A new poll from Reuters/Ipsos found that the majority of Democratic voters prefer a presidential candidate who doesn’t support military aid to Israel, another sign that President Biden’s unconditional support for the Israeli slaughter of Palestinians in Gaza could cost him in November.
The poll shows that 56% of respondents who identified as Democrats were less likely to support a candidate who backs military aid to Israel, while 40% were more likely to support such a candidate.
The results were more evenly split when taking into account Democrats, Republicans, and Independents. The poll found 48% of all voters would be less likely to support a pro-Israel military aid candidate, while 47% were more likely to support such a candidate.
The poll shows that 62% of Republican voters favor a candidate who would arm Israel, while 34% would be less likely to support them.
President Biden is expected to run against former President Trump, and both are staunch Israel supporters. The Reuters/Ipsos found a plurality of Americans (34%) neither trust Biden nor Trump to broker a peace deal.
Biden is facing a wave of criticism and protest from within the Democratic Party over his unconditional support for the Israeli massacre in Gaza, which has killed over 30,000 Palestinians. Over 100,000 people voted “uncommitted” in Michigan’s Democratic primary last week in protest of the policy, a significant number of votes in a swing state.
YOU CAN ADD MY NAME TO THE LIST. I will not vote for any Democrats as long as they are supplying the bombs being dropped on innocent Palestinians families…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trump and friends welcome your vote.
“Trump and friends welcome your vote.”
Democrat Party apologists for Israel’s slaughter welcome the ‘uncommitted’ vote too:
a Democratic White House could stop defying the strong and growing will of its voters;
but if Biden keeps stiff-arming his electorate and loses? For the Israel-firsters? The genocide apologists?…
…a Trump win means, ‘Shrug, too bad for US democracy – Israel’s unconstrained mass murder of Palestinians is what counts.’
As I said, Trump welcome all who will vote him or not vote for Biden because of Biden’s handling of Gaza war.
“As I said, Trump welcome all who will vote him or-”
“As I said”? ie, yr repeating yrself vs the most basic act of good faith argument – engaging w/a response.
That says something about you.
Well if Trump wins it means America supports Israel war effort. Trump make it very clear that he supports Israel attack on Gaza. I don’t have a clue why you think that is bad for US democracy. If people don’t like the way Biden handles Gaza and they either vote for Trump or simply withhold a vote for Biden or waste their vote on a third party, that is what democracy is all about.
The elections will be a hate fest, a pustule of anger and demonization of the other.
I hope Biden is not a candidate in 2024. I would prefer toothsome Newsom to run against Trump, and may the better looking candidate win };-)>
I am OK with this. Biden is not a lesser evil. If anything, he is a greater evil.
I will vote 3rd party.
You have the right to waste your vote on a third party person that has zero chance of winning. As long as you vote, vote for who ever you want.
Elections?
2024 will finish the job of shredding the world’s respect for US elections & democracy.
Looks like it’ll be another shit show in ’24!
Here’s why the US constitution needs to change…: Trump can win the 2024 election even if a US court declares him as convicted felon before the election day…! Why..?! Because there is nothing in US constitution to prevent that…! The US founding fathers didn’t think of a scenario like that because they couldn’t imagine it…! And here’s the icing on the cake…: After winning the election as a convicted felon, the president Trump can pardon himself…!
“The US founding fathers didn’t think of a scenario like that because they couldn’t imagine it…!”
What you really mean is that you imagine that the Founders didn’t think of it. That’s very unlikely.
The provisions of the Constitution for impeachment and conviction are the result of discussion and debate in the course of the Constitutional Convention (1787-1789). It would be very surprising, given what we know about those proceedings and about the participants, if they had not considered the question of prior conviction in a civil court.
Although it was conducted in secret, much of the discussion at the Convention is known and relevant documents are available in places like the National Archives and the Avalon Project at Yale. It would be interesting to research the question. Actually, very likely there is also previous research available.
“And here’s the icing on the cake…: After winning the election as a convicted felon, the president Trump can pardon himself…!”
That’s not a settled question of law and there is a great deal of debate about it. “Nemo judex in causa sua” (“no one is a judge in his/her/their own case”) is a basic principle in the legal traditions that the US inherited. It had been codified in English common law a couple of centuries before the US Constitutional Convention. If the question comes before the Supreme Court, that principle will be central to arguing and judging the case.
It is telling that you write “founding FATHERS”. The founders meant natural rights when they talked about rights and under “natural rights”, women had no say, hence could not vote. The social nation they founded was typical for that time: for males only.
Lincoln and the second founding changed the concept of rights. The rights laid down in the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments were no longer “natural rights” but legal rights. Women had to wait until 1920 in which year we became a modern, complete nation in which no one is without any rights.
And if Trump cannot pardon himself, he is the only person on Earth which cannot pardon himself when convicted for violating a US law. A tribal leader from these early days!
It’s telling that you don’t know what quotation marks mean.
That you are popping into an exchange to drag it off onto some random tangent may also tell us something.
I think your point is a valid one. The founding fathers got lots of stuff wrong and the fact that the language of equality and freedom, only meant white, Christian men, brings the whole document into question. Also, lets examine how well the founding fathers constitution has worked. Personal freedom to exploit n.america/world and to dispossess anyone in your way to riches….has made a nation of self serving rich overlords, our new fathers, lol. The American social experiment is an abject failure, which has seen our earth destroyed and our populations subjugated and homeless. Time for a new document, but fat chance with America’s best offering of candidates. trump and biden, over 350milluon people and that’s the choices. Lots of amazing Americans, but your society is totally fucked, the constitution and founding fathers are not a path to a better world, but rather, a world destroyed. Nobody causes more suffering and death than America and her democracy, nobody.
There was a new document called the National Security Act of 1947.
It functions as a superseding document.
If it gets that far Trump will walk free.Between Bush and Trump the court is stacked for a long time unless the liberals come to power and pack the court like FDR tried.
Trump is being persecuted for what are really petty crimes.
Politically motivated with the intention of removing a political threat. If they felt it would get traction, they would try to find evidence of littering and jaywalking.
In contrast, ALL the presidents have engaged in much more serious crimes and more specifically war crimes that no one dares to prosecute..
Ask any older person about Nixon and they will reflexively respond with “Watergate!!!” as if his involvement in a stupid political coverups is significant compared to his illegal bombing of Cambodia killing many thousands innocents.
Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden all committed war crimes worthy of being sent to the Hague.
Agreed.
I agree with your premise but those “petty crimes” would have landed “common” people in jail. And those same people actually do have to worry about jaywalking and littering.
But there are similar circumstances where the rich would suffer fines v criminal indictments. Clinton also lied on campaign forms, calling the dossier payment, “legal services”, for example.
And then consider selective targeting. We have politicians beating the market consistently where they have say over legislation that bolsters earnings along with inside information.
It’s not that Trump is necessarily innocent. It’s that he is chosen and the pile on to get him from any angle possible is telling, including keeping him off ballots to “save democracy”. The fact that people actually ran campaigns on “getting Trump” is a big tell, lol.
It’s just like how if an employer wants to fire you, they can always dig up a reason. And you know I am no supporter of Trump, didn’t vote for him and still won’t. But it’s obvious from the Russiagate hoax up until today that he is a target. And it goes down easy for people to accept because he is hated. That doesn’t make it just, and it manufactures consent for more of the same in the future.
And a reminder, when Sanders was running in 2016, the FBI was investigating his wife.
The fact that the DOJ is still investigating Jan 6 during the election year makes this a political hit job.
Garland had his chance up to last June ASFAIC. After that, DC should have backed away and Democrats should have told Americans that it is now up to the voters to decide on the severity of Trump’s transgressions.
And the repeated lies that have become “facts” like 5 LE were killed that day.
They spied Dr. King. They probable killed Malcolm and JFK Our intelligence services have a lot to answer for. Its almost like anothern government that never ran for election.
The shadow government.
I was just talking about a different aspect of how the rich get treated compared to the poor. Nothing more. I’ve commented similarly elsewhere, and I made sure to include that I agree this is a witch hunt. It just strikes a chord when the comments contain such things as “petty crimes” when I know I’d be doing time for much less. So, my rants weren’t really about Trump in particular.
Rape with a finger is just as bad as a rape with a penis. There were other allegations over the years that were suppressed or bought off.
And before them,Truman,Kennedy,Nixon,Johnson, Reagan. They are all guilty of Imperialism and war crimes. Only one man ever tried to overturn the Government and Constitution. As Mick Jagger sung” Can you guess his name”?
Just as every cop is a criminal
And all the sinners saints
As heads is tails
Just call me Lucifer
‘Cause I’m in need of some restraint
You forgot Clinton for Serbia hospital bombing. Actually, Trump is hated by NATO and US military…he sought friendship with Putin.
Which confirms the fact that we consider US Presidents as emperors who are above the law. Forget about “blind” justice, but also remember that they removed Nixon not because he killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, but because he spied on the Demo Rats.
With SCOTUS delaying the trials Trumps election is a done deal. Goodby to the freedoms and liberties we once had although the term Democracy is not what Im would use. I prefer Plutocracy or nation of wage slaves.
What freedoms and liberties do you think Trump would assault?
It seems reasonable to expect that he’d continue assaulting freedom of movement, both because he tried to out-do Obama/Biden on that in his first term, and because he’s made it a centerpiece of his current campaign.
It seems reasonable to expect that he’d continue his assaults on the Second Amendment.
He might not try to impose war communism as he did in 2020, COVID having been a special case. Then again, he might find reasons to try to continue his general policy of moving toward a command economy.
Biden can barely walks and you are suggesting running in 2024.
Trump should pardon himself and jail all the cockroaches that concocted fake lawsuits against him. Aren’t two insects of “Stormy” affairs already in jail?
I am not suggesting Biden runs…You are…! Biden should step down…!
Jail Trump
Dump Biden
Hit the reset button already!
Make it more simple —-I will not vote for any candidate, Democratic or Republican, who supports US taxpayer money for Israel.
And who will you vote for in this Presidential election?
It’s about so much more than that. Biden has severely alienated a wide swath of the youth and Arab communities.
Droves of volunteers have been lost.
Perhaps the Zionists will try to fund and organize his re-election, but I don’t see it succeeding.
Don’t look now, but at at this point, only the deep state can save US from the Orange Terror.
“The poll shows that 62% of Republican voters favor a candidate who would arm Israel, while 34% would be less likely to support them.” LOL. Are you telling me more repugninants support genocide than demo rats? …Yes? …Well then, I guess that’s what you’re telling me.
The Democrats are more invested in the proxy war in Ukraine, since St Pantsuit lost the 2016 election because of the magical evil powers of Putin.
Are you talking bad about Hitlary?
A guy on another site calls her St Pantsuit which I find amusing, so I stole it.
LOLOL. I would steal it too. But, I’m upset you didn’t even notice my intentional typo? By the way, I also stole it from Emil Cosman on Youtube.
I noticed!
It does not matter. They all, make her fat and ugly including her politics
Israel needs a Go-Fund-Me page for donations to their country.
Why should taxpayers from the USA and other countries be forced to support Israel against their will?
Those who wish to support Israel can donate.
It should come out of the big guy’s take.
Supreme Court rules unanimously for Trump on Colorado
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68280062
This should be across the political isle. Sometimes, you’d think the lobby funds the dems for the sole purposes of manufacturing a fake divide.
This is a DNC childish ploy to view Republicans as warmongers…show me the audited survey data.
Trumps newest comment on the war that he said on Fox and Friends.
“Asked whether he supports the way the Israel Defense Forces is fighting in Gaza, Trump responded, “You’ve gotta finish the problem. You had a horrible invasion [that] took place.”.
Dear President Biden,
We never liked you that much anyway. You were for the Iraq invasion in ’03 and sand bagged Bernie in 2020.
And you haven’t done shit about Dobbs, but that’s understandable. You were always kinda right to life but Dobbs is now your best, maybe only strong campaign issue.
And the rubes lap it up!
First & foremost the bankers senator from Delaware, Senator Tax Dodge. And solid ally of the Pentagon.
Most of us have kept quiet through the Ukraine war, with some noteworthy exceptions, but Gaza was the last straw, the dam has burst and there’s no putting our support for you back together again.
We voted for you last time mostly because Trump wanted to lock us all up.
Take note Joe, you can’t win without us.
Stop the genocide!
End US aid to Israel!
Signed
The US anti-war Left