Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba told The Associated Press on Monday that Russia must face a tribunal for alleged war crimes in Ukraine before direct peace talks can be held between Kyiv and Moscow.
The comments are the latest sign that there’s no end in sight to the fighting in Ukraine, as Russia would never comply with Kuleba’s conditions, and the US continues to escalate military aid and other kinds of support for Kyiv.
For his part, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Sunday that Moscow is prepared to negotiate an end to the war and that Ukraine and its Western backers were not. “We are ready to negotiate with everyone involved about acceptable solutions, but that is up to them — we are not the ones refusing to negotiate, they are,” he said.
Kuleba said that his country was hoping for a “peace” summit hosted by the UN to be held soon the get other countries on the same page, but Kyiv doesn’t want Russia to participate unless all of Ukraine’s conditions are met.
“The United Nations could be the best venue for holding this summit, because this is not about making a favor to a certain country,” Kuleba said. “This is really about bringing everyone on board.”
Another Ukrainian demand for talks with Russia is for Russian forces to withdraw from all the territory that’s been captured since the invasion. But Putin and other Russian officials have made clear that won’t happen and say Kyiv needs to recognize the “realities” on the ground.
After Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited Washington DC last week and President Biden pledged to support Ukraine for “as long as it takes,” Russian officials said it showed the US wasn’t interested in peace.
The US’s Military/Industrial Complex just got their huge payouts through Congress so one would think that maybe they could back off now and admit that pushing Ukraine to become a NATO member was a step too far. No. The US Deep State has been trying to destroy Russia since the break-up of the USSR and Ukraine is just their latest tool. I’m a US Conservative who is realizing that Putin’s Russia supports my conservative values more than the Communist Regime of Joe Biden.
They were not pushing Ukraine to become a NATO member – as long as Ukraine had a border conflict with Russia, there was no threat of Ukraine joining NATO – hence if they were then the first step would have to be to either push the Russians to leave Crimea or more likely acknowledge it as Russian – and do the same for the non controlled parts of the Donbas – did you see either happening – if not then you ought to know better.
In what way is it in the interest of a US conservative to have Putin in much better control over the energy resources of Europe (and Asia) or for Russia to be a much stronger opponent in global affairs – so just what conservative values is it that Putin supports better than Biden – just asking because it is interesting to me to know what conservative values it is that you hope he will spread/support?
Zelensky had already told the Turks and Russians that they really don’t need NATO when Boris took a fast flight to tell Zelensky he can’t do it, NATO is not ready yet.
Zelenskyy had not told anyone that they did not really need NATO but that they were willing to compromise on the NATO membership – that very likely because he (and a lot of Ukrainians) know that they are will not become members while having a territorial dispute and an internal conflict.
What Boris told Zelenskyy was not that NATO is not ready yet, if that was the case they would have wanted a compromise, but that NATO were not going to end their support for Ukraine and hence the Ukrainians did not need to compromise.
The Russians honor their agreements and contracts. They are reliable, Americans are not.
To keep ones word and honor contracts is very conservative.
The US does not keep its agreements that has been clear nearly from its creation. But I can see that the Russians are very different because this conflict is a clear sign that the Russians do not keep their agreements – as in they broke the Budapest agreement that is why we are here.
But perhaps you were thinking of some different way that the Russians keep agreements and the US does not?
Your question conflates my point that the Biden administration is against most of what I stand for. Putin doesn’t either but he’s a lot closer than Biden. I don’t see how that translates to, “I want Putin in control over the energy resouces of EU”. If Biden hadn’t put the Kibosh on US energy production, Putin would still be a small player. It is Biden’s policies that are putting EU in a bind and boosting Putin’s profits and production. You should work for the Democrat Party as a spokesperson you twisted my words so well. I see you spent a lot of time ‘taking me down a peg’ so I’ll let you be. Wish you the best.
“The US produced more energy last year than in any previous year except 2019, according to preliminary 2021 data.”
Not bad in the middle of reduced demand during the pandemic. And the federal oil leases that Biden signed in 2021 (more of them than the previous president approved in his own first year) have presumably not really begun delivering yet.
There are a lot of things wrong with Joe Biden and his use of executive power. ” “Putting the kibosh on US energy production” isn’t one of them, except in your fevered imagination.
The Devil is in the details. I work in the oil/gas industry. Those leases are on land nobody wants to drill on. Somehow, with all that production, prices broke new records. You can’t explain that. Prices and inflation were stable under President Trump. You must get your news from 100% pro-Biden sources to be so ignorant.
Interesting. Do you also consume 100% “pro-Biden” sources, or is your own ignorance explained by something else?
Does conflate not need (at least) two things to be conflated – if so what is the other thing(s)?
Biden is trying to prevent Putin from getting far better control over the energy resources of Europe and the energy flow to Europe – I would have thought a republican would be against monopoly – btw Putin was never a small player so he could not remain one.
No two points: 1) Putin’s prices are going down since the EU finally applied sanctions on Russian energy – Gas trading at or below its 2021 level and Ural oil trading below the price cap – 2) Biden’s policy is going to keep Putin from getting control over Ukrainian gas fields and hopefully also over the Azerbaijani gas pipeline to Europe in this way it is going to make it much more difficult for Putin to use energy as a weapon against EU.
I think the Republicans of old times would have embraced what I stand for and I’m sorry if you did not mean to say that you were for the plan Putin was/is trying to carry out in Ukraine. But still confused as to what republican values it is that you believe it is that Putin would be better at than Biden – you did not specify – but only deal with what it was not.
The NATO push was a clear instigation of a proxy war to weaken Russia.
Cart before the — ass? War crimes tribunal before any peace negotiations? Those Ukrainians are masters of coming up with unfeasible demands.
They repeat whatever the Senile Joe tells them to say.
There have been war crimes committed by Ukraine, even before the invasion. Does that count, too?
Obviously not.
I think we can count on war crimes trials when it’s over. So Zelensky and his Ukro-Nazi gang better get their rat lines ready along with their suitcases full of benjamins.
They’re doing it on purpose, as I’m sure you know. This is what happens when a low-IQ high school sophomore is in charge of a country.
I’m all for Ukraine’s war crimes to be prosecuted, but ending the war comes first. And maybe Russia has done some distasteful things too.
And maybe Russia….
Maybe??
In different news:
This is what the Russians like to call “We are ready for negotiations but Ukraine and West refuse to talk”
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov:
Dec 27 (Reuters) – Moscow’s proposals for settlement in Ukraine are well known to Kyiv and either Ukraine fulfils them for their own good or the Russian army will decide the issue, TASS agency quoted Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as saying.
“Our proposals for the demilitarization and denazification of the territories controlled by the regime, the elimination of threats to Russia’s security emanating from there, including our new lands, are well known to the enemy,” the state news agency quoted Lavrov as saying late on Monday.
https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-lavrov-either-ukraine-fulfils-moscows-proposals-or-our-army-will-decide-2022-12-26/
And?
As I understand history, in all of history nations would end wars with negotiations, they negotiated when they knew there was nothing to be gained continuing the war.
Americans ended that, for them it is UNCONDITIONAL surrender no matter what. It started in WWI and the Versailles humiliating, unconditional surrender. They had to kick the Germans when they were already down, to compromise to end the war, the killing and destruction was never considered. The second WW they used nuclear bombs on Japan when they had won the war already, and not just one, no it had to be two within 3 days and in Germany they went on their carpet bombing spree until the very last minute, killing and destroying, Dresden had to be leveled when the city was filled with refugees, women and children who’s husbands and fathers where dead, POWs, or still in the retreating army, they bombed the the left bank of the Rhein river when the troops were already in Berlin. They show no grace and dignity in victory and even less if that is possible as losers. After that there came the disgrace at the end in Vietnam and Afghanistan and the meanness the losers showed.
They beat up on the Afghan people for 20 years and when they lost they punished the people, women and babies included with savage sanctions and even robbed them of the nations funds outside of the country which the oh so generous criminal Biden was to use to compensate the 9/11 victims.
So viscous, mind boggling
President Wilson opposed the harsh penalties placed on Germany after WW1. As far as harsh treatment of Germany received during WW2, are you forgetting the extreme inhumanity that Germany meted out during that war? After the war,US money was spend by the Marshall plan to rebuild Europe.since when has the conqueror aided the vanquished?
I guess the “allies” were not so good to Germans either. They Dresden-ed the entire Germany.
Don’t remember that?
You just don’t get it. Don’t forget the extreme inhumanity any war causes, including all the American aggressions, like Vietnam, Iraq, the whole ME, millions of people killed and starving and the nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the bombing and killing in Korea, and much more. They needed Germany to be used against Russia. It is much more complex than you think, but at the bottom it is all about markets, resources profits and more power. Ideals are propaganda tools.
Biden still hasn’t released the frozen funds back to Afghanistan yet, as promised.
The man and his people are despicable, a national shame.
Almost a basket of deplorables.
Warlord Biden has blessed little shit Zelinsky with more than $84 BILLIONS in American tax payer money in the past 10 months. Talk about a grand theft….
They also leveled North Korean cities killing millions of citizens, used germ warfare as well. Vietnam is another story with citizens still inflicted with agent orange, napalm. birth defects, etc, etc.
As the horrendous Madeleine Notbright would say, manifest destiny, …….indispensible nation (sic).
I just recently read about the bioweapons.
“Madeleine Notbright ” so true, super.
For his part, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Sunday that Moscow is prepared to negotiate an end to the war and that Ukraine and its Western backers were not. “We are ready to negotiate with everyone involved about acceptable solutions, but that is up to them — we are not the ones refusing to negotiate, they are,” he said.
And Ukraine can even be involved.
Yes, Putin has said that he’s prepared to “negotiate,” but you left out part of that. Per RT:
“Moscow has also insisted that Ukraine must ‘recognize the reality on the ground,’ including the new status of the regions of Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, and Zaporozhye as parts of Russia, as a prerequisite for any peace talks.”
So basically any “negotiation” has to start from the premise that Putin gets everything he wants, while anything he doesn’t care about is “negotiable.”
Which seems to be Zelenskyy’s position as well.
I was making a sarcastic comment about how much “say” Ukraine will have.
So finally you recognize that Russia doesnt care about what Ukraine has to say in any negotiations.
This is the kind of negotiations Russia has been offering since December?
Jesus, you are a tool. I was talking about the influence that the US/NATO have over Ukraine and how little say Ukraine actually has. That was proven in April when Boris was sent in to put a kibosh to those negotiations. Ukraine is and will continue to be the US/NATO’s sacrificial lamb. Something you continue to cheer on.
Negotiations start with with wish lists. That’s why they’re called negotiations. Each party has to concede some ground. But no one ever goes into a negotiation, with, “Okay, you get it all”. Zelensky is the all or nothing guy. But that is not a negotiation, it is demanding complete surrender of the other party.
No, the difference is that Zelensky has absolutely no intention to negotiate – as the absurdity of every position he’s advanced is clear to any fool. He is following Blinken’s lead and improvising. Your point is unbalanced in the extreme.
Sometimes the rhetoric associated with two points of view cannot be balanced.
How is Zelenskyy having absolutely no intention to negotiate, while claiming he’s willing to negotiate, different from Putin having absolutely no intention to negotiate, while claiming he’s willing to negotiate?
Negotiation presupposes the willingness of the negotiating parties to give up some things in return for other things. At this point, none of the involved parties are willing to even talk about giving anything up.
I cannot believe you take your assumptions about the Russian position as equivalent to the sophomoric bullshit from the movie actor. The Russian assumptions are in part predicated on the inhumane treatment eastern Ukraine has already suffered at the hands of the Azov and their friends in DC for going on 9 years now.
Please explain to me on what basis the Russians should trust the Ukrainians and Americans to reverse course in the Eastern Oblasts. Please be specific and keep it real.
Another question: How many invasions of Western Ukraine have been carried out by the rebels in the Oblasts since 2014? Please bear in mind that the government hatched by the 2014 coup could hardly be considered legitimate outside Washington DC.
To your last point: What the government of Ukraine has to give up is its attempt to harass and terrorize the Russian speaking people of the East. And as to the Russians. What basis have they been provided to believe that if they return to the status quo ante, the Eastern Oblasts would be safe from the Aholes in Kiev?
Since I never suggested that the Russians and Ukrainians should trust the Ukrainians and Americans in any way, shape, manner, or form, why would I need to “explain” such a suggestion?
Can’t answer because I cannot get by Disqus’ idiotic verification that I’m not a robot. I’ve enjoyed the exchanges here, but since I can’t access the site through Disqus’ crap, I’ll say good bye and good luck.
No.
Maybe is your Russian IP.
Aren’t you the troll calling everyone that you disagree with, troll?
Even Disqus rejects you. Lol.
Add in that the Minsk agreement was a complete sham so that the EU and NATO could put sleeper cells in Russia, build up arms and start CIA training. There was never any good faith on the part of Ukraine. And Zelensky was elected by the people of Ukraine to bring peace. That’s what Russian-speaking voters thought, anyway.
Wow! Sometimes you can be both, dumb and naive.
You have Putin so up your rear end, he wont let you think straight.
What the f*ck does Putin have to do with what I said? It isn’t Putin not allowing Ukraine to negotiate as was proven in April. My comment was about the influence others have over Ukraine making their participation in negotiations nothing more than for show. Again, if Ukraine had any kind of say as to what they are allowed to do then Boris would have been told to go f*ck himself back in April. You like to ignore that little slice of history though and once again you try to label me as pro-Putin. I guess ever since I exposed you as someone who respected Putin before you didn’t, you’ve been hellbent on trying to prove that I was once like you. It’s not working.
The Chicken Little of Europe peeps again. What a jerk Zelensky is, and our political elite lines up to kiss his ass.
He’s the ventriloquist’s dummy, his mouth moves but the Pentagon is really speaking.
That is great!!!
I am all for prosecuting the war criminals such as Warlord Senile Biden, Little Hitler-wanna-be-Nazi Zelinsky, and smug-face Retard war criminal Putin.
They should all be hanged by their necks in a public place such as Times Square.
Okay, so he will never talk. All this does is allow Western media outlets to lie to us again, saying that he will talk.