The US and its allies are worried that Ukraine’s stalled counteroffensive means the war between Russian and Ukrainian forces will be an open-ended conflict, The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.
The report said the US was hoping Ukraine would regain some territory and that would pave the way for a negotiated settlement, although the US has discouraged diplomacy throughout the war. “My hope is and my expectation is you’ll see that Ukraine makes significant progress on their offensive and it generates a negotiated settlement somewhere along the line,” President Biden said in Helsinki earlier this month.
But without significant Ukrainian gains, the West is preparing to support the proxy war against Russia for years to come. “The only real response is an industrial mobilization that will give Ukrainians, and the Russians, a clear message that the Ukrainians will always have plenty of what they need,” an unnamed Western diplomat told the Journal.
The diplomat said that the US might have to accept that the war won’t end anytime soon. Biden administration officials have repeatedly said they’re willing to arm Ukraine for “as long as it takes,” but it’s unclear if the US and its NATO allies can sustain support for Ukraine as officials are warning Western military stockpiles are running low. Time is also on Russia’s side as potential political changes in the US could impact the level of support Ukraine receives.
The Journal report said a stalemate could bolster the argument of those inside the US who oppose supporting Ukraine in the conflict, although opposition to the policy of pouring tens of billions of dollars in weapons into Ukraine is still relatively small in Congress.
A US official told the Journal that it’s still too early to assess the Ukrainian counteroffensive since Kyiv hasn’t committed all of its combat brigades that were trained by NATO. “If they commit their reserves and their reserves aren’t successful, then we will have to determine the way ahead,” the official said.
The Journal reported over the weekend that Western officials knew Ukrainian forces did not have enough training or equipment to dislodge Russian forces but hoped the counteroffensive would be successful anyway. Leading up to the counteroffensive, the Discord leaks and media reports revealed that the US did not believe Ukraine could regain much territory from Russia.
A European official quoted in the Journal article published Tuesday said his government does not believe Ukraine can regain all the territory Russia has captured. But the government in Kyiv maintains that recapturing all the territory is its goal, including Crimea, which Russia has controlled since 2014, demonstrating that the war will drag on as long as the US and NATO keep backing Ukraine.
“But without significant Ukrainian gains, the West is preparing to support the proxy war against Russia for years to come. “The only real response is an industrial mobilization that will give Ukrainians, and the Russians, a clear message that the Ukrainians will always have plenty of what they need,” an unnamed Western diplomat told the Journal.”
So, the diplomat is acknowledging that Russia can outproduce all of NATO?
Apparently Russia IS outproducing all of NATO.
US officials started saying this last Spring with Stingers and Javelins. They talked about Ukraine having enough ammo for roughly 13 Himar missiles a day. 13??? They bragged about sending over pathetically low numbers of tanks, and insufficient numbers of Bradleys for such a long front.
I thought it was an intentional lie. 100 tanks??? NO NO NO we meant 1,000 tanks!!!
Biden has also claimed that we have no more 155mm shells available for Ukraine. We cannot keep up with Ukrainian usage much less Russian usage.
Thomas Knapp is correct that statistically we should outproduce Russia in EVERYTHING.
But we did not advance to Crimea. The Ukrainians have done their part fighting as well as … better than what can be reasonably expected for the equipment we sent them. Progress is measured in meters. And this progress does not account for Russian advances in their own attacks.
“Thomas Knapp is correct that statistically we should outproduce Russia in EVERYTHING.”
Oh yeah. Without a doubt. Except snow, bears and vodka. Russians have homefield advantage in these industries.
Prove Russia is “outproducing” NATO. Russian sources or is it you fawning over the “strongman” Putin? You’re pathetic in your felatio of the Russian “emperor”!
Yes. Russia not only can, but already has and most certainly will.
It’s very easy for clueless western leaders to throw around terms like ‘industrial mobilisation’ like they are confetti. However, it hides the deep existential crisis that the West has been led into by exactly these leaders.
The truth is that for western economies to build a genuine military industrial capacity again will take decades. It’s not just about building the factories and machines, it’s about designing effective weapons for modern warfare (which they don’t have a clue how to do), as well as having the skills required to actually make them in native
populations (these skills don’t exist), many which take years of education and practical experience to develop.
It’s about having carbon based fossil fuel energy to build such a capacity (which means bye bye climate change), and an education system that prioritises maths, sciences and engineering.
Perhaps most importantly of all it’s about instilling pride and nationalism back into the country, to motivate citizens to join the effort.
Only if you have these things in place can a western society even start the journey of
building a military industrial capacity that comes even close to what Russia or China has right now. It is possible for western societies to do it, but will take at least 20 years + to achieve.
Until this journey starts, ‘military industrial capacity’ is just another meaningless term used by dumb western leaders, to refer to something that doesn’t and can’t exist.
It is my belief that Russia has been stockpiling for the past 30 years. It did not take a soothsayer to see what progress march to the East would result in.
For the moment, yes, Russia is outproducing NATO and holding all the cards that count. The only party to the conflict that can end the conflict is Ukraine. Think about it. NATO is “not a party to the conflict” (its own words) so how can it “surrender”? What would surrender mean? They can walk away any time. The USA could care less since they are prosperous and happy surrounded by two oceans. EU has no defense of its own. So they just have to take the humiliation. But they are used to it. Russia won’t surrender. The fight is existential (in their own words). For Ukraine the fight is also existential. Well, they should have given more thought before poking their larger neighbor in the eye with a sharp stick. They (meaning the Maidan-installed government) would never have dared, except they were led to believe NATO would have their back. Guess what? NATO is a big bag of wind. Best is to admit it and pledge never to join NATO and reach a hard-to-swallow agreement with the only country capable of offering both respite and security: Russia. But, hey! You want to continue? No problem.
In reality there is no parity between Russia and Ukraine, so all of this latest western blather is just hot air.
Russia has an overwhelming advantage in men, materiel not just in quantity but also quality. It also has escalation dominance that it can exploit at any time it chooses.
Russia has already won this war, or more accurately Ukraine has already lost it. The only question now is how badly Ukraine wishes to lose.
Instead of the amoral and despicable ‘leaders’ we have in the West, who are happy to see Ukraine ruined and it’s men slaughtered, if only we had western leaders with wisdom, who would advise Kiev to surrender on unconditional terms now to prevent further bloodshed, and also to negotiate the least worst settlement that they can.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/putin-running-out-options-ukraine
The guy makes the case that Russia-Ukraine will be an endless war – and it’s a legitimate view whether one disagrees or not – but he begins his case with a bunch of suppositions that he fails to support.
I don’t believe Ukraine lost anything. Ukraine does not exist as sovereign state so it can’t win or lose a war, moreover, Russia doesn’t even consider the clean up operation in Ukraine as a war. The only loser in this conflict is the Anglo-American empire. They’ve already lost incredible amounts of (stolen) wealth and they are determined to lose everything. Personally, I don’t see any reason to interfere. I enjoy watching the collapse of this degenerate empire.
Well, Blackrock stands ready to own Ukraine. Here is a nice article from The American Conservative about just that: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/blackrock-plots-to-buy-ukraine/
Own how? Their deals were/are made with a terrorist regime. It’s null and void by default. Why should Russia honor it?
The only question now is how badly Ukraine wishes to lose.
That Ukraine’s wishes ever figured in anything having to do with it’s destiny was never in question… They don’t.
“if only we had western leaders with wisdom, who would advise Kiev”
o well, so long as we’re going in a wish fulfillment fantasy direction…let’s indulge one of the big ones – the fantasy of justice:
“if only we had” progressive movements with the strength to lock up the sociopath neocon “western leaders” we’ve actually got in hospitals for the criminally insane…
…because “wisdom” won’t fix their creepy sick f. brains – they’re irredeemably broken – the doctor mengeles’ of war – nothing but permanent incarceration to keep them from doing more terrible harm.
“Russia has…escalation dominance….”
Even Not So Antiwar (as it turned out) President Obama knew this:
Obama’s theory here is simple: Ukraine is a core Russian interest but not an American one, so Russia will always be able to maintain escalatory dominance there.
“The fact is that Ukraine, which is a non-nato country, is going to be vulnerable to military domination by Russia no matter what we do,” he said.
I asked Obama whether his position on Ukraine was realistic or fatalistic.
“It’s realistic,” he said. “But this is an example of where we have to be very clear about what our core interests are and what we are willing to go to war for…..
“People respond based on what their imperatives are, and if it’s really important to somebody, and it’s not that important to us, they know that, and we know that,” he said. “There are ways to deter, but it requires you to be very clear ahead of time about what is worth going to war for and what is not. Now, if there is somebody in this town that would claim that we would consider going to war with Russia over Crimea and eastern Ukraine, they should speak up and be very clear about it. The idea that talking tough or engaging in some military action that is tangential to that particular area is somehow going to influence the decision making of Russia or China is contrary to all the evidence we have seen over the last 50 years….
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/#3
And there you have it! The Ukraine was, is and is always going to be far more important to Russia than to the USA. Putin knows it, and the US government, for all its bluster and “talking tough,” knows it too. There is no step that the US can take, not supplying artillery, missiles, armor, jets, etc., that the Russians cannot or will not see, and raise. Russia will go to war, the USA will not. Obama said all this back in 2016, by the way. He knew, after he sponsored the Maiden coup, and Crimea and eastern Ukraine revolted, that sending military aid to the Ukies was NOT the answer. And so he kept that aid small, and “non lethal.”
The famous “pillows and sheets,” as Trump ridiculed it. Or “blankets and meals,” as McCain put it.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-ukraine-military-aid-sheets-pillows-fact-check/index.html
https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110331/documents/HMKP-116-JU00-20191211-SD994.pdf
Yes, but why did he authorize Nuland & Brennan’s Maidan coup?
He didn’t. Just like Creepy Joke, mr.Obama is simply a puppet, I suspect Mr.Kissinger had more to do with imperial invasion of Ukraine. It was a brilliant geopolitical move that left Kremlin with two very bad choices. Seems like his style as well. After all, it was Mr.Kissinger who drove a wedge between USSR and PRC.
Interesting thought. So now he’s working his seductive charms on Xi to betray Putin … ??
Well, he isn’t as young as he used to be but still sharp enough to recognize when someone is trying to screw him. Not bad for a 100 y/o Jew.
There were some (pathetic) CIA attempts to sow discord between RF and PRC since 2014. Nothing that could be attributed to ol Henry.
Why did he pick Hillary Clinton to run the world for him?
For the femmi-Nazi vote of course, … the abortion people.
Very good question! He half-stepped. Just as Bush Junior did in Bucharest in 2008. Either the Ukraine is in NATO and the USA is committed to defend it against Russia, come hell, high water, or even nuclear weapons. Or, it isn’t, and the Russians will always have escalation dominance. I can only speculate that Obama thought that the Russian response would be other than what it was, or that, even anticipating the revolt in Crimea and eastern Ukraine, the US and NATO were still better off with “half a loaf,” with the rest of the Ukraine (including Kiev, Kharkov and Odessa), than they would have been if Yanukovych remained in power, and did a comprehensive deal with Putin, “costing” the West ALL of the Ukraine. As it turned out, it seems pretty clear that Putin was not going to escalate further (he refused to annex the Donbas, he did not go to war). If Trump, and even more so, Biden, had left it at that, there still might not have been a war. But Trump started the ball rolling, with lethal aid to the Ukraine, and Biden deliberately provoked Putin, and here we are…
Mr. Trump withdrew the U.S. from the INF Treaty with Russia. Putin was not happy. At all.
I have long wondered if Obama and Hillary had an understanding that allowed her a greater level of independence than she would otherwise have had. Was the Euromaidan coup something he truly endorsed? Or did he just go along with her?
If there was such an understanding, I think it ended when Obama realized that he didn’t have the votes to authorize a military intervention in Syria.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/21
Hillary was no longer SOS when the Maiden thing went down. So, I dunno about that….
And, in any event, Obama was president, and the buck has to stop with him.
I will say that Hillary was a huge “hawk” in his Administration, favoring the “surge” in Afghanistan (in opposition to VP Biden, as it happened), the war in Libya, and arming the rebels in Syria.
My understanding is that, if anyone, it was actually Biden who pushed for the Maiden coup in the Obama Administration. Isn’t Nuland his creature (he just promoted her)?
The Maidan coup was really just another color revolution, like the earlier one in 2004. It’s a US technique to destabilize and overthrow regimes they don’t like, while making them appear to be a pro-democracy movements.
This assumes Barry was himself a neocon acolyte, … Western Elite global hegemony and all that??
No, he was actually all in, and talking out of both sides of his mouth.
This is a good interview with Stephen Cohen (RIP, professor emeritus of Russian studies and politics at New York University and Princeton University) in 2014:
https://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/20/a_new_cold_war_ukraine_violence
Obama has to take responsibility for the coup. Whether he was “all in” on it or not. B/c, as I said, he was the prez and the buck has to stop with him. On the other hand, he did nothing to bring the Ukraine into NATO, and he refused to send “lethal aid” to the post coup Ukie regime.
Slight of hand. Private defense contractors were shipping arms directly.
United States: From Direct Commercial Sales to Lethal Security Assistance
In a rare show of bipartisanship in 2014, the US Congress passed the Ukraine Freedom Support Act, which appropriated $350 million in security assistance, including anti-tank and anti-armor weapons, to the government of Ukraine to defend its territorial integrity. Despite strong congressional backing, President Barack Obama decided not to authorize the US government sale or financing of lethal weapons to Ukraine. However, this policy did not prevent the private export of US-made lethal weapons to Ukraine.
During the Obama administration, direct commercial sales of small shipments of lethal arms to Ukraine were reviewed, approved, and licensed on a case-by-case basis by the Department of State in consultation with the Department of Defense. The US government authorized nearly $27 million of commercial defense articles and services to Ukraine in 2016 and about $68 million in 2015, portions of which are classified as lethal weaponry.
And don’t forget that secret CIA training of Azov and other battalions was conducted in the US south beginning in 2014.
Great post. I note that Russia’s covert hypersonic program accelerated from 2008, when the despicable Obama came on the scene.
While his FBI and CIA goons were illegally spying on and targeting innocent Americans, and while Obama and his incompetent clownshow was making up lies about Russian collusion, Obama and his goons totally missed the hypersonic program.
Iran, North Korea and China now all have hypersonic weapons.
The West doesn’t.
It’s the worst failure of intelligence in US history, an outrage and a debacle that has, is and will cost the United States dearly.
Hypersonic missiles are a failure. They’ve been shot down with relative ease by the Patriot system.
All you’re doing here is mentally masterbating.
Please provide credible evidence of even one Kinzhal being taken out by Ukrainian AD systems, including the junk Patriot system.
https://twitter.com/Azovsouth/status/1684145814090973185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1684145814090973185%7Ctwgr%5E79e0b0a00ae757163056a1bc2bb92691d2789233%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstories%2F2023%2F7%2F26%2F2183361%2F-More-Russian-stuff-blowing-up-plus-Moldova-boots-Russian-diplomats
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1684125524338040832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1684125524338040832%7Ctwgr%5E79e0b0a00ae757163056a1bc2bb92691d2789233%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstories%2F2023%2F7%2F26%2F2183361%2F-More-Russian-stuff-blowing-up-plus-Moldova-boots-Russian-diplomats
Your point being what exactly?
You wrote:
“Ukraine is a broken shell and cannot escalate.”
I showed you that you’re wrong.
What “negotiated settlement” they are talking about? If they wanted to negotiate, they had plenty of opportunities in the last 8 years. All peace agreements were systematically sabotaged by NATO. Since the coup 2014 Ukraine was pushed to the military confrontation with Russia. And now, when they got what they wished, they are talking about “negotiated settlement”. Did they forgot that 15 months ago Boris Johnson was sent to Kiev specifically for sabotaging the peace agreements? All their “negotiated settlements” have only one goal: gain some time for rearmament and then start the war again.
Kremlin propagandist with standard baseless claims.
Yet these claims consistently come to pass while you imperialist shills are constantly shown up as liars.
Y’know, without you harpies egging them on, Ukraine might have sued for peace long ago, thwarting Putin’s scheme for World conquest…
Thank you for your service!
Ukraine will not “sue for peace”. They will fight until the last Russian soldier is off their land.
“The US and its allies are worried that Ukraine’s stalled
counteroffensive means the war between Russian and Ukrainian forces will be an open-ended conflict”
No the Ukrainian military will collapse around September and Russia will go to the Dnieper River.
If Poland enters the conflict in Western Ukraine Russia will go all the way to the Polish border.
If Joey Biden keeps it up Russia will go to infinity and beyond! By the dawns early light humans will be in an extinction level event.
Russia is DEFINITELY ready to start winning! I swear!
Hahaha.
You are a sad, sad little man …. er … or whatever gender you are this week.
Reality bites, huh?
Biden told an audience in Helsinki this week that “the answer is… Putin has already lost the war.” That comment suggests that either Biden has no idea what is happening on the ground, or that Biden himself is 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 to assure that the war is an open-ended conflict.
Biden seems to think that Russia will eventually deplete its resources if the war lasts long enough. I’m not sure that he’s wrong about that. Putin must therefore demilitarize Ukraine sooner rather than later.
It’s too soon, in my opinion, to know if Russia can beat the clock. But, I agree that if Ukraine runs out of artillery shells and trained personnel because of their failed counteroffensive, there is a chance Russia could advance all the way to the Dnipro River in the coming months.
If Poland enters the conflict, all bets are off. Putin has already signalled that Russia might look the other way if Poland attempts to annex parts of western Ukraine. But he has also made it clear, in both words and actions, that if Poland attacks Belarus, the gloves will come off.
He also said he cured cancer. Just when you think he said the stupidest thing ever, he keeps talking.
Russia is self sufficient in energy, food, and all raw materials needed to prosecute a war for years if needed. Russian warehouses have 30 years of ordnance that they can draw upon. Russian factories are making millions of shells a month now. There is no clock for Russia and no imperative to end the conflict sooner than later.
If Zelensky draws Poland into Western Ukraine Belarus has already put them on notice that they will act. If Poland attacks Belarus all bets are off on article 5 since it is null and void. President Putin has already indicated that Russia would use it’s entire inventory of weapons in that case.
Then there is the Suwałki Corridor. Poland just move troops to its boarder causing concerns by Russia.
The Suwałki Corridor is a 60- to 100-kilometre, ill-defined strip of land officially situated along the Polish-Lithuanian border. It connects Belarus with the Russian oblast of Kaliningrad.
The battle for Eastern Ukraine is lost and almost over for Ukraine. The battle for Western Ukraine and Poland is about to begin.
Russian warehouses have 30 years of ordnance that they can draw upon.
So all we gotta do is wait for 30 years and then – POUNCE!…
As always, Murdoch propaganda rag is completely delusional. The question now is what major city will be liberated first? Kharkov or Odessa? I imagine Kremlin will wait to inflict maximum political damage on the imperial regime. They also have enough forces in Belarus to completely cut off the empire from Ukraine.
“I imagine”
I’ve noticed.
Congratulations. You’ve learned how to read your native language. Only few words out of a sentence but this is great progress!
Unlike that counter-counter-offensive…
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-war-latest-russian-troops-204129577.html
https://www.bitchute.com/video/sKJOro9v9FzQ/
https://twitter.com/Teoyaomiquu/status/1683880873735729152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1683880873735729152%7Ctwgr%5E5df32dce5fbb10ecfd1120420a288f8b52780e5b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstories%2F2023%2F7%2F25%2F2183261%2F-Ukraine-Update-One-town-south-of-Bakhmut-is-liberated-and-another-is-almost-there
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AIRqG9c3LmY5/
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1683689199059210241/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1683689199059210241¤tTweetUser=Osinttechnical
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AIRqG9c3LmY5/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv9zXiZZfms
https://www.bitchute.com/video/RZzyOJ0vgQC1/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2n3DGUCZN4g
https://www.bitchute.com/video/O901W5L2VVPK/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=31urudfCzQ4
https://www.bitchute.com/video/x0rraIKlcCfi/
You can get news about the front lines from a variety of sources and mappers – biased or unbiased – they say the same. But anyone reporting from within Ukraine would be in a jail cell to say the same when things don’t go its way.
Most likely, when the Uke-Nazi “counter-offensive” completely fizzles out, the Russians will slowly but steadily move westward to the Dneiper River. Nearly everything the West claims is happening in Ukraine a lie.
Yes, they are assuming the “enemy” will not constantly change its tactics … very bad assumption in any war.
OK Colonel Macgregor. Let me know when the Russians hit Odessa. Wasn’t that 18 months ago?
It seems like Wagner was the only group actually interested in occupying land, and now with them gone I’m not sure Russian standard troops are even up to the task without further escalation and troops.
You mean Solidar and Artyomovsk (aka Bakhmut)? It was a major supply hub for the imperial assault on Donbass. Clearing out that rat nest wasn’t only about liberating the city. Liberating and holding land isn’t the objective. The objective is to basically kill Pentagon filth in Ukraine. It’s a clean up operation.
Colonel MacGregor is a scholar and a warrior. His analysis of the war in Ukraine is spot on. As the situation changes on the ground, so do the tactics. Russia is fighting a defensive war and thus destroying the Uke-Nazis systematically as they attempt to advance through dense mine-fields, overlapping artillery fire, > 2,000 main battle tanks, tank traps, dragons teeth, etc. Ukraine does not have air superiority and will not succeed in the history of things to come.
He’s a total toolbag who hasn’t been correct this entire war. He’s probably on Putin’s payroll.
Bad example. Odessa has been hit by missile strikes regularly since Russia declined to renew the grain deal.
“But without significant Ukrainian gains, the West is preparing to support the proxy war against Russia for years to come. “The only real response is an industrial mobilization that will give Ukrainians, and the Russians, a clear message that the Ukrainians will always have plenty of what they need,” an unnamed Western diplomat told the Journal.”
Oh no … endless war that allows us to endlessly feed the gaping maw of MICIMATT …. how terribly unfortunate for the “unnamed western diplomat.”
Seeing as how this whole thing including even the very continued existence of NATO is about the care and feeding of the Complex, a stalled war would seem to be ideal. However, it takes two to tango … anyone tell this diplomat that Russia may switch to a foxtrot instead?
The report said the US was hoping Ukraine would regain some territory
Hope for breakfast when you get up tastes better than hope for supper before bed.
For the sake of the Ukrainian people I hope the waring sides can find an end to this war. As far as the rest of the world is concerned? Putin must not win here. He has to be made to pay a price for his impatience and lack of vision. He let cold war tactics deployed by foreign agencies suck him into overt military action in Ukraine. Now he’s left holding the bag.
I kinda agree with you. He should pay the price for allowing this imperial infection spread to Ukraine. He could have ended it back in 2014. But we can also blame Stalin for allowing this filth to spread in Europe.
But regardless of what we think, Russia already won.
Putin must not win here. He has to be made to pay a price
And what makes you think the West has the moral capacity to exact retribution?… They’ve all but demonstrated it doesn’t have the military might.
It’s not that they don’t have the military might. They do. The cost of going there however, means the destruction of the human race. That’s where the moral capacity comes in. Unless they’re total mad men they will not initiate WWIII. Putin and Medvedev on the other hand may be crazy enough to do so if they start getting pushed back far enough. Can you guarantee Putin will not go there?
“The cost of going there however, means the destruction of the human race.”
Don’t be so dramatic. The empire simply does not have the capability to initiate a war of such magnitude. The parasites in Washington and London aren’t suicidal.
The parasites in Washington and London aren’t suicidal.
Maybe not themselves. However, putting you and I in a suicidal no win situation. While they are holed up in their secure undisclosed locations. Not a problem.
No such thing today as “undisclosed location”. We live in the information age. There is nowhere they hide on this planet or even in space. No bunker that can save them from hypersonic missiles. And they know it.
That’s where the moral capacity comes in.
We demonstrated our moral capacity on Hiroshima and Nagasaki…
I can’t speak to anyone’s insanity but our own.
Seems Russia had been more than patient for a long time. How much longer should it have waited? Till missiles were in Ukraine pointed at it?
Russia could have countered clandestinely. Just like the West did with the Maidan Revolution in 2014. It takes time, money, and people willing to orchestrate that kind of clandestine counteroffensive. Russia used to be good at it.
Yes, USSR was good at it. But USSR was destroyed by the so-called “west” because people believed the imperial lies. Countering and pushing out the imperials out of Ukraine would not have stopped that filth to continue to destabilize Europe, Mideast and Asia. A more permanent solution is to build up sociopolitical and socioeconomic forces to destroy the Empire of Lies for good. Ukraine, unfortunately, is just a pawn in this grand geopolitical war.
I think perhaps you play too many board games.
“Russia could have countered clandestinely. Just like the West did with the Maidan Revolution in 2014.”
Maidan was a coup, not a revolution. And US involvement was only clandestine for people paying no attention at all to international relations. So many prefer reality TV shows and football games, ya know.
CIA and MI6 were knee deep in the Maidan event. Just like the SBS was responsible for the latest drone strike on the Kerch Bridge which Kiev quickly claimed responsibility for. Cut me a break ya know.
“He let cold war tactics deployed by foreign agencies suck him into overt military action in Ukraine.”
Those tactics weren’t subsiding. To the contrary.
No one “wins” this … at best, Russia will come out with some security gains to balance against already accrued losses like Finland and Sweden and etc.
Sweden doesn’t matter. Finland could end up being a thorn in Russia’s side. Perhaps, if things don’t end the way NATO wants them to in the Ukraine, Finland will reconsider its rash decision.
I hope so … the Finnish middle way was an inspiration, previously.
What drivel. Putin lives in the real world where consequence are always real. Biden and company, on the other hand, live in a fantasy world of their own making, like children.
Explain – in detail – exactly what Putin should have done when we all found out that Minsk was nothing but a dodge and hustle to insert NATO training and weapons into Ukraine.
what Putin really did was to keep uncle sam’s hands off of Crimea
Politicians can never admit mistakes.
Losing a war is a very big mistake.
The last thing Biden needs is another mistake with a election coming up so it’s better to keep the lie going and say it’s going well.
There’s plenty of “squirrels” to divert public opinion away from this war anyway so why not keep it going?
I’m watching a crackhead squirrel entering a courtroom as I type….
Won’t look too good on his resume, will it.
Nope, it sure wouldn’t.
Keeping the chickens plentiful and cheap is all that matters and as long as they can say everthing else is going swell they get reelected and become multimillionaires on government salaries.
I agree. Biden can not afford a “surrender” until AFTER November 5, 2024. A negotiated peace that could be sold as something better than a complete surrender, perhaps. But anything like a second Afghanistan ending would probably be fatal to Biden.
Biden can’t but then it may be Harris’s decision soon.
Hunter’s plea deal just fell through.
“Hunter’s plea deal just fell through.”
And a new one was promptly substituted for it.
But it’s still nowhere near over. Especially for Joe.
The new one is a stopgap it appears if CNN’s reporting holds.
This is getting 🍿 interesting…..
I’ve got yellow and red w/o hulls plus a butter churn myself.
CNN got ahead of itself.
FNC: Pleads not guilty in tax case, no plea deal.
Wow!
They won’t have enough votes in the senate to convict. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I’d rather Biden than Harris.
Proxy war without end…
This is what Uncle Sam does – every time. This is what happens when you live in a bubble.
The Journal reported over the weekend that Western officials knew Ukrainian forces did not have enough training or equipment to dislodge Russian forces but hoped the counteroffensive would be successful anyway.
My house was on fire, so I threw a gallon of water on it. I knew it wouldn’t be enough water to put out the fire but I HOPED it would put out the fire anyway.
Mixture of faith and fake presumption… Lol…!
You’re nice … USGOV would have given the gallon to a patsy and have them enter the house and pour it on the fire.
Wow. I was taken aback by the “nice” comment. I’ll have to work on that. 😉
In other news, Victoria, “Yat’s our man” Nuland is now the Acting Deputy Secretary of State. Very disturbing news.
Who is in control of Biden? Who is in charge of the executive branch of government? Where is the so-called free press, the journalists who should be asking the question?
Looks like Democracy is dead.
Nuland now controls everything Including Russia. How sad that one woman can have such a super power.
DRINK!
But you do support her policies, so what is your beef? I do know why I despise the woman, it is because she is evil, a female monster without any kind of integrity and decency. And demented Biden promoted her. That is the kind of government the Democrats created. Putin has a Lavrov and demented Biden has Nuland and Blinken, what a difference in competence and quality.
Now she will control your boy Putin. Lol
I call BS. Open-ended war is what any war pig would want. Unlimited gruel.
A better explanation would be that the US hopes to create an open ended conflict, as better than the total failure and defeat now facing it.
The US imagines an insurgency, like Syria or Afghanistan, that would bleed Russia. Of course, it would bleed the center of Europe too, but the nuts in DC really don’t care about that remember Nuland wanted to “f— the EU” too.
A quick Ukrainian conventional defeat, followed by an endless guerilla war, might have suited the USA more than what has transpired. Guerilla wars are cheap to fight, especially if you are backing the guerillas. For a few bucks, many fewer than keeping Zelensky happy is now costing the USA, a guerilla war could have simmered for years. A Russian occupation of all of the Ukraine, which the Americans probably figured the Russians desired (because that’s what they would have done!), would have provoked a genuine insurgent movement, and then all the US would need do is keep it stocked with Stingers, javelins, RPGS, small arms, explosive devices, intel, and so on. No need, or even reason, to send artillery, rockets, missiles, armour, endless ammunition, or jets.
Ukraine was a “real country.”
Then it threatened its neighbors and provoked an existential war — which it has now lost.
So now, it is no longer a real country. It lost that. Rightly so. Just as Prussia is now in Poland, and Alsace-Lorraine is in France.
That not real country has destroyed 60% of your sh!t army and has humiliated your emperor in Moscow. The reason you are now attacking Cathedrals in Ukraine.
You steaming piece of excrement. .
The Ukrainians will all way`s have what they want ? , except man power which they are fast running out of , so the war will end when the last Ukrainian is DEAD is that NATO`S plan ? and have they told Zelensky ?. Putin has the man power and can stay the course because sanctions have failed , and it looks like NATO is going to lose AGAIN so soon after the Afghanistan defeat as well .
I’m feeling like the old man felt in True Detective Season 1, Episode 2 starting at 41 seconds in this clip: https://youtu.be/iIzS–c-PH8?t=42 But I do hope “the world keeps spinning.” (Sarcasm alert)
Morons who think this war will last much longer (aside from X months of this and that, since moving troops and logistics around does take time) should check out my last two articles on Substack in which I demonstrate the overwhelming failure of Ukraine and NATO and calculate the remaining time in this war:
Another Less-Than-Short Ukrainian Interlude…
Wherein I explain how I calculate Ukrainian losses and estimate the remaining length of the war…
https://richardstevenhack.substack.com/p/another-less-than-short-ukrainian
A Comment in Response to a Comment…
Wherein I calculate Russian losses in the Ukraine conflict…
https://richardstevenhack.substack.com/p/a-comment-in-response-to-a-comment
And before that moron Knapp rolls in with his usual “but you said it would be over in three days” nonsense, please note “that was then, this is now.” One learns what one doesn’t know in the intervening 18 months.
Something Knapp is incapable of.
I look forward to reading your Substack analysis. My opinion remains (as it’s been since last May) that it’s eventually going to revert to “frozen conflict” with the Russians retaining Donetsk, Luhansk, and a land corridor to Crimea. But just because you were wrong at the beginning and I’ve seemed right so far, that doesn’t mean you aren’t right, and me wrong, now.
You can stop touching yourself over your Substack articles. Rybar is freaking out about the Ukes offensive in the Robotyne area (Rybar’s map):
https://rybar.ru/piwigo/upload/2023/07/26/20230726093439-14f8aa3d.jpg?utm_source=t.me&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=t.me&utm_referrer=t.me
That’s a considerable “push”. Hahaha
Something of the History of Ms. Victoria Nuland . . . She had excellent mentors who made very clear that, for Washington as with London and Western European States, there is no state sovereignty.
https://les7eb.substack.com/p/washingtons-ukraina-grandioznaya
So now the propositions before us, my fellow Ukrainians, is: “Who wants to have the glorious distinction of being the last Ukra-Nazi to die for Victoria Nuland?”
You mean the Nuland Vampire, a Frankenstein family member? Does she have baby Frankenstein monsters?
Frankenstein was a misunderstood monster. Nuland is pure monster.
The USA and NATO ALLIES know exactly what it takes to end the killings and destruction. They don’t want to stop it because it is profitable, and American Biden neocons are killers as long as the others get killed. The Nuland promotion says it all. They will go on funding the war, since it is such a cheap way to kill Russians while Ukrainians pay with their lives. They are bad people.
Ahhh, yes. All of the Putin fan-boys and Russian war mongers are out today working themselves into a lather!
You’re all wrong and you are showing your true colors: Putin war good; Western war bad.
You all sound like a record skipping in your little echo chamber. Ukraine is rolling back the Russian lines and you’re deluding yourself with talking points sent by Russian bots.
I WILL enjoy watching as you all fade away when Russian troops fall back.
Slava Ukraini, tankies!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erictegler/2023/07/26/ukraine-is-on-track-to-get-f-16smaybe-by-this-fall/?sh=2ef6e7f96d0b
What do we call the propaganda hacks working for Ukraine?
We ought to call them the same thing we ought to admit about Victoria Nuland — war crimingal.