Israel’s Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu on Sunday said that dropping a nuclear bomb on the Gaza Strip was an option for Israel and claimed there are no innocent civilians in the enclave.
According to The Times of Israel, Eliyahu said in a radio interview that dropping a nuke is “one of the possibilities” and said there is no “such thing as uninvolved civilians in Gaza.” He also called for the expulsion of Palestinians from the enclave.
“They can go to Ireland or deserts, the monsters in Gaza should find a solution by themselves,” he said. Eliyahu added that the Gaza Strip doesn’t have the right to exist and that anyone waving a Hamas or Palestinian flag “shouldn’t continue living on the face of the earth.”
Eliyahu is a member of the extremist Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power) party, which is part of the coalition that formed the government led by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. In response to Eliyahu’s comments, Netanyahu suspended him from cabinet meetings, resisting calls from opposition leader Yair Lapid to fire him.
“Minister Amihai Eliyahu’s statements are not based in reality,” Netanyahu said, according to his office. Despite the massive child casualty rate in Gaza, the Israeli leader claimed Israel is “operating in accordance with the highest standards of international law to avoid harming innocents.”
Besides being incredibly provocative and genocidal, Eliyahu’s comments also appear to confirm that Israel has nuclear weapons. Israel has a nuclear arsenal but has a policy of ambiguity, not officially recognizing that it exists. The US also maintains this policy regarding Israeli nukes.
Isn’t it the worst kept secret that they have nukes?
Israel in my opinion is the most likely nation to use a nuclear weapon in the future. Israel may look invincible right now but long term has serious problems. If we look at how Israel performed against its enemies in conventional war , the trend is very worrisome.
1948. Nascent israel defeats combined armies of Egypt, Syria , Jordan , Iraq and Lebanon ( 5 states). Gains lots of land.
1967 . Israel blitzkriegs combined armies of Jordan , Syria , Egypt in 6 days ( 3 states). Gains lots of land.
1973 : israel defeats armies of Syria and Egypt (2 states) but not before losing land to Syria. Eventually returns land to Egypt for peace.
1982 : israel invades Lebanon ( 1 state) beats PLO but withdraws back under pressure from Hezbolla. Does not gain land.
2006 : stalemate with Hezbollah ( 1 sub state actor). No change in land.
2023 : israel invades Gaza to defeat Hamas ( 1sub state actor under siege ) . Needs US carrier threat to keep Hezbollah out.
The trend is clear. Israel is still winning its wars with its neighbors , but they are progressively harder to win and against weaker opponents. Eventually, Israel will find itself on the losing end of a war and the nukes will then come out. Probably not in my lifetime, but certainly in that of my children.
The West better push for a real peace while Israel is ahead and the Arabs are weak.
I sure hope that you are correct about the nukes cause it scares the hell out of me… Forgive me for any repetition. Thank you, very much for laying it out so well…
Hey, D-V. Wanted to mention (as an aside) that I appreciate your attention to the real hazard – the massive nuclear threat that both the [NATOkraine vs. Russian Federation], and the [Apartheid State of Israel LLC vs. People Living In A Mad Max Movie Set], pose to the entire civilised world.
There’s a tendency of people to think a nuclear exchange can’t happen because it hasn’t happened – forgetting the litany of times it almost DID happen, but for a couple thoughtful Soviets and some remarkable dumb luck.
You’re not crazy. Nuclear arsenals are exactly as dangerous and scary as you / we think they are.
I don’t see peace happening with the MIC being so lucrative and leaders being psychopathic morons.
I’m not trying to puff up the IDF or anything like that, but bear in mind that Israeli victories have been against other states while encountering serious resistance in fourth-generation warfare. Same as the US. Saddam Hussein was a pushover, but Iraqi insurgencies were another matter.
In fourth-generation warfare, groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are actually stronger than states like Egypt, Syria, Iran, or whoever.
You are correct they are stronger because the state nations hold back. Hamas can defeat Israel because Israel is restrained from unleashing its fire power by international pressure.
Are you kidding? What do you think Israel is doing in Gaza? There is nothing restrained by the Nets administration, and, Joe lets them tell him to “f*ck off” concerning a humanitarian pause. They just don’t give a sh*t about any country or its leader. They will not stop until all Palestinians are: 1) dead, 2) exiled to the Sinai desert to die. International pressure is doing nothing. Nothing. Do you remember Cast Lead? Protective Edge? What was done? Nothing. Besides, we have something like 12 military bases in Israel that we would like to keep there. There is a reason Israel is called a U.S. aircraft carrier.
Do you really expect no response to a pogrom?
Yes, Israel is holding back. They could inflict substantial more damage to Gaza. They could, with little effort, drop 50,000 shells a day into Gaza. They could flatten the entire area in a two or three weeks. But they are not going to do that.
I’m not suggesting that there’s an Israeli “hold back.” I’m saying that (at least when fighting a vastly dominant foe) non-state actors can be inherently stronger (or at least vastly more resilient) than state actors because non-state actors are engaging an asymmetrical warfare. Defeat the state actor unconditionally and the state itself is destroyed.; but the non-state actor disappears back into the overall population and comes back to fight later. It’s Mao’s metaphor of fish in the sea.
Sorry if I gave a misimpression. My point would have been clearer if I had used the phrase asymmetrical warfare.
” before losing land to Syria” Israel recaptured all that “lost land” in the Golan. Hezbolla came into existence after 1982 PLO/Israel war. They had nothing to do with Israel decision to leave Lebanon.
Up to and including 1973 Israel wars were against nations. Now the wars are against military units of as you say sub states. Different type of wars.
Will Israel use their nuclear bombs if their existence is threaten? Sure. But these sub states armies are not a threat to Israel existences. The only nation that has proclaimed their desire to destroy Israel is Iran. Will Israel nuke Iran if Iran gets closed to having nuclear weapons? That might happen.
PS You forgot the 1956 war.
100,000+ missiles owned by Hezbollah are a very real,existential threat. That is why the western fleets are there -to prevent a situation whereby Israel must use nukes.
They are a thread but not an existential threat. How many of those 150,000 rockets would get fired? And once fired there are no more. Meanwhile Israel guns and planes can keep on going. Israel has millions of shells in storage and 1ens of thousands of air plane bombs.
Decision to leave lebanon and abandon the border buffer had everything to do with Hezbollah’s guerilla war against Israel. It was just not worth the trouble anymore.
Think of Israel as Napoleonic France, beating multiple enemies against numerical odds thanks to better military. But eventually sapped by guerilla war ( peninsular campaign for Napoleon , hezbolla and hamas for Israel ) and eventually succumbing to numbers. The biggest difference is the USA , Israel’s deus ex machina. France did not have that.
Yes, it is! You remind me of why I hate “ambiguity” and love clarity! He’s telling the TRUTH. He is the Israeli “Heritage” Minister. Let the man say his truth about Israel! I would say he’s an expert! Wouldn’t you?
The US remains the only nation in history that has fired nukes in warfare. The US govt. professes repeatedly to be the ever-faithful and unconditional ally to the State of Israel. A “suspended” high Israeli official has put nukes vs Gaza on the policy table, without being discredited and dismissed. The math here is obvious, and frightening. The Israeli govt. has long since become what they beheld during WWII, in terms of genocidal policy. It is very close to emulating its main ally in terms of a Final Solution to Gaza et al. The only question: Will Israel con its most staunch ally into performing that task for them?
If Gazans had stayed in Gaza,this situation would not exist.
This is the kind of insane government we’ve been paying for with our tax dollars, ladies and gentleman. Your taxes at work! Nevermind we might destory humankind in the process.
Hey, look at the crap we get for leadership here in the states.
I have had about enough of this madness. The madness and arrogance is beyond belief. The US and Israel better cool this sh-t down and soon.
If Israel is openly stating it, it must mean
it’s the table…
These people are truly insane.
And who started this mess-Hamas!
Wrong — Angry kids practiced with rocks against Israeli tanks occupying and stealing their towns and farms. Now those kids are are grown and using black market weapons that burn tanks like tar paper shacks.
No, Balfour did.
The mess was there long long before Hamas ever existed. Hamas just did something that Israel has been doing for decades.
“ Even before Oct. 7, this year (2023) was one of the most violent years in Palestine in more than a decade. At least 247 Palestinians—including 47 children—had been killed by Israeli soldiers and settlers before the end of September. During the same period, Israeli settlers launched over 800 attacks on Palestinians and Palestinian-owned property. Additionally, over 1,100 Palestinians had been forcibly displaced from their homes.
These actions occurred in a context where Israeli land confiscation, mass arrest campaigns, military attacks on Palestinian cities, and threats to Palestinian control over Al-Aqsa mosque—an important religious site in Jerusalem—have all increased.
Since coming to power, the far-right Netanyahu government in Israel has escalated violence against Palestinian communities while rejecting any possibility of Palestinian independence or equality. Settler leaders now hold sway in Israel and have taken concrete steps toward annexing the West Bank while pushing forward efforts to eliminate Palestinians from the majority of the West Bank.
For Palestinians, violence is an extreme,
daily reality.
https://afsc.org/news/5-things-you-need-know-about-whats-happening-israel-and-gaza
Did you every had any doubt of what America and Israel are capable?
He got canned,and wisely so.
He said what you hold deep in your heart. Your past comments speak volumes.
Not at all.I see Palestinians as victims of the worlds persecution of Jews. I see Iran,with a huge landmass,population.and oil wealth,and no borders wit Israel, as a bully and existential threat. I own,I own this.
“I see Palestinians as victims of the worlds persecution of…”
Wow – with Nordstream ruined, how are you managing to fuel this gaslighting ?
Israel is downwind from Gaza.
Iran is downwind from Israel.
US eastern states were downwind from Nevada A bomb tests in Nevada. American kids had radioactive baby teeth. US military government ghouls could measure baby teeth isotopes to identify which test deposited in American toddlers,
Suspend him? Fire him? For telling nothing but the truth? Keep this Israeli “Heritage” Minister on US TV 24 hours a day, 7 days a week! Enough with the BS and tell people the truth. Israel has nuclear weapons and will not hesitate to use it on civilians, just like us! And, much more importantly: Please don’t pretend you’re using nukes to save lives! Just be you! (Sarcasm)
What a fucking imbecile.
Even talking about Nukes should be a war crime.
In other words,free speech is only for some and not for others.Should American Nazis have been allowed to parade through a Jewish neighborhood in Illinois?
He is just an Israeli extravert. He’s just thinking out loud. Very loud.
I just want to know why he singled out Ireland as the country he wants Gazans to emigrate to?
Racism against ‘the Oyresh’ is almost as old as anti-semitism. Hells, when COVID “hit” where I live, the St. Patrick’s Day parades were the first thing cancelled. When racism is on the upswing, seems to be the Irish targeted first, and boy did the Panickdemic bear that out.
US nuclear sub offers show of force in the Middle East
The sub’s deployment is the latest major US military build-up amid the ongoing Israel-Hamas war.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/6/us-sends-nuclear-sub-to-middle-east-amid-gaza-war
“They can go to Ireland or deserts…”
What now with shots at the Emerald Isle, Boy-o ? This equating Hamas with the IRA or some such ?
Ireland accepted no Jewish refugees during WWII,and only the tiniest amount under false pretenses afterwards, and now is pro-Palestinian.If you aren’t part of the solution,you are part of the problem. Very just.
If you aren’t with us, you’re against us. Very neocon.
The muslims accepted a lot of jewish refugees and protected them from the holocaust. But see how they are paid back.
Talk about a paragon of projection! This should convince any hold-outs of the utterly hopeless depravity of of Zionism.
Meanwhile the U.S. government has announced they moved a Ballistic Submarine into the theater. That amounts to telling every potential adversary, “don’t get in our way, or we will nuke you.”
Between Nutandyahoo, and Biden, I do not think we have sane governments anymore.
It is not a ballistic submarine, it is a guided missile submarine (SSGN). No nukes are carried on those subs. Just mainly Tomahawk missiles.
Hope you are correct. A few Ohio Class subs are SSGNs, the rest are SSBNs (nuclear warheads). To my knowledge the defense department has not made it clear as to what exactly they did deploy. So, the message is the same. Maybe the Defense department should make it clear. Otherwise, they put the nuclear option on the table.
The defensive department did confirm is was a SSGN.
Israeli Minister Says Dropping Nuke on Israel Is an Option
Israel has a nuclear arsenal but has a policy of ambiguity, not officially recognizing that it exists. The US also maintains this policy regarding Israeli nukes.
Of course. Otherwise, that $4 billion per year would have to cease.
Nazis used to coolecticwly punish population if any of their occupation soldiers was killed by resistance. In several instances people were marched out of town from their jobs, kids from schools — and shot by the hundreds in revenge. Israel has copied the gruesome practice. No shame.
I do not know who decided that West Bank and Gaza have to be permanently occupied? How about giving them freedom to have their own state and own security? They cannot temain the only human beings on earth that have no right to defend themdselves from the abuse oof the occupier. They need to acquire the right to defend themselves. Become a state with all the responsibilities it entails.
The way things stand, the whole world is witnessing something not ever imagined possible. Israel’s defence ministerv Is calling Palestinians human animals. Not domestic animals with some utility, thus value. But the kind one needs to eliminate. He still has his job.
Palestinians would have been better as slaves, had some purpose of their existence and a value to their owners.
As it is, they are non-people, and many Zionist claim that Palestinians actually do not exist. Have no history. Came randomly to Israel’s historic lands and causing problems. How many well educated, sermingly civilized people can be heard supporting this theory,
The reaction globally is commesurate with the shock, recognition of the fact that all human beings are not being equal. That there are actually people who differentiate between superior human beings and human animals. This point was brought home to Latin America, Africa and Asia with the recollection of their own exoeriences.
The expectation that they are going to be just “pragmatic” about it, and act in “self interest” is so off mark here. There are historic memories touched off here that no pragmatism will easily suppress.
And no matter how it ends, the world will never be the same. Our supporting this open, unapologetic massacre will alter view of us globally.
We have crossed the Rubicon. Not recognizing that all human beings are made equal, places us back into barbarian universe. Our global leadership has been materially and irreparably damaged by this crisis.
Do you really think that Jews will continue to submit to pogroms?
Hi Jake:
I think it is quite logical for all of humanity to not only observe our environmental impacts of war but also the impact on ourselves, as human beings.
When does it stop? When we finally do ourselves in by nuking the crap out of each other?…………….
As much as nukes worry me, I have to admit, sentient A.I. has leapt ahead on my score-sheet.
There are nuts jobs on both sides. This guy is off the wall.
Israeli forces target solar panels at Gaza’s al-Shifa Hospital
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/6/israeli-forces-target-solar-panels-at-gazas-al-shifa-hospital
Suspended only because he let the cat out of the bag. If not Gaza, the Zionist Fascists in the Nets administration may nuke Iran.
It is also an option that can destroy southern Israel…!
“They can go to Ireland or deserts” that’s an oddly specific . . .