The Financial Times reported speaking with sources who said that Israel plans to wage war on Gaza for over a year. In a little less than two months, Israel has killed at least 15,000 people, damaged 100,000 buildings, displaced 1.7 million Palestinians, and destroyed most of Gaza’s medical facilities.
On Friday, FT reported sources said Israel was preparing for a multi-phase conflict in Gaza that will last at least a year. “This will be a very long war…We’re currently not near halfway to achieving our objectives,” said one person familiar with the Israeli war plans.
According to the sources, Israel’s goals include “killing the three top Hamas leaders — Yahya Sinwar, Mohammed Deif, and Marwan Issa — while securing a decisive military victory against the group’s 24 battalions and underground tunnel network and destroying its governing capability in Gaza.”
Israel does not appear close to achieving these goals. US sources have said that Israel’s military operations in Gaza have failed to impact high or even mid-level Hamas members. On Sunday, the Guardian reported that Israeli officials estimated that 1,000 – 2,000 Hamas members had been killed. However, FT spoke with an Israeli military source who gave an estimate of 5,000 dead Hamas members. It is unclear why there is such a large discrepancy in the numbers, as both were given during the week-long pause in fighting.
In either case, the Israeli military operations have killed more children, at least 6,000, than members of Hamas. The massive civilian toll has led to mounting world opinion against Israeli military operations.
Secretary of State Antony Blinken attended a meeting of the Israeli war cabinet on Thursday and warned that Tel Aviv will lose more international support as the conflict continues. Gen. Herzi Halevi, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) chief of staff, said military operations in Gaza will take “more than a few additional weeks,” suggesting Tel Aviv did not plan to follow Washington’s advice. Still, America’s top diplomat said Washington was still firmly committed to arming Tel Aviv.
The first phase of the war, an intense bombing campaign and ground invasion, is expected to last well into 2024. One source said the first phase of the war is about 40% complete. “Gaza City isn’t finished yet, nor fully conquered. It’s probably 40% done,” the person explained. “For the north as a whole, it will probably require another two weeks to a month.”
The second phase will be an operation with fewer military operations aimed at stabilizing Gaza. While the sources told FT that the second phase is projected to continue until late 2024, Israeli officials say they cannot predict a firm endpoint to the conflict.
The Biden administration has pushed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to agree to allow the Palestinian Authority to control Gaza after Hamas is defeated. However, one source told FT that Tel Aviv will not listen to Washington, even as the US provides Israel with billions of dollars in weapons. “No one, not even the US, can talk to them about this,” said one of the sources familiar with the matter. That person emphasized that this point was crucial to Netanyahu keeping his far-right war cabinet together.
Kyle Anzalone is the opinion editor of Antiwar.com, news editor of the Libertarian Institute, and co-host of Conflicts of Interest.
Israel’s goals include “killing the three top Hamas leaders — Yahya Sinwar, Mohammed Deif, and Marwan Issa — while securing a decisive military victory against the group’s 24 battalions and underground tunnel network and destroying its governing capability in Gaza.”
don’t forget about Hamas’ terrifying Flying Carpet brigade and their Magic Lamp spy division
Hamas of course is the UN recognised government of Gaza. So this is a declaration of war by the global elites on the Palestinian people in Gaza.
This is global elites Terrorism, Zionism and Nazism all rolled up by one entity we call NATO. The IDF like the AFU is just a subset of the greater NATO army controlled and directed by the global elites.
“Hamas of course is the UN recognised government of Gaza.”
Really? Got a citation for that?
“Hamas of course is the UN recognised (SIC) government of Gaza” Nope. The PLA is. PS recognized has a z not an s in it. Your Russian English teacher will not be happy.
Nope the PLA is West Bank.
No you used the term recognized. Hamas is the real government but not the recognized government.
Nope the UN and Israel fund Hamas. Like i said the recognised authority in Gaza.
Wrong, as usual, the UN does not recognize Hamas. As Dissident51 stated prove it.
You know, you could, when your assertion was first challenged, simply have checked and then said, “Oops, my mistake,” because it was a mistake, although hardly an earth-shaking one. Doubling down on wrong is a waste of your time and energy and those of the others in the exchange as well.
Nope the UN and Israel fund Hamas. Like i said the recognised authority in Gaza.
In theory, the “Palestinian National Authority” is the government of all of Palestine that isn’t Jordan or Israel.
Hamas is a political party, not a government, that happens to have won the last election it allowed to be held in Gaza. Fatah is a political party, not a government, that happens to have won the last election it allowed to be held in the West Bank.
I am not a civics genius but political party’s that win elections become the government?
Recognized and recognised are both English terms. Recognized is predominantly used in 🇺🇸 American ( en-US ) while recognised is predominantly used in British (en-GB).
That’s definitely more than a few weeks (the other article). Do they plan on killing everyone twice?
There are very good reasons that Israel has always had a major focus on short wars.
It can’t maintain for a long war the level of mobilization for which it plans. Size of force and length of war are interlinked.
It can’t maintain control of the international environment for an overlong period. Think of Bismarck, who made it a point to knock off enemies in short wars, vs the Kaiser who took on the whole world and lost. Wars run out of control, even if a nation very much wants to avoid that.
It can’t rely on a high level of US support for an overlong war. The US is very sensitive to long wars, and even more so to paying for someone else’s long war. See Ukraine.
It can’t get away with a long massacre. This has moral problems whether short or long, but people won’t overlook the moral problems for an overlong time. Already, American politicians are panicking at the electoral price they may pay.
This plan for a long war is defiance of all of Israel’s many good reasons always to have done the opposite.
It IS getting away with a long massacre. WE are funding it. You see, WE are the template as to how to ethnically cleanse a people. Netanyahu has pointed that out. It is in our psyche, to dominate, crush lesser people and nations. I estimate that the ethnic cleansing will be done by Pesach, 2024. There will be celebrations throughout Israel and the U.S.. Gaza and the West Bank will be rebuilt, into a veritable garden. There will be wonderful expensive houses along the beaches of Gaza,housing the wealthy. The harbor will be rebuilt, offering a dock for cruise ships. The natural gas deposits will be developed, allowing Israel to be a major player in the fossil fuel market. The airport will be rebuilt, allowing international travelers to seek out hotels along the shores. The houses that will be built will have wonderful lawns, swimming pools. It will be glorious. Schools will teach the children of the victory over the animals, the heathens that were known as the Palestinians. When asked where they are now, the answer will be, we don’t know, let’s move on to the next lesson……………..
While it is “getting away with” this in the US press, it is not so clear it will in the world at large. It is not so clear that the US press is the only thing that matters.
It is clear that reality intrudes. They can’t sustain such mobilization without economic collapse. They can’t keep all the diplomatic balls in the air so long without regional war falling on them. Reality has limits.
We don’t define reality by our fantastical thinking and press that even we don’t actually believe, a la Rumsfeld’s fantasies.
He LOST in Iraq and Afghanistan with that thinking. Then Team Hillary lost in Libya and Syria and Yemen thinking the same. Now Team Biden (Hillary 2.0) has lost Ukraine with this thinking.
Those losses are the model followed now by Israel.
It has become apparent that defending the nation of Israel requires blowing up the entire Near East. The only conclusion to be drawn is that the creation of Israel was a mistake in the first place.
“the creation of Israel was a mistake in the first place” – the creation of Israel was justified by a fake story about “ancient Israel”. This kind of fake stories are very harmful to the humankind. The lies are always bad.
Are you a historian now?
There’s only one story with two groups filling up the gaps in their favor.
IIRC, Mikhailovich believes that all of the “history” we “know” was made up by the Holy Roman Catholic Church 500 years or so ago, and that e.g. the actual historical Jerusalem was located in what’s now Turkey. Or something like that.
It is a plain fact that Catholic Vatican oligarchy controlled the science and the education in all Europe for more than one hundred years. Also it is a plain fact that “the traditional history” was fabricated by Catholic scholars Scaliger and Petavius in time when any one who dared not to agree with Catholic Church was executed.
A plain fact??
Lol.
Did I say otherwise? I was attempting to describe your belief, not debate it. If I was criticizing it, I guess the place I’d pick to criticize is your mention of “all Europe,” as if there wasn’t history being written outside of Europe which, where the two coincide, seems to largely agree on facts, dates, etc. with the European versions.
It was a time when Vatican version of the history was spread to the whole world. Still there are a lot of differences but they are silenced.
Victim of his own beliefs 🤷🏽♂️
A deadly mistake for the Palestinians, resulting in 75 years of occupation, 16 years of blockade. The kumbaya between SA and Israel conveniently left the Palestinians out of the equation.
75 years of national liberation,forced upon Jewish people by worldwide Judaeophobia. Many Palestinians lost their homes,as did many Jewish people.
Not exactly sure how this Judaeophobia
You mention got going. Do you have any ideas how it became uncomfortably pervasive…????
Oh I’m sure they will be happy to know that China seems to taken up an interest in their chosen endeavors as of late. I’m sure China will be very deferential to Israeli ownerships claims of various land by divine dictate Chinese are so devout to colonial dictates by micro states powered by religious dogmas.
Israel exists,some saints,some sinners Still the last refuge for Jews..Deal with it.
Seems like the Israelis are dealing with it. To bad they choose Genocide & infanticide as their “chosen” method. What could possibly go wrong. ???
And the country that has bribed both Republicans and Democrats to place its interests above those of the folks who elected them. Thanks AIPAC!
“destroyed most of Gaza’s medical facilities”, “displaced 1.7 million Palestinians”, “We’re currently not near half way to achieving our objectives” – the objective is the ethnic cleansing of Gaza and increasing the territory of Israeli state.
Says the guy that has been supporting Russia for almost two years here.
You should be supporting Israel. Palestine and Ukraine are both fighting for their land, freedom, and independence.
You pro Putin are so full of sh!t.
The one third of the trifecta of Tim, Jake, Don has spoken. Let the world be astounded. Incredulous. Mesmerized.
Some people are just too stupid to understand that Putin tried for eight years to stop the killing of ethnic Russians in the Donbas. He proposed two Minsk agreements. He tried to talk to the Americans. Personally, I think he did everything humanly possible to avoid war. It’s the same old problem that we always have: the inability to see things from the other guys perspective. I happen to believe that Putin’s “demands” were reasonable and should have gotten a hearing from our so called leaders.
I think from any perspective the unconstitutional change of power and Nazism are bad, and that is exactly what US, German, French and UK governments were promoting in Ukraine all those years.
Oh, the Nazi fall back line again.
Your Ukrainians never abandoned that particular line – unlike all thir others.
Some people are too stupid to continue believing Kremlin BS propaganda.
He proposed agreements after violating the ONE big agreement.
Yes, he is very trustful with agreements.
Im sure you believed him too when he assumed the world he would not invade Ukraine and it was just a Western lie. Lol.
The peaceful adult in the room, Putin tried so hard for peace that he ended up invading and annexing.
Try some new BS. This last one got overused here already.
You are full of pro-Nazi sh!t
Oh the standard “You are a Nazi” fall back term used by Putin lovers when called out. Lol.
Well, you are…
Don’t waste your time, there are people who believe what they are told. Such people borrow money to buy bombs rather than learn how to get along with the rest of humanity. BDS USA and Europe so they can’t afford to support eternal war.
Help Americans to understand how weak western economies are and to bring them down from the inside by becoming fully human and strong. Change diet, avoid prepared foods sold in plastic, pay off credit cards, plant a garden. Stop shopping.
At least it is not alpaca shit.
All Putin/Russia asked was that Ukraine NOT join NATO and be neutral, i.e. Not be a first strike base for the U.S. Neocons to cement U.S. worldwide “Full Spectrum Dominance” that they seek to retain their hegemony.
Next is expanding the control in the Golan Heights, then incursion into Jordan, then, the big one. Tactical nuke applied to Iran. We will back them up with a third carrier group. Iran had better whip up that nuclear weapon of their own. Pronto .
Iranian leaders always insisted that they don’t want develop nuclear weapons. Obviously, it was a wrong approach. Maybe, it would be more reasonable to insist upon UN inspection in Israel to find out if Israel has nukes, and in case UN fails, to start develop their own nukes or, at least, say openly that Iran also has such a right.
Iran is correct. No atom bombs are needed, atom bombs are old tech for backwards people.
Iranians have thousands if decentralized missiles that can fly in chosen windows on land or at sea. Chosen ones know who they are.
But Israel would retaliate with nuclear weapons …
The World would be aghast, but the US would wring its hands and provide cover.
It’s a modern form of MAD… Iran chooses Israeli chosen ones if Israel attacks.
Now that China has weighed in for Assad the game has changed and the Necons have succeeded in cementing Russia & China together in new and potentially negative ways for the U.S. and its NATO Gnomes.
Apparently, one can engage in all the ad hominem attacks you want but you dasn’t use certain words. How pathetic.
Not one more dime, do I care to give to Israel, not one more.
Funding genocide is not my deal………………………………………
Don’t waste your time, you do not live in a democracy. The Global Elite control all levers of power and you have no say. But be sure to call Biden’s office and tell him he has your vote in 2024.
Touché!
I am thinking about writing in Alfred E. Newman…….
We were all fine for a decade funding Nazism, ethnic cleansing and genocide in Ukraine though right? We just hate Russians so much, but not racist at all.
The reason of Russo-phobia is the existence of Russian state which makes the unipolar world impossible. The same is the reason of Sino-phobia.
As long as there is a federal government it will support Israel
We can fix that. The current Federal government is already a serious problem for other reasons. This may be the tipping point.
We need regime change.
Yup. There is a reason the founders of America wanted a looseconfederation, not the all powerful national government we have today. From now on the only question I ask every federal election is “does this candidate move us toward or away from a collapse of the federal government” and only vote for the former.
But there may not be a federal government much longer. What happens to Israel then?
It starts having to deal honestly with its neighbors
Anyone who insists that Israel should start to deal honestly with it’s neighbors, would be immediately blamed of antisemitism.
And without the federal government to enforce punishment on those it deems “anti-Semitic,” no one would care. We don’t fear the labels they brand us with, we fear the harm they mete out upon those they hate.
So who do you support?
Rhetorical question.
WHO DO WE SUPPORT??? IN THIS CASE it’s the victims of the Israeli Infanticide, the children which likely number 6000 dead as of the last two days. But how many lost an arm or leg or two and are now the walking soon to be dead in this Israeli slaughter of innocents????
If it hadn’t been for Genocide Joe
We’d have a two state solution long time ago
Where did you come from? Where did you go?
Where did you come from Genocide Joe?
The Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) and NATO lost over 125 thousand servicemen and 16 thousand units of various military equipment in six months of the global elites so-called counteroffensive.
Global elite losses in Hamas is going the same way, big losses for the occupying IDF and NATO forces. Both the AFU, IDF and NATO are inflicting huge civilian casualties, undertaking ethnic cleansing and genocide. Business has never been better.
The dead people and burnt equipment just means bigger ongoing cash flows for the global elites. They are making a killing. Zionism, Terrorism and Nazism is the means by which the global elites wage war for Profit. And business is good.
As usual, more garbage from Russia.
Thank you Tim, Jake, Don. All for one. One for all. In your crowded mind.
Thank you, phony.
One of many fake Americans in the blog.
Tim Burns, another one who has his past comments hidden. One cannot get any idea if he is a reasonably or some nutjob living in his Parents basement on junk food and Orio cookies!!!!!!
There are 500 kilometers of underground tunnels in Gaza…! Israel will be lucky to destroy 1 km of it every day… That would take 500 days…! What Israel does not realize is while Hamas is losing tunnels, more new tunnels are being dug…!
Hamas is the excuse for ethnic cleansing. The Zionists figured out how to get it done. They know that, short of the UN having multiple nations shut it down, nothing will stop them. Nothing.
Israel has violated 28 resolutions of the United Nations Security Council (which are legally binding on member-nations U.N. Charter, Article 25 (1945); a few sample resolutions – 54, 111, 233, 234, 236, 248, 250, 252, 256, 262, 267, 270, 280, 285, 298, 313, 316, 468, 476, etc.
Palestine is currently recognized by 138 of the 193 United Nations (UN) member states. The 55 nations that do not recognise Palestine are predominantly NATO nations.
The destruction of Palestine and the genocide of the Palestinian people is a NATO global elite project. As is Terrorism, Nazism and Zionism.
The only reasonable plan is to move Gazans to camps in Israel, clean out Hamas, move them back to Gaza. Israel refuses and seems to embrace the plan of 15,000 dead, 2,085,000 more dead over this next year, and they have Gaza.
They can’t remove the settlers from the WB, why should the Palestinians be removed from Gaza and where too, Montana comes to mind, why not? Gaza is Palestinian and is illegally occupied property as is the WB and much more, it is morally and legally wrong.
The Irgun, Zionist terrorists, expelled some 750 000 Palestinians from Israel, 70% of the people in Gaza are descendants of these refugees. Have the Israelis and the Western powers no sense of decency?
I should not ask, no, they have no decency.
I would say it’s hard to believe just how evil the U.S. Government has become, but not really. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-sends-bunker-buster-bombs-to-israel-for-war-on-gaza-report-says/ar-AA1kSxpp?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDGEDB&cvid=019813abd2ab45cb9f0fd4e022cfbc33&ei=30
It’s like bowling. First you set them up, so you can knock them down.
It’s the reason I vote for whichever candidate is going to push us further toward a collapse of the federal government. Election denying Republicans and Democratic Socialists are usually good picks.
Americans don’t wish their country collapses.
You are another phony here.
I love my country but I fear my government. Go suck Neo-Con ****
The federal government is not “the country.” It’s just the particular and parasitic organized crime operation that happens to be sucking “the country” dry at the moment. Those can and do come and go.
hey Knapp, you are going to make some dudes’ noggins ache.
i have only 1 bottle of aspirin and i am not going to share.
GRR.
what.
If you were an American you would know that we have 50 state governments that can manage our affairs just fine, as our nation’s founders intended. Federal government is a cancer on the country.
Israel is looking to expand this war or at least get a new coastal territory with an untapped oil well. Turkey, Egypt, Iran will just bark but not bite. Wheel in the sky keeps on turning…
not oil – – – there is natural gas
Even better.
One of the aims of terror bombing is to demoralize the enemy; facing continual death and destruction, direct attacks upon an enemy country’s cities by strategic bombers would lead to a rapid collapse of civilian morale
Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Nothing Israel is doing should be a surprise. Netanyahu was very candid and explicit from the start about what Israel planned to do to Gaza.
Western liberals who cheered it are now getting a bit queasy for their legacies, but this is what they vowed to support until the end.
Cowards wage war on women and children, they will go down in infamy. The Nazi movement was rooted in the humiliating unconditional Versailles surrender, but the Palestinians had nothing to do with it and the holocaust, and two wrongs don’t make it right. The holocaust is now being weaponized and used to justify other war crimes.
As usual, the US does all it can to instigate wars using others as proxies, the Ukrainians and the Palestinian people are nothing but cannonfodder for the war profiteers.
The leader of the Palestinians,the Grand Mufti,actively supported the holocaust in Yugoslavia.
hey yalls, i recommend google “the Grand Mufti” and figure out for yourselves what is what.
A recommendation from you?
Lol
Lol agent
almost no one is reporting that there is a massive natural-gas field off-shore of “Israel”.
if the undesirables are eliminated from that region then it will be all the easier to extract said gas.
Why do you think that the elimination of Palestinians will have any impact on offshore gas extraction?
Israel is already extracting gas everywhere except for a sliver of water area that was negotiated as Palestinian with the UN (I don’t think Gazans had a say in it).
Unless Hamas has a submarine fleet, gas extraction is not impacted in any way by the Hamas war.
oh sh*t my bad
Well gee, Stalingrad only took six months…
Mistakes Were NOT Made
The Killing Fields, drenched in the blood of countless innocents, did not unfold as an unintended consequence. It was a symphony of brutality conducted by those who reveled in the perverse pleasure of unchecked power. The fields were not sown with accidental misjudgments but with the seeds of calculated cruelty.
And now, in the great democide of the 2020s, we find ourselves ensnared in a web of orchestrated chaos. Do not be deceived by the smokescreen of incompetence; this is not a bungled affair but a grand production scripted by unseen hands. The pandemic of fear, the walls of control, the rewriting of rules – these are not the result of accidental folly but the execution of a plan laid bare for those willing to see.
-Margaret Anna Alice-
The Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) and NATO lost over 125 thousand servicemen and 16 thousand units of various military equipment in six months of the global elites so-called counteroffensive.
Ukraine has already burnt through three NATO provided armies in 2 years with significant losses in men and machinery. NATO has the following losses in Ukraine; 545 Aircraft, 256 helicopters, 9361 UAV’s, 442 Anti Aircraft systems, 13759 tanks inc. APC’s, 1187 multiple rocket launchers, 7224 field artillery and 15876 military automotive equipment. Approx. $1 Trillion of NATO hardware.
They are now asking for a fourth NATO army to be provided, the problem is that Ukraine has run out of men to throw into the meat grinder. The 20-30 male age group has collapsed. The proposal now is to draft woman and children, presumably at gunpoint like the males.
This statement by Israel is akin to “Carthago delenda est” – wiping out every last woman and child because we hate them and fear them.
If this is tolerated by the world then the precedent is beyond horrifying with modern technology.
The world has been this way for centuries, the greed and avarice is totally horrifying. Zionism, Terrorism and Nazism is the means by which the western global elites wage war for Profit. And business is good.
For the Palestinian people the Star of David is equivalent to a Swastika. For the Russian people NATO is equivalent to Nazi Germany. For the Afghanistan people the US is equivalent to ISIS.
But for the global elite the cash keeps rolling in which is why the US occupies the oil rich regions of Syria. And in Syria ISIS is the US.
This world is Hell, ontologically speaking.
Human nature is a mixture of good and evil but the evil side has a better chance of winning than its good.
In other news, Venezuela Maduro considering to pull a Putin in Guyana.
It is predictable who will the majority here support.
https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article282565043.html
assholes! WTF are yalls gonna do ?
what
At this rate, they can go for a half a million dead Palestinians and there isn’t a damn thing anyone can do about it.
Netanyahu had said in the 1970s: “If we do it right,
we have the chance to expel all the Arabs in the next war …
We can take over the West Bank. We can clear the West Bank
and cleanse Jerusalem”.