The White House believes Ukraine’s military could retake the Crimean Peninsula from Russia. However, officials say the offensive may cross Moscow’s "red lines" and prompt a nuclear strike.
The Biden administration has radically changed its view of Kiev’s military since Russia invaded nearly ten months ago. The Ukrainians "continue to shock the world with how well they’re performing on the battlefield," an unnamed official said.
The White House now assesses that the Ukrainian armed forces are capable of retaking Crimea, with NBC News reporting that statements to that effect were made to lawmakers during a Congressional hearing last month. The administration official was attempting to explain to Congress why Kiev still needs American support.
The Crimean Peninsula was a region of Ukraine before it was annexed by Russia in 2014. While a referendum of Crimean citizens backed Russian President Vladimir Putin’s decision, Kiev and Washington assert the peninsula still belongs to Ukraine.
Sources reached by NBC News said the White House believes Putin will respond sharply to a successful Ukrainian offensive in Crimea. "Putin may react more strongly to Crimea," one official said, while a former administration staffer added "That’s the red line."
The White House does not believe Ukrainian military operations in Crimea to be imminent. "A lot would have to happen militarily first" before Ukraine could begin a real offensive to retake Crimea, an official stated.
However, the Biden administration has been surprised by some of Ukraine’s most advanced military operations. Two US officials and an American defense staffer said the White House was caught off guard and frustrated after Kiev launched a series of three drone attacks strikes deep inside Russian territory.
Kyle Anzalone is the opinion editor of Antiwar.com, news editor of the Libertarian Institute, and co-host of Conflicts of Interest.
There is only one safe place on earth when the nukes fly.
New Zealand?
Antarctica.
Nowhere. “On the Beach” scenario.
Radiation is over hyped. Bombs bursting in air do not produce radiation.
Well correct inasmuch as it does not produce sustained radiation of lethal levels – it does elevate the background radiation though and I would recommend avoiding ground zero (+50 km radius) for a week or two – US soldiers training moving into/over blast areas have had higher cancer rates.
And not to forget people in the blast zone during the blast are radiated to death.
Huh?
Yes, a nuclear bomb has to hit the ground to produce fallout. Granted if you are directly under a blast you may have some issue with it but any fallout just floats away somewhere else and becomes someone else’s problem.
Do you , actually , have any idea of what nuclear radiation is?
I don’t think this guy’s familiar with the names “Hiroshima” and “ Nagasaki “.
I believe it is over hyped and cannot get through a door or window of a dwelling. A glob of it could land somewhere as a thick pack of it and cause some grass to turn color or something. They claim to sail through the Van Allen belts without any issues and that is far more congested with radiation than a small nuclear blast.
Almost sounds like the bombs don’t do much, right?…. What’s a little radiation anyway?… Dumbdadumbdumb…..
I don’t think White House is detached from the reality that much. Most likely, they are trying to cheat the public as usual.
I have a hard time believing this is being said with such bravado…
And to be so matter of fact about it. oh yeah, this may lead to nuclear war.
Make my day, lol.
Yep, by the way, you-all might be incinerated if Russia loses a particular peninsula.
No worries, it’ll be worth it 😉
It’s domestic pie in the sky, keep hope alive one more day. The Russians won’t get too worked up about our in the sky big talk. They might not like a bunch of Boeing’s new missiles landing there though
This is so sad, the dangers, and Ukraine might get wrecked, no need of it. The writings on the wall for this so why not work something else out before total capitulation. Poland and Romania might carve out some of the west.
I wonder who planted this nonsense story.
Apparently, it was “officials”, “sources”, and “an official” … possibly the same sources who planted that Poland missile story a couple of weeks ago …
Official assholes
I wouldn`t call it nonsense egged on by the yanks that US puppet Z is capable of anything including trying to invaded Crimea , then when it goes tit`s up the yanks will throw their hands in the air and shout nothing to do with us.
Ahem, the citizens of Crimea voted (referendum) to join Russia, and so it is. There would be no “retaking”. Warring on or in Crimea would be warring on Russia.
Crimeans had tanks in their driveways which strongly suggested they sign that referendum.
Just the 90% that voted in favor. That be a lot of tanks. You really wonder why they wouldn’t have been more subtle.
So? Texans also have tanks in their driveways.
In a perfect world…;-)
For the opposite reason that the Russians had.
You mean Russians in Crimea don’t have any security concerns with invading Anglo-Americans?
I believe Crimea is the warmest region that the Russians have taken over and they upgraded the infrastructure for future vacations spots for them no the Crimeans necessarily.
Crimea was part of Russia before US annexed Texas and California from Mexico. You need to adjust your beliefs to fit at least the distorted ‘western’ version of reality.
That was different. The Mexicans were no match for us and were living a totally different lifestyle which we did not approve of so we simply annexed them. They offered little resistance actually. Russian and Crimeans were more or less the same and Russia had no right to go in there. They are a bunch of meanies.
LOL
ok, that was funny
I think people are vastly misreading what went on in Russia-Ukraine.
Gee. I wonder why…
Wait, they can? Better send them another $100 billion, pronto! /s
I like that Herm, creative (and expensive) thinking!…
Biden’s entire administration belongs in the dock. Criminals all. The most irresponsible gang of idiots the planet has gathered in one place to date.
“To initiate a war of aggression,” said the Nuremberg Tribunal judges in 1946, “is not only an international crime, it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”
Looking back at the coup in 2014, and from the historical reference in Volyn, we can clearly see that Obama in Ukraine was using the supreme international crime as a means of preventing Russia’s claims to the Donbass.
Poroshenko as one of Obama’s missives gives a speech where for the first time in history a Western leader boasts about targeting woman and children. Poroshenko stated….“We will have our jobs, they will not. We will have our pensions, they will not. We will have care for children, for people and retirees, they will not. Our children will go to schools and kindergartens… theirs will hole up in the basements. Because they are not able to do a thing. This is exactly how we will win this war!”
Keep in mind he was talking about Ukrainians, his fellow countrymen. He openly flouted international law, his militia’s used cluster and phospherous munitions against all conventions. He terrorised civilian populations. This was Obama’s strategy to win this civil war, ethnic cleansing and genocide.
Don’t you think the whole plan from the beginning was to drive the ethnic Russians out of eastern Ukraine so the West could confiscate their farms, homes, businesses and natural resources?
Obama was using ethnic cleansing as a means of controlling the ballot box.
Obama himself admitted he overthrew Yanuchovich. Its not that Obama wanted to kill all the ethnic Russians, if they fled to Russia that achieved the same goal. Obama needed to ethnically cleanse the Donbass to ensure that the Racist/Fascist Junta he placed in power could stay in power. The Russian speakers in Ukraine held the balance of power and had to be removed if the Junta was to stay in power. If they wouldn’t leave then the NATO Junta would have to murder/subjugate them all. The Rand Corporation documented the process prior to the events.
RT has an op ed today on what will happen to the ethnic Russians in the Donbass and Crimea if Ukraine and Nato win the war.
Ukraine, NATO, and AMERIKKKA, Mary!
NATO may also collapse and will not support the Anglo-Saxons against Russia.
US/NATO will not win this war. However NATO can continue this war for years by feeding weapons and Mercenaries into Ukraine. This will of course collapse the Western economies. Very tough times coming for the golden billion populations.
What really scares me is that NATO will use nuclear weapons when it gets to a point they have no choice but to concede Ukraine back to the Russian world, ie surrender.
Yes, I agree. I think it will be U.S./NATO that is the first to use nuclear weapons. The U.S. leaders have no conscience and are in league with Satan himself.
They could get a 200 Megaton reply.
4000 times blast of WWII ending 1s!!
Wondering who would get the reply?
But maybe their will be riots and blood in the streets in Europe first.
The French said they will not use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, that leaves the Anglo-Saxons the only nuclear NATO powers, Russia is not likely to use nuclear weapons in Europe unless it is a question of existence for them
Renate, “riots and blood in the streets”, if indeed that does happen it will be because those in power refused to respect and honor their citizens and instead have become tyrants and abusers. If it gets to that point the citizen has every right to do what is needed to displace the tyrants. I think Jefferson spoke of this.
When citizens have no other way left that is what happens. We have lunatics in USA/NATO governments, people without conscience. How can they sleep at night? We don’t have a single person in government one could call a statesman/woman, nothing. I have yet to hear a word of introspection from the man who is president or the presidents before him, Kennedy is the last one I know of. Putin has speeches worth reading, all we get from our lunatic leaders is bumper sticker campaign talk, an intellectual and moral desert.
Well said, Renate!
And they know, they do have evidence of war crimes committed by the Ukrainians.
What a horror they documented, and MSM was and still is silent the same is true for NATO nations. The MEDIA is controlled, the public has no access to information if they rely on what MSM provides.
Public opinion has been manipulated for decades, wars require to defame and demonize the so-called adversary.
Your comment is very important, and I was unaware of such an Obama admission. I always called him the Trojan Whorse president.
US President Barack Obama revealed the United States’ involvement in the Ukrainian crisis from its outset and admitted that the United States “had brokered a deal to transition power in Ukraine.”
This deal had the elected President Yanukovych flee for his life from Banderite Nazi’s.
No, the plan was to get NATO nukes in 1st strike Range on Ukraine border & thereby cow Russia when hatched in 2014 coup. But time did not stand still. While U.S. & allies chased Arabs on deserts & invaded weaklings Iraq and Afghanistan. Russia & China used time to leap a generation ahead in peer to peer top tier nuclear greatgamenship & rocketry with unstopable hypersonic missiles and nukes 4000 times the blast of bombs which ended WWII. “Throw weight of
NO!!!!!!! The plotters who kicked off the 2014 coup and the people they installed as Ukraine’s new government were not capitalists looking to make $$$$, but political idealogs out to, as admitted by Sec. of Defense Austin, weaken Russia in terminal presult of “Full Spectrum Dominance,” their delusional dream for which they seem willing to sacrifice life on this planet if Russia and soon CHINA does not capitulate. Biden is on YouTube saying he is a ZIONIST.
The people who deliberately provoke a war as the Americans did are the aggressors. Merkel confirmed that is exactly what they did, the Minsk agreements were deliberate deceit to buy time to arm and prepare Ukraine to start a war with Russia.
She said it, what more can we expect? She was party of the deceit, it is equal to the denial about the expansion of NATO, a promise they claim was never made.
Genocide on their own people is the worst traitors can possibly do to their nation. NATO is doing just that.
When Merkel explained to German people how smart she deceived Putin, she probably expected German people would be proud of her. May be Germans really proud of her for such a clever trick? After all, she really cheated Putin very smart. The question is: what benefits got German people? May be they consider the deindustrialization as a great achievment?
The deindustrialization of Germany is treason, in the USA it is a crime punishable with death. Merkel was not as much liked in Germany as she was in the US because she always was an Atlanticist. The USA did not support the Minsk agreements, maybe the Europeans hoped against all hope that MAYBE the Ukrainians would implement the agreements, it was a chance of peace and prosperity for the Ukrainian people compare that to the annihilation they do have now.
“The deindustrialization of Germany is treason, in the USA it is a crime punishable with death.”
You’re correct that in the USA, the crime of treason is punishable by death.
But in the USA, the definition of treason no more resembles what you’re characterizing as treason than does the definition of littering or driving under the influence.
What would happen if the American government would deindustrialize the American economy as the German government is doing in the interest of the USA?
The American corporations did deindustrialize for cheap labor and made it a service sector economy they increased their profits by doing it, a predatory economy Americans are used to. And the corporate predators are in power and control the law.
It doesn’t matter “what would happen.” Words mean things. “Treason” doesn’t mean what you fantasize it means.
There is substantial evidence indicating that the Poles had been participating actively in the formation of death squads in Ukraine since September 2013. Also there is substantial evidence that the Right Sector militants were trained by Donald Tusk’s government in Poland two months in advance of what was obviously a pre-planned coup.
The Polish press even published the role of Donald Tusk’s government in preparing the coup where the Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski invited 86 members of the Right Sector to the police training center in Legionowo. There, they received four weeks of intensive training in crowd management, person recognition, combat tactics, command skills, behavior in crisis situations, protection against gases used by police, erecting barricades, and shooting, including the handling of sniper rifles.
In the autumn of 2013 Nie weekly published an article describing the training course of 86 Right Sector militants in the Warsaw police training center at the expense of Polish government. Also protesters against the participation of Polish soldiers and mercenaries in combat actions in Ukraine occurred on October 4, 2014 near the parliament building in Warsaw.
The participation of Poles in the NATO aggressive war against Russia has many aspects, including the training of nationalist Banderites, the participation of mercenaries hired by Polish private contractors in the combat actions in Donbass, the weapons supplies to the Ukraine’s regime and the formation of joint Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian brigade – LITPOLUKRBRIG
Donald Tusk, who was President of the European Council, whose grandfather, Josef Tusk, served in Hitler’s Wehrmacht, has consistently demanded that the Kiev regime imposed by the US and EU deal with the Donbass people brutally, “as with terrorists”. Donald Tusk and the Kiev Junta even called the ethnic cleansing campaign in the Donbass an Antiterrorist Operation, ATO.
While the Polish special services were training the future participants of the Maidan operations and the ethnic cleansing of the Donbass, the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs made this official statement (02-02-2014): “We support the hard line taken by the Right Sector… The radical actions of the Right Sector and other militant groups of demonstrators and the use of force by protestors are justified… The Right Sector has taken full responsibility for all the acts of violence during the recent protests. This is an honest position, and we respect it. The politicians have failed at their peacekeeping function. This means that the only acceptable option is the radical actions of the Right Sector. There is no other alternative”.
In this statement by the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs we can see that the Polish government (NATO) is using violence (radical actions) as a means of ensuring the Ukrainian politicians fail in their peace keeping functions. Keep in mind the right sector locked down the Ukraina Hotel in the Maidan and used it as a NATO base to shoot and murder police and protesters.
Ukraine illustrates the role assigned by NATO to Poland. To overthrow the government of its neighbour state, Donald Tusk resorted to Nazi activists (Banderites) in the same way that NATO in Turkey uses Al-Qaeda (Al Nusra Front) to overthrow the Syrian government.
Russian propaganda also states that Poland has already taken a lot of casualties in Ukraine. So far they are not using this to escalate. Too much.
Explain how this is Russian propaganda? It seems some people can excuse vile disgusting actions, war crimes and crimes against humanity by that one overarching statement.
Russia has no reason to escalate as NATO is suffering huge losses. All that Russia wants is for NATO to keep feeding troops into the grinders. btw the Polish press has documented the huge number of Polish nationals who have died in Ukraine fighting against Russia, am i to assume they are all Russian Propagandists?
Ukraine was defeated in March, what we have now is a NATO aggressive war against Russia.
Followup: I absolutely believe that Polish “mercenaries” have been manning the trenches of Ukraine for quite some time, and in fairly large numbers. Russia discussing this openly is a huge step towards this changing from let’s pretend NATO is not involved to NATO being an active participant. One day we will see the headline “Russian hypersonic missiles evade NATO air defenses, destroy NATO military bases in Poland”.
Russian propaganda is anything that Russia says. As it turns out, it is a lot more accurate and spot on compared with anything the US government or MSM says.
I have come to hate fact checking events in which the US says one thing, and the Russians another. The two usual results are generally 1) although the Russian story makes more sense and is more believable, there might be some truth to the US story or 2) the US version is as true as the Iraqi Yellowcake story. Not at all.
We’re still waiting for those links
Do you have any links to this Polish press documentation?
NATO has no troops fighting in Ukraine – there are volunteers who have gone to Ukraine to fight, but no troops are sent there as part of any organized units to fight. The notion that Western troops could be suffering very significant losses in Ukraine or even just sending troops there in very significant numbers (thus not being there voluntarily) simply would not be feasible without the press getting ahold of the stories.
You can claim that it is a western nations funded war (e.g. South Korea, Australia and Japan are not NATO members but co funders) but not that it is a NATO war – nor that it is a aggressive war against Russia as Russia is the aggressor (both in 2014 and 2022).
We should call it what it is, the people in charge of government are war criminals. They know Biden can’t win, to not negotiate to end the war is a war crime, the nation is being destroyed for noting, it is genocide and morally on the same level as Hitler’s war.
Merkel confirmed what honest people already knew is true, the USA/NATO nations prepared and deliberately provoked the war they accuse Russia to have started. They are the real butchers of Ukraine and the people. And the dare continue the butchery knowing full well they can’t win unless they go for total war, including nuclear war.
Normally little dogs know not to wake a sleeping big dog, Ukrainians knew it too, they trusted the big dog USA they believed would protect them.
Putin attacked the Ukraine. Seriously, find a clue.
Why a clue when the facts are biting you in your a**?
Facts? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA! Try blather. HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early
Angela Merkel is a sterling witness, she was present at the Minsk agreements. She said, the agreements were never meant to be implemented, they were a way to gain time to arm and train the Ukrainians to fight against Russia.
There is more, but you can do a little research, I will not do it for you.
In reality, people who deliberately provoke are the aggressor, common sense tells us that. All else is political BS.
You failed to prove anything. HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I once had a lot of respect for Merkel.
I respected her, and now I wonder if her conscience made her to come out and confirm why the 2 agreements were not implemented. We also know that NATO armed and trained the Ukrainians including NATO military exercises in the non NATO country, close to the Russian Ukrainian border. Putin’s Russia had to react to the provocation like any country would have done, as Putin said, it was his duty to protect Russian security, he owed it to the Russian people. Would be nice if Scholz and Baerbock would get it, but that requires character and backbone which Scholz does not have and ignorant Baerbock is just too stupid. Besides that, corruption may be involved too, they must know what they do is treason. It can’t just be stupidity, Zelensky is corrupt and all the others.
The U.S. overthrew the legitimate elected Ukraine gov’ment in 2014 and turned a blind eye to the constant bombing in the Donbass region which consists of a largely Russian population. Really, do a little research before you make such silly mindless comments.
Nope.
Asshole.
I would say that after the lies that led up to the invasion of Iraq that the majority of people in the U.S. would be on to the way the Military Offensive Industry and Gov’ment officials work together to create these conflicts for their benefit but sadly too many in the U.S. have been indoctrinated and with a Gov’ment press constantly spewing out lies, a large part of the public still sees the U.S. as the noble party in all of this.
What you say is true for all big NATO members. The officials are really committing High Treason against their people and country when they refuse to negotiate with Russia.
More weapons will not end the war no more than more guns reduce the massacres in our country including schools. The American people have been indoctrinated for years with defamation and demonization of Russia and the people and Putin. The USA even forces allies to sanction each other, destroying their own economies on orders of their US ally. The sabotage of the pipelines shows the insanity of it, the Russians did not do it, if there was any evidence we would be told, the silence about who did it, the admission by the Germans they know but can’t tell says it all.
I believe the USA citizen will soon pay a price for what they have allowed to go on from their “elected” officials. I believe this awakening, punishment, will come in the form of a half dozen USA cities being decimated by nuclear strikes and this will lead to anarchy and the end of the “United” States and for those States not hit, blood will still be running in the streets, game over. What goes around WILL come around, call it what you will, God’s punishment or whatever. 🙁
It’s all about karma.If you rape the planet and murder millions of people for power and profit your leaders need to die or change.Either works for me.I 1know which side I’m on.
Thinking outside the “are politicians stupid enough to believe their own propaganda” box, maybe this is a spin toward de-escalation, saying in effect that Ukraine needs to back off to avoid nuclear attack, which sounds a lot better than saying Ukraine needs to stop offensive military operations because it’s being relentlessly bombed out of existence by a vastly superior force.
This is the dumbest article I have read, certainly this year, maybe ever. The Ukronazis are getting their butts kicked royally and cannot even keep the electricity on, have no water, no heat, no food and no weapons, Their first line soldiers have been massacred, as have their reservists. They cannot even defend Ukieland, let alone form an offensive. This article must be a plant for propaganda purposes, although what that purpose could be is a mystery. Unless one wanted to use it as cover for a nukie false flag.
NBC News is a Woke propaganda organ. To restate its reporting uncritically only gives aid and comfort to the Régime.
It really is impossible to describe the level of delusion, propaganda, bravado that exists in the cess pool that is us policy and its “officials.”
I no longer become enraged at the statements from state, white house, pentagon as it is a useless emotion; now it is expected but nevertheless they constitute a threat to world nuclear war and as such they are criminal and should so be charged.
Yeah, sure, that will happen.
HUBRIS as a fatal disease….!!!!!!!!!!!!
Total B.S. MY country has turned evil as F#ck. Constant war by DC Ghouls while the citizen tax payer is abused greatly!! Blood Gutz and destruction,,the diet of DC Ghouls!!! 🙁 (This MUST end!)
It’s not the whole country. It’s Wash. and the gov. has gone full blown Satanic. Unless the people do something, there will be a whole lot less people.
Understanding that minors don’t get their “genitals mutilated” due to declaring that they’re transgender isn’t “Satanic.” It’s just not believing BS.
Most American males DO get their genitals mutilated shortly after birth, but that’s not a gender identity issue, it’s a long-standing barbaric cultural practice.
The post wasn’t about that issue. My other one was. And, circumcision is done for health reasons just as cutting your finger and toe nails is, as well as bathing and brushing your teeth. It’s not barbaric. https://www.mariestopes.org.za/advantages-of-circumcisions-7-reasons-to-get-circumcised/
“health reasons” is highly doubtful and lacking of proof. For one comparison, almost no Japanese are circumcised and they live longer statistically.
I gave John Hopkins as proof.
The original American “medical” justification for circumcision was that it would reduce the urge to masturbate, which American “medicine” believed was unhealthy.
Ever since that was noticed as obviously false there have been a series of “medical” justifications for the practice with, seemingly, an average half-life of five years before each one is established to be bullsh*t, after which another one pops up.
It is sexual assault and it is genital mutilation, and the two main justifications for it are that it’s an extra little profit center for hospitals and that recognizing it as sexual assault and genital mutilation would have negative consequences for various groups — everyone from guilt-ridden parents to members of Abrahamic religions who believe God told them to hack part of their sons’ penises off and don’t want to be required to stop doing so (if I founded a religion TODAY that called for infants to have body parts amputated, I’d be sent to a mental institution for saying it and to prison if I actually practiced it).
Thomas I believe the African Zulu nation under King Shaka was very much into circumcision and I doubt it was from their reading of the Bible. .I am thinking early to mid 1700’s.
Yeah but at least over there they keep sexism out of it and cut genitals of both males and females.
I do not believe there was any female mutilation as sex was very important to the Zulu nation and sexual virility was lauded and marriages of the biggest and most athletic males to the likewise females was greatly encouraged and rewarded. Thus by the late 1800’s a Zulu warrior was truly a sight to behold.
Maybe so. The urge to sexually assault / genitally mutilate infants isn’t necessarily limited to one set of religions. But it’s unlikely that the Zulu custom was the underlying motivator for American “medical” pseudoscience to try to justify the practice on other than religious grounds.
Thomas, I believe Judeo Christian and health concerns were the reason behind circumcision in certain cultures and I believe the majority of women much prefer circumcised lovers for appearance and health reasons.
Fun fact: when a man is, ahem, aroused, you can’t really tell the difference.
Over the course of several millennia, only one really valid “health concern” has ever emerged that would medically justify circumcision, and it’s a rare one (strangulation of the penis by a malformed foreskin that is too tight — I had a relative who was circumcised due to that).
“Judeo Christian” excuses are just that. Other religions don’t get to e.g. throw virgins into volcanoes, stone women to death for adultery, etc. anymore in America, because we have separation of church and state and your religion is not an excuse for activities that would otherwise be crimes, including hacking off parts of kids because you say God told you to.
Which is why every few years, a new bullsh*t “medical” excuse gets made up for it, and when that one is proven wrong, a new one is made up so that politicians can avoid the politically costly duty of protecting kids from sexual assault and genital mutilation by important voting blocs.
I think that like with most things, there are pros and cons. My ex is American but his father was British, so I heard about it from both points of view.
But mostly what I learned is that almost all men are very, VERY happy with their parts, no matter what their current state is. (except for a very small, weird subset of them who blame circumcision for all of their issues in life.)
We decided the pros didn’t outweigh the cons. Haven’t had any occasion to think we made the wrong choice.
I’m cut, and happy with my parts.
As for “deciding that the pros outweigh the cons” of sexual assault and genital mutilation, I’m not sure how that’s relevant. Every rapist, murderer, and armed robber has made a similar calculation, but that doesn’t justify the decision.
I don’t agree that it meets the definition of sexual assault, but I agree that it could be considered mutilation. (Although I believe that word implies an element of disfigurement or inability to function … but I’m probably going too far down the legalese path here.)
But yes, like most parents who found out they were expecting a son, we researched the pros and cons.
If a procedure has been done to almost every man you know and all of them seem fine with it, and many in fact recommend it, most people are at least going to look into why that is.
This was also almost 16 years ago. At the time circumcision was considered very much the standard thing to do, particularly here in the Midwest.
I only disagree with the last part. You don’t need to start a religious cult today. You can just join existing government “gender” lobby.
Thomas, I used to help my friend clean her Arab gelding’s “sheath”, as it’s referred to, on occasion (we don’t circumsize our animals, do we!)
If one can wash a horse’s johnson, I see no reason for boys not to be able to keep their own clean and hygienic.
Since I’m a female, I don’t get to have a say on whether circumcising male babies is a good or bad thing, and I don’t have a son. I supposed it’s best left up to the parents, and I don’t believe that circumcision is as automatic as it once was.
“Since I’m a female, I don’t get to have a say on whether circumcising male babies is a good or bad thing”
That’s an odd take. Do you also not get to have a say on whether amputating their legs, breaking their arms, etc. are bad things?
Well, Thomas, I’m not in favor of breaking anyone’s arm, unless they deserve it 😉
I suppose I mean that since I don’t possess those particular parts, I can’t say what the advantages/ disadvantages would be in this matter; it’s only hearsay to me.
I also maintain that unless you have a uterus, you don’t get to have a say regarding abortion rights.
I’m absolutely sure that Mother Nature gave males foreskins for a good reason.
I don’t see any argument for the unnecessary removal of “parts”. Unless I’m wrong, this is mostly an American practice.
If boys are instructed to properly care for such “parts”, I can’t see how retaining them is a bad thing.
Nature isn’t perfect, is it? We improve on nature all the time. Civilization is an improvement on nature up to a point, until there are too many people which will eventually use up all the natural resources. And, the links I gave are from science built on the stats of health benefits. Enough about dicks now. The mod. brought it up, not me.
LOL Lily….I was wondering how we got on that subject! 😁
Oh I do wonder who might that be …
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b2573e8e5217eadb975dd09f4ec670b03762c4d7e1952194558d61b060184716.jpg
To say circumcision traumatizes the male infant is moot since it’s done right after birth, and birth is the greatest trauma every human experiences. And, comparing circumcision with castration is absurd. But, absurdity is the best word to describe government policy today, isn’t it?
Here’s another post from John Hopkins re. your issue with circumcision. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/articles/greater-benefits-of-infant-circumcision
How did this evolve into Freud’s ‘castration complex’? And, who’s the ‘Father of Lies?’ (isn’t BS lies?)
Reminds me of Freud’s assertion that girls suffered from “penis envy”. I’ve personally never wanted one-a them things ( no offense, guys!)
Gypsy33, I am not so sure about that as all of my many girlfriends had an almost constant fascination with my penis, among many other activities, wanting to hold it as I urinated. I do think, from experience, and alot of that, :),,,that many women do have “Penis Envy”, and that is just fine with me. 🙂 I do love women.
Uhhh, that one part’s a little kinky, Jay.
If your GFs had a “fascination” with your johnson, it’s probably because of what it could do for them.
And truth be told , Jay, don’t you have a fascination with lady parts? 😉
33, For sure and for certain, my “drug” of choice. 🙂 HuRaHH!
Which also does reduce incidence of phimosis,penile, and cervical cancer.
yeah but the problem is the owners of these cowardly, treasonous rats in DC also own mainstream propaganda and continue to brainwash people with their version of “reality”. There are many naive people who fall for it.
But, ‘you can’t fool all the people all the time.’ (and you can’t fool mom)
The White House now assesses that the Ukrainian armed forces are capable of retaking Crimea, with NBC News reporting that statements to that effect were made to lawmakers during a Congressional hearing last month. The administration official was attempting to explain to Congress why Kiev still needs American support.
Truth wouldn’t get the votes.
What the mental cases in the WH call assessing is nothing but BS.
You’d think x-rays would leave an impression of their skellingtons.
Arrested development from the unusual suspects.
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https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2022-12-17/Die-Welt-iz-za-rekordno-nizkih
December 17, 2022 DIE WELT Original
Die Welt: Germany’s gas storage facilities are emptying too quickly due to record low temperatures
What a bummer.
Biden is eying those nukes! The typical US play book — first annoynce cause belli — then do ut yourself. US was talking up dirty bombs, then tactical nukes, then talking about nukes incesantlly, yet some mire without any context whatsoever — other than implanting the though into our empty vessel brains that nukes are commg!
You see MAD dictrine worked for as ling as parties are SANE. Once a new breed of decision makers is possessed with irrational feelungs of supremacy. envy and rage — there is no rational explanation to their behavior,
We shoukd not be shocked to see Ukraine go for optics and lob a few missiles into Crimea. Biden claims Russia’s nuclear respinse is immunent — and fires off numes into Russia.
Trust these wunderkindegarten brains in Washingtton to have thought anything through. .
I have no idea why is this lose talk of nukes tolerated this lightly, Nukes are reserved for end-of-time scenariood, while Biden is still bursting with pride of nukes accomplishing so much in Hiroshima. Bur today, it would certainly eliminate surplus population. Ho, ho, ho. .
They are obsessed with Crimea, aren’t they? Obviously, it is very important for Anglo-American empire to conquer the entire Black Sea region. They sacrificed many assets in Mariupol to hold on to Azov Sea…
The plan is to have nukes on Russia`s border it`s a plan that`s been decades in the making , i have been following the American war mongering for 65 years , their other plan is for world domination , manifest destiny tells you all you need to know about what the yanks think.
Pretty obvious that the Russians can’t allow the West control of the Black Sea or having missles on its border. Therefore, if things continue to escalate, there will eventually be the use of nuclear weapons and most likely the West will be the first to use them.
“what the yanks think” is very different from what the schizos in foreign policy think tanks think. War is deeply unpopular in america as it is in every country, except among politicians.
WHY!!!!!!! Crimea….????? Perhaps because its loss as a result of the Clinton/Nuland 2014 coup is an indelible black mark on Neocon methods and especially its prime movers Biden, Clinton, Nauland too, who seeming have the juice with Biden as presidentto pursue its recovery in spite of Putin statement saying ha would use nukes to defend “Russian’ territory. A big gamble, unless NATO power elite are onboard for nuclear war with Russia in a situation where all but two are unable to retaliate with their own weapons. Russia could and if sufficiently provoked, would take several of their capitals to ground. We are dealing with Neocons clinging onto their full spectrum dominance dreams in the face of their target being very able to inflict massive damage on an existential scale. While hectoring China with threats on their Tiawan claims, almost assuring China would support Russia in any hostilities with U.S. NATO…!!!!!!!
This is just suicidal delusions of psychopaths. They think if they can’t have the world domination, nobody should be left alive in it. I think this is why both Russia and China are so passive. They look at Anglo-American empire as an impotent child throwing a tantrum because adults revoked few privileges. These neocons or neolibs or just pests are in a political self-destruct mode because they believe their threats will have some influence on Eurasians and they will be given everything they want. But they are not stupid to risk own survival. No, Sir. Survival and exclusively selfish interests is the primary mode of operation for any parasite. They will not risk it under any circumstances. So the God of War, Perun must have blessed the Oppenheimer. The threat of Divine Light of Retribution keeps these pests from enslaving the world or destroying it.
It is amazing how someone can write a few hundred word and not say anything….
Let’s not overlook the obvious, regardless of nuclear war, the main point is retaking Crimea… I’m going to make pancakes and let this settle in… Nah, pancakes are wimpy… A nice heavy duty Spanish Omelette helps the nukes go down….
Coupla Xanax does it for me Donna 😉
” Two US officials and an American defense staffer said the White House
was caught off guard and frustrated after Kiev launched a series of
three drone attacks strikes deep inside Russian territory.”
Wow, surprised in Wash.? After all, both countries are at war, and Ukraine is just fighting back. Shows how Wash. tries to micromanage every war they get involved in. Will WWIII be the only way Americans will learn their gov. is evil and involves itself in every war it can just to make more weapons and satisfy the war industry who supports Wash.? It’s a symbiosis thingy that will destroy the earth if things don’t turn around soon.
Well, actually Biden was surprised and then everyone else caught it.
How about we airdrop the entire executive branch along with the House and Senate into the battle zone in Eastern Ukraine, and let these jackasses fight for us.
This is ridiculous. The Russians are killing at least five times more Kiev conscripts than Russians dying, and in Bakhmut their artillery outnumbers the Kiev artillery nine to one. This is from Ukrainian sources. Russia is right now taking Bakhmut, the lynchpin in the Ukrainian defense line in western Donbass. After that they have no natural defense line left.
Kiev wasted their modern equipment and their best West-trained troops doing a mass attack against Kherson. The Russians massacred 12,000 of them – and that’s only on that front. The Russians only left Kherson because the Kiev terrorists were bombing the civilians and threatened to blow up the dam to flood the area. After that the remaining Kiev forces, who got to enter Kherson, were stuck there. Few have been able to leave to go to Bakhmut, because they have no electricity for the trains. They have failed to get any administration going in Kherson and are constantly killed by Russian artillery one kilometer away on the other side of the river. They can’t even go out to collect their dead.
“The White House does not believe Ukrainian military operations in Crimea to be imminent. “A lot would have to happen militarily first” before Ukraine could begin a real offensive to retake Crimea, an official stated.”
Ukraine is facing a conundrum of existential concerns.
“Retake” Crimea ??
perhaps the headline meant “Conquer” Crimea.
When did the installed US puppet government in Rump Ukraine (Kiev) ever have control over the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and its people ?
….(answer = never) !!!
Autonomous Republic of Crimea
prior to the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Crimea was granted the status of Autonomous Republic by the Supreme Soviet of the Ukrainian SSR following a state-sanctioned referendum held on January 20, 1991. When Ukraine became independent, Crimea remained a republic within the country…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Republic_of_Crimea
Crimea and Sevastopol officially joined Russia as President Putin signed a final decree 21 March 2014
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/ukraine/arc.htm
Yep. Retake = Conquer.
It was Khrushchev who was in power at the time , he did it because he never thought Communism would ever fall.
Even Russia invading Ukraine was somehow a Ukraine provocation so there’s absolutely nothing Ukraine can do to avoid provocations as everything will be blamed on Ukraine no matter what.
I’m all about Ukraine going for everything they think and believe they can get. After all, no one believed they could take Kherson.
Russia started this mess, they can end it or escalate it. It’s their call but Ukrainians will still continue fighting for their land.
According to western MSM.(how reliable is that ?) The “mess” started in 2014 with the Maidan US/UK coup d’état in Kiev. There were the 2014/15 Minsk Agreements which Angele Merkel
, former German chancellor when recently interviewed by Die Zeit, admitted they were intended not to be implemented so as to pump more and more weapons and missiles into Ukraine for a future war against. Russia. Kherson was not retaken by force. The Russian and part of the civilian population left temporarily and voluntary for strategic reasons. People who collaborated with the Russians are now persecuted, killed and tortured. Their houses raided by Azov fascists commandos. There are several pictures of people seen tied to lampposts.
Quote: US Believes Ukraine Can Retake Crimea…
Question: On what type of recreational medications are Joe Dementia Administration officials ?? Crack Coke laced with LSD ?? Or Crack Coke laced with Fentanyl ??
Unknown who is more delusional Joey Biden the adult diaper senile fool or drag queen Zelensky the cocaine head!
You left out the third and most likely option: You.
That’s a good question ?? & IMHO it will be not easy to make the difference ?
“White House believes Ukraine’s military could retake…Crimean Peninsula from Russia. However, officials say the offensive may cross Moscow’s “red lines” and prompt a nuclear strike.”
Speaking anonymously due to the sensitivity of the matter, State Department officials weighed in with a number of viewpoints:
‘On the other hand, it may not cause ‘the big one’ – it may just be this wonky old nuclear war game software we got that keeps spitting out ‘nuclear threshold crossed.”
‘C’maaahn which do you trust more – a computer simulation, or the infinitely creative freedom loving human spirt? Isn’t nuclear fatalism just another word for ‘I don’t have the guts to get out of bed and face the perils of human existence’?’
‘Why scream before you’ve been hit? Wus.’
‘Nothing risked, nothing gained, I always say.’
‘He who hesitates is lost – remember when yr teacher told ya that one? You remember it for a reason!
‘Heck, does anybody really know what tomorrow may bring? – we’ll just have to see.’
‘Hey, shut the fhuck up or else, ya freakin’ commie traitor Putin-lover. Remember – we know where you live.’
All the BS I had in mind.
“White House believes Ukraine’s military could retake…Crimean Peninsula from Russia. However, officials say the offensive may cross Moscow’s “red lines” and prompt a nuclear strike.”
Additional interviews with State Department officials – who, as before, spoke under condition of anonymity – revealed further the striking range of opinion and sentiment on the likely risk of nuclear war:
‘As a State Department person of color, it is quite clear that – just as freeing the slaves meant risking war – so does freeing Crimeans. I cannot help but wonder whether your clearly not having had slave ancestors influences what looks very much like racially tinged insensitivity on this point.’
‘What you conveniently forget is that a nuclear war is calculated to eventuate in far greater Russian than American losses. But I guess the glass is always half empty for gloomy guses like you.’
‘As a female State Department employee, I feel targeted by your questions. And I can only wonder whether you have addressed other State Department employees using that tone. Now if you’ll excuse me, you are making me feel personally unsafe. Security!
‘Get. Out. Security!’
BLAM! ‘Security!……Well he definitely shouldn’ta reached for his cell phone like that!
…..daaaah………….kuh…KYLL…RUSSKIE!……..daaaaah…..
Get real and don’t play the race card. 🙁
Did you actually read the whole post – notice how every ‘speaker’ offered a morally sleazy, stupid-assed excuse to shut up any discussion of WWIII as a real possibility?
The point was the unscrupulous way liberals and the right attack progressive critics to shut them up.
Like the Democrats unscrupulous lies about Sanders being racist and sexist to shut up his progressive ideas.
Essentially, my view is that Democrats’ focus on identity politics to avoid dealing with class and economic issues.
But liberals and the right also ‘weaponize’ gender politics not just as a substitute, but to directly attack progressives.
Remember this one? Clinton: “If we broke up the big banks tomorrow….would that end racism? Would that end sexism?”
Here I am imagining liberal and right wing war hawks, who are people of color, weaponing race/gender in the same way – ie, to shut up antiwar people.
Prob’ is, exposition like above is wordy and doesn’t have the possibility of being humorous, and doesn’t force a person to think the way the imagined State Department spokesperson dialogue does. Plus it was boring to write…and for those who got my post in first place, I’ll guess boring to read.
Sure I read the entire post, and I meant what I posted, deal with it.
That’s the stupidest pretend conversation I’ve ever seen. You sound like you’ve been huffing Tucker Carlson quotes.
Here is what the average Ukrainian does not understand……Without the DNR/LPR they would be sent into a war against Russia. A war they cannot win, with millions of victims. Obama wanted the Russian World to wage war against themselves.
In the Donbass they were fighting for the Russian World which includes Ukraine. Once i understood this geo-political perspective i understood Putin’s and Obama’s positions better. Crimea was strategic and historically Russian, it had to be returned to Russia no matter what the cost. However the DPR/LPR could not be annexed because again Obama would of sent Ukraine into a war against the Russian World. The Donbass was a buffer against a war with Russia, Putin was doing everything he could to ensure a war in the Russian World did not occur.
This explained why Moscow did not just immediately annex the Donbass as they did Crimea. I struggled for some time trying to understand why he didn’t.
We are now in the region of EXTREME GLOBAL DANGER and the geopolitical position has got tricky. We had a stalemate for 8 years while the LPR/DPR were defending the Russian world. A stalemate was a victory for the Russian world and a defeat for the US/NATO. America who wants a war in the Russian World could not allow this stalemate to continue as it meant in time they would have to concede Ukraine back to the Russian world. So we saw the US/NATO shower Ukraine with weapons to get Ukraine to a point that they could ensure the stalemate was broken.
US/NATO was building to attack the Donbass in February. Moscow pre-emted this attack with the SMO. Ukraine was defeated in March and a peace agreement had been negotiated hence the Russian withdrawal from Kiev. Boris Johnson immediately flew to Kiev and undid the peace agreement and escalated US/NATO to war with Russia.
Are you suggesting that the US would force Ukraine to cross the border into what was Russia even back in 2014 – or that Zelenskyy’s government doing so of its own volition? If so what gives you that pretty wild idea?
The main problem with that being: Ukraine was not being showered with weapons before 2022 certainly not to the extend that they could take the third of Donetsk and Luhansk they did not already hold. Indeed they only now approach that capacity
There was not a force build up in Ukraine prior to the Russian build up in mid 2021 – moreover the Ukrainian troops in Donetsk would no more have been able to overrun the DNR LNR defensive lines than the Russians have themselves been able to overrun the lines on the Donetsk front – or are you really claiming that the Ukrainian troops on that line were vastly superior to what the Russians have put there since June???
Are you here proposing that the Russians were so naïve as to withdraw troops posing a threat to Kyiv on the hope that Ukraine would keep to a deal forced upon them and not yet signed? It stretched the credibility of just how dumb we are to think the Russians are beyond all limits.
Anybody think the governments in the West are losing all reason? How about people being arrested for not using the ‘new pronouns’? How about all the murders in US cities and the gov. is doing nothing about it? How about kids genitals being mutilated if they ‘feel like the gender they aren’t?’ How about Wash. intervening all over the world just to satisfy the war industry and get the campaign funds? How about dual citizenship law makers more concerned about other countries than the one they are supposed to serve? How about unlimited immigration by the millions without adequate housing and jobs? The list could go on and on. The end game is total destruction unless things turn around quickly. But, all reason has been lost.
Any old boomers remember this video shown on ‘Ed Sullivan’ in 1956? It scared and actually traumatized some kids who saw it then. It’s soooo today, isn’t it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkhNED3-mnI
Holy crap, Lily, THAT was on Ed Sullivan?!
I think I liked that show better when the Beatles were on 🙁
Yes it was. And, here’s all the info and some memorials from the poor boomers who saw it. This proves the ’50s must not have been so boring as they tell us it was. Check this out: http://conelrad.blogspot.com/2011/06/short-vision-legacy-project.html
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“US Believes Ukraine Can Retake Crimea, But May Provoke Nuclear Escalation”
The end of the world as we knew it!
Is it that you think the Ukrainians have nukes too – just asking because AFAIK no western country has indicated that they would use nukes if Russia does so in Ukraine – or is it that you think Putin will nuke the west as a response to Ukraine taking back Crimea?
Don’t be retarded!
Just commenting on the article “But May Provoke Nuclear Escalation”. Russia has stated that an attack on Russia could trigger a nuclear response. Crimea is part of Russia and has been 1783 to be precise. A brief administrative period of control by Ukraine which was initiated in 1954, but that was an aberration.
I’m not suggesting that Russia would not use nukes, just questioning that it would be the end of the world, given that Ukraine has no nukes and the west has stated that it would not use nukes if Russia uses them in Ukraine – what part of that was hard to understand?
You love your ableist insults, don’t you?
To suggest that Ukraine could invade and take control of Crimea is absurd, based on the fact that Ukraine depends entirely on NATO for its weapons and ammunition. Along with the fact that, even with that support, it is barely holding steady on the frontline.
So the more interesting question to me is, Why is the White House putting out this line? What is the administration trying to say?
They say that invading Crimea would cross a red line, and at the same time they say that Ukraine could do this. Well, Ukraine can only do this if NATO provides the material and gives the OK to it. So, are they suggesting that they would approve this?
Is the Biden administration playing checkers (as some would say) or is this a high-stakes poker game? If it’s poker, then how much is the administration ready to put on the table? An ‘unnamed official’ is reported saying that invasion of Crimea would trigger a nuclear strike by Russia. Is the administration trying to bluff Russia?
I get the feeling that the neoconservatives in the US State Dept. believe a limited nuclear war is both possible and winnable. It seems unlikely that the US would use any sort of tactical nuclear weapon directly against Russia, but they might gamble that using a nuclear weapon in Ukraine against the Russian forces would not trigger an all-out nuclear response from Russia.
That worries me.
As I understand it the plan was explicitly for NATO not retaliating to a Russian use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine with nuclear weapons anywhere neither in Russia (nor naturally in Ukraine – as that would kill Ukrainians it would be an astoundingly bad idea both militarily and publicity wise).
What plan you are referring to? The US has no such inhibition against retaliation. In fact, in its revised 2022 Nuclear Posture Review, the US explicitly allows for first use of nuclear weapons. Under the heading of “Nuclear Weapons in U.S. Defense Strategy”, the document states that “Our nuclear deterrent thus undergirds all our national defense priorities, including defending the U.S. homeland, deterring strategic attacks against the United States, our Allies and partners, and deterring regional aggression with emphasis on the PRC and Russia.”
That statement clearly would allow the U.S. to use nuclear weapons in the Ukraine war. Either before or after their use by another party. And having already caused the death of many Ukrainians, why would the U.S. not employ a nuclear weapon in Ukraine, particularly if it were against the Donbas republics or other territories now claimed by Russia?
Do you really think the U.S. cares much about Ukraine? If so, then look again at how much the U.S. cares about Afghanistan and Iraq. Which is, not at all.
The ‘plan’ which was debated just recently – though calling it a plan is a stretch.
I know, that the US has no such inhibitions, though it too has refrained from actually using nukes when losing in one of its invasions/occupations.
I do not know if you are as unfamiliar with military matters as you make out to be, but the US using a nuke in e.g. the Donbas would immediately lose it the backing of most of the western nations – and a large portion of the Ukrainians too – that even if it was only after the Russians had used a nuke.
Where most of us also noticed that they did not use nukes.
I thank you for your reply. It appears that we agree on the matters of fact. As far as the use of nuclear weapons, I most dearly hope that it never happens again. And my greatest hope for the Ukraine war is that it end right now. I wish all of us to have peace in the coming year!
“The White House believes Ukraine’s military could retake the Crimean Peninsula from Russia. However, officials say the offensive may cross Moscow’s “red lines” and prompt a nuclear strike.”
Well, that’s a very big “however”…
Conquering Crimeria by force can be dismissed to the realms of phantasy. The question arises why didn’t the Crimeans resist Russian “occupation” in 2014 and why have the Russian speaking Ukrainians for eight years been fighting tooth and nail against occupation by US/NATO Ukrainians? Conquest by force would result in genocide. Self determination is a right recognised by international law and the UN Charter.
In the first scene from the movie 2001 an ape picks up an old bone and in the search for power or food hits the other ape and kills. My point is have we really advanced or just become more skillful at killing. Now we have the means to end it all for all the creatures on the Planet, Human,Animal or Insects.And so it shall be.
The big picture shows the idiocy in Washington the arrogance to wage war against Russia, China, Iran, the ME, NK, and other nations like the European NATO allies and the African continent, Asia, and Latin America. Can one imagine more insanity, more hubris?
For what it is worth, Biden democrats are posting about how easy it will be for Ukraine to mop up what is left of Russian forces in Ukraine. Presumably the expected plan is to retake all of Crimea presumably by Spring.
US First Strike option: anything that embarrasses the fuzzy-minded president.
US Believes Russia Can Take Ukraine, But May Provoke Nuclear Escalation