Months before the October 7 attack on southern Israel, the Israeli security agency Shin Bet received a warning from one of its sources in Gaza that Hamas was planning to carry out a “big move” shortly after Yom Kippur, which took place on September 25 this year, Israel’s Channel 12 reported.
The report said Shin Bet dismissed the warning as insignificant, and the intelligence did not make it to senior officials in the agency or its chief, Ronen Bar. Shin Bet sources said the lack of corroborating intelligence and the fact that the source only recently started talking to the Israeli agency contributed to the tip not being taken seriously, although they later admitted the source was considered highly reliable.
The tip was just one of many pieces of intelligence that was ignored or not taken seriously by the Israeli security establishment, which led to Israel failing to prevent the October 7 Hamas attack.
The New York Times reported in November that Israel had obtained Hamas’s battle plan for the October 7 attack more than a year before it took place, but Israeli military and intelligence officials did not believe Hamas was capable of carrying it out.
The Times report said the document Israel obtained “did not set a date for the attack, but described a methodical assault designed to overwhelm the fortifications around the Gaza Strip, take over Israeli cities and storm key military bases, including a division headquarters” and added that Hamas followed the blueprint with “shocking precision.”
According to Haaretz, Israeli military officials also ignored warnings from women in the Israeli Defense Forces who worked as “spotters” on the Gaza border. The women spent their days watching surveillance footage and reported unusual Hamas activity for an entire year, but their warnings were not taken seriously.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has come under intense domestic pressure due to the intelligence failure and his previous strategy of helping prop up Hamas to prevent the creation of a Palestinian state. Polls show the majority of Israelis want him to resign once the Gaza war is over, giving him incentive to keep the massacre going for as long as he can.
Bullshit. It was allowed to proceed so the “final solution” to Gaza could ensue.
I couldn’t agree with you more. The gatekeepers on this site will label you a conspiracy theorist for calling this operation a false flag event, just like they do those who don’t buy the official narrative of 9/11. By way of deception Israel makes war, always has been, always will be.
Yes, Israelis disguised themselves as Hamas,snuck across the border,turned around,and then attacked themselves. sometimes an apple is just an apple.
That’s not what a false-flag event is all about and you know it.
False flag: a political or military act orchestrated in such a way that it appears to have been carried out by a party that is not in fact responsible
You don’t have to actually do the deed.
Sully, “reading between the lines and then ignoring the lines” really is not a pathway to understanding.
Hamassian forces launched a limited incursion into Israeli territory. The IDF and ASI intelligence agencies a) knew in advance this was going to happen, and b) let it happen with the possibility the IDF did some damage itself to “sell” the attack as a slam-dunk casus belli.
The government of the ASI wanted something like Oct 7 as reason to launch the ethnic cleansing of Gaza “once and for all”, and by act & omission they got it.
A false flag narrative can be 99% factual, but if the 1% left out changes the whole story . . .
Not only was it a false flag to a certain degree, but the whole aim of the Hamas incursion has never been disclosed and it probably never will – by the governments and media. And like those provocateurs on January 6, trying to engage Trump supporters in crime, who knows how many Israeli provocateurs made sure the Hamas incursion occurred? Hamas was apparently doing what Israel has done for over 70 years- extrajudicial kidnappings to bargain with for the release of extrajudicially-kidnapped Palestinians! Israel’s actions in Gaza would be similar to a kid taking candy from a store and being executed for it. Its savage racism is on view for the whole world to see and the future does not look good for the warmongers in Israel and DC!
“And like those provocateurs on January 6, trying to engage Trump supporters in crime”
I know. Otherwise, the election results would have been overturned peacefully. Everyone would have stomped their feet and held their breath. And that’s all the Don wanted.
LOL
Jan 6th was a DNC/FBI false flag. The real insurrection occurred on Nov 4th @ 3am.
There was no insurrection. Trump’s toadies aren’t smart enough to do an insurrection. Jan. 6th was simply a riot that Trump started inciting in May of 2020 and all the clowns showed up in costume. Just like his rallies.
The Insurrection Act of 1807 seems to define “insurrection” as “obstruction to the laws, either of the United States, or of any individual state or territory.”
It’s been used in previous riots that were less obviously specifically aimed at obstructing the laws (e.g. the 1992 Los Angeles riots) than the Capitol riot, the sole and entire purpose of which seems to have been to obstruct the Electoral Count Act (and which succeeded in doing so for some period of time).
proof?
but the whole aim of the Hamas incursion has never been disclosed and it probably never will –
Actually it was. Written instructions were found on the bodies of Hamas fighters that indicate just what you surmised – surgical strike to obtain hostages and violence limited to neutralizing resistance.
I remember distinctly this being reported on NPR… Then silence, it was inconvenient to the “40 Decapitated Babies and RAPE RAPE RAPE narrative being slung about by the Zios and MSM – or do I repeat myself?
Anyway when the dust settles and the last Palestinian in Gaza gives up the ghost, they’ll hang Bibi out to dry and absolve themselves of genocide.
It’s the tried and true “Shoot first and cry later” playbook that they use with increasing frequency since the founding of the colony.
… and always ‘Israel the victim’ reluctant soft gutteral spiel by a profoundly hang-dog anguished Elie Wiesel type.
Gutter is the word!
In other words,killing of 1200 citizens should be tolerated;the victim is now the aggressor.As expected the UN failed to condemn Oct 7.As Netty said-‘Never Again is now”,and the true racists-the Judaeophobes in the Middle east-are being exposed.
“As expected I will pretend that the UN failed to condemn Oct 7, and hope nobody bothers to Google ‘UN condemns Hamas’ to find out otherwise.”
Fixed, no charge.
It was the only way for Bibi to form an emergency government. Unlock the farm gate, let the wolves in, then, ask for leadership to protect the rest of the farm from the wolves.
“intelligence did not make it to senior officials in the agency or its chief, Ronen Bar”
Yah, right.
“Sometimes Israel’s crimes are so horrific that at first you don’t even understand what you’re looking at. You just stare at it trying to make sense of what you’re seeing for a bit, like you would if you suddenly saw a space alien or a leprechaun or something… ” – Caitlin Johnstone
This gave me hope for humanity. These Israelis are courageous heroes, in pain from loss, and still bravely pushing forward against forces who wish to silence them. Please watch:
Israeli Peace Activists:
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/the-stream/2023/12/28/what-struggles-are-israeli-activists-facing-in-their-antiwar-movement
The USA ignored Palestinians for over 70 years while they were systematically killed and imprisoned. Now they pour weapons of genocide into Israel’s blood-stained hands, giving more guns to the bank robber!
Not ignored, just abetted Israel as a thanks for letting us plunk down bases in Israel. Part of our ME strategy.
I’m sure Bibi the Butcher could hardly contain himself waiting for the attack that he supposedly knew nothing about.
There is no way he didn’t know. Sin Bet, Mossad, spies in Gaza, U.S. listening posts feeding info to the Zionists. There is no way. On Pacific Radio, in October, Ralph Nader interviewed Lt. Col. Larry Wilkerson, former Chief of
Staff for Col. Colin Powell. He said he would not go there, yet, but he could not believe that with all the assets available to Israel that there was a surprise that there was an attack. Yes, he said he would not go there, yet. He also said that the two carrier groups sent to the region were troublesome, but that if a third were to be added it would be really troublesome, that an attack was imminent. Fubar ahead folks. Buckle up and stock up.
The Second 9/11, or independently called the First 10/7…!
And let us not forget all that “collateral damage” which occured at the Peace Rally that Hamas struck. Psycho Killer Nutandyahoo was not only able to jump start his genocide, and kill off a few Hamas fighters, but was also able to butcher several many Israeli peace activists who are his political adversaries in the process, and then after murdering so many Israelis for peace turn around and claim Hamas of doing a “genocide” on the Israelis. Two for one deal! Pure Psycho killer evil genius….. And let us not forget Genocide Joe who is backing the psycho killer all the way.
One question that arises here is whether the Oct. 7 Hamas attack was allowed to proceed in order to justify the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. It would not be the first time in history that a false flag attack occurred. The clock is ticking on the territory of Palestine lasting as an Apartheid state – there are now about 7.3 million Jews and 7.3 million Arabs in historic Palestine and the Arabs are reproducing faster. Get rid of 2.3 million Palestinians and the Jewish population is ahead.
Another question is what actually happened on Oct. 7 and who was responsible. First we were told 1400 Israeli civilians were killed on that day. Then it was reduced to 1200 and now I see even lower numbers. And how many were killed by IDF. The events of Oct. 7 along with a cover of anti-semitism are being used to justify the subsequent massacre or genocide in Gaza. We should know exactly what happened on Oct. 7, given the importance of the day in the pro-Apartheid hasbara playbook.
I think the plan is bigger. Israel needs to destroy Hezbollah so they can march the Palestinians north to Lebanon-Syria. All the Palestinians – including those in the West Bank. But they can’t afford for the West Bank and the Northern Fronts to erupt right now, since the IDF is too small to fight a 3-front war, so Gaza has to be crushed first. Hezbollah knows this, and is working hard to get something going on the West Bank, so it can pounce with a massive strike on Israel. The West Bank is key.
Sociopath/psychopaths do exist. So do stupors. Together they make wars.
This is so much like The Crime of September 11, 2001.
Israel’s Security Agencies Planned October 7 Attack