Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said Thursday that Russia’s production of artillery shells has increased by nearly 2.5 times over the past year as Moscow is significantly out-producing the West.
Shoigu also said that Russia was producing components for artillery at a rate of 22 times what it could make last year. “Speaking about manufacturing of artillery munitions, the volume of production of components to such ammunition was increased by almost 22 times,” he said.
Shoigu’s comments came after CNN reported that Russia was producing nearly three times as many artillery shells than the US and Europe combined. The report, based on a NATO assessment, said Russia has the capacity to produce 3 million shells per year while the US and Europe can make 1.2 million.
It’s been clear for a while that NATO could not keep up with the production needed to fuel the proxy war in Ukraine. NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said last year that Ukraine was using artillery ammunition at a much faster rate than what the entire alliance could produce.
“The current rate of Ukraine’s ammunition expenditure is many times higher than our current rate of production, and this puts our defense industries under strain,” Stoltenberg said in February 2023.
Due to its shortage of conventional 155mm artillery ammunition, the US has been arming Ukraine with artillery shells packed with cluster bombs, which are notorious for killing and maiming civilians and are banned by over 100 countries. The US announced a new $300 million arms package that included more cluster bombs. The US supplied Ukraine with the package despite the lack of new funding for the war and claimed it was paid for with money saved in the US Army budget.
It was fairly obvious, from early in the war, that this would be the the developing reality. There was a looong period of stubborn (and silly) denial in the West, but even the slowest learners among the denialists must be figuring it out by now.
I haven’t seen a “Russia running out of ______” story in quite some time.
Then you haven’t looked. A couple of highlights from the last 30 days:
“Russian rail maintenance companies are struggling to acquire enough spare parts to service locomotives. They also face a shortage of highly educated staff. As a result, Russian Railways (RZD) has had to suspend or delay almost 50,000 trains throughout 2023.” RailFreight, 03/19/24
“Russia on Tuesday ordered a six-month ban on gasoline exports from March 1 to keep prices stable amid rising demand from consumers and farmers and to allow for maintenance of refineries in the world’s second largest oil exporter. The ban, first reported by Russia’s RBC, was confirmed by a spokeswoman for Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak, President Vladimir Putin’s point man for Russia’s vast energy sector.” —-
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Hah; that’s reaching for straws
NJ TRANSIT, second largest mass transit agency in the USA, had to “cancel or delay” thousands of trains a couple years ago for precisely those reasons, including “shortage of trained staff”, see https://wfuv.org/content/nj-transit-problems-caused-lack-available-engineers
and that’s one small state that isn’t fighting a war (except with itself). Combine all US freight and pax railway cancellations and delays through an entire year and I doubt it’s much, if any, less than Russia’s.
Prohibiting gas exports had nothing to do with “shortages”; simply the desire to meet internal demand ahead of foreign demand. And note that internal demand is INCREASING, which is hardly the sign of a shrinking economy.
Russia’s not running perfectly; but they are doing far, far better than the knuckleheads in charge of NATO and the US “predicted”.
Sure, if by “reaching for straws” you mean “Googling the word ‘shortage’ and the word ‘Russia’ and grabbing a couple of results from the first page of results to establish that there are still western claims of Russian shortages.”
I’m not trying to prove that there ARE shortages of this or that in Russia — just contesting the notion that the western MSM isn’t still pushing that particular narrative. They clearly are.
“Rail delays” are not indicative of “shortages”; neither is a temporary diversion of refined gasoline from export to internal markets. Show that Russia’s overall internal rail capacity has dropped, and you would have a point. Or that refined gasoline capacity has shrunk, and again, that would support your point. But given that Russia is vastly expanding production of munitions, tanks, missiles, and other war material, some disruption in the system is to be expected. “Disruptions” are not the same as “running out”. The two examples you used, for “Russia is suffering shortages of…” are weak. Really weak.
“50,000 trains delayed or cancelled since 2022” for a country the size of Russia, as dependent as it is on an internal rail network, is a drop in the bucket of total trains operated. It MIGHT show poor management, which is something else.
The article specifically attributes the rail delays to shortages of both replacement parts and personnel.
“But given that Russia is vastly expanding production of munitions, tanks, missiles, and other war material”
That’s not a given. It’s a claim. There’s a difference.
Yes, NJTRANSIT attributed their delays to the same things…and they’re not fighting a war. Has Russia’s internal rail capacity decreased, at all? Or has it actually increased? You don;t know; so your citation means absolutely nothing.
Re your other claim, by that measure, everything posted on this site is “a claim”, not a “given”. However, when Russia says it, the West says it, Ukraine says it, and independent observers say it, it’s likely a “given”. EVERY SINGLE SOURCE states that Russia has expanded the size of their military and the firepower available. MORE shells, MORE tubes, MORE bombs, MORE drones, are being used on the front, but somehow in your mind that’s just a “claim”???
I have tried to reason with you in the past, but clearly you have jumped the shark. Newsflash; in the last 3 months, Russia took Avdiivka, the most heavily fortified site on the front, using massive firepower which the Ukrainians could not counter. They have since breached the “fortified positions to the west” to which the Ukrainians were “withdrawing to”, using massive firepower which the Ukrainians could not counter. They smashed the Ukrainian/faux proxy assault into Belgorod, using massive firepower that the Ukrainians could not counter. The Ukrainians are now falling back, again, from the “first line of defense” west of Avdiivka, to the “second line of defense”, which presumably the Russians will also breach using massive firepower the Ukrainians cannot counter.
But in “Tommy Land”, all this firepower is just a claim, not a given. I don’t get it. And you have exactly ZERO sources to back up your positions. Your status as a “monitor” of this site should really be reviewed by the site operators.
“Has Russia’s internal rail capacity decreased, at all? Or has it actually increased? You don;t know; so your citation means absolutely nothing.”
My citation means exactly what it was intended to mean: That, contra the other commenter’s claim, there are in fact still stories circulating about “Russian shortages.” That’s just a fact.
No; your citation was meant to show that Russia is suffering “shortages”; but the citation doesn’t prove that. D- for “research”.
No, my citation was manifestly NOT meant to show that Russia is suffering “shortages.” It was meant to demonstrate that the narrative that Russia is suffering “shortages” is still being pushed, in reply to someone saying he hadn’t seen that narrative in action recently.
And it seems like it’s virtually impossible to honestly misread it in the way you’re claiming to have misread it.
You tried to make a point and failed. Sorry, but there it is. You used citations without apparently reading them as examples of something they are not.
They are examples of stories claiming “shortages” in Russia.
That’s a fact.
You don’t have to like the fact that it’s a fact, although it’s odd you’d dislike a fact that points out the existence of a prevailing narrative. It’s a fact whether you dislike it or not.
They most certainly are NOT that, and THAT’s a fact.
Odd that you can apparently write yet clearly can’t read. Very strange.
Now you’re just being silly. Not very “moderative” of you. Maybe time to quit?
Commenting isn’t moderating.
And noting that you either have a severe reading comprehension deficit or are lying is commenting. It doesn’t violate the site’s guidelines to have a severe reading comprehension deficit or to lie, so moderating isn’t part of the equation.
Oh my, you just keep on prattling. Why don’t you go yell at little kids to get off your lawn? They may find you credible. I don’t. You are an irascible old man with limited understanding.
Babble babble babble
Give it up; you were wrong.
Reality disagrees with you. If you have a problem with that, feel free to take it up with reality.
You’re the one living in tommy land. Jordan is Palestine??? Really? Russia isn’t increasing military production?? really? Russia will be lucky to hold on to Donetsk?? Really?? There’s no such thing as SEAD?? Really?? The Gray Zone equals the First Line of Defense?? Really?? You have been consistently wrong about, well everything. Yet you talk about “reality”. You are a Clown.
“Jordan is Palestine?”
There are many definitions of “Palestine,” but from Roman times until after World War One, the accepted definition of Palestine included most of what was then broken out as “Transjordan” to give to the Hashemites as consolation for losing Mecca to the Saudi monarchy, eventually becoming “Jordan.”
“Russia isn’t increasing military production?”
I don’t believe I’ve ever said that. I have said that I don’t believe any regime’s claims about military production just because those regimes make those claims.
“Russia will be lucky to hold on to Donetsk?”
I’ve actually predicted exactly the opposite — that if the Russians can ever secure Donetsk in the first place, and I think they eventually will, Ukraine won’t be getting it back.
“There’s no such thing as SEAD?”
In what universe do you imagine I’ve ever said any such thing. SEAD used to be part of my job.
“The Gray Zone equals the First Line of Defense?”
Since I have no idea what the hell that even means, I have to doubt that I said it.
Oh please. reaching for straws. You say things you can’t defend then make shit up. “Moderator” my ass.
You seem to have not grasped what a “moderator” is here.
A “moderator” is a janitor who cleans up stuff that violates the site’s guidelines.
Being a “moderator” has about as much to do with my comments as it does with the price of tea in China.
Russia on Tuesday ordered a six-month ban on gasoline exports from March 1 to keep prices stable amid rising demand from consumers
Like a good government ought to do. Take care of it’s own!
Russia is one of the world’s largest petroleum producers and petroleum exports are a major driver of its economy.
There’s a word for “we can’t produce enough of our biggest export good to continue exports AND meet our domestic needs.”
That word is “shortage.”
Of course, it’s not necessarily TRUE that Russia can’t, for whatever reason, maintain a high enough level of production to do both. It could just be a financial (i.e. drive up prices) or political (i.e. scare dependent customers into taking their side) move.
It could just be a financial (i.e. drive up prices)
Prices for who, hmmm?.. Not the Russians.
Sounds like a win win for Putin.
It sounds like a measure being taken for a particular reason or purpose. Whether it’s a “win” for anyone, or “a desperate measure” for someone, or something in between is a different question entirely.
No desperate measures for us though. Gotta keep that LNG going to the EU since we saved them from Russia.
Who’s “us?”
Consumers. Even your wee scooter needs gas.
My scooter may need gas (I was disappointed to find I’m only getting 80 miles per gallon or so vs. the 100 mpg that’s usually cited), but I’m not one of the people who would be taking measures of any kind over its production and distribution. I don’t own any oil companies, tankers, or pipelines.
That’s 100 mpg for the skinny Chinaman that built it.
You got to make an adjustment for big fat Americans.
Oil yes, gasoline no. Singapore exports the most gas in the world.
https://www.indexmundi.com/energy/?product=gasoline&graph=exports&display=rank
“Gasoline” is not one of their “biggest export goods”; crude oil and natural gas are.
Citation, from Reuters:
“Russia in 2023 produced 43.9 million tons of gasoline and exported about 5.76 million tons, or around 13% of its production. The biggest importers of Russian gasoline are mainly African counties, including Nigeria, Libya, Tunisia and also United Arab Emirates”
Note that it sends refined products to countries with some of the world’s largest internal petroleum deposits; they have the crude, but lack refining facilities.
From what I have seen, crude petroleum continues to flow unhindered. Any legitimate stats that prove otherwise?
I don’t often give you thumbs-down, Mr. Knapp, but you get one for this unusually sloppy effort.
Russia has the world’s second-largest rail network and it has suffered from underinvestment for a very long time. No doubt the reality of wartime production and transport creates additional stressors. Duh. And we can have no idea what the impact of some (any) number of delayed or suspended trains might be unless we know how many ton-kilometers of freight were affected by those delays or suspensions and what that amounts to as a percentage of the billions of ton-kilometers of freight that are carried annually. Another duh. You’re not stupid. You know this.
Also, try not to use as citations the first few sentences of stories from paywalled sites where we (presumably including you) can’t read any further and can’t know what the stories actually convey. Your 8th grade English teacher would give you an F for that and you would deserve it.
I have no idea whether a pause in export of a refined petroleum product is related to anything other than what the Russian government cited as the reason and neither do you. Certainly, neither of us has even a hint that the fact of that pause somehow hints at MIC problems in production or logistics.
Those aren’t highlights, they’re lame-ass attempts to make points that you stubbornly insist are indicators of some construct that you stubbornly insist, mostly without persuasive evidence, is reality.
You said you hadn’t seen stories claiming shortages.
All I did was point out that those stories are still being published.
I didn’t comment as to whether I believe the stories are accurate.
The petroleum stories seem to be believed where it counts, however — by those who might act on them. Unless you believe the sudden wave of Ukrainian attacks on refineries was just a coincidence.
No I don’t need to rely on propaganda from mainstream news.
I speak with middle class Russian families weekly by VOIP and hear how their children are being educated. Math and science are an emphasis and after school sports are common.
Then I speak with teachers here in the US and hear how they are required to implement a left wing woke agenda. After school LGBTQ clubs are pushed and sports are not an emphasis.
Facts trump mainstream news which is mostly propaganda.
Have you seen any new TV or online streaming programs that don’t promote LGBTQIA2S+ lately? I personally don’t have a problem with these folks at all but it seems they are becoming the majority right now especially in teenage and young adults. It could be I’m getting much older and out of touch though, so forgive me.
My very good friend in a middle school teacher who tells me what is being taught and what is being pushed politically on middle school students.
I have no problem with these LGBTQ people as long as they adhere to the old principle of keeping it between consenting adults. Advertising and pushing middle school kids into an alternative life style is just wrong!
“ I have no problem with these LGBTQ people…”
Yeah, you do.
I have no problem with these LGBTQ people as long as they adhere to the old principle of keeping it between consenting adults. Advertising and pushing middle school kids into an alternative life style is just wrong!
If there weren’t so many intolerant pricks like yourself, the “advertising” wouldn’t be necessary. Teaching and promoting tolerance seem to be your big problem.
A jackass as always in your comments!
Better than being an intolerant prick.
I have to call you a retard when your moronic comments are posted!
Call me what you want. At least I have tolerance of people that might be different than your average red neck asshole. I even have tolerance for those red neck assholes.
You’re out of touch. Live with it, Trumper.
Sure you did, son.
We need a Radio Free America!
After school LGBTQ clubs are pushed and sports are not an emphasis.
Where in the fuck do you live?
Unfortunately in California due to of military orders to Miramar, Fighter Town USA!
Sorry to burst your bubble from 2 days ago: https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2024/03/20/might-russia-run-out-of-big-guns
Damn! I was wrong again.
Well, it’s another “might” story; and leaves some stuff out. “Outdoor storage” is not the greatest, but it doesn’t mean the tubes can’t be readily refurbished and put back into use. Back in the 1980s, when I used to do USAR drills at Tobyhanna Army Depot, there was an entire field, in the outdoors, of 8-inch gun tubes for M203 howitzers; all sitting out in the rain and snow; periodically, some of them would be pulled out, sent to the warehouse for refurbishing, and issued out to the field.
When the Iowas were returned to service in the 1980s, there was a concern about the availability of 16-inch gun liners, which obviously were no longer in production; but then an entire field of them was uncovered in some depot somewhere, where they had lain outdoors since the 1940s. Again, Problem Solved.
Agreed
“CNN recently reported that Russia can produce three times as many artillery shells than the US and Europe combined”
All those shells, and still, the second most inept and incompetent criminal army in the world cannot even take a tiny country with 300 Spartans.
Nazi Putin is such an embarrassment.
FJB
Imagine that Russia has 10 factories producing artillery shells at many time the US production. They have advanced hypersonic missiles that deliver precise targeting and advanced Surface to Air Missile systems, SAMs.
Those of us that deal in reality and truth could have told you these facts a year ago. Only American state controlled propaganda casts Russia as a backward peasant economy. Russophobia and racism are dumbing down America.
Here is another fact, boys and girls. Elementary, middle, and high schools in Russia teach math, science, reading, and writing NOT woke plus LGBTQ programs that confuse gender.
America is competing with a country of people who are more adept at math and science than most countries in the world.
If America keeps it’s head in the woke sand long enough it will truly become a backwards intellectual wasteland.
Dude! Have you spoken with anyone out there? It is already a “backwards intellectual wasteland!” Not only that, ALL the people around me are actual zombies! I only find people like you online.
You don’t know what you don’t know! I have traveled to Moscow, St Petersburg, and Vladivostok hundreds of time in my career. I also speak with my colleges and friends in Russia weekly.
Between hypersonic missiles, advanced fighter jets, and leading SAM systems the ability of Russian people to research and create leading edge technology is amazing!
p.s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=670aplc_eBk&t=901s
You really are an intolerant prick.
Again, what is your point?
Your low IQ and lack of critical thinking is showing. What did you not complete middle school before you dropped out!
I call you an intolerant prick and you show me these irrelevant videos? And then you accuse me of being stupid? Tell me how they are relevant to me calling you an intolerant prick or shut your red neck ass up.
The horses ass posts again!
I will admit to your brilliance if you can explain to me what relevance those videos had to me calling you an intolerant prick. Or didn’t you understand why I called you an intolerant prick? You should have, you are a critical thinker after all.
Just like when a horses ass issues hot gas your pea deranged brain issues forth with odious vial stench. A true low IQ knuckle draggier.
So, you have no answer as to why you posted those irrelevant videos. Gotcha, “critical thinker”. And speaking of low IQ’s, “draggier” isn’t a word.
Try again moron. You really are sub-human in IQ!
drag·gy
/ˈdraɡē/
adjective
informal
comparative adjective: draggier
dreary and lacking liveliness.
“a long, draggy, boring Friday afternoon”
Nice try “critical thinker”. You were attempting to call me a “knuckle dragger”, and not a “knuckle draggy”. So, a comparative adjective to dragger is draggier? Which makes me a “knuckle dreary and liveliness“? And I was questioning your intelligence? How dare me. And still no answer as to why you posted those irrelevant videos.
Fuck off and Goodbye. You are dead to me!
Fuck you too. And goodbye shouldn’t be capitalized.
Your point?
Truth hurts doesn’t it?
Apparently it hurts some people. You can tell by the way they avoid it like the plague, while posturing as “critical thinkers.”
What truth? That you’re an intolerant prick?
But intolerance is a human nature and perfectly normal.
So is being an asshole. What’s your point?
That calling someone an intolerant prick doesn’t necessarily isolate them nor are they considered as a statistical outlier.
Which is irrelevant.
It is if you are trying to single someone out.
What???
You think if you keep writing “woke” something will happen?
Face it: Russia I quickly becoming a Third World country. See if they can math their way out of that.
Russia was already a “Third World” country.
“Third World” means “aligned with neither the United States nor the Soviet Union.”
Not true. In Sociology it means the poorest countries, exploited for their natural resources (including people).
Yes, but sock puppets don’t care about third world countries improving. So their views matters not.
And certainly no one care what a right-wing, MAGA d-bag has to say either.
What’s a d-bag?
Wasn’t the Soviet Union considered ‘Second World’?
Yes.
But now it no longer exists. All that are left are First World and Third World.
Oh come on. Be honest. Test scores for math and science among American students have gone down long before any “woke ideologies.” Maybe blame it on the water supplies or the bad food or the “dumbing down” of american students since the 60s or 70s, as many have claimed.
In another comment below you talk about sports not being an emphasis. Are you kidding? Schools will spend millions on new sports arenas, but not on labs.
I agree the “woke ideology” has gone a little far, but to blame it for everything is ridiculous.
It started off as teaching respect for everyone and everyone’s differences. There is nothing wrong with that. Are we all supposed to be a cog in the machine? Are we all supposed to fit into a square hole?
Granted, Its been a couple decades since I have been in college, and I don’t have any children in school, so I don’t know everything going on..
The sillier aspects of “woke ideology” were always fads that weren’t going to last forever. They’ve lasted longer than they otherwise would have precisely because right-wing culture warriors found it profitable to attack them, which in turn gifted them unwarranted credibility.
Ask any old educator and the dumbing down started in 1969 and has been becoming more irrational since. Reason and simple rationality is no longer part of any institution in the USA today. A while ago when I lived in San Diego, I asked my next door neighbor, a professor at San Diego State University how are the students this year? Her reply was, “They should all have been abortions.” She actually had a class to teach new students how to write sentences. No kidding!
When you’re at war, that’s a must, isn’t it?
Yes, sustainability is the key…!
CNN should be careful because soon it may be labeled as a Russian TV Station…!
“CNN should be careful because soon it may be labeled as a Russian TV Station…!”
… and banned!
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