Russia has warned the UK that it could target British military installations and equipment in “Ukraine and beyond” if Ukrainian forces use British-provided weapons to strike Russian territory.
Russia made the warning directly to the British ambassador in Moscow, who was summonsed in response to UK Foreign Secretary David Cameron saying Ukraine has the “right” to use British weapons in attacks on Russia.
“Any British military facilities and equipment on the territory of Ukraine and beyond could be a response to Ukrainian strikes with the use of British weapons on the territory of Russia,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.
“The ambassador was called upon to reflect on the inevitable catastrophic consequences of such hostile steps by London and to immediately refute the belligerent provocative statements of the head of the Foreign Office in the most decisive and unequivocal way,” the ministry said.
London has been providing Ukraine with Storm Shadow missiles, which have a range of up to 155 miles. Earlier this year, the UK confirmed it had a “small number” of troops inside Ukraine, and a German military leak revealed British troops “on the ground” in Ukraine are helping Ukrainian forces fire the Storm Shadow missiles.
The NATO missile supply and targeting support for Ukraine has always risked a major escalation of the war. But as the conflict has dragged on, the US, Britain, and other NATO countries have increased their involvement in the war despite the risk of provoking a direct confrontation between the Western alliance and Russia, which could quickly turn nuclear.
Fee-fi-fo-fum; I smell the blood of an Englishman
Grind his bones be he alive or dead
Make bone flour into bread
or soup
Turn the cowardly bastard into poop
The British have been fucking the world for a long time. Their destruction in WW2 and the loss of their Empire was only Karma. Their successor America is about to achieve the same fate. Long live BRICs+.
BRICS is toothless. There will be no “de-dollarization”. It’s just a pipe dream.
The British are a dense bunch, this is the only language they understand.
Not dense far from it , the British populations down fall is it is DOCILE & COMPLIANT if moaning was a olympic sport Britain would win gold every time .
Without America / NATO Britain is IRRELEVANT in to day`s world economically and militarily , any conflict with Russia the British military will be wiped out , but the really scary thing is IDIOTS like Cameron are putting the entire country and it`s population at risk of being turned to ash .
There have been several rumors that Ukraine intends to strike Russia today (inauguration day) to humiliate Putin.
Russia is taking these rumors very seriously.
The UK prides itself on attacking far behind enemy lines. If their long range missiles are intentionally used to strike Russia, as defined by its 2021 borders, this warning is almost certainly not an empty threat.
The funny thing is the British think Churchill was a hero, while in fact he was 100% responsible for the destruction of their empire. I would go a bit further, he might have also planted a seed in their heads. The seed to do exactly all they can to end their nation first when the nukes start falling.
When the French and British stab the Bear, they will reap the nuclear whirlwind!
Mutually Assured Destruction precludes Putin from using nukes. The posturing little man knows this and rattles his little sword to get the ignorant to react. How’s it feel to react?
At least, Russia has no reason to use nukes any soon. A conventional war between NATO and Russia would be not so catastrophic. In a way it could be even beneficial for Russia, China and the rest of BRICS.
” A conventional war between NATO and Russia would be not so catastrophic” It would be for Russia. Based on Russia performance in Ukraine, it would not end well for Russia. Think about it, A small country with a small air force and an even smaller navy has held Russia to a draw for 2 plus years.
So, based on US performance in Afghanistan where after 20 years of war, US army was defeated and ran away, we may say that Afghan army is definitely stronger than American?
First, the Russian have lost at least 25 times more troops in 2 years in Ukraine than the US lost in 20 years in Afghanistan. Second the Soviets lost 8 times as many troops in 9 years in Afghanistan as use US lost in 20 years. Third, unlike the USSR the US is still a nation after that war.
According to British “calculations” for one Ukrainian killed soldier there 5 killed Russians. According to American independent military experts (Douglas Macgregor, Scott Ritter) for one Russian killed soldier there about ten killed Ukrainians. So, your statistic is probably nearer to British one than to the reality.
The Russians deaths are a realistic number and most likely on the low side. The reality is that a lot Russians have died.
That 10 to 1 figure according to so called experts is absurd. If true the war would have been over with a year ago.
Of course Russia will not report the real number of deaths, because Putin would have a hard time explaining to the Russian people exactly why so many troops have died.
You are free to believe in any nonsense.
And you are free to believe the Russian “useful idiot” MacGregor and the convicted ephebophile Ritter. (VERY credible sources)
And you are free to generate all nonsense you want. If you are dumb enough to believe Russia has a 10 to 1 kill ratio and still have failed to knock out Ukraine after two plus years, you will believe anything.
Douglas Macgregor, February 27, 2022: “The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over.”
Douglass Macgregor, March 3, 2022: “I would say another 10 days this should be completely over.”
Douglas Macgregor, July 8, 2002: “The war, with the exception of Kharkiv and Odessa, as far as the Russians are concerned is largely over.”
In April 2022 Ukrainian army was million. After that Ukraine had about ten waves of mobilization – at least, one million more and Ukrainian army has no rotation. Russian army, together with Donbass republics army, in April 2022 was 200K. Russia had only one partial mobilization 300K in autumn 2022 and about 400K volunteers, many of whom served their 4 month contract and demobilized. Now Russian army is about 700K and Ukrainian army is about 500K and desperately hunting men for feeding them into the meatgrinder. According to many different independent experts, not just Macgregor, Ukraine lost killed near 600K, Russia lost killed near 60K.
There are also a lot of killed foreign mercenaries on Ukrainian side.
” Russia lost killed near 60K” You need to make up your mind. First you claim the estimates of 50,000 dead Russians in my post is wrong. That is where the 25 to 1 ratio come from. Then you state that Russia lost 60,000. Which one of your comments do you now support?
“February 27, 2022”
Sounds like humor rather than an attempt to assess a battlefield condition, given that it was only three days into the conflict.
My impression of MacGregor is that he isn’t dumb, when compared to, say, our current JCS.
The July 8 quote sounds a bit more believable.
yes
1. No, there are some other reasons. As Assange said, for US MIC the outcome of the war is not so important as the duration of the war. Longer it lasts, the better.
2. Russians never mobilized enough of the troops for conquering Ukraine because Putin is not against the time. He used this war to make Russian army more modern and better fit for a big war with NATO. Also there were some other reason not to hurry.
Russia did not go about their war in a very smart manner… neither did we. I should have made my sarcasm more obvious
( I hope i didnt come off as rude)
Of course there were some mistakes on both sides. However the Russian intervention itself was the only way to stop the ethnic cleansing campaign which started February 2022 in Donbass. Also it stopped American military encroachment into Ukraine, created a land bridge between Crimea and Russian mainland, and forced Kiev regime to negotiations which were quite successful until Boris Johnson’s visit to Kiev. All that was achieved in first month.
What a great plan. Get ten thousands of troops killed to make the army more modern and better. That is stupidest way to make an army better, get troops killed in large numbers.
Actually, it was a matter of the will of the Afghan people (the US wasn’t fighting the Afghan army). And that is the point you Russophiles can’t get through your head: the will of the Ukrainian people is what will defeat Russia. (It’s happened many times in history but you dupes fail to recognize it.)
And Afghanistan was on the other side of the world and nary a threat to the US. You ignore that Ukraine is located on Russia’s underbelly and Russia’s motivation for not allowing NATO to encroach on their border.
With around $170 billion in aid from the US alone. Russia’s defense budget for 2022 was $75 billion and $84 billion for 2023. Can you do math Timmy?
Russia is increasing their budget and STILL can’t beat the Ukes!
It is not about beating Ukes, it is about beating The West.
Which they’re not accomplishing either.
I see you didn’t do the math. The US ALONE poured more money into Ukraine than what Russia spent on their defense. And the Ukes STILL couldn’t drive them off their land.
Moving the goalposts again I see! YOU’RE the one who usually touts the invincibility of the Russians. But you do you, Wars!
For some reason I missed this 3 days ago. So, tell me, how did I move the goalposts? And I haven’t touted Russia’s invincibility one fucking time. Zero. Nada. Stop confusing me with others you are having conversations with. It’s not hard to look at the reality of the situation and realize that unless the US/NATO get directly involved Ukraine will not drive Russia from their land. I can’t help if you don’t understand that Russia has three times the population and a much larger military. And whether you, or I, believe it or not, they feel Ukraine being a tool of the US/NATO is a threat to their existence.
” couldn’t drive them off their land”
Well I am glad to see you admit that Ukraine is defending their land as opposed to some people who think that it is Russia land.
Your are correct that Ukraine has not been successful in driving the aggressor out of the their land. But with US help they have been successful in killing a large number of Russians. Or as you would like to call it, they have been successful in their “genocide” of Russians.
God you’re a moron. Russia and Ukraine are fighting a war with real militaries. Killing each others soldiers isn’t genocide. Israel is killing anything that moves with impunity and using starvation as a weapon. That’s genocide A big difference but you’re just too fucking stupid to grasp that.
Once again you can’t make a comment without using the “f” word. Again showing your lack of education.
Sure, I can make a comment without using the “f” word. I just enjoy pissing you off. Now, go fuck yourself genocide cheerleader.
And your point? US aid has certainly been the major reason Russia has failed to take over Ukraine.
“Think about it, A small country with a small air force and an even smaller navy has held Russia to a draw for 2 plus years.”
This is what you said. That is what I replied to. But I forgot how fucking stupid you are so I guess I should have been more explicit about what I was talking about.
Tis, just like a foul mouth third grader. Swearing when you are upset. But that what classes people do. Do you talk like that around your wife and children when you get mad?
I don’t think third graders drop the F bomb, but I do know third graders don’t use sentences like this, “But that what classes people do”. They aren’t that fucking stupid. How about you try responding to my comment instead of playing the morality game. Tell me how Ukraine did those things all on their own.
One cannot read this and not understand that is is INSANE
On the part of both sides. Well, all three (four?) sides.
So Russia’s efforts to prevent the British from escalating the conflict are “insane”?
Russia doesn’t need nukes to take out Britain. Hypersonic Kinzhals and Zircons with conventional warheads could take out British military HQ and Number 10 Downing Street in a half hour and nothing Britain can do would stop it. The entire British navy and air force could also be taken out in a similar time frame (not at the same time – even the Russians would have to reload, most likely.)
we have seen Ukraine shoot down Zircons and Kinžals with Patriot and IRIS-T batteries, so that would not happen 🙂
You really believe that? Naive.
you really don’t? Naïve
in what world did it not happen? There are pictures and videos!
Russia will not attack British installations outside of Ukraine. Even Putin is not that stupid.
You are 100% wrong.
Russia will attack them. The Kremlin isn’t bluffing. Why can’t you understand that?
Because brainwashed
Why don’t you understand that attacking British installations outside of Ukraine will invoke Article 5 of NATO? Do you think that Putin that stupid to tangle with NATO?
that’d be rude
The UK thinks that the Kremlin is bluffing (it isn’t) & that if UK interests were attacked, the West would help them (they won’t).
Very stupid people in London these days, ‘leading’ the UK to disaster.
If Russia attacks the UK, the US will most certainly come to the aid of the UK.
Naive.
If it ever got to that, this is how it would unfold.
Russia would use the UK as an example – it would use its hypersonic weapons to demonstrate what it can do. Pipsqueak UK wouldn’t have a chance, and would be annihilated.
Just before the attack or at the same time, Moscow would contact DC with a message – ‘if you don’t get involved, we will leave you alone. However if you defend the UK, we will annihilate the US.’
DC knows full well that Russia can destroy the US. Russia has won the arms race and possesses weapons that no western nation has, in particular manouverable hypersonic weapons. It also possesses the most advanced AD systems in the world.
So the real question facing DC (and all other western capitals) would be very simple : is defending the UK worth America being annihilated? Because that’s what will happen.
The answer? Hell, no. Not just that – the evil scum in DC will see UK’s destruction as an opportunity to consolidate DC’s power over Europe.
The US will let the UK drown, just as they’re already undermining Germany’s position in Europe (eg by destroying the Nordstream pipelines). Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn’t understand. geopolitical realities.
“Naive.”
Thanks for the helpful warning ahead of the content.
Your lack of military knowledge is amazing. Did you forget about the British nuclear subs? Do you think they would just float around the Atlantic without firing? And in you pipe dream did you account for the fact that in a nuclear war, there are no winners? Russia will be totally destroyed in such a war. Why would Russia risk that? Unless Putin is mentally ill, that is not going to happen.
The Kremlin IS bluffing.
NATO WILL help.
Very stupid people believe Putin.
NATO is an empty shell. Militarily it has already been humiliated in Ukraine.
NATO has no industrial base capable of sustaining a real war, nor does it have enough soldiers. As for NATO’s commanders? They’re the idiots who have been making the big decisions in Ukraine – morons.
As for the Kremlin, don’t mistake Russian patience for weakness. They aren’t bluffing, much as they weren’t bluffing vis-a-vis Ukraine.
Poke the Bear enough and it will tear you apart. That’s what is coming the way of pipsqueak UK, if London continues on its current trajectory. And sorry, but no one will help the UK if Russia attacks it, and certainly not the US.
You keep reading the Kremlin newspapers, son!
Cheap shot, but that’s all you have.
Reality? I just know what I’m talking about – and you don’t.
BTW it’s not Russians saying that NATO is an empty shell, it’s western observers. Start your education here :
https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine
https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/return-industrial-warfare
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/alarm-nato-weak-military-empty-arsenals-europe-a72b23f4
https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/geopolitics-and-policy/13298-red-alert-concerns-grow-over-europe-s-dramatic-military-weakness
Well, as I usually tell the Putin-lovers: we will see.
Just curious, how would Russia deal with the 3200 fighters jets that NATO would toss at them?
Wash. and London need to start WWIII to get people’s minds off the Gaza genocide and Israel’s ongoing strategy to trash the populations they don’t consider valid and build their temple over the Dome of the Rock. If you examine closely, a lot of what’s going on ties together.
The UK is playing with fire!
The Russians should target British forces in Ukraine now. Same goes for all the other officially established placements of other members of NATO. They were warned some time ago.
NATO has for all practical purposes declared war on Russia. Enough of this bullshit.
WWIII did not happen under Reagan and so many people at that time protested nuclear weapons. Now, the world is moving closer and closer to WWIII with the wars in Ukraine and Gaza.
People protesting the war and genocide in Gaza should also protest the war in Ukraine and blame it on Biden.