British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak on Sunday said that comments made by his defense secretary about sending troops into Ukraine for training are part of long-term planning, not something the UK would do in the “here and now.”
British Defense Secretary Grant Shapps told the Sunday Telegraph that he was discussing the idea of moving London’s training programs for Ukrainian troops from the UK into Ukraine. “I was talking today about eventually getting the training brought closer and actually into Ukraine as well,” Shapps said.
According to the Discord leaks and several media reports, the UK has had special operations forces inside Ukraine. The Times of London reported all the way back in April 2022 that British Special Air Service troops were training Ukrainians on anti-tank weapons outside of Kyiv. But the presence was never officially acknowledged by London, and an open British military deployment to Ukraine would mark a significant escalation of NATO involvement in the war.
In response to Shapps’ comments, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said the potential British deployment would turn British military instructors into “legal targets” of the Russian armed forces. Medvedev said the British troops would be “ruthlessly eliminated, and this time not as mercenaries but as British NATO specialists.”
But Sunak insisted Shapps was not talking about deploying troops to Ukraine anytime soon. Sunak said that Britain had been training Ukrainians “for a long time” inside the UK. “And what the Defence Secretary was saying was that it might well be possible one day in the future for us to do some of that training in Ukraine,” he said.
“But that’s something for the long term, not the here and now, there are no British soldiers that will be sent to fight in the current conflict. That’s not what’s happening. What we are doing is training Ukrainians. We’re doing that here in the UK,” Sunak added.
Russia has also said shooting Brits in Ukraine is fair game. Just another provocation by the West to start WWIII.
It’s the final desperate gambit.
England already knows that its troops are fair game if they are caught inside Ukraine.
Russia has already struck several buildings, that were being used for planning by senior officers 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑒𝑖𝑔𝑛 𝑎𝑑𝑣𝑖𝑠𝑜𝑟𝑠.
This is also a problem with sending aircraft to Ukraine. Russia has also announced that hostile aircraft will be destroyed without considering the markings on the aircraft or the nationality of the personnel aboard.
This is legitimate, and we would do the same.
The dormant British-Russian enmity has shifted from Iran/Afghanistan to Ukraine. The difference is that there is much less wealth to be stolen in Ukraine than in Iran and GB badly needs funds for its tottering social programs. The outcome might be bad for both Britain and Ukraine. The day may come when Ukrainian nationalism will kick the Brits out of Ukraine.
Zelensky is an analog of the Shah except that he is a much stronger and apt ruler.
Great point. Why is he more powerful? Why, why, why? It’s a nagging question that invokes an impossible math/conspiracy problem of epic proportions. Like the universe ending and beginning in its own self? …My thoughts uncontrollably turn to a nagging Wikipedia article that’s not been deleted yet. …No? …It’s just me? You’re probably right, but someone do us a favor and delete that article, please?
(Conspiracy Sarcasm)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Other_Side:_The_Secret_Relationship_Between_Nazism_and_Zionism
Surprisingly that relationship goes back to the days of Chancellor Hitler that struck a deal to deport instead of committing the final solution. Clearly something went wrong.
“British PM Clarifies Defense Secretary’s Comments” If you’re clarifying the comments for the people, we don’t care. If you’re doing it for the Russians, stop wasting your time. Many of the simulations on nuclear war already factor in all your deeds–to the point that makes me feel you’re getting more than your fair share. It’s like the Russians want to collapse your island into a black hole, plunging it into Earth all the way to China. (Sarcasm)
“in the future” – like maybe in three to six months… oh, yeah, they intend to send troops to Ukraine. It’s inevitable. Now it’s “advisors” – like in Vietnam. Then it will be “peacekeepers” or “humanitarian intervention”.
I do find it a bit bizarre that SAS troops are “training” Ukrainians on antitank weapons and presumably tactics. When have the SAS EVER “fought tanks”? Never, I presume; certainly no one currently in the ranks ever has; so what makes them “experts”?
This is like all the NATO training; people with zero experience in a near-peer conventional war, schooling new troops in How To Fight. The Ukrainians would be better off bringing some of the brigades that have been decimated, in actual fighting, back to reconstitute and regroup, and let the veterans left in the ranks teach the newcomers what they’ve learned; what works, and what doesn’t, and have the entire brigade retrain, refit, and exercise together before returning to the front.
One suspects there is too much money, for third parties, involved in conducting this mess the way they are doing it; parceling out small groups of soldiers to train at different sites, under different militaries, before bringing them all back together again and dumping them into a single bucket. Someone has to be getting paid for people to stick with this method
Reminiscent of the absolute horror show that was “US training” for the Iraqi and Afghan militaries; and we all know how ineffective that fiasco was.
https://russian.rt.com/world/news/1211370-simonyan-britaniya-medvedev
“Simonyan: After Medvedev’s words, Britain backed down on the issue of sending instructors to Ukraine”
Russian satellites or intense ISR over Lviv the next three days.
The hospitality business for Brits, Poles, and Americans is appreciated by Kiev.
At a thousand a day KIA the British would lose their entire army in a few months.