The New York Times reported on Friday that US officials “fear” Ukraine has become “casualty averse” as Ukrainian commanders have not been pushing as hard against Russia’s defenses as the US would like due to a high cost in Ukrainian lives.
The report reads: “American officials say they fear that Ukraine has become casualty averse, one reason it has been cautious about pressing ahead with the counteroffensive. Almost any big push against dug-in Russian defenders protected by minefields would result in huge numbers of losses.”
In recent weeks, there have been multiple reports exposing the lack of concern on the US and NATO side for Ukrainian lives. On Thursday, The Washington Post reported that US and British war games ahead of Ukraine’s counteroffensive anticipated high casualties but “envisioned Kyiv accepting the casualties as the cost of piercing through Russia’s main defensive line.”
While the US is pressing Ukraine to push harder, Ukrainian officials say they’re not properly armed to do so. “We simply don’t have the resources to do the frontal attacks that the West is imploring us to do,” a source within the Ukrainian general staff told The Economist.
When Ukraine first launched its counteroffensive in June, Ukrainian forces did attempt a big push to break through Russian lines, but the result was disastrous. According to the Times, Ukraine lost 20% of all weaponry it deployed in the first two weeks of its counteroffensive.
The exact human cost of the counteroffensive is not clear, as Ukraine has not been releasing casualty figures. The Times report said that the US estimates almost 500,000 people have been killed or wounded on both sides, but the number is not confirmed.
US officials claim Russia has taken more losses than Ukraine, but the conflict has been an artillery war, and Russia has much more firepower. Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief Gen. Valery Zaluzhny has said that in some battles, Russia fired 10 times as much artillery as Ukraine.
Ukraine’s Western backers appear to have lost hope that the counteroffensive will succeed. The Post report on Thursday said that US intelligence determined the assault would fail to meet its core objective of severing Russia’s land bridge to Crimea.
Leading up to the counteroffensive, the Discord leaks and other media reports showed that the US did not believe Ukraine could regain significant territory. But the Biden administration still pushed for the assault and rejected the idea of a ceasefire.
We apparently need new US officials. The war is over and ukraine has lost, time for the shipheads in D.C. to stand up and acknowledge that their proxy war is a total and abject failure and direct mr. zelensky to surrender himself, and his army, to the russian authorities, before anyone else dies. Then, we can talk illegal biolabs, millions of ukraine refugees who lost it all because of this war, how its a bad idea to try and build a NATO missile base in Russia’s back yard, hunter biden/burisma, installation of pocket dictators like zelensky to start with, abolishing unneeded/unwanted federal agencies, sunsetting NATO, kissing off the WHO/WEF, dramatically reducing ‘defense’ spending, why its bad to put senile senior citizens in public office especially high public office, and some other stuff.
The US can’t or won’t do anything to rebuild the infrastructure in our cities and towns,urban or rural Mississippi or West Virginia plus a lot of other places that need help. Does Ukraine think the US is going to help them rebuild? With what.
BlackRock and J.P. Morgan are going to do the rebuilding of Ukraine at taxpayer expense as they loot the country.
.. as they remix, re-squeeze, re-slice, re-wrap, re-plumb, re-blend, re-sell, re-swindle the continuously suffocating country’s debt with very few remaining country’s assets into an easier to swallow AND digest conglomerate, perpetually serviced by Ukrainian and if that fails – eu taxpayers.
Who is going to pay for the rebuilding of the US?
Tankie talking points aren’t going to be true no matter how many time you regurgitate them. (You guys should find new ones.)
The facts on the ground are that NO ONE could learn Combined Arms maneuvers in a couple of months. (The US takes YEARS to train their forces in it and then they take YEARS to practice it.)
Also, the US has AIR POWER that the Ukes don’t possess. They’re using drones and HIMARS to attempt to replicate it but it’s not the same. Even with that, the Ukes ARE ADVANCING and you tankies can’t change that fact; but y’all keep trying. Bless your hearts!
“The facts on the ground are that NO ONE could learn Combined Arms maneuvers in a couple of months. (The US takes YEARS to train their forces in it and then they take YEARS to practice it.)”
Another example of the US relying on HOPE and COURAGE. But carry on Ukraine and please get over that pesky casualty adverse thingy.
The Ukes won’t have to. Their current strategy is working.
Sure is working, the Ukrainian strategy is working against themselves with massive Ukrainian losses.
Ooooh, slick burn! Also, completely wrong.
Their current strategy? Did you not read the article? The strategy is not their’s, it’s the US’s and the strategy is sacrifice huge swaths of Ukrainians, and the Ukrainians don’t want to do it.
The Ukrainians ARE doing it and it’s their strategy. (Did YOU not read the articles? They’ve reverted to a pseudo-Soviet strategy that the Americans hate.)
I see. And they won’t need air cover either. Or mine clearing equipment. They have bodies. Great strategy.
Retard talking point.
Ahhh…profound retort from the lead D-Bag.
I’m just following your own playbook spaz. Triggered already?
Says the one sentence wonder! Hahaha.
A reply from the Stank talking points repository.
Is he a “Wankie”, then ? Someone who supports the Neolib/Neocon World “Order” ? 😉
That’s a lot to talk about … it just may take the rest of our lives even if we start now!
You mentioned biolabs. So, why haven’t the Russians bombed the biolabs in Ukraine and Georgia?
Refusing to send young Ukrainian men to certain doom is a disaster for the cowardly imperial parasites.
This means the end is near for them. The fear these useless pests have is for their own pitiful existence.
They will reinvent themselves. In some other war. Some other place.
Ghouls and vampires routinely reinvent themselves. This time as unworldly devils. What kind of sick individuals do we have in America promoting death and destruction ?
That’s an insult to the Ghoul and Vampires communities.
“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” Karl Rove – 2004
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I honestly don’t see it. The Anglo-American empire is the last refuge for these pests. I don’t see any other major global power where they could find fertile ground. It was probably possible within PRC when the Chinese socialism was young but not today. A whole lot of resources is needed for subversion of government structures. Resources these pests are currently profusely bleeding out.
That’s rich coming from the country that bombs the shit out of people from way far away, and thereby maximizing civilian casualties, and minimizing their own. But it doesn’t matter when it’s expendable Ukrainian lives.
You got that right. The US supplies the arms and money. Ukraine provides the dead and damaged bodies and a destroyed infrastructure.
How long are the people of the Ukraine going to allow themselves to be used as cannon fodder for USA/NATO/NWO? Another point- these man-made wars are always a good testing ground for new hardware/software that the military/government will use when subcontracting weapons production!
The Ukrainians are to dumb to call for a cease fire and a political settlement for peace , they are waiting for Biden to tell them what to do .
The lie about low Ukrainian casualties can deceive only people in NATO countries. Ukrainians themselves can watch every day the numerous crippled men in the streets of their towns, see fast growing cemeteries and listen to soldiers who were lucky enough to come alive from the frontline. They know the horrible truth. They also know that the situation is deteriorating steadily. Propaganda about victorious Ukrainian army can’t fool them any more. Hence their lack of enthusiasm to continue this war.
It is amazing that there is no intrepid media to tell thevstory of real Ukraine. What a mess!
Colonel Cassad’s Live Journal
VZGLYAD.ru
John Helner Dances with Bears
There is Antiwar.com, RT, plus Chinese , Venezuelan and Brazilian news… And people like us.
Good job, Bianca. You have been very persistent.
A good assembly of independent journalists as well if you don’t trust state media
Yes, and Tolstoy is a much easier to use forum.
The oligarchy takes care that the narrative of their corporate media prevails. Still we have some bloggers and more or less free internet. Also there is mass media of other countries which are independent of US empire.
Calculated disaster may fit tighter than mess which can be less intentional and it seems that if either side is beginning to unravel, at this time it is not the Russians.
Same goes to Russian soldiers and in greater figures but you are only here to call out Ukraine.
Even the Moon hates Russia!
The Times reports 500,000 casualties but they claim two thirds of them are Russian. That and the fact that they are known liars means you can take their numbers and toss them in the trash.
I wouldn’t care to hazard a guess what the actual numbers are, but I highly doubt the side that’s been throwing ten times as much lead is losing twice as many men. And if anyone is risk adverse it seems to be the Russians, who are more careful with the lives of their soldiers, not counting the prisoners they tossed into Bahkmut.
The corporate media is cheating not only the ordinary citizens but also the political elite which uses the corporate media as the main source of information. The corruption, of course, is also contributing, but most congressmen are really disorientated.
A strange statement coming from your user name..
Western media can’t even tell the truth about their own countries, much less somebody elses..
Try getting your info from local sources.. Russia has some fine blogs.. UA has the half-assed Strana.news
Yes, however, members of Congress have staff that is paid to find out what people like us find out in our own dime.
Obviously, their staff is paid for finding out arguments supporting the corporate media narrative. Members of Congress are quite content with that.
What it boils down to is we are gambling that Russia and China are not as crazy as we are ignoring the fact that we are headed for hell if we don’t change our ways.
Russia and China aren’t gonna do s**t. You tankies can do all the saber rattling you want. (The Chinese especially are too smart and Russia has been exposed as too weak.)
Russia and China don’t have to “do s**t.” The American empire will implode of its own accord and all the Chinese and Russians have to do is sit back and watch. Of course while the empire implodes the American Nazis will do much damage to vulnerable countries in an attempt to bolster their credibility. In the end it will only hasten their demise.
What evidence do you have that the “American Empire” is imploding? (If it’s just a nihilist’s “feeling”, then I reject your premise.)
Come back in 20 years and we’ll talk.
Will do, champ.
“Will do, champ.”
Says the man who wants “evidence” that the empire is imploding as if that could be marshalled and deployed in a comment section. Get a grip fascist scum.
No. You told me to “come back in 20 years” and I agreed to do that. Tankie D-Bag having trouble following his own comments?
So you think that because I am anti war I am a “tankie d-bag”? Do you even know what the term tankie means? I suggest you get right with your god before the American people rouse from their slumber (it’s coming soon).
Oh, no! I’m scared. Does that work on anyone to make them listen to you? Hahaha.
You have proven through your commenting here that you are incapable of listening. I gather you fancy yourself left wing? If so you should do as Bill Hicks advises those who work in advertising to do.
Misanthrope Bill Hicks? Let me know what he thinks from the grave.
1) Afganistan, our puppet state, folded within hours of US leaving.
2) syria is renormalizing with other arab countries, despite american protestation and occupation
3) Iran is renormalizing with other arab countries, despite american protestations.
4) Saudi Arabia is taking payments not in US dollars, against a decades old precedent where we provide military support if they prop up the dollar with oil.
5) The dollar continues to decrease as the settlement currency in international markets
6) our population growth is barely on an even keel, and constantly at threat of tipping negative.
1) Afganistan [sic], our puppet state, folded within hours of US leaving.
That has nothing to do with the US “imploding”.
2) syria [sic] is renormalizing with other arab countries, despite american protestation and occupation
That has nothing to do with the US “imploding”.
3) Iran is renormalizing with other arab countries, despite american protestations.
That has nothing to do with the US “imploding”.
4) Saudi Arabia is taking payments not in US dollars, against a decades old precedent where we provide military support if they prop up the dollar with oil.
SA is “open” to taking other currancies. (Not yet.)
5) The dollar continues to decrease as the settlement currency in international market
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/usd-jpy-forecast-us-dollar-continues-to-be-favored-over-yen-despite-drop
6) our population growth is barely on an even keel, and constantly at threat of tipping negative
That seems to be a positive but…WRONG!
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/2022-population-estimates.html
The claim was the U.S. empire is imploding. Try to improve your reading comprehension skills fascist scum.
And none of you has provided backing for your assertions…
You aren’t aware of all the mass shootings, homelessness, taxes being squandered for forever wars, infrastructure rotting away, pronouns changed to satisfy a fraction of the population, kids being being medicated and mutilated before they reach adulthood, and even the courts strike down laws forbidding that practice? It’s a collective psychosis.
Your right-wing paranoia does not mean the US is imploding. That is the domain of you and your MAGA-Fox-News-watching-ammosexuals.
Denial, like hope, springs eternal, doesn’t it? And, I’m not MAGA, Fox or Trump, just one who perceives things as they are. The whole political system in the West is so corrupt it’s rot is being felt as things progress downward.
Where were you when night after night American cities were being trashed, looted, and set on fire over George Floyd’s death from fentanyl? Have you been to Chicago, San Francisco, New York, and other cities around the country to count the numbers of homeless people living on the streets driving people away. Where were you on January 6th, 2021? Wake up and smell the
coffee! This nation has become a third world shit hole!
Nobody was anywhere when American cities were being trashed, etc. over George Floyd’s death from fentanyl, because a knee on the neck is not fentanyl.
The angle of the camera made it look like it was a knee on the neck, but it was really a knee on the shoulder. Floyd died of an overdose of fentanyl. Derek Chauvin was doing the job the way he was taught. He should not be in prison.
Chauvin was used as a patsy to divide Americans and cause more trouble in the USA. The lesson is don’t be a cop in today’s psychotic nation where career criminals are the now the heroes.
Right. And police brutality is just a figment of our imaginations. Now let’s go down to our local police station and see their old hand me down military equipment that they are going to use to PROTECT AND SERVE our community.
If people behaved themselves instead of shooting and stabbing each other which is an epidemic of blood thirsty young men, there would be far less brutality. Address the perps brutality before you condemn the cops for doing their job. Anybody that wants to be a cop in the no-justice system of today’s America is either very courageous or crazy. Go on a ride along with a cop in NYC and see what the police are up against before you condemn; like walk a mile in their moccasins, etc.
A cop’s job is to protect the political class from the productive class.
But, it’s the non productive faction that are causing all the trouble and mayhem today. To quote both St. Paul and Lennin, “If a person doesn’t work, they shall not eat.”
“Productive” and “white” do not mean the same thing.
Sure. The only brutality would be when deserved. I get you loud and clear.
To imply all cops are bad is something called prejudice and bigotry. It’s a case by case thingy, isn’t it? Just like MLK said.
“Cop” is not a genetic trait, it’s a chosen occupation.
There are three kinds of cops.
Bad cops.
Cops who tolerate and cover for bad cops.
Cops who get beat down, shut out, or shot by bad cops.
I like to think that my late brother, who retired as a small-town cop, was in the second category. Which isn’t saying much for him, though I loved him. He definitely drank the Thin Blue Line Kool-Aid. But I hope he wasn’t unjustifiably violent and abusive, just because he could be with almost no chance of facing consequences.
Who called all cops bad? The more absurd thing is you thinking that “perps brutality” has something to do with justifying police brutality.
Derek Chauvin committed murder in public view and on camera and, unusually given the boot-licking cop-sucker mentality of most Americans, ended up paying for his crime.
Apologies, Mr. Knapp. I’ve seemed to have stirred up a hornet’s nest and possibly made extra work for you.
Apologies, Mr. Knapp. I’ve seemed to have stirred up a hornet’s nest and possibly made extra work for you.
Apologies, Mr. Knapp. I’ve seemed to have stirred up a hornet’s nest and possibly made extra work for you.
Nah, commenting isn’t part of my work. I do that for fun since I’m here anyway.
(You’re a good read for sure. Even when we disagree.)
Will you stop your brown-nosing in an effort to get support?
Pretty sure he agreed before I “brown nosed” him.
We all do it for fun because none of us get paid.
There are exceptions like for that boot-licking cop-sucker mentality when an unarmed woman is shot in cold blood, e.g., murdered and the perpetrator was lauded as a hero.
I say bullshit to the camera angle nonsense. And when Floyd said he couldn’t breathe, why didn’t Chauvin get the fuck off of him EVEN if he was having breathing problems and it WAS being caused by a fentanyl overdose? Is that part of a cop’s training?
That whole incident was used for political purposes. The state never lets a tragedy go unexploited to advance it’s evil agenda.
Yes, all incidents are used for political purposes.
That doesn’t make those incidents into anything other than what they were, though.
But lethal doses of fentanyl is death.
Better get used to it. The third world countries and emptying their prisons and sending them as migrants to the USA, and the Dems. welcome them, and the Reps. may say something, but don’t do anything about it. Countries are ‘sht holes’ because the people living there make them that way, and now Wash. is fondly accepting those people which will ensure America will further become an outhouse nation. See reports from New York which made a big mistake when it became a sanctuary city. Now its paying the price.
OH, NO! ALL THE CITIES ARE BURNING!
I’ve recently been to NY and Chicago and, sorry, they’re fine.
Cops killed George Floyd and went to prison for it. (BTW, Fentanyl is killing whites in the suburbs and rural areas more.)
Homelessness has always been a problem.
Jan 6th, was a MAGA insurrection and lots of perpetrators are going to jail (even the main guy, hopefully!)
Wake up and smell the ketchup on the wall!
OH THERE WAS AN ARMED REBELLION/INSURRECTION IN D.C. in 2021, but not in the summer of 2020.
No. There wasn’t.
There wasn’t on Jan 6th either.
Yes. There was.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-08-16/donald-trump-constitution-federalist-society-14th-amendment-insurrection
They were both riots. And all people guilty of rioting should be in jail. I keep hearing the same argument about Trump being held accountable for doing the same shit that others do and have done before him. They ALL should be held accountable and we shouldn’t be demanding that Trump be left alone, but that Biden, Obama, Clinton(s), Bush and all the others face the same fate.
Better get used to it. The third world countries and emptying their prisons and sending them as migrants to the USA, and the Dems. welcome them, and the Reps. may say something, but don’t do anything about it. Countries are ‘shit holes’ because the people living there make them that way, and now Wash. is fondly accepting those people which will ensure America will further become an outhouse nation. See reports from New York which made a big mistake when it became a sanctuary city. Now its paying the price.
“Better get used to it. The third world countries and emptying their prisons and sending them as migrants to the USA, and the Dems. welcome them.”
Because Donald told me so.
HYPOCRITE – Provide sources for those lies.
Russia hasn’t done shit and China hasn’t done shit. That’s proof so far. If you want to wait and see, then OK, but I can’t PROVE they won’t. I’m just going by past practice. Now, can YOU prove they’re gonna do something?
Neo liberal western capitalism does not value human life. Corporate profit is the goal of the war in Ukraine. Love makes human life and that has no economic measurement.
US lack of concern for human life became clear during the Covid pandemic. US national press monopolies ridiculed Chinese methods of caring for human life, few Americans know Covid was the third epidemic to hit China and they were scared enough to do whatever they could to save precious Chinese lives.
An opposite example to Chinese care and appreciation for life is American citizens taking the patriotic bait for a seamless transition from war in Afghanistan to war in Ukraine. Americans have let corporate war profit rule and now face ever more united world-wide opposition with superior technology and moral.
Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Boeing all doing smashingly well. Just like greed war is good.
Yes!
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death’s construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to Mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds ……
War Pigs
I’ll see your Black Sabbath and raise you The Clash.
I swear by Almighty God
To tell the whole truth
And nothing but the truth
Guns guns
They torture all the women and children
Then they’ve put the men to the gun
‘Cos across the human frontier
Freedom’s always on the run
Guns guns a-shaking in terror
Guns guns killing in error
Guns guns guilty hands
Guns guns shatter the lands
LOL. Thanks!
Appreciate you and your mind and wit
Such poetry warms my heart.
“US lack of concern for human life became clear during the Covid pandemic.”
You are correct, but not in the way that you think. Excess mortality is at an all time high in western “democracies,” and it is not from covid. As Dr. John Ioannidis noted very early on our lockdown policies had the potential to kill more people than the virus. Furthermore, the idea that the elites in any country value human life is laughable given that every year ~15 million humans die of starvation. This is 2.5 holocausts every year. This problem is soluble and is basically a question of logistics. No novel technology or drastic social engineering required.
Yiu agree with the great Amartya Sen. He proved there has never been a non human instigated famine.
I have never heard of Amarta Sen, thanks for turning me on to his work.
“…Chinese methods of caring for human life…”
HAHAHAHA
I think the Chinese would even laugh at that!
“Chinese care for life”-what about Tibet, the Uyghurs,organ theft, and now upcoming Taiwan war”?Come on!
Such an hilarious headline; as if UA could do otherwise than lose.. If they want to escalate, Russia can finally take off the kis-gloves..
Yes. FINALLY, Russia can take off its “kid gloves”. They’ve just been standing around doing very little until now. Hahaha.
NATO demands that Ukraine hurry up and die so we can get back to business as usual.
IF NATO officials are really pushing this narrative then it is just a pathetic attempt to keep the finger of blame from pointing at them, which is where it belongs. Because unless they can convince everyone the failure is “Ukraine’s fault” they have to admit that 1) the offensive they encouraged was a bad plan, 2) Ukraine’s much vaunted “NATO training” was both inadequate and inappropriate to conditions, 3) their much vaunted “western equipment” they waste billions of dollars on is no better than the russian versions, OR was not the right equipment for the job but they gave it anyway, and 4) their “intelligence network” which they spend uncountable billions of dollars on, either misread the strength of Russian preparations OR was completely ignored by western leaders.
If these four points are admitted, then the “NATO officials” are guilty of gross military malpractice, should all be fired and, if there were any justice, imprisoned for being the corrupt, soulless incompetents they are.
So of course, it was all “war gamed thoroughly and realistically”, under the same conditions “NATO would have won”, and all setbacks are therefore “the fault of cowardly and incompetent Ukrainians”.
Just like Afghanistan; the Pentagon did “all it could” to “build up and train a viable Afghan military”; but who knew the “cowardly and corrupt Afghans” would turn and run instead of “fighting like good Americans would”?? Of course it’s all “their fault, not ours”, and “may I have another star for my shoulders please? I “earned” it”!
And yet, the Ukrainians are still advancing…
Compare this war to WWI. Trench warfare goes back and forth and is horrible because many lives on both sides are lost for a few yards and miles.
Not really. They are fighting in the security zone, for tiny villages, and have not reached the first main defensive line yet. That’s after 2 1/2 months, and the commitment of all their western trained brigades. Meanwhile, the Russians have advanced near Kupiansk, taking at least as much territory there as the Ukrainians have taken down south.
How long did it take the allies to “break out” of Normandy in WWII?
*(Check your sources. That Kupiansk “advance” was rolled back.)
Normandy is a faulty comparison. Check the Battle of Kursk because it was fought on very similar terrain.
Tell me why Normandy is a faulty comparison…
The massive Russian advance on Berlin was the exigent proposition facing the German army. It had 126 divisions on the eastern front, 6 on the west and could could not reinforce or maintain them. They were defenseless against artillery and aerial bombing.
And? What’s comparison you’re trying to make?
That there is no comparison: Ukraine doesn’t have air superiority to wear down Russian defenses, nor is Russia unable to maintain them. Nor is Russian focus on an overwhelming eastern advance.
yeah, OK.
“Tell me why Normandy is a faulty comparison…”
To Kursk? I think you should go back and read about the Battle of Kursk. (You’ve gotten it all wrong, chief.)
“How long did it take the allies to “break out” of Normandy in WWII?”
You are a waste of time.
Why do you always feign befuddlement when the truth hits you?
Nobody provided a comparative truth.
YOu have to have a truth in the first place to expect a comparaitive one.
Sure. You keep trying.
Please see above.
Because there’s no English Channel involved and no amphibious operations undertaken. Simple Dimple.
No one is using the beach landing as an example. They’ll use the conditions present IN Normandy as an example. I’m thinking you struggle with conceptual thinking. Do you need to take a breather?
You actually think?
OOOOH, another slick burn! You guys are on fire today!
You have no idea of what you’re speaking.
Your ignorance is precious!
There was the English Channel bordering Normandy.
Yes. And the comparisons to Normandy are meant to include the Battle of Normandy — not the beach landings. Understand?
“Battle of Kursk, involved as many as 6,000 tanks, 4,000 aircraft and 2 million fighting men and is remembered as the greatest tank battle in history.” (Britannica)
*Correction: Todays updates I’ve seen say the Russians are advancing in the Kupiansk area. (I will always admit changes in the situation when I get an update.)
Please provide sources that substantiate the comparison of the Normandy breakout and the situation in Ukraine.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/18/ukraine-counteroffensive-world-war-i-ii-western-front-normandy-trench-warfare-strategy-history/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2023/06/05/ukraines-offensive-faces-same-challenges-as-the-world-war-ii-normandy-fight/?sh=757a1725c72e
Is this war to weaken Russia or Ukraine? Or just kill off as many Ukrainians still speaking Russian as possible…?????. Perhaps the Russian speaking Recruits will wise up to perpetuating their own geneoCide….!!!!!
You got that one, Unfortunatelly for Russian speaking recruits, there are guardians behind them to insure they can chose to die goung forward, or falling back.
Their game is over when the Russian speakers become aware of their own support of THEIR own genocide reaches tipping point…. Bye- Bye Russian speakers support… who are over 50% of Ukraine population…!!!!!!!!!!!
or shoot their “minders”
Neocons are just downright evil. Their ideological “father” was the late philosopher Leo Strauss of the U. of Chicago. Strauss opposed the Open Society and Liberalism and favored a Corporate Oligarchy / Imperialist Militarism. Leo Strauss inspired the violence and vengeance being played out in the Middle East and now Ukraine.
Don’t forget Friedman and his followers.
The philosophic antidote to Straussian Neocon war-mongering is The Open Society and Its Enemies by Karl Popper.
We want them to send more meat to be ground up.
They still have European reserves and are aiming for the Japanese, Taiwanese, and S. Koreans too. Not to forget the Canadians and Aussies.
This week marks two years since the United States and NATO abandoned Afghanistan in ruins. The country is wracked with poverty and barely functioning after the devastating US illegal war. The same fate awaits Ukraine, except on a far greater scale.
How dumb does Ukraine have to be to continue to go down this path.
Ukrainian political elite is subordinated to US oligarchy. People of Ukraine are brainwashed, terrorized and disorganized. It is not so easy to organize some kind of resistance to the current regime. Many of those who tried, were killed in first year after the coup. In the last 9 years, more than 10 millions escaped from Ukraine, not counting those who escaped from Ukraine together with their lands.
The whole “SHOW” seems to run on HATE encouraged by our Neocon manipulators and financial supporters with our debt & taxes. Only 500,000 dead compared to the 26 million lost to the Nazi invasion. But a first strike advantage could precipitate loss of 50 million easily or more. When both sides are so well armed the number have the potential to be staggering!!!!!!
“But a first strike advantage could precipitate loss of 50 million easily or more.”
Not sure what you mean by “first strike advantage.”
There are no plausible circumstances under which either the US or Russia could position itself for an unanswerable first strike. Unless the oceans dry up, submarine-launched nukes guarantee Mutual Assured Destruction. That would remain the case if the US built and stocked Minuteman silos in Smolensk.
The First Strike initiators will be ready to launch the 3rd Strike after taking the incoming in the 2nd Strike
The Ukes will continue to kill Russians until they’re out of their country.
If you check out the current balance of forces Ukraine does not have enough men. A war of attrition was always going to favor Russia. Anyone who told you different was lying.
Please provide sources for the information you just posted…
Seriously? You can’t be that uninformed.
Please provide sources for the information you just posted…
(I WILL keep copying and pasting that until you satisfy my request.)
Russia vs Ukraine, and ONLY, Ukraine? You even know better than that.
It seems that he can. Rational Thinker is simply a deluded troll.
Adding nothing and trying — and failing — to bust stones. Seems like the real definition of troll.
Tell me, son, DO you have anything to add?
You give them too much credit when you presume they are “deluded.” They know, but they lie.
It’s not my job to search out and present easily obtained information. Pull your head out.
Your job is to just talk bulls**t.
It seems that’s actually your job. We’re all lying on the floor laughing at the deluded nonsense you’re posting here.
AND you’ve still added nothing. Delusion is coming purely from the Putin fan-boys.
And there we have it. Just call anyone that doesn’t agree with you a “Putin fan boy”. No proof, deeply flawed, childish and cheap!
AND you STILL haven’t added anything to the discussion.
You have. COMEDY. You’r a bit like Zelensky, a comedian.
Laughable with your “provide sources” mantra. You lazy bum, look it up yourself and practice what you preach with your “provide sources” demands.
You jaggoffs make assertions you absolutely can’t back up and you make ME prove you wrong. When the tables-are-turned, you’ve got nothing and everyone knows it.
Funny, I don’t see anyone whatsoever agreeing with you here. Looks as though you’re in your own little fantasist echo chamber thumping away at a keyboard. Maybe you should get out a bit more.
That appeared to be directed to Lindsey Graham.
He daren’t look it up. He’d be confronted with the truth which would destroy his own non fact based narrative. I’m sure he’s aware of reality but is afraid to acknowledge it.
Russia has 300,000 combat military service individuals in reserve that haven’t been used whatsoever so far. They are fully trained and can be put in to battle at any time. Meanwhile, Ukraine is grabbing people off of the streets to throw them in to the front lines. Press ganging is certainly not the action of a “winning” side, neither are the pin prick drone flights to Moscow, which are strategically of no use. Russia hasn’t even declared war on Ukraine. If it did, Ukraine would be wiped out in any full scale war.
Germany is being de-industrialised and, like other European states, is already in recession. The blitz of sanctions have all backfired and have become a spectacular own goal, especially for the EU. Furthermore, several EU leaders have already been booted out of office as their citizens have had enough of them. Several others are likely to follow soon, think Scholz on that one.
The US and NATO don’t give a damn about Ukrainians, they’re simply being used in a geopolitical game that economically the US and NATO has already lost. Hence, the obvious panic and blame gaming within NATO.
Now we also see the rise of countries wishing to join BRICS and de-dollarise their economies. The global south, apart from the usual vassal states, is starting to find its voice and is finally beginning to reject ex-colonial countries and the US’s bullying, meddling and thieving. US hegemony is over. It’s high time grown up realists in Washington, London and other NATO capitals realise that the game’s up. They need to rid themselves of the rabid, warmongering, ideologically and war profit driven neocons & neoliberals. They need to agree to serious peace negotiations in order to stop the killing on both sides.
“Germany is being de-industrialised and, like other European states, is already in recession.”
Sure, if by “de-industrialized” you mean “their industrial production is increasing” and if by “recession” you mean “their economy is growing.”
Otherwise, not so much.
If HPDeskJet’s links aren’t sufficient . . . Actually, they’re more than sufficient, but here’s a good one:
“Germany’s economy was the envy of Europe for many of the 30-plus years since reunification. But now the country is officially in recession and its people, used to decades of prosperity, are now losing confidence.
“Much of its current troubles have been caused by the war in Ukraine as Germany has turned its back on Russia, its former trading partner.
Special correspondent Malcolm Brabant reports.”
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/germanys-role-as-economic-powerhouse-at-tipping-point-amid-recession
Get up to date for God’s sake. You really are making yourself look uninformed and ridiculous when it comes to German economics. Do inform me as to where in Germany industrial production is increasing and its economy is growing.
“Industrial production in Germany dropped by 1.5% month-over-month in June 2023, worse than the market consensus of a 0.5% fall and following a downwardly revised 0.1% decline in May. This was the third time of fall so far this year,…” https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/industrial-production-mom
“German economy stagnates in second quarter, outlook remains clouded” https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/german-economy-stagnates-q2-2023-07-28/
“For two quarters in a row, its [Germany’s] economic output has declined — something
economists label a “technical recession.” In the most recent quarter, at the level of the previous quarter, and all the important economic indicators show a decline.” https://www.dw.com/en/germany-economy-weakens-2023/a-66403943
Or how about, “Germany faces a looming threat of deindustrialisation”: https://www.economist.com/business/2022/09/11/germany-faces-a-looming-threat-of-deindustrialisation
Even Politico of all publications admits “Eurozone fell into recession as energy prices soared ” https://www.politico.eu/article/eurozone-is-in-a-technical-recession/
(I do hope that I’ve given enough sources to keep Rational Thinker happy!)
Here it is, an american in an american university, write a blog from an american perspective posted on american servers protected by the american right to free speech, that Russia outnumbers and outguns Ukraine, despite American backing.
https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine
Recently, I read and article claiming the Taliban has put an end to the growing of poppies for opium in Afghanistan.
They had already done that before we invaded. Miraculously the industry recuperated after we occupied some of Afghanistan and installed our wonderful cronies.
Somehow I doubt that this is true. Too much money involved
Tribal hatreds can go on a very long time, especially when it’s financed by Wash. for its on policy and purposes.
Not dumb. Corrupt.
You speak of entire country as if it’s a single person. The imperial infestation started with propaganda. These parasites invade a country by first taking over local media and broadcasting their propaganda. Then they form political movements and foment coups against the democratically-elected gov. After taking over the gov they implement a society-wide purge on decedents and infect all of society. It doesn’t matter how many people resist this filth. It could be as high as 80% of the population. All they need is control of law enforcement and the military and these obedient dogs do their job for them. So blaming entire country for being stupid is like blaming a woman for being stupid after she was raped.
So, does anyone out there have any idea of when the Ukraine will be running out of bodies to throw at the Russians? By my estimate the war should have ended by now.
When they run out, Wash. will send in Americans for more blood letting.
Then they’ll start throwing in the Poles, who seem to be willing to self immolate for the “Cause”. Then the other Slav states will follow. I don’t think the Anglo-American Empire much likes Slavs anyway, too much of a nuisance to them. Now even the Scandinavian countries are showing a willingness to become more actively involved. Europeans in general want to help wipe themselves out ? Maybe just the self hating ones…. 😉
‘Casualty Averse’ is a new state euphemism for slaughter, just like ‘collateral damage’ is a euphemism for civilian casualties. “New Speak” even now goes down to pronouns. But, not even in 1984 did the state change pronouns.
I would once again emphasize that according to my calculations – available at my Substack – based on Russian MoD reports which are almost certainly relatively accurate compared to the nonsense in the MSM – show that Ukraine is currently losing troops at a rate which is a minimum of 30-60,000 per month and probably closer to 100,000.
This is utterly unsustainable. Even if Ukraine had another 500,000 troops available, the war can not last more than another 3-6 months before the Ukraine army combat and operational effectiveness collapses. And the signs are that is happening now, such as the Russian advances around Kupyansk.)
I would once again emphasize that according to my calculations – available at my Substack – based on Russian MoD reports which are almost certainly relatively accurate compared to the nonsense in the MSM – show that Ukraine is currently losing troops at a rate which is a minimum of 30-60,000 per month and probably closer to 100,000.
This is utterly unsustainable. Even if Ukraine had another 500,000 troops available, the war can not last more than another 3-6 months before the Ukraine army combat and operational effectiveness collapses. And the signs are that is happening now, such as the Russian advances around Kupyansk.)
Per the article’s title, the US has sent only advisers and tacticians into Ukraine. I understand Washington’s risk aversion after the lessons of Vietnam and the proxy forces concept.
Poland has reportedly lost 10,000 troops in Ukraine. We’ll qualify them as unrecognized military servicemen or mercenaries.
I don’t understand Warsaw’s strategic objectives, though its revanchist goals regarding oblasts west of Lviv figure prominently.
How and why did Polish jokes ever develop?
https://cont.ws/@slavikapple/2614581
Hate changes brain chemistry to the point of unreason and irrationality. Tribal hate between Slavic tribes is what this is all about. That hatred goes back centuries. Last time that happened was in the Balkans War.
NATO has already lost; 462 Aircraft, 246 helicopters, 5913 UAV’s, 431 Anti Aircraft systems, 11462 tanks inc. APC’s, 1144 multiple rocket launchers, 5969 rocket launchers and 12357 military automotive equipment. Approx. $1 Trillion of NATO hardware.
The AFU committed its last reserve brigade with western equipment to its disastrous so called counter-offensive. It will get ground up just like the forces it is replacing. Approx. $1 trillion of support and NATO is being mauled in Ukraine.
NATO is self-destructing, the Russians can sit back and watch the implosion. NATO members are attacking each other with sanctions and even sabotage the energy pipeline and the economies of their member states, taring the EU down with them.
Most of all they are disarming themselves to continue the slaughter in Ukraine.
The NATO idiots then attempt to open bases in Japan expecting the Japanese to become a bloody NATO member too. They are certified criminal IDIOTS.
Laptop bombadeers. This is the problem with a world run by Ivy Leaguers and lawyers who only live life in paper bubble.
Well grab a rifle boys and get to the front. You can stop shrapnel as good as the locals.
Ukraine has become casualty averse? If only they stopped dying and march all the way to Moscow. What’s wrong with these Ukrainians?
This is just a cold disregard NATO has over human life when it comes to other peoples soldiers.
Evil has bubbled to the surface of Earth, once again …..
How dare these Ukrainians not sacrifice themselves on the alter of the Empire Of Lies? Don’t they know that to die for America’s Neocons and Corporatocracy is the most noble thing a human being can do? Listen Ukrainian children to the wisdom of Judge Holden and sacrifice, sacrifice.
It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way.
~ Judge Holden ~
Blood Meridian
Who could be more casualty averse than the great United States people? Is that not why they use proxies to fight their wars, is that not what NATO is all about?
The USA also likes others to pay for their wars, that is why Sweden and Finland are welcome, they have money, that is what counts.
The Biden people are evil, they admit they know the casualties are wasted lives, purposely, knowingly killed for nothing. They are war criminals, starting with Biden.
At no time did the Biden monster make an honest attempt to stop the killings, at no time at all. He is only looking for more war, China is on his list.
LOL there is no other country more casualty adverse than the Americans , they learned hard lessons in Vietnam , one don`t fight a jungle war , and two have total air superiority , as with all the NATO LACKEYS with out total air superiority they won`t fight .
Just when one thinks these folks can’t get anymore depraved and then … 🎵Oops, there goes another moral line crossed🎵
To the soldiers of the Ukraine: you’ve put up a good fight, but it’s over and it’s time to lay the rifles down. Your leaders have played you for fools and you’ve shed your blood for the agenda of the West, not for your own security or benefit. There is no shame in defeat under these circumstances; only your leaders should feel shame for how they’ve lied to you while enriching themselves. You don’t have to surrender; all you need to do is go home peacefully. It is upon you to rebuild your nation and deal with your feckless leaders as you see fit.
These journalists are the types that served Hitler. Morally they are Hitler’s brothers and sisters.
In what way are people like Biden different from Hitler and his henchmen? Biden is senile and he does go to communion, maybe that makes him a notch better.