Israeli aircraft dropped leaflets on a city in the southern half of the Gaza Strip, instructing Palestinians to flee the area. The evacuation notice suggests that Tel Aviv plans to ramp up its military operation in south Gaza. Defense Minister Yoav Gallant confirmed a ground invasion of the area would happen at some point.
In the first days of Israel’s military operation in Gaza, it instructed Palestinians to flee to the southern half of the besieged enclave. At the time, human rights groups warned the forced displacement of the million people who live in the northern half of Gaza would create a humanitarian crisis. The Norwegian Refugee Council slammed Tel Aviv, calling the evacuation order a “war crime of forcible transfer.”
As Israel’s onslaught in Gaza concludes its sixth week, the northern half of the strip has been decimated. While south Gaza has been bombed, Israel’s main ground operations have been limited to the north.
The UN estimates that of the 2.3 million people living in Gaza, 1.5 million have been displaced. Around half of the population of the strip are children. Over 11,000 Palestinians have already been killed, including 4,500 children. Tel Aviv says 50 Israeli soldiers have been killed during ground operations inside of Gaza.
Now, Tel Aviv appears ready to turn the focus of its military to the south. The Israeli air force dropped leaflets on Wednesday night in eastern areas of Khan Younis, a city in southern Gaza, ordering people to leave their homes and shelters “for their own safety.”
The leaflets suggest an invasion of south Gaza will begin soon. Gallant said the ground operation will eventually “include both the north and south. We will strike Hamas wherever it is.” However, he did not indicate when he would order his forces into the southern half of the strip.
Some of the Palestinians sheltering in Khan Younis fled northern Gaza last month. The UN explains that patients have been evacuated from the Al Quds hospital in Gaza City to a hospital in Khan Younis.
According to the AP, there is not a clear plan in place for where the Palestinians should go. “It’s not clear where else they could go, as Egypt refuses to allow a mass transfer onto its soil,” the AP reports. Cairo sees opening its borders to the Palestinians creating permanent refugees and participating in Tel Aviv’s ethnic cleansing of Gaza.
Kyle Anzalone is the opinion editor of Antiwar.com, news editor of the Libertarian Institute, and co-host of Conflicts of Interest.
EDWARD SAID (1935-2003). Palestinian-born intellectual and world-famous literary critic. Author of ‘Orientalism’ and ‘The Question of Palestine’. Professor of English Literature at Columbia University, NYC until his death in September 2003. From the BBC series ‘Exiles’.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7g1ooTNkMQ4
PAINFUL!
Poor American Evangelists. They were sure that Jesus was coming back to earth with the establishment of Israel. When, behold, Satan came!
I’d much rather have Satan back (also I don’t believe in any of it).
There’s a wonderful little apocrypha out there what suggests that the bible was a propaganda switcheroo – that the “God” character is actually the evil entity and the “Devil” was actually the good deity, but the “God” bad guy ‘inspired’ the bible writers to write the bible such that the bad guy is called the good one and vice-versa.
Read the bible & see if that doesn’t sound entirely plausible…!
I believe the Gnostics thought the G-d of the Creation was a screw up.
“…the Gnostics…”
Well, they’d know. (ha ha)
The Gnostics thought the serpent offering wisdom and knowledge was benevolent. And they claim that Satan and God are the same in the Old Testament. And Christ rejected Satan in the desert, in the new. I just read some article on it. I think the Internet has me reading overmany perspectives; this I read unintentionally due to the Israeli conflict.
1. The serpent was the only one who told Adam and Eve the truth.
1.1 I like the idea that the serpent in the Garden was Lilith (many Renaissance paintings seem to agree).
2. The Jesus & Satan story is puzzling. If it was just the two of them out there – then who witnessed it to write down the details ?
I guess he told the story to another.
1. We know the evolution of the humans. The serpent who is looking for the truth resides inside human brain.
2. The Jesus & Satan story is an optimistic story. It teaches us that we with help of God can resist the temptations of Satan.
Both of your points are constructed with English words, Mikhailovich-to-the-Chief, but assembled as you did, they don’t make a gat-damn’d lick ‘a sense.
#1 is a baffling WITAS moment.
#2 seems to suggest Jesus and/or God (depending on one’s trinitarian viewpoint) frequently lacked the power of either a high-level D&D Cleric (to “turn” or Banish a high-level Devil)…
…or of Thanos, who’d have Snapped young Satan out of existence with MORE no-real-effort than a tri-omni god (again if one ascribes such detail to it) would really not have needed.
Your points are also constructed with English words, so what? Probably you know yourself, what you are writing is nonsense.
“Your points are also constructed with English words, so what?”
Well, when mine are composed and read, they make sense. At best what you replied was a “deepity” – a statement that appears to be profound and thoughtful, but when analysed a moment later, is determined to be hogwash.
Ahh well, this is only biblical analysis – it could only make so much sense anyways. Nae mind, laddeh.
BREAKING: AIPAC is spending $100 million to defeat the Squad.
You do have to admire the courage of any American politician who dares question the US government’s unwavering support for the Netanyahoo regime.
Real election meddling in broad daylight.
Is it meddling when you own the party?
Excellent point.
They own the government, it is internal meddling between the left and right wing government, the election is the façade of democracy.
Not at all-AIPAC are US citizens,lobbying for the positions of their choice .Educators lobby, the MIC lobbies,Police unions lobby,the AMA lobbies, pro and anti fossil fuel entities lobby.
AIPAC lobbies on behalf of a foreign government. Those other you mentioned, not so much.
The US is full of China lobbyists, Arabist lobbyists. I seem to recall the US supporting Britain in two world wars.
If you would have mentioned them in your earlier comment, I would have commented on them like I did about AIPAC. But you didn’t because you knew the difference and you wanted to deflect from the obvious.
But there’s one lobby so powerful, it rules them all. One lobby to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them.
But China isn’t bound, yet.
“But they were all of them deceived…”
Frick that was one of the best opening scenes I have ever seen.
I keep hoping Biden will wake up but I guess it is not going to happen.
I think Bye-Done needs to smoke some weed………………………..
I’m trying to picture a stoned Biden. Nope. It doesn’t help.
Why? I just saw him yesterday.
You mean he isn’t?
He does look stoned most of the time.
I recommend Maui wowie or Hindu Kush.
Are all the posters here pot heads?
Never have been big on pot. I occasionally use CBD for pain relief and I’m trying out low-THC edibles for sleep assistance, but of all the recreational drug experiences I’ve tried, “high on weed” is way down the enjoyability list.
You aren’t. So, no.
You aren’t. So, no.
When you have so few brain cells, the impact wouldn’t be good.
You can always bet the farm on Sleepy Joe doing nothing.
And what would Trump do in this case?
I’m glad he’s not President right now. He’d back Israel totally. Hopefully, Israel has finished with the Gazans by the time Trump takes office again, if he does. We need peace under an ostensibly “right wing” leader.
Of course we need peace. The question is whether it is achievable. It doesn’t look so.
The same.
Biden may never come out of his coma, if anything he will leave it for never, never land before the election. Not that it matters, no replacement could be worse than Biden, not even Trump.
Was there ever such an Obscenity?
Goodness Gracious, our Most Beloved, not to mention Most Invaluable Thomas K is missing in action from this discussion?
V Disappointing.
I was so looking forward to his Most Invaluable, not to mention Most Essential Views on the subject ..
Had to see a man about a scooter.
Not that I have any particularly unusual views on the subject. Clearly the Israelis want to drive as many Palestinian Arabs completely out of Gaza as possible, and they’ll continue to create various pressures to accomplish it, hoping that eventually the US will lean on Egypt to take the refugees and never send them back.
Painstakingly accurate, just for a change.
Kudos to You, T.
Ethnic Cleansing. All that’s missing to make Bibi’s day is the ovens.
I know you meant well, but: Bibi is better because he doesn’t use ovens? Ask the dead/genocided Palestinians and they would probably tell you, no. They wanted to live. Bibi wanted them to die. How they got there is just a technicality.
Didn’t he claim Hamas put babies in ovens during the attack? I really want to see these claims looked into. I don’t believe any of them.
Why are comments not appearing in threads, but not marked as removed? And why under some articles does it say 6 comments with none appearing?
I have a similar view. Israel is intent on moving all the Palestinians out of Gaza. There is nowhere for them to go but the Sinai. Egypt says no to that, but when push comes to shove what else is possible?
They might come to the US.
terrible
“It’s beginning to look a lot like Hitler, everywhere you go”…
Happy Holidays!
Beginning? Looks like 1942.
It’s a song, remember?…
If it is a song, it has become true.
But I think the Zionists and the neocons are many times more insane than the Hitler Nazis were.
It is so crazy is is totally unreal, not one sane person in DC and Tel Aviv, London, Paris, and Berlin?
German Nazis treated the indigenous population in Slavic countries not much different than English, French and Holland colonizers treated indigenous population in Africa, Asia and America. Nazism is a kind of the racism. Zionists are doing the same. Nothing new about that. When indigenous population is weak, it is either exterminated by colonizers, as most of North American indigenous population was exterminated and replaced by Europeans, or deprived of all rights and exploited as it happened in South Africa. Russia and China are proclaimed the major threat to western democracies because both Russia and China are too strong and all the effort to colonize them failed miserably.
The strong do as they may,the weak suffer as they must……………..
Now China has colonized Tibet, and will do the same to Taiwan.
Taiwan isn’t a separate ethnicity. Tibet is.
Tibetan language is the official language of Tibet Autonomous Region of China. For example, in “democratic” Ukraine only Ukrainian language is recognized as official. Ukrainian “democracy” is not only ferociously Russo-phobic but also abuses the human rights of Hungarian and other ethnic minorities. Kiev neo-Nazi regime exists only thanks to great “democratic” country USA.
So true, well said.
They weren’t just exterminated. Many died from disease. Many others were just driven out of their carrying capacity and starved.
Russia was in Alaska. It behaved the same… Alaska is just cold and sparsely populated.
You don’t understand the role Christianity played. Christians will not tolerate pagans, and some Amerindians were into human sacrifice and cannibalism. No one knows how widespread it was. It was hugely popular in MesoAmerica, and there’s evidence in the North. But those people were either absorbed or died. There aren’t many left. It’s like Australia or Finland, the “natives” often look Swedish, today…
I think it is you who don’t understand the difference between Russian and Anglo-Saxon civilizations.
I don’t, but I think you speak of a Russian history that never existed. Russia had slavery in Alaska. But when you talk of differences, there were specific reasons for those differences. They weren’t necessarily civilisational.
Anyway, it was also Spain. Spain enslaved MesoAmerica, Mayans.
The truth is that Alaska and all western coast of North America was a part of Great Tartary. After the defeat of Great Tartary in 1774, those lands were never controlled by Romanovs. It looks that according to some agreement between Brits and Romanovs, those lands (also a good part of eastern Siberia), should belong to Brits but they were bitten by American separatists. So California was incorporated into Mexica and Alaska remained de facto nobody’s land until Romanovs, many years later sold it to USA. Actually Romanovs never owned Alaska. Most of Russian settlers of time of Great Tartary lived in California. Russians treated people of Alaska not any different than people of North Siberia.
It is insane that people deny that rejectionist Hamas committed a massive atrocity on 10/11.It is insane to deny that there would not be payback.
“10/11 – It’s One Better Than 9/11.”
If you don’t work in Advertising, you should – such horses**t branding would sell like mad, Son !
You can usually tell who is pop culture-less.
1942 was my favorite arcade game.
To me it looks more like 1945.
Two nations, Ukrainians and Palestinians are being massacred. In Ukraine the home made neo-Nazis are killing their own people for another warlord.
By Neo nazis you meant the Ukrainians that don’t want to be part of Russia.
The Azov cabal, the guys Obama/Biden/Nuland jumped in bed with.
Not all Israelis are Zionists, not all Germans were Nazis and not all West-Ukrainians are neo-Nazis either.
Most Ukrainians just wanted peace and be left alone like the Russian Ukrainians until the Amis came using the neo-Nazis to serve their interests by brainwashing them and the world that Ukrainians wanted to become NATO members.
They wear swastikas and praise Bandera. They have swastika tattoos, and they aren’t Hindu or Buddhist…
Neo? In 1941 when the German army had driven the Soviet army out of Minsk, a member of the Bandera Nazi party went to the local radio station to proclaim the birth of an independent Ukraine aligned with and protected by Nazi Germany. That did not happen because Hitler had other plans for Ukraine.
Yes, Hitler had other plans for Ukraine, Poland and Baltic republics. Still he used their radical nationalism for German Empire benefit. What is remarkable, the modern neo-Nazis in Ukraine, Poland and Baltic republics are proud that their grandfathers served to German Nazism. All those post-Soviet years, Baltic neo-Nazis had their SS parades in honor of their participation in WW II under Hitler leadership. After the coup 2014, Ukrainian neo-Nazis did the same in Kiev (with full approval of other NATO countries).
The Holodomor did not exactly help moderacy in Ukraine.And who lovingly assisted the Germans at Babi Yar?
Ukrainian far-right nationalism with pro-German orientation appeared in the western Ukrainian regions which in time between WW I and WW II were under the rule of fascist Poland. They were incorporated in USSR only in the autumn 1939. Those 20 years made the local Ukrainian population ferociously anti-Polish. That explains why they exterminated with such an enthusiasm not only Ashkenazi but also Poles.
Chmielnicki commited his massacres in 1648. Ukranians did not need Germans to teach them hate.The disease is deep in the culture.
We can talk only hypothetically about 17th century. Too many lies about those events.
The plain fact is that the cradle of Ukrainian far-right nationalism is in the western regions of Ukraine which were incorporated in USSR only in 1939. The collectivization happened some years earlier. So, “Holodomor” is not an argument.
True, but in the end of a possible regional war will be scorched earth as far as the eyes can see, that would include Israel
A regional war spreading to Iran and American battle ships could easily spread and involve Turkey and Russia and Europe, and who can tell were it could end with nuclear weapons in the hands of a Netanyahu and a comatose Biden. The Israelis don’t need American battleships to level Gaza, the ships are there for a bigger regional war at least involving Iran and Syria.
Good one. Now every time I hear that sappy song over the holidays, I’ll chuckle. Thank you.
Sure, just like Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.
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“Thanksgiving” Day of Mourning is coming up here. On this day instead of eating oneself glutton and watching football games, North American Indigenous peoples fast and remember what really happened. As this “holiday” this year is coinciding with the current Nakba in Palestine, looks like it is time for this holiday to go international. May we all observe this day worldwide in support of all peoples who are victims of colonial suppression.
I wonder where and when the next war will kick off.
Yes China out of Tibet.
Bears mentioning that if Political Correctness v.4.0 hadn’t ruined sports franchise names, this Thanksgiving Day would have featured a very on-the-nose Cowboys Vs. Redskins (Dallas v. Washington) matchup.
Maybe big mouth Turkey will bring more than a dreidel for the upcoming Hanukkah.
Unlikely. What would Turkey gain?
Turkey is one of the biggest supporter and sponsor of Hamas, perhaps they should govern Gaza.
I love your sarcasm and humor but the Palestinians are not laughing.
Do they just cross out “south” on those leaflets that were left over from the last time Israel was being humanitarian (yes sarcasm).
I assume so – IDF’s not going to use US funding to get a new run of leaflets from Kinko’s.
Uncle Joe will give Bibi whatever he wants as long as the campaign cash contributions keep flowing in.
Evangelicals say: It’s God’s work. Glenn Beck wants to go over and help.
“Glenn Beck. Hi ! It’s not 2003 any more. You haven’t been socially relevant in a very long time. Step back into obscurity, you’re blocking up the queue.”
Well, if you’re intending genocide, they don’t have to go anywhere, do they? If you’re intending just ethnic cleansing, then they have to leave all of Gaza. Israel doesn’t care which has to happen, as long as it does. And the Biden administration is happy to allow it.
The main point is that Nasrallah has explicitly said that if Hamas looks to be defeated, they will enter the war. So one way or the other Israel will be attacked by Hezbollah – and Israel can not defeat Hezbollah even less than they can defeat Hamas. Even with US assistance, I don’t think Hezbollah can be beaten, although they might be somewhat constrained.
Plus as the Duran guys said yesterday, the US continues to move forces into the region evidently intending to attack Iran and presumably to attack Hezbollah once they enter the conflict. And Biden and the neocons clearly intend to do this. This is how Biden operates, as the Duran guys said: always go for the most aggressive and confrontational approach. So eventually Iran will be involved in retaliation.
I don’t see any way to avoid a wider war. Which the US and Israel will lose eventually just as the US loses all its wars since WWII. Israel will end up wrecked beyond repair – and if it tries to use its nukes, Russia and China will intervene.
Which will bring us to the threat of nuclear WWIII. Ukraine was bad enough, but this situation is much worse.
Russia and China are definitely on the side of Iran. However it doesn’t mean that Russia is going to nuke US or Israel. Russia is helping Iran already with modern military technologies. Also Russia is helping North Korea. Maybe that is enough. Both Iran and North Korea are strong enough to inflict a serous damage to their enemies. Turkey also has a strong motivation to side rather with Russia and Iran in this conflict than with NATO. And there is armed with nukes Pakistan. I don’t think anyone in US or in Russian leadership wants a full scale nuclear war between the major nuclear powers. A proxy war looks unavoidable indeed. We have already one in Ukraine. So, why not one more?
I didn’t suggest Russia and China would nuke Iran. What they could do is take out Israel’s missile sites. I’m sure they know where they are and Russian Kinzhals could do the job from the Black Sea. Russian subs could do the job for closer to Israel, as could Chinese subs or other naval vessels with stand-off weapons.
Iran also has hypersonic missiles. Iranian missiles are very good. Actually, at the moment, only three countries have hypersonic missiles: Russia, China and Iran.
Good for them,bad for the US Navy and their multi Billion Aircraft Carriers then brunt of applied American power. I won’t miss them but thousands of dead sailors is a large price to pay for being young and stupid.
American Aircraft carriers are defenseless against the modern Iranian missiles. At least so it looks to many specialists.
Not at all. Hitting a moving target like a carrier requires target acquisition at the terminal phase. And that is a problem for a fast moving missile. One can drive 100 MPH on the freeway but you can not make a tight turn at that speed.
Carriers have large surface areas and are not fast-moving objects.
Last I’d read, the DPRC (among others) was developing hypersonic carrier-killers than would impact straight down on the flight deck instead of, say, at the vessel’s hull on the water-line.
A modern carrier holds impressive anti-aircraft, anti-ballistic defenses against (x,y)-coordinated vectors; the vertical z-axis tho, and at multiple Machs ? Not so much.
Aircraft carriers can be replaced – with the jobs done in key Congressional districts and under important donor contractors’ care.
Sailors are a bit tougher to replace, what with most branches failing to hit recruitment targets. But they’re only people often at the low end of the economic spectrum; easy enough to wreck the economy further and drive more poor kids into the false glow of G.I. Bills and flashy promises of travel and ‘adventure’.
True, but Iran’s hypersonics are new, so they probably don’t have many. Also, if Iran is attacked, they will probably have to use most of their missile arsenal on US assets in the region.
I tallied up their long-range missiles and it looks like out of the 3,000 or so total arsenal, only about 500-750 can reach Israel. Of course, mixed with Hezbollah’s closer 100,000 or more, it will all make short work of Israel.
However, if Israel threatens nukes, it will be in Russia’s interests, at least, and perhaps China’s, to make sure that doesn’t happen.
Money,money ,money,how the cash rolls in for the MIC.
War is very much profitable for the capitalists who own the military industry. That is a big problem. MIC definitely should be nationalized.
Along with Medicine,Pharma,Oil,Education and welfare.
Yes, but MIC is the most important.
Russia reserves the right to go nuclear if faced with an existential threat,So should Israel. Russia was provoked into the Ukraine war,Israel was provoked by years of shit from Hamas and Hezbollah and their masters.
Hamas was financed by Israel. In 2019 Netanyahu said that it is in Israeli interests to support Hamas. Hamas killed thousands of anti-Zionist Palestinians. Also Hamas participated in the war against Assad. Now Zionists use Hamas as pretext for genocide of Palestinian people.
Is there anything on Earth that can stop the Gemocide and slaughter of Palestine by this cretinous bunch of Zionists,Imperialists and mass murderers.?
Eventually…when the wider war starts. Once Hezbollah, Iran, maybe Turkey, Syria, who knows who else get involved, then Israel gets trashed and the US loses another war.
At the moment, no. This is the consequence of over 75 years of mistakes being made by everyone involved. the Palestinians didn’t organize back in the 1940’s, failed to organize effectively since, the PLO failed with their terrorism operations, the US public failed to reign in the US support for Israel, the Arab nations failed to organize effectively against Israel, and so on and so forth.
The only effective resistance to Israel has been Hezbollah. But Hezbollah probably can’t defeat Israel on its own (Israel can’t defeat them, either, probably even with US assistance). So it’s going to take Hezbollah, plus other militia or Arab state armies, including Iran, to take down Israel and defeat the US regional presence.
It will happen – but whether it leads to WWIII is the problem.
The prospect of WW3 is chilling. In fear the only thing the American citizens care about are consumer products and the price of gas.
No one believes war can come here, but instability, corruption, and poverty can come. The US has nukes. War isn’t possible.
The Arab nations became tired of fighting loosing battles with Israel-some even try to quietly get along .Palestine was betrayed by Arafat and subsequent leaders,who blew up any sort of negotiations.
Get real, why does comatose Biden’s neocon crew move battleships to the ME? They want war with Iran and Syria. The officials in DC and Tel Aviv are mass killers, war criminals. The Israeli Zionists need no help to massacre the Palestinian people, they don’t even have air raid shelters to save their babies.
But the US will not save Israel, there is no NATO left to do the job for the USA, Israel would be rubble, another Gaza. Abbas and the PLO betrayed the people, that is why they support Hamas, their own people, their children.
“the Palestinians didn’t organize back in the 1940’s” Very true. They expected the Arab armies to take care of Israel. Instead Israel army defeated the Arabs. Now combine that with Jordon taking the West Bank. and Palestinians got screwed. And here is the problem, the Palestinians are still looking for outside help to solve their problems. Once Israel left Gaza they had a chance to build a nation. But instead they choose to build weapons to attack Israel and push the peace process in the region back by a decade.
All you do is to make facts to fit your narrative.
Why is Israel looking for outside help, they are a nuclear power and the US funds the military and they do have more millionaires per capita than the Americans and still need financial aid?
Does that make sense to you?
And where are all the weapons Hamas has?
There is no “peace process”. The US and Israel never intended to allow the Palestinians to have a state. It was naive of everyone to think a “two-state” solution was workable – not with Zionists fanatics running Israel.
All the US wanted was to get the Arab states to agree to recognize Israel and then everyone would have forgotten about the Palestinians.
Hamas made sure that didn’t happen. And rightly so.
Once Israel left Gaza they had a chance to build a nation.
Utter nonsense.
Can a person get locked up in Jail in USA for saying they hope Israel loses?
I wouldn’t be surprised. But if that’s the case, I’ll be there with you. Yes, the Zionists in Israel need to lose and be driven out of Palestine. I don’t see any way Palestine ever gets its freedom otherwise.
Of course, many Israelis probably won’t be driven out. There will be some sort of negotiated resolution once the Israeli state is militarily defeated. Russia, China and the UN will see to that. But hopefully the Zionists will be driven out. I’m just not sure how that is achieved without a lot of non-Zionist Israelis being forced out as well or fleeing on their own – which would be a smart move.
It’s not a smart idea to put your future in the hands of an unstable country ruled by fanatics. Look at Ukraine. For that matter, look at the US. Jews in Israel would be well advised to reconsider whether they really need to live in past history.
“Russia, China and the UN will see to that” while Arabs and other Muslims sit and watch?
Russia has problems with NATO, not with Israel. Israel supported Kiev regime not so actively as Germany, US, UK, France and most of other NATO countries.
China is also not so enthusiastic to act on behalf of Muslims. UN is a joke.
Russia doesn’t want problems with Israel. But if Israel causes problems for Syria or Iran, Russia will do what is necessary. In the case of Iran, it will supply weapons, air defenses (to the degree Iran needs them, as they have their own version of the S-300) and intelligence. In the case of Syria, it only has to supply the necessary air defenses and give Syria the green light to use them against Israel and/or the US.
But if Israel starts waving nukes around, Russia and China will respond. Neither wants to see the Middle East nuked. Both have considerable economic interests there. Turkey and Pakistan will also probably respond. Pakistan has already offered Turkey nukes (because Pakistan’s missiles can’t reach Israel.)
If Israel uses nukes against Iran, hardly Russia or any other country, because of this, will use nukes against Israel. Russia will help Iran but there are certain limits. That’s why such an important and independent country as Iran should have it’s own nukes. It will restrain potential aggressors and therefore make the world safer.
I’ll say again that Russia will not need to use nukes against Israel. Their conventional warhead Kinzhal and Zircon missiles will do the job nicely. Same applies to Iran’s hypersonic missiles, although those are new so Iran probably doesn’t have enough. Iran’s other missiles may be sufficient if they don’t expend them first against US assets in the region.
Iran does not need nukes, does not want nukes, and will not get nukes. This has been clear by Iran for over 25 years. Also, the mere impression that Iran was trying to get nukes has caused unlimited aggression against it from the US, the EU and Israel. Imagine if Iran actually did try. Your suggestion makes zero sense.
Nuclear weapons are only useful as a deterrent if 1) you have a delivery system, and 2) you have enough of them to be a credible threat to a nuclear-armed enemy. Iran has made it clear they have no interest in trying to outdo Israel, let alone the US, in terms of a nuclear arsenal.
Iran’s real deterrent is its large missile arsenal of conventional warheads – over 3,000, of which perhaps 500-750 can hit Israel. They don’t need nukes. What they need is for Israel to be disarmed of its nukes. If Israel threatens to use nukes on Iran, Russia and China and perhaps others will take out Israel’s missiles first. No one wants a nuclear war in the Middle East.
We’re done here.
“It is unclear where Tel Aviv expects the people to flee.” Is the writer blind? Deaf? It is clear that Tel Aviv expects Palestinians to flee through the Rafah Crossing, then into the Sinai desert to be housed in tents, and then to die. What is disheartening to me about my fellow American citizens is just 68% say they are for a cease fire. Now, 68% sounds like a lot. However, it means 32% are OK with the deaths of Palestinian children, attacks on hospitals, water and electricity cut off, medicines cut off. Genocide, now ethnic cleansing. That is a lot of people OK with genocide.The UN needs to be ended. It is a toothless, useless organization. Where are the UN peacekeepers to stop the carnage? Could it be the UN is afraid that Israel will kill more of their people? Where are the countries in the UN? They are all cowards who fear being called antisemitic if they criticize the Israeli Zionist administration. When it is over, perhaps 3-4 years from this year, no one will remember, just like the memory of what Israel did during Cast Lead and Protective Edge has been forgotten. Nothing will be done. Nothing. Bless the righteous Jews, the Jewish Voice for Peace, the Rabbis who know the difference between Judaism and Zionism. Judaism is religious in nature. Zionism is not. That needs to be made crystal clear.
And no one is reporting on this:
US Capitol police clash with protesters calling for Gaza war ceasefire
Police use pepper spray and fire projectiles containing chemical irritants on ‘non-violent’ protesters in Washington, DC.
Police in riot gear have clashed with demonstrators calling for a ceasefire in the Israel-Gaza war outside the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee in Washington, DC.
Officers pushed and pulled the protesters to try to remove them from the area, at one point shoving one protester down a staircase leading to the entrance. Police also used pepper spray and fired projectiles containing chemical irritants.
Demonstrator Dani Noble said people came to the DNC to peacefully call on Democratic Party leadership to support a ceasefire in Gaza.
Instead, “we were met by police pulling on folks that are disabled or have chronic illnesses, pulling people to the ground in riot gear”, Noble said.
“It is shameful the way that nonviolent protesters and members of our community were met with violence tonight. It is absolutely shameful,” he added.
Capitol Police said approximately 150 people were “illegally and violently protesting”. It said six officers were treated for injuries, ranging from cuts to being pepper sprayed and punched.
“One person has been arrested for assault on an officer,” Capitol Police said on social media.
The protest organisers rejected allegations that the demonstrators were violent.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/16/us-capitol-police-clash-with-protesters-calling-for-gaza-war-ceasefire
I have been reading about that. Folks, this country is nearly full on fascism.
All NATO is such. Probably, the elites decided it is the only way to mobilize The West for the crusade against Russia and China. They are still dreaming about unipolar world with themselves on the top of it.
Liberty,Fraternity,Equality are words from the past that are meaningless now.
The multi-polar world is a reality. Russia, China, India, Brazil, Iran, Egypt and Ethiopia need not to love each other. Good enough that they agree about the rules upon which the world order should be based. Those rules are different from the rules which US oligarchy is trying to impose upon other countries. BRICS offer a more fair world order and it is obvious to the majority of the humankind, so, eventually, BRICS will prevail.
Meanwhile,China is getting ready to take Taiwan,as it already done to Tibet.Egypt oppresses its Copts,and expelled its Jews long ago.
I hope you are right. It may be our last chance before Doomsday
I just fear Russia, China, and the US dreaming the same, together, with no resistance.
Russia and China are okay with the peaceful coexistence and respecting the international laws. That’s why many countries are thinking about joining BRICS. BRICS, unlike NATO and EU, is an alliance of equals where no one is dominating. They don’t use “sanctions” and other dirty tricks against each other.
The elites are losing the people though. Here in the USA, the military can’t bribe enough mercenaries to join any more. Western Europe’s militaries appear to be in even worse shape. Just like Ukraine can’t raise enough men; NATO will be a disaster area if they ever try.
This wasn’t used against Antifa and BLM much. But the regime was aided by those groups.
We better get used to such happenings. It lies in everyones future.
The US is halfway into the toilet already. When we slide beneath the lid, no one inside (or outside) will even notice. I’ve given up any hope that Biden’s gang will get off the pot and take any action against their corporate sponsors. We are officially in the tank for war crimes, ethnic cleansing, and perhaps a mini-holocaust (though 2 million may not be so mini).
Zionism is based upon Judaist fairy tales about “ancient Israel”. All religions have their own sacred fairy tales. The difference between Christianity and Judaism is that Christianity is teaching to treat all the people as equal. That’s why those of us who don’t accept Christian fairy tales are still believing themselves to be Christian. Christian idea of the equality of all people is the only ideology which can help the humankind to survive.
It is too bad for humanity that Jesus is long gone.
Meanwhile,many times people who profess to be Christian,behave in the most un Christian ways. The Crusaders slaughtered Jews and Muslims with glee,Orthodox priests harangued for pogroms,a Catholic priest generated the 1092 Limerick pogrom. Russia restricted Jews to the Pales of settlement and practiced kidnapping of little Jewish boys into the army for purpose of deracination. The conquests in the New world,african slavery.Ect ect ect.
You are repeating the lies.
In the New World, pagans were enslaved as (I assume) a means of eventual conversion. Even Russia did it here. None of the Abrahamic religions are really tolerant.
Jews are lucky they didn’t experience what was done in Europe, the banning of cousin marriage way out (beyond the 8th degree, then just 8th degree.) It made groups dissolve. No secret Jews could endure under that.
“…what was done in Europe, the banning of cousin marriage…”
While the Puritans came to New England to escape religious persecution, I like to think that proponents of cousin-marriage fled to the American South and maintained the practise.
The reason people say that is just because fewer immigrants came to the South for a time. So, the population is more homogeneous and older.
Yankee WASPs were in power but are now rare.
Also, certain people want the American ethnicity extinct, and you’re not going to even really find that distinct ethnicity outside the South or the Midwest or a few other locations. If they ceased being “inbred,” they’d marry others and cease being distinct as an ethnicity.
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However, oligarchies are preserved by intermarriage. So, South Carolina’s aristocracy did intermarry one another and worship their ancestry a bit. And I’m partly descended from that, as are many people.
You see actual inbreeding in European and other royal lines, also occasionally among Jews since that’s the topic.
If you want a slave race or a productive, malleable, and peaceful proletariat, you have individuals who marry others. If you want conflict and oligarchy and control, you intermarry within a small group, as the MidEast does.
The South had slavery. So, I know a little about this stuff but not much.
You joke, but Yes, that is accurate. “The South” was primarily settled by immigrants (or exiles, at least economic ones) from the “celtic fringe” of great britain; a very different breed culturally, socially and economically than the settlers of New England, who came in organized communities, usually based on religion, and were in general relatively prosperous and educated. Travellers to the south from New England in the late 1700s remarked about how backward, ignorant, lazy, belligerent, and poor southern whites were. Thomas Sowell has some excellent youtube videos discussing the North/South cultural divide in the early years of the USA
I answered this your comment. Maybe my answer will appear tomorrow. Sometimes it takes quite a long time.
Ty. I hope I didn’t trouble you.
Yeah sorry about that, all terrible so does that give permission for still more crimes?
I do not believe this can go on for much longer much less two or three years. If the mass of countries and human does not rise up and stop the killing I don’t believe we and the planet have a future.
Zionism is a political movement,to create a place where Jews of all religious views can live more safely.
In a land that was already settled and populated.
Human populations were much lower 100 years ago-Zionists PURCHASED land to build settlements.
Is part of the story, but if you continued, you might mention the terrorism.
Regardless, Muslims wouldn’t treat non equally. But you can’t destroy Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, etc. just to put your tribe over them… Or you can’t expect me to support all that. Just pay a jizya and relax.
“…where Jews of all religious views…”
That sounds contradictory. What do you mean ?
Judaism is a religion. Individual members of the Jewish ethnic group may practice that religion, some other religion, or no religion at all.
Judaism is a religion. Individual members of the Jewish ethnic group may practice that religion, some other religion, or no religion at all.
Mmm. Can’t say I like when an ethnicity and a religion co-merge such that one cannot be discerned from another, it creates the possibility of contradictory nomenclature.
Not quite the “married bachelor” conundrum, but an “atheist Jewish person” is near equally nonsensical.
I’d rather “Israelite” as an ethnic descriptor, as it is more socio-regional than “Jewish” which entirely references Judaism as its core tenet.
Worked with a nice girl who identified ethnically as Assyrian (and spoke the language among three others) and Assyria hasn’t existed in a real long time. But it suggests a useful social / geographical “origin point”.
The ethnicity and religion didn’t co-merge, they diverged — some people of the ethnicity stopped practicing the religion, but retained the ethnic identity.
It’s no big deal. Not all Jews practice Judaism any more than all Irishmen are members of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.
The ethnicity and religion didn’t co-merge, they diverged — some people of the ethnicity stopped practicing the religion, but retained the ethnic identity.
It’s no big deal. Not all Jews practice Judaism any more than all Irishmen are members of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.
The ethnicity and religion didn’t co-merge, they diverged — some people of the ethnicity stopped practicing the religion, but retained the ethnic identity.
It’s no big deal. Not all Jews practice Judaism any more than all Irishmen are members of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.
It’s implied in the name, which is my annoyance at this situation. Like someone saying “Well, I was born in Kansas, have US citizenship, and have lived in Arizona my whole life – but I’m not American.”
To that person AND the one who says “Oh, I’m Jewish but don’t practise, follow, or identify with Judaism” I would say the same to both :
“What in the actual f**k are you talking about ?”
I’m anti-Woke because I’m anti-Political-Correctness, I’ll happily honor pronouns and someone’s self-identification, but I staunchly reserve the right to call out stupid s**t that muddles language and comprehension thereof.
The religion known as “Judaism” sprang from an ethnic group, not vice versa.
Your objection is like objecting to someone saying “I’m an Arab, but not a Muslim,” or “I’m a Persian, but not a Zoroastrian.” Some Arabs are Muslims, some aren’t. Hardly any Persian Zoroastrians remain.
A place where Jews can live safely and Gentiles are in constant peril.
Christians and Moslems taught them well.
Evangelicals believe this is God’s work. Old whites in the US are obsessed with the Holocaust also. They’d support almost anything.
It’s tough for me to know what to hope for in this conflict, because the Palestinians are in a position equivalent of Hindus and Buddhists setting themselves on fire in protest. They really are a “nation of martyrs.” Their strategy is to defeat strength with pity and beauty. If they can endure and not be driven out, they might win. Their population is expanding in number.
They live in an open air prison. It’s difficult to contemplate. So many Muslims are united against this. But the Arab leaders seem to just want it over with. They want the Palestinians out and done with. But what will Israel do next if it wins here? Syria and Lebanon are next?
Evangelical whites; not “all” whites. Fanatical Evangelicals are a breed apart; like the Haredi, and the Wahhabi Muslims; insane, brain dead, innately evil scumbags that the world would be much better off without.
I’ve met a few Latin Evangelicals. I don’t know how significant that is.
If there is one glimmer of hope, it’s that partisan deadlock has managed to halt (at least for now) US funding of the proxy war in Ukraine and the ethnic cleansing in Gaza! https://apnews.com/article/biden-budget-mike-johnson-congress-shutdown-527c15d86de31470d1d659387912e66c
Brian Christopher Boyenger a US sniper of the 101st Airborne Division in 2014 was in the Donbass city of Mariupol. He was there assisting Nazi’s with the ethnic cleansing of Donbass for Obama and Biden. He spent his time there embedded with Nazi battalions “Azov” and right sector located on the frontline in Mariupol where they were continuing the genocide. He must be arrested and tried for mass murder.
I would like to know his history of trips to Ukraine, was he there in February 2014, and did he shoot police and civilians in the Maidan?
The evidence says yes he did………..On February 14, 2018, Russian news agency RIA Novosti released an article “Shoot at Everybody on Maidan: Georgian Snipers Tell about Masterminds”. The article involves interviews with Tristan Tsitelashvili, Koba Nergadze and Alexander Revazishvili. Nergadze and Revazishvili recollect the details of their arrival in Kiev, receiving firearms and instructions.
They note that they opened fire on the protesters from Hotel Ukraina and Conservatoire upon the instructions of Mikheil Saakashvili, Mamuka Mamulashvili, as well as Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, Andriy Parubiy and Chairman of the National Security and Defense Committee, Sergei Pashinski. They also claim in the interview that American instructor, Brian Christopher Boyenger also participated in the developments.
Boyenger, a native of South Carolina whose active military service spanned four years from 2006-2010, said he made the decision to join the current conflict out of solidarity with Ukraine, which he cited as a key US ally. He was in Kiev in February 2014 and ran a crew of up to 50 NATO Mercenaries for US/NATO who shot police and civilians in the Maidan. Prior to officially joining the battalion “Azov”, Boyenger spent five months in 2015 as a volunteer instructor for other fascist battalions, teaching Kiev’s worst elements essential combat skills.
WOW
Sensational confessions of two Georgians:
Alexander Revazishvili: “We had an assignment to shoot both the Berkut police and the protesters, which shocked me”. “We were paid a thousand dollars, and promised another 5 thousand later”.
Koba Nergadze: “We went to Maidan on Mikhail Saakashvili’s personal order.”, “We were met by Andrei Parubiy.”, “We had to provoke chaos to make people fight against the Berkut.”, “I’m a soldier, I can’t disobey the order”.
Once at Maidan the Georgians met Brian Christopher Boyenger, an American military instructor. Brian Christopher Boyenger a US sniper in the US 101st Airborne Division ran a NATO covert operation out of the the third floor of the Ukraina Hotel, which at the time was locked down by the Right Sector (a Nazi Paramilitary). This NATO covert operation was responsible for the sniper fire mass murder of Maidan protesters and Berkut Police.
Brian Christopher Boyenger: “There’s always been a long tradition of American volunteers taking part in the settlement of conflicts in other countries”.
After the Maidan the leaders of two right wing Nazi organisations were rewarded with control of four ministries. For example, Andriy Parubiy, co-founder of the fascist Social National Party (SNPU), which later changed its name to Svoboda, became the new top commander of the National Defense and Security Council. (covering the military, police, courts and intelligence apparatus). The CIA renamed the organisation to “Svoboda,” meaning “Freedom,” to make it more acceptable to the American people.
Dmytro Yarosh, Right Sector commander, was second-in-command of the National Defense and Security Council. This is the man who organized and ran Ukraine’s February 22nd Coup in Kiev, and the May 2nd Massacre of Its Opponents in Odessa. Yarosh’s teams carried out the most violent operations for the CIA in Ukraine. They were responsible for the atrocities committed in the Donbass, for the crimes against humanity.
Oleh Tyahnybok, co founder of the SNPU and currently the party leader of Svoboda, A self confessed Nazi. He opposed the introduction of the Russian language as the second official state language; called for the lustration of former communist officials. He also proposed recognition of the fighting role of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and Ukrainian Insurgent Army during World War II.
Barack Obama had chosen to spearhead Nazi’s into positions of authority in Kiev. They took their orders on crucial military and foreign policy issues including the deployment of troops directed against the Russian federation, from the the US State Department, the Pentagon and NATO.
From fabricating an “invasion,” to the claims of “threatened” lives, to the labeling of Russians as “subhuman, ”Yatsenyuk the US assigned Prime Minister after the coup recited fully the script of Nazism used to justify its various historical crimes against humanity. Barack Obama’s forces in eastern Ukraine were not fighting an “invasion,” but constituted an invading force themselves, making incursions into eastern Ukraine and holding territory only through unmitigated brutality against local populations clearly collaborating with armed self-defense forces intent on resisting Barack Obama’s Nazism.
Barack (We Tortured Some Folks) Obama, Joe (What day is it) Biden and Victoria (Eff the EU) Nuland must be arrested and stand trial for their many many crimes against humanity of which the Maidan mass murder was one example of a huge number of war crimes.
Barack (I’m good at killin’) Obama. And yes to Nuland facing the music. “Yats is our man” Victoria Nuland
“…This NATO covert operation was responsible for the sniper fire mass murder of Maidan protesters and Berkut Police.”
Mmm. I heard it was a Lone Gunman.
Doom, where is this from?
UNZ
I don’t know what that is.
UNZ.COM I guess Thomas removed my earlier reply/link?
I got it. Bookmarked. Thank you friend.
Who funded them? NED? NATO? CIA? John Brennen, Victoria Nuland, Barry Obama?
In the beginning, the battalions were paid for by the same oligarch who was Zelensky’s benefactor. Ihor Kolomoyskyy
But almost immediately after the maiden, the CIA was training them in the US.
So Kolomoysky preceeded Nuland, Brennan, Biden & co.?
Nah, probably conspired.
My comment is stuck in moderation so I can’t edit but “ Ihor Kolomoyskyy, Ukrainian-Israeli oligarch was how he was described. Weird that he funded nazis
Yes, on inspection the whole Nazi/Jew mythology becomes problematic. But am I understanding that he personally funded the “brown shirt” contingent that the American sniper was attached to?
I can’t say that there is a direct link. But investigations did reveal that it was not police or the administration’s.
I meant I can’t say specifically about the sniper, but he did fund the neonazi battalions.
OK, and clearly they were the Maidan provocateurs.
Both Andrii Telizhenko (who had involvement in the coup) https://thegrayzone.com/2023/07/13/bidens-corruption-led-to-ukraines-destruction-fmr-kiev-diplomat/ and Ihor Kolomoysky are sanctioned by the US. Which makes anything they could reveal now disregarded as criminals’ lies. Pretty convenient, if you ask me.
Interesting bit is that he is an Israeli too. But funded neoNazis. From J Post:
Kolomoyskyy is former president of the European Council of Jewish Communities (ECJC) as well as co-founder of the European Jewish Union. He is considered a keen supporter of Ukraine’s Jewish community.
Kolomoyskyy co-founded one of Ukraine’s biggest banks – PrivatBank – in the early 1990s, and is considered one of the richest men in Ukraine. According to Forbes, Kolomoyskyy’s net worth as of 2021 is $1.2 billion.
Check this, the archive link is the investigative study:
Kolomoysky Owns Burisma Holdings
The real person who was the benefactor to, and the boss of, Vice President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, at the Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings, was not the CEO of Burisma Holdings, Mykola Zlochevsky.
Instead, it was Ihor Kolomoysky…
Shortly after the Obama Administration’s Ukrainian coup, on March 2, 2014, Kolomoysky, who supported Yanukovych’s overthrow, was appointed the governor of Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine. Hunter Biden, with no experience in the industry or region, would join Kolomoysky’s Burisma Holdings two months later, on May 12, 2014.
A 2012 study of Burisma Holdings done in Ukraine by the AntiCorruption Action Centre (ANTAC), an investigative nonprofit co-funded by American billionaire George Soros and the U.S. State Department, found the valid owner of Burisma Holdings was none other than Ukrainian billionaire-oligarch Ihor Kolomoysky. https://archive.ph/HYr3k
https://www.kanekoa.news/p/how-one-ukrainian-billionaire-funded
thanks, Dread. Amazing how tight the circle is.
It makes one wonder how involved Israel may have been in the Ukraine project too. Especially since J Post was hailing his attachments to Jewish causes (while funding nazis).
Am I being blind censored? Some comments seem to be missing that appear in my profile.
I think I’m getting yours. Lets see. Is Biden’s centrality to the Maidan circle of corrupt oligarchs the reason why he can’t let go now?
Yes we seem to be solely communicating in disqus w/o comments appearing on the actual site.
My opinion is yes. Plus what he held in the thinktank was highly classified documents of intelligence on Ukraine. CNN reported this early on and it was never touched again. Those documents were held during all of the Trump administration. I’m no fan of Trump, but what Biden secreted, was it intentional and was there something in it Trump could’ve made hay out of? And Turley said they were found much earlier than Biden alleged snd moved around? https://jonathanturley.org/2023/10/16/new-evidence-may-destroy-bidens-defense-in-his-classified-documents-case/
The coup.
Disqus issue. You’re on the site atm, btw.
Yeah I figured it out early.
Is he the one who purchased the mansion in Florida for Zelensky?
Ask good old Vicky, she knows all about it, Biden should also have the details, he too was involved.
Ask good old Vicky, she knows all about it, Biden should also have the details, he too was involved.
Reminds me of the line that so many in combat of various types like to use, “I was only doing my job, following orders”. Does that make it right or give you a pass? Well, that’s above my pay grade to say. In a way, being a sniper is just another name for a paid hitman, along the lines of the mafia except in most cases, a hitman for the mob knows his intended victim while a sniper employed by the government oftentimes doesn’t just someone that the government has determined is an enemy.
A man who enjoys the job of sniper is one demented person.
Since Nurnberg, following illegal orders is a war crime, that goes for all Israeli pilots, it includes young, drafted soldiers.
If the orders are illegal.
Bombing defenseless civilians is illegal, a war crime. There is no military target to bomb, they lied about the hospitals being military targets. Name one military target in Gaza that they bombed, just one.
The Zionists massacre unarmed Palestinian civilians with bombs, they kill newborn children, infants and toddlers in the rubble, letting them die a painful tortures death all alone, without any comfort. How can you defend and justify so much evil???? The Palestinians don’t even have air raid shelters, not even their hospitals are safe. You are complicit by defending war crimes.
Mass murder is what you support, not an abstract genocide, no it is the mass murder of a nation including new born infants and infants and toddlers dying slow torturous deaths under the rubble, add Ukraine also. That is EVIL on the level with Hitler.
I read reports about $$ paid to demonstrators by the Nuland people.
This isn’t any kind of surprise. The Israeli government wants to get rid of all the Palestinians. They really don’t care how, dead or alive, it’s all the same in Tel Aviv.
Maybe it’s time for Bibi to ask the US for the cash to put in a large order to Krupp.
Jimmy Dore gives some insight into this mess.
https://youtu.be/R_ojjTGJz7w?feature=shared
“in Gaza”. No it is in sea in international waters.
It’s off the shores of Gaza, just like the U.S. has off shore oil wells. Our oil wells are not considered to belong to the International Community.
There is no excuse, regardless of where it is, Jimmy Dore is reliable, he beats MSM anytime.
You are supporting mass murder, real war crimes, and you must know it. Be honest with yourself.
It is in territorial Gaza waters, that is really old news, it has not been talked about that much. The same is true for Israeli waters.
It’s not international. 200 miles is how far you go out, I think?
Well, no it’s not. And Golan Heights and West Bank also have gas – all of which was stolen land by the Zionist Nationalist Israeli Jews.
Maybe, Gazans would have been better off developing those natural resources, ya think?
With what?
All the money they squandered on those good for nothing tunnels.
Israel controls the ocean off the coasts of Gaza and restricts where the Palestinians can even fish.
Well, that happens when you consistently express the desire to commit genocide against your neighbor.
Not all Israelis express such a desire. Some of them are quite okay for living in peace with Arabs.
Well all of Hamas does and that’s all ya need.
Still Hamas is better than Zionists because Hamas, evil as it is, is fighting against the colonizers defending Arab land. Zionists are killing Arab women and children for the purpose of increasing Israeli lebensraum.
BS.
You mean like the ethnic cleansing that is going on right now in Gaza and also the West Bank?
Hamas broke the ceasefire that was in effect before 10-7.
They could stop everything by returning hostages and pledging co-existence, but not.
Well, when you torture people with severe deprivation, it is only natural to expect that at some point they are going to retaliate. The Israelis don’t want co-existence either. They want it all for themselves.
That’s just BS.
“When the truth is ugly, lies are beautiful.”
Prove your statements then,
what “severe deprivation” warrants genocide as the natural reaction?
There’s plenty of articles out there on the deprivation the Palestinians have suffered. Do your own research. You could start by reading articles on http://www.ifamericansknew.org.
Not the question, stop dodging, show the “deprivations” that justify GENOCIDE, do that please.
I don’t buy your view that the Palestinians are committing GENOCIDE.
They are chanting “From the river to the sea”, what does that mean to you, exactly?
The Hamas charter declares it (the elimination of Israel) as their goal and what would you call the massacre of innocent men, women children and infants on Oct 7?
Insipid denials in the face of Hamas’s repeated statements will not win your case.
Going back to the 1970’s the Likud Party Platform had in it, “From the river to the sea, Israeli sovereignty.” What does that mean to you exactly? Netanyahu and the LIkud Party supported Hamas to be the Palestinian ruling authority, knowing full well that Hamas did not want a two state solution where as the PLO did. What does that tell you?
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/11/19/craig-murray-activating-the-genocide-convention/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=75858fd3-5eee-4f83-a496-d7f540a02e8a
You are dodging again.
What does it mean that Hamas preaches Israeli genocide, chants the phrase that symbolizes the total destruction of Israel and acted in accordance with those beliefs on 10-7?
History is history, what is the situation NOW?
Is Hamas asking for dialogue, a peaceful resolution or are they continuing to advocate for total annihilation of Israel? You can run from that truth, but you cannot hide.
Hamas has no intention to change direction. Hamas wants to ex term inate Israel, leaving Israel with no other choice but to do the same.
There is no point in arguing with you. You are incapable of looking at the history of the conflict. Hamas wants to exchange prisoners with Israel. Israel has way more prisoners than Hamas has. Netanyahu is the one not willing to negotiate with Hamas, the Hamas that he supported in the past. Netanyahu wants to drive the Palestinian people out of Gaza and the West Bank. Take a look at the maps from 1947 up until today. Those changes in the map tell the tale of just who wants to push who into the sea.
Bottom line, there was a ceasefire before 10-7, HAMAS, not Israel, chose to restart armed conflict.
Now they want a ceasefire, probably not gonna happen. And so, it goes …
Give it a rest, stokr. I have better things to do than argue with you.
Just facts Mary, I know they’re tough for you.
As I have said to other critics of Israel you are wasting your time and energy argueing with these idiotic cretins whom maintain that Israel is great and good. Which once upon a time was said about the US incorrectly.
it says to me that Bibi and his party are lying pieces of shit.
“Nobody can fish ! That’ll show ’em !”
CCD, Striker Ace – Disney oughta get you to play Reed Richards, your ability to stretch to reach a nonsense conclusion is m.f.-ing EPIC.
Hamas will not stop preaching and working for genocide, end of story.
Be careful not to end a story before the last chapter is written.
The “last chapter” (in your lifetime) is being written now.
Go to the sea and swim.
Murderers, thieves, liars, war criminals and scum. When will Israel be held accountable for its crimes against humanity? They can’t hide behind the Holocaust anymore.
Israel is a specific nation. It developed from a totalitarian religious sect. It is kind of tabu to talk about that but Ashkenazi ethnos developed from a closed religious community. Their mentality is different from the mentality of Germans or Catholic Slavs among whom they lived most of their history. It is nobody’s fault. It just happened so. It would be helpful if the politicians start to think how to cope with this problem rather than use it for their own benefit.
Hezbollah’s Al-Shifa ‘Revenge’; Carpet-Bombing In Northern Israel Watch video here: https://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/world-news/hezbollahs-al-shifa-revenge-carpet-bombing-in-northern-israel-watch-101700120843597.html
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