forward? Even the investigations of Hunter Biden have only come up with a illegal gun charge. Good luck, son!
Hahaha
Several gun charges, actually. And nine additional indicted counts related to where his money came from and whether taxes were paid on it.
you do realize that those investigations were them covering up for each other, a protection that I see ending soon if trump gets elected again.
First, the GOP isn’t covering for any Dem. MAGA is a cult.
Second, the felon, rapist, con-man is never going to win. Prison is next for him.
Yep. All I'm getting is a "Content unavailable" notice, which means this poster has crossed a few of my red lines.
you mean you are ignoring the provoking of russia into nuclear war. just as putin warned if any sort of existential threat to russia was started.
So Russia facing strikes on what is internationally recognized Russian territory implies this!?
That would imply that you believe these strikes means that the Russians would completely disintegrate and not only lose in Ukraine.
Otherwise why would they risk all out nuclear war – is it that you think they prefer suicide over not being able to rule the annexed territories?
Or to put it an other way, it is not clear from your argumentation why the Russians would risk calculations and arrive at the conclusion that nuclear war was/is the answer.
no, then you misunderstand as they will recognize it as direct NATO interference as those weapons will be run by troops from NATO countries. no doubt escalating the war further.
Well if they can prove that NATO forces are running the weapons then it'll be a NATO attack on Russia.
But why do you think that the change in which areas are targeted means that NATO forces have to be involved?
We have seen the Russians hit at least one Patriot unit and I think more than one HIMARS.
And so far no families in the west have been mourning their dead relatives which were just serving time in their national armies.
The idea that we could have several service men supposedly serving time in NATO forces die and not have families or friends reporting/mourning that fact sems far fetched.
not disintegrate, just treat such as a reason to strike back in kind. you keep repeating the big lie that Russia is weak, they aren’t. same big lie that says the west is strong, they aren’t. west only goes after what they think are soft targets because they think they can handle them, in most cases they find out that they cant.
The comment I was replying to you wrote:
To provoke Russia into nuclear war we would have to threaten their ability to strike back or the very existence of Russia itself – at least that used to be the Russian nuclear policy.
Hence why I ask 'if you think Ukraine allowed conventional weapons use on internationally recognized Russian territory' would lead to Russia disintegrating.
Because it would not deprive the Russians of their ability to strike back on a potential US/NATO attempt at a nuclear decapitation strike, so how else could it threaten the existence of the Russian state?
In other words I'm not repeating the lie that Russia is weak I'm asking you why you are implying that Russia is so weak as to have to use nukes because Ukraine is allowed conventional weapons use on Russian territory!
so you wouldn’t say that direct attacks on their territory wouldn’t be considered a threat to their very existence. particularly given that the expansion of NATO and setting up the Ukraine war itself is a long list of threats against their nation. pretty much the same as the Cuban missile crisis was back during the Kennedy administration, which by the way was actually caused by the US putting nuclear missiles into turkey.
No nor would they themselves – indeed they have not done so for already more than a year, or have you forgotten that they according to their own laws see the oblasts in Ukraine as Russia?
Also the usage of conventional weapons in the border regions have been a fact for years, only those weapons were Ukrainian made.
To put it simply no one in Russia would see the use even of the ‘big’ ATTACMS as a threat to the very existence of Russia – if these were as a preliminary action to a massive invasion then yes – but the is so obviously not the case.
Nor would Ukraine in NATO threaten the very existence of Russia – NATO was not prepared for a war as clearly demonstrated it their complete inability to supply Ukraine with weapons – NATO would never strike first on Russia – there simply was and is no way to prevent Russian retaliation and no reward achievable and sustainable to be achieved from such a strike.
You compare it to the Cuba crisis – that is a fair comparison – had NATO stationed nukes in any of the new NATO countries (or Ukraine) the Russians would have a cause for action – but NATO never has and will not do so – that would make NATO less safe – when Russia moved nukes to Belarus NATO did not respond by moving nukes to the Baltics (Finland or Poland).
No, direct attacks on your territory that you can bring to an instant stop any time you like simply by ceasing your direct attacks on the other party's territory are not a "threat to your very existence."
Or maybe they're concerned that WW3 isn't an impossibility and Trump doesn't have shit to do with their comments.
I don’t buy it.
Why not? It's not like their opinions changed overnight. You've been calling them "tankies" long before Trump was found guilty.
Their agitation was enhanced after the verdict. (That’s what I was pointing toward.)
And I disagreed. I see no difference in the tone of the comments. For some reason you think anyone who doesn't toe the line on Russia being a monster, must be a Trump supporter.
You have a hard time with any nuance but the agitation is there. It’s up a tick from the normal, tankie level. That’s the MAGA effect!
In other words, you've got nothing.
No. You just don’t see it.
Because it isn't there. I even reread the comments and they sound no different than they have from the beginning. Their comments were more about the risks of escalating. And I'd be willing to bet most of them have the same opinion about Trump as you and I.
you mean like biden expanding the war in order to get ww3 going.
Putin started the war. Putin is expanding it.
so putin overthrew ukraine in a color revolution, installing US backed nazis with a bad actor as a face man puppet to them.
If Ukraine begins hitting targets inside of Russia, the Russians will have no choice but to take the entirety of Ukraine.
yep, then they will no doubt end up fighting all of nato thus have to take all of them out as well. this ends real badly with the world covered in mushroom clouds.
Having no choice but to do something is not the same thing as having the ability to do that thing.
After 27 months, the Russian forces have yet to even secure Donetsk. They’re about as likely to take the entirety of Ukraine as they are to take Warsaw, Budapest, or Milan.
SSDD
you do realize that there is a difference between being unable to do something and having the smarts to figure out a strategy that beats them with minimal casualties on your side and maximum casualties on your enemies side. meaning that their strategy is something that you cant or refuse to understand.
Coming up on nearly 2 1/2 years of not even having secured Donetsk yet is not some kind of 6D chess "strategy" move, it's military failure.
nah, its digging in and wearing down your enemies, a strategy that dates back to ww1 or earlier. or are you pretending that they have not worn down the Ukraine forces and their NATO masters.
Yes, digging in and wearing down your enemies is an age-old strategy, going back to WAY before World War 1. It’s the go-to strategy after failure.
not really, unless you admit that both sides failed in ww1, the axis powers only lost because the US entered that war.
then you have very limited strategies and very limited thinking.
You're correct — my thinking about military failure is limited to acknowledging that it's military failure instead of pretending it's military success.
or that the Russians are easily outsmarting you.
FJB
Should Russia give permission to Cuba to strike inside US with Russian weapons…?!
Sure if the US tries to invade Cuba.
would cuba comply as russia is no longer communist.
Should Russia give permission to Cuba to strike inside US with Russian weapons…?!
My husband/partner is from the Basque Country in España but was raised in Cuba and did indeed go through all of the tumult and I wrote his life story: Cuba Libre.
International criminal and professional panhandler Zelensky has come to Singapore to deposit more money into his accounts held in Singapore.
Zelensky has over a Billion US Dollars held in Singapore under his name. These funds were looted from America aid among other Western sources. After taking office Zelensky took 400 Million US Dollars out of aid delivered by America and other Western powers in just one year. America sent NEOCON shills to warn him to take less so it is not as noticeable.
Zelenskiy arrives in Singapore for Shangri-La Dialogue
SINGAPORE(Reuters) -Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelenskiy arrived in Singapore for the Shangri-La Dialogue conference on Saturday, where he planned to meet U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and discuss support for his embattled country in an address to delegates.
The International Institute of Strategic Studies (IISS), which organises the security conference, said Zelenskiy would participate in a discussion session on Sunday entitled "Re-Imagining Solutions for Global Peace and Regional Stability".
Zelenskiy said on Wednesday that Russia is trying to disrupt the Switzerland peace summit, which he hopes will generate support for the withdrawal of Russian troops and the restoration of Ukraine's 1991 borders.
On Thursday, U.S. officials said President Joe Biden had assured Ukraine it could use U.S. weapons to strike targets across the border in Russia that were being used to attack areas around Kharkiv, a city in Ukraine's northeast.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned NATO members against allowing Ukraine to fire their weapons into Russia and on Tuesday once again raised the risk of nuclear war.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/zelenskiy-arrives-singapore-shangri-la-100751878.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=ma
April 2022: USA Secretary Lloyd Austin: "One of the US's goals in Ukraine is to see a weakened Russia…"
July 18, 2023: Russians poor leadership, poorly trained. (NPR, Col. Gary Espinas)
December 15, 2023: Senate Republican Mitch Mc Connell: declare that supporting a proxy war in Ukraine is a very good and cheap investment since other soldiers, not Americans, are dying.
August 31, 2023: Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT): US was getting it "money's worth" in Ukraine because Russis is taking losses and no Americans are dying.
Since April 2024: USA tax payers gave Ukraine $175 billion dollars.
Where do you get those figures from???
Since January 2022 the US has donated:
43.08 billion Euro in military hardware
2.53 billion Euro in humanitarian support
21.47 billion Euro in financial support
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/
A Euro is about 1.1 dollar
Even if you add those figures together you do not get $175 billion – and given that the 43 billion is actually invested in replacement arms produced in the US – to replace mostly systems that were obsolescent it is not by any means a fair way to portray this burden on the US taxpayer.
I see very little to save of the human experiment. If the people were to rise up and rid themselves of their "leadership", I might feel differently. But how do we get them to look up from their cel phones?
It's drooling, ignorant, screaming clods all the way down.
Taking the war to Russian Territory will lead to WWIII. Biden is even worse than Bush, Obama and Trump. If Trump is re-elected, he'll let the war in Ukraine go on since Mike Johnson wants him to and he will become worse than he was when he was POTUS and worse than Biden is now, he'll also go to war with Mexico.
The war has been taking place on Russia territory since very early on. And that’s not counting either the two Donbas regions or the two other regions Putin claimes to have annexed.