NATO to Draw Up Russia War Plans for First Time Since Cold War

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1. ”NATO is drawing up plans on how to fight a war with Russia for the first time since the Cold War.”

   I’m not convinced – the Neocons have trying for the last 20 years as if their careers depended on this.

   1. Try since the end of WWII.

2. Cottereau seems to be finished with his plan. But he clearly neglects the most important question: If you perfectly know how this can result in total annihilation of the human race, WHY DO IT????? (Sarcasm alert)

   1. Because annihilation of the human race is part of the plan. I suspect that the real “powers that be” are not even human anymore, maybe some AI profit algorithm like what now controls the hedge funds. At any rate they don’t seem to have much use for actual human beings.

      1. So who will be our Solidus?

         1. Hunter Biden

            1. Hunter Biden on one side, Don Trump jr on the other, just to appeal to both sides

            2. Now that’s a twist I can get behind

            3. “Everybody’s gonna get laid!!”

3. Sounds like the Finnish are all in to win “the Darwin Awards.” (Sarcasm alert)
   P.S. “The Darwin Awards are a tongue-in-cheek honor that originated in Usenet newsgroup discussions around 1985. They recognize individuals who have supposedly contributed to human evolution by selecting themselves out of the gene pool by dying or becoming sterilized via their own actions.” –Google.

4. Plans for war. Result Extinction.

   1. I’m sure they are working on how to automate the petroleum industry so that extraction can continue even after we’re all dead.

      1. Via AI probably, like Skynet

5. Planning is fun and lucrative, and “everybody has a plan til they get punched in the face” (Iron Mike).

   1. My absolutely favorite quote ever!

6. NATO is drawing up plans on how to fight a war with Russia for the first time since the Cold War.

   as if there hasn’t been plans to fight a war with Russia since even before the collapse of the Soviet

7. Somehow, someway MAD has disappeared.

   1. This is why talk of being able to shoot down a hypersonic missile is madness. The MAD defense is viable again. But it seems as if a lot of people haven’t figured that out yet.

   2. Not really. The Anglo-American parasites are mad beyond recovery. Completely suicidal. But the concept of mutually assured destruction went away with introduction of hypersonic missiles.

      1. “But the concept of mutually assured destruction went away with introduction of hypersonic missiles.”

         In your imagination, perhaps. In the real world, the equation has not changed. And it’s reasonable to assume that the political and military powers that be in Russia aren’t idiots who think it has.

         1. You can repeat your worn out mantra as much as you like. It will not change reality.

            1. And you can repeat your weirdo murder fantasies as much as you like without changing reality either.

         2. I don’t know about leaders in Russia or the U.S. realizing that a Nuclear Exchange would be the end of all things when one looks at the history of war. If a country was willing to drop atomic bombs twice on cities in Japan, I have no doubt that in a major conflict the side that is losing wouldn’t hesitate to use some of these more powerful weapons.

            1. The Japanese were cruising for 50 years before they got it.They attacked the US,tortured our POWs,and had no retaliatory capacity.

      2. Oh boy. Then those who aren’t mutually destroyed will wish they had been mutually destroyed.

8. Not “respond to a Russian attack.” It is how to attack Russia, which is what they have been doing since the end of the Cold War.

9. These people always go out of their way to imply that war plans are purely defensive. If you believe that, I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.

10. I believe NATO had already completed it’s war plans against both Russia and China years ago. But then China took over the South China Sea and Russia took over Crimea and East Ukraine leaving NATO to draft a Plan B?

11. Drawing up plans is not the same as executing plans. The longer this goes on the closer we get to dedollarization, which spells the end of the United States being able to assert itself around the world. It couldn’t come soon enough for me. The failure of the sanctions should have taught these people that they are not dealing with imbeciles. They are the imbeciles.

    1. Nato countries will switch to a war economy in order to delay the inevitable collapse of the neoliberal scam by a couple of years. They will plunder our savings and devalue our currencies to feed the war machine and keep the economy going before it all collapses.

       1. Yes. And most of their citizens, who are primarily fixated on virtue signaling, and having no clue how things really work, will not see it coming until the noose has tightened on them.

          1. Yeah but the thing is, after tightening the noose, you need to keep it tight. That is a lot of necks and you will need a lot of power to keep everyone subjugated and oblivious to outside world. Not a viable long-term strategy.

       2. Yeah, that is likely but they will need to have iron grip on the population and maintain comfortable standards of living. Otherwise the puppet regimes in EU will fall like cards and countries will bolt from the empire. Turks and Hungarians will be first to abandon degenerate empire of lies. Czechia and France will follow. After that, total collapse of EU regime.
          In any possible scenario, I don’t see Anglo-American parasites maintaining occupation of Europe for very long. And that is without Kremlin doing anything. I seriously doubt they are filing their pretty nails on EU issue.

          Oh, forgot to mention that you need energy and industrial capacity and resources to build a war machine in Europe. I don’t see that happening since Eurasian Alliance secured Mideast. The Anglo-American empire is screwed from every angle. Their only hope is to somehow, someway start a war in Asia and PRC will punch their lights out.

          1. What may happen is that declining living standards will lead to popular unrest, which would have to be suppressed by fascist or authoritarian rule. Economic misery led to fascism at the end of the Weimar republic and in independent Ukraine.

             1. Yeah but the brutal suppression of the population will lead to even more brutal uprisings. It’s human nature. We’re seeing it in France. More economic decline and more misery ultimately facilitating mass exodus of population from these territories if the rebellions fail. They will simply bleed human resources. These regimes will have to put up iron walls to keep people in and spend massive amounts on law enforcement, again facilitating more economic decline.
                And again, I don’t think Russians will just sit back and watch. They will arm resistance movements.

12. NATO won`t do jack shit for two reasons one they wouldn`t have air superiority , and two Joe Public wouldn`t stand for the thousands of body bags coming home

    1. Pentagon won’t do anything because they hope to hide behind Europeans and Europeans won’t do anything because they rely for protection on Pentagon. Such mighty warriors lol

    2. it took 12 years . To end Viet Nam and a.very long.time in Iraq and Afganistan.We don’t have that much time left to stop the causes of.our destruction.

13. War lol. The North American Terrorist Occupation isn’t capable of war on such magnitude. Not only it is incapable from a technological, economic and military perspective, it is incapable by its cowardly nature. The Pentagon terrorists are only capable of fighting from a distance and hiding behind civilians. Same with cowardly English grunts or probably more so since this ‘fight from a distance’, ‘islander’ mindset is anglosaxon in origin. A war with a capable enemy would mean their total annihilation. They know it so they will try to sacrifice as much of their European vassals as possible in an attempt to weaken Russia but Europeans are not stupid. They know these parasites want to use them as cannon meat against Russia and they want no part of it. Both Kremlin and Beijing have zero interest in fighting a war in Eurasia and will go straight for the nukes. Kremlin openly said that first targets for Russian nukes are Washington and London.

    So this war nonsense is nothing but a bag of hot air from impotent parasites.

    1. I agree that the west is not equipped to fight a war with Russia and China, and can’t win that war if they try. But I don’t know about Russia going straight for the nukes. I hope you’re wrong about that.

       1. Why would they fight a conventional war, risk their population and infrastructure when they can simply remove the source of the problem? If they had nukes back in 41, they would have used it on Berlin. Anglo-American empire is a much bigger threat to Russia than Nazi Germany so I have absolutely no doubt they will go nuclear right from the start. There is no point in waiting for escalation and giving your enemy more room for maneuvering. Removing enemy command and control centers also gives them tactical advantage at defense and interception of any possible retaliatory strike.

          1. The only problem with that is that as soon as they launch, they guarantee that they themselves and everything they claim to be defending will cease to exist.

             1. Only in your dreams

          2. But it goes against their own doctrine for the use of nuclear weapons.

             1. Fedorov is already claimed attacks on Donbass republics justify nuclear strike on US. Since then there were many more serious violations. Depleted uranium shipment to Ukraine justify nuking of London. A conventional attack on Russian forces by Pentagon grunts will completely justify use of nuclear weapons. There is no way Putin will be able to resist the pressure since now even Medvedev is for nuclear escalation.

             2. There’s one angle that I think you’re not accounting for. In a nuclear exchange between Russia and the United States, there is no way that either side can stop all the other side’s missiles from hitting their targets. How many Russians would die in this exchange compared to how many Russian soldiers would die in a conventional war against NATO? How much damage from radioactive fallout would occur on the Russian homeland? I think Putin has considered this, and will stick to the Russian doctrine on the use of nuclear weapons.

             3. He seemingly thinks like some of our politicians and that a nuclear war is winnable, and Russia would be unscathed.

             4. I’m a lot more worried about the United States launching a first strike than Russia doing it. Especially considering the empty suits currently occupying leadership positions in the Biden administration.

             5. I doubt it. They will never risk their own survival. One thing the parasites care about more than wealth-power is their own pitiful existence.

             6. Not at all. I’m simply drawing strategic narratives based on available data. I don’t know how effective Nudol hypersonic interceptors at stopping ICBMs but it certainly looks like it’s possible. It does give Russia huge advantage in a nuclear war.

             7. “It does give Russia huge advantage in a nuclear war.”

                And there you go. A nuclear war means we’re ALL dead. Period.

             8. But that is the point. We are, not Russians and Chinese. They will survive it.

                Hanging on to old, cold war era concepts is simply delusional!

             9. You sound like you are the one that is delusional. MAD is more real today than at any time. Even the 1000’s of tactical nukes the US and Russia possess make those bombs the US dropped on Japan look like hand grenades.

             10. Don’t you think I know that?! They can shoot down our missiles before warhead separation! No big boom! No mushroom clouds, no radiation! Is it so hard to understand?!

             11. All of them? Subs too? And would the rest of the world sit idly by? Are you crazy?

             12. No crazier than the idiots in the War Room in Dr. Strangelove.

             13. Yes. Any ballistic missile. And yes. The rest of the world watched Pentagon destroy entire countries.

             14. So that’s a yes on the crazy question. And my question about the rest of the world pertained to those in possession of nukes. Russia might have to be concerned about incoming from different directions. But if they can neuter ALL of the US nukes, subs included, then no worries. Right?

             15. There are only 3 major nuclear powers. 2 of them want US gone.

             16. Presumably if Xi thinks Putin leans even slightly toward your kind of batshit insanity vis a vis nukes, he’s had a quiet word with him on the matter to assure him that Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc. would be smoking craters in the event of a Russian first strike on the US — whether it was the US that delivered the retaliatory strike or not.

             17. Idle threats with nothing substantial to back it up again? That’s just pathetic. Imperial filth tried to drive a wedge between RF and PRC and it only strengthened their alliance. Now entire world is against your little ‘western world’. Nobody is scared of impotent Pentagon thugs. Why is that so upsetting to you?

             18. Russia can take some hits just based on huge territory. US can’t, never mind England.

                 And obviously hypersonic interceptors give them huge advantage.

    2. Let humanity hope so.

       1. I’m happy to report that unlike the imperials, Kremlin doesn’t operate on hope. They are pragmatists and recently they have declared at the highest levels that imperials only understand the language of brute force. This is incredibly positive sign. The imperial regime need to be punished simply for existing. It tells me that they understand that this Anglo-American imperial filth are cowards. If this was Kremlin’s policy for the last 20 years, many wars could have been avoided. These cowards attacked small and defenseless nations because there was nobody to punish them. Now there is a force that can completely annihilate them and the pressure much be increased to maximum levels.
          Best hope for humanity is to remove the imperial regime completely and never let another one like it emerge again. I hope this could be done peacefully but considering the nature of these degenerate psychopaths, it is unlikely.

          1. They can do it through dedollarization and isolation. It will take a lot of time, but Russia and China have time, and they’re taking their time. They also have about 85% of the world on their side. And the western leaders are a bunch of morons who keep shooting themselves in the foot (economic sanctions on Russia and soon to come on China).

             1. Unfortunately that means more suffering for people within Anglo-American empire but it does looks like the course they are taking.

14. “If the Russians are massing troops on the border that will make us
    nervous, if we are massing troops on the border that will make them
    nervous.”

    In that case, maybe someone in NATO HQ should point out that it was Ukrainian forces massing just outside of the Donbass- massing for an assault on the ethnic Russian area- that first prompted the Russians to move troops to the Ukraine’s eastern border. This whole current situation could have been avoided had the Azov NZ’s not been let off their chain to attack the Donbass for years. I lay the current situation- and potential war between the US and Russia- squarely on the shoulders of US politicians bent on expanding the American Empire.

15. I normally don’t read fiction this early.

    Aside from regime change, NATO has nuclear weapons as the last and only option.

16. It is really, really f*cked. The last scene from Planet of the Apes just may be in our near future. “Damn you all to hell!” Or, perhaps On the Beach, as the last manned American sub slips under the waves for the last time.

    1. https://media3.giphy.com/media/Hc8PMCBjo9BXa/giphy-downsized-small.mp4

17. NATO/ the West can draw up as many war plans as they like, but they have precisely 0% chance of success until they develop a military industrial base that can sustain real warfare.

    They will also need to develop large, powerful armies, with hypersonic offensive and defensive weapons.

    To do this, they will need to get rid of pretty much all their current weak / incompetent political and military leaders, ditch climate change, teach kids to be proud of their country, re-introduce national service, purge universities of meaningless garbage degrees to focus on engineering, maths, science and tech.

    All this should take about 20-25 years.

    If they do the above they may have a fighting chance against the Russians and Chinese.

    1. This is all.going to be over much sooner
       then you think.You are being too optimistic about.human behavior.

18. How many times this 800 miles Finland-Russia border has been mentioned? And US troops acces. Tgere is somrthing triumphant about that.

    Well, Ukraine gambit failed, and the situation on ground can only deteriorate,militarily, economically, financially and politically. Time to prepare big boys for intervention.

    But nobody can count on Eastern Europe. The only reason they rushed into Western institutions was to speed up getting the taste of Western living standards, and the idealized lifestyle. Having learned that not all is gold that glitters, they are deeply unhappy with their lot. Look only at indebtedness and brain drain across Baltic Easten ans Southeastern Europe. Cynicsm has set in.

    While politicians there are perfectly performing their lines, hope nobody is under illusion that the populace is interested in fighting Russia.

19. What a marvellous way to reduce tensions.
    deescalate…. That Stoltenberg really is a piece of work.

20. Humanity, manifest in its relationships with each other these days is going swell. Nice to see humanity finally mature and grow up after such a long arduous violent adolescence…

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