According to a report from CNN, the Biden administration is considering a request from Ukraine to provide cluster bombs, munitions that are banned by over 100 countries under an international treaty due to the harm they cause to civilians.
Cluster munitions scatter small bombs over large areas, making them more indiscriminate than other munitions. The small bombs often don’t explode on impact, making them a huge danger to civilians who comes across them, similar to land mines.
The 2008 Convention on Cluster Munitions that bans the weapons has 108 signatories, but the US, Russia, and Ukraine are not parties to the treaty. Since Russia launched its invasion in February, both Russian and Ukrainian forces have used cluster munitions, and Kyiv was accused of using the bombs in populated areas of Donestk back in 2014.
The last known time the US used cluster bombs was in Yemen in 2009. Before that, US forces used them in the early days of the Afghanistan war and in Iraq in 2003. The US has supplied cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia, which has used them in its war on Yemen.
The CNN report said that the Biden administration has been fielding a request from Ukraine for cluster munitions for months and has not rejected it outright. The administration hasn’t taken the option off the table if US stockpiles of other munitions become dangerously low.
The report said that the Biden administration hasn’t considered the request too seriously yet due to congressional restrictions on transferring cluster bombs, although President Biden could override the restrictions. The munitions Kyiv is seeking could be fired by US-provided HIMARS rocket launchers and the 155 mm howitzers.
How many more ways can this get worse? Too many to count. I feel repetitive but these things just boggle the mind. If we keep this up, we will go toe to toe with the Russians and if we go toe to toe, with the Russians we’ll be in a nuclear war. It will happen so fast, we won’t have time to say WORLD WAR III.
Our government has agreed to no limitations on any kind of weapons, maybe chemical weapons are on the list. They produce and sell cluster bombs. They have no reservations killing civilians. They will kill and destroy up to the last minute of the end of war. They annihilate nations and when they lose they simply walk away. The USA is as ruthless hegemon. Morally as low as the lowest.
The nations military profiteers are the elite in government and industry and finance they don’t fight and die protecting their wealth.
Always call out US but dare to call out Russia for equal or worse violations.
“First cast the beam from your own eye, then you will be able to better see the mote in your brother’s eye….”
Or something like that
We aren’t citizens of Russia and have enough to worry about our own interventions.
Those of us who live here recognize that we control (humor!) only what happens here. Only a complete idiot tries to alter the political structure of another country – unless he/she works for the US state department – division of overthrows and proxy wars.
Try to keep up.
Regime Changes and wars are against international law, which the US signed and that is included in the UN charter.
The US controls the UN and has undermined trust and respect of the UN. The present US ambassador to the UN is a joke and a shame of our nation, she follows neocon dictates.
“Only a complete idiot tries to alter the political structure of another country”
That would have been good advice for Putin in early February.
That would have been good advice for the USA in 2014. Good for all, in fact. You keep on missing that.
Yeah, I know…… but, but, but Russia bad, Putin evil. Yawn. Borders set by God. Yawn. NATO would never do such! Laugh. US intentions were pure. Hilarious.
Have you considered a career as a comedian? Hey, you might end up being a despotic ruler of corrupt country. Getting rich by the
” little guys” share of $20 billions.
He could dance in high heels and play piano with his prick! 😁
Funny and true.
Biblical injunction to clean ones own house first before calling out neighbors shortcomings. Your alpaka will know this.
I don’t know of any worse violations, but maybe you could help and inform me, I must have missed something.
While you are at it, could you please tell on what legal basis the US government (not the average American people) imposes sanctions, and funds and organizes regime changes? Sanctions are brutal economic warfare against civilian populations, including pregnant women and children. To starve to death is a long and brutal way to die, malnutrition causes permanent brain damage, it is a crime against human rights.
Biden is starving Afghan and Venezuelan children among others. Clinton killed about 500 000 children
(maybe it was ONLY 200 00o) in Iraq and Madeleine Albright, god rest her soul, said the price was not too much to pay for Iraq.
Since the US has veto power and is in control of the UN they simply ignore international laws. War crimes is only what the others do.
One small correction, Renate:
God DAMN her soul.
Agreed. They’re on an escalation elevator. Rapidly moral gradations blur, become meaningless.
The nature of war, … cluster bombs, saturation bombing, agent orange, napalm, …?
Napalm was tried out during WWII, in France. Jellied gasoline it was called.
That’s what it is.
The most nefarious thing about napalm is that it incinerates human beings but leaves buildings intact. Who thought THAT was a good idea? 😠
And more to the point there is no fucking thing we can do to stop it.
Nicely stated wendell, nicely stated. 🙂
OOOOOO,oooooo, I have a funny inkling that any all out with the Russians will take not just a few of “The nations military profiteers are the elite in government. industry and finance that don’t want to fight and die protecting their wealth.” Russian hyprsonics R right now immune to being intercepted, so lots of well protected targets will be getting the answer, should all out be the call…!!!!
The elite does not believe it can happen to them, is what I believe. Of course, I hope they are dead wrong, just in case.
Is Eric in on the deal??
Hi Renate
Anyone who believes that Amerikkka long ago stopped producing chemical weapons is dead wrong. My niece in Colorado, a chemist, is currently employed decommissioning a mustard gas plant.
The Russians should leave, return to the 2000 border and all this will stop.
Not going to happen. Anglo-American empire need to leave Eurasian continent.
The Ukrainian government should leave areas they claim where they are not wanted. That state had their chance to govern in a reasonable fashion. Instead, they sought to become a ethnic dominated state. Fine. They get to have an ethnic state. But it won’t include much of the territory it claims. That claim is void.
According to few here, Russians are too peaceful and diplomatic however, the reality is that Invasions and taking rich land from neighbors is more palatable for the Kremlin and for that, there are no shortages of justifications.
Biden’s USA is the biggest enemy of all the people and the planet. All the MEMBERS of USA/ NATO governments ARE a BUNCH of IDIOTS, psychopaths’ money and power is all they KNOW and WANT.
What monsters they really are.
See the scorched earth ME and Libya in N. Africa, the misery in Latin America, Afghanistan, where one looks it is nothing but scorched earth, whatever they touch it turns to S*H*I*T.
Try to pay attention. History is your friend.
The USA ,starting with W. followed by the war criminals Obama/Biden, should have stayed out, they had no business in Ukraine.
Senile and ruthless Biden will not stop, he and all the neocons want Regime Change in Russia and Russia weakened, it is about the resources Russia has and power and money.
Back to the good old Yeltsin time when Trump made money in Russia. Navalny will be available once he gets out of prison.
Donna V: you are correct. All we will know is a flash of light,a blast of heat,big winds and bang we are all dead.
Many would die. Even more would later die of starvation and radiation poisoning. Survivors would include cockroaches and the human equivalent of cockroaches.
Cockroaches would be better stewards of the earth than humanity.
I’m not so sure that the U.S. and its flock of Gnomes would like to see the full on nuclear 200 megaton might of the Russian arsenal @ 4000 times greater than WWII ones in Japan The reply to some tactical 3 kiloton hit on advancing columns towatd Crimea is more apt to be more restrained, thsn to invite all NATO capitals into smoking ruins. I would not want to be living in the NATO state that gets such a reply.
Or even enjoy a Black Russian! 🙁
The US needs to decide whether it is a World leader, for peace, or just a first rate weapons dealer.
They made that decision a long time ago. Profit is the winner.
Who profits if we die a slow death by nuclear fallout?
The profiteers believe they will, only they may not live long enough to find out and enjoy their profits. That would be better for them than to die a slow and painful way which they would deserve.
Good question. The profiteers believe they will win no matter what. We may not live long enough to find out if they really do if they can hide under a big enough rock with cockroaches they can eat for dinner.
I was not aware that the US even had aspirations to be a world leader for peace – I may have missed announcements of such aspirations, if so could you indicate which US president made this a goal?
Why does the US stock these weapons in the first place?
In case we decide to kill a lot of people very quickly. We feel the need to do that from time to time and cluster munitions are particularly good at that.
And it’s the gift that keeps on giving, children in Laos were being wounded decades aftter the Vietnam war.
Indeed, it starts to look like a feature not a bug.
The death that keeps on killing.
Who gives a rat’s ass?
We are speaking of TWO individuals. The United Snakes can bargain with Russia about bringing a basketball player (big whoop) home, but nary a word about negotiating the end of a war that is killing/ maiming/ displacing millions. How f*cked up is that?
“Who gives a rat’s ass” I don’t expect you to care about Europeans, only Africans and Afghans and the rest of your extended family.
Extend “family” far enough and it’s everyone.
Thanks Thomas 😘
You’ve no idea who my “extended family” is, asswipe.
Yeah, and f*ck the EU…Ireland excepted, of course.
And here everybody was sure we were running out of weapons to give them.
… But CNN told us that Russia was committing war crimes because they use clusters bombs. I don’t understand (sarcasm). Ukraine has been using cluster bombs since the start of the war, I guess they are not able to make their own.
Well you know, mainstream propaganda always consistent at manufacturing the exact opposite of reality. In fact, I find such lack of imagination and consistency to be very useful.
It’s a lot cheaper and easier to have someone else give you nasty weapons than make your own. It’s also cheaper and easier to not render the land you claim to value so much indefinitely unusable. All nations should dismantle and ban cluster bombs.
Yeah, cluster bombs are nasty. I served as a medical corpsman in Vietnam. But napalm is even worse. It scared the “merde” out of me.
Let’s see how this “rules based” administration handles this one.
Perhaps these illegal cluster bombs should be dropped on Joey Biden and his entourage!
To bad idiot Beau Biden went from brain cancer and not senile Joey Biden!
I fully support such action but Creepy Joke is just a puppet. It wont change anything. The puppet will simply be replaced with another. The parasites who install puppets and pull the strings need to be exterminated. And cluster bomb might be too honorable. Gas or poison that filth.
Radical.. but yes, somethings need to change.
China exports jobs, industry, infrastructure; we export bombs/warplanes/weapons.
And Russia provides, food, fertilizer, rare earths, energy, industrial metals and more. Real stuff. Like China.
We run the world. What need care we for the rules of others?
Apparently there is no limit to the lowness of the US arms manufacturers talking about selling Cluster bombs to Ukraine to kill civilians which just joins a long list of such crimes being committed by the Military and there hired mercenaries.Needless to say the US and Israel will ,never be brought to justice for human rights violations.
Cluster bombs for the cluster fck, sounds about right.
Would Trump do this?
Probably not.
Trump was weak. He likely would have gone along with this. Look at who he was surrounded with.
Yet Biden did it and look who he has surrounding him, LOL!
A bunch of Zionazis. ‘Nuff said.
Interestingly enough the Nazi Rump Rada inner circle in Ukraine is 2/3rd Jewish. Amazing really just how corrupt and criminal things are.
The victims of the greatest crime in history are now the perpetrators.
He dropped the MOAB and then bragged about it.
Yes he would have.
War is hell, Elmo.
Whenever I hear “Biden is considering giving certain weapons to Ukraine,” I get a feeling they were already delivered. It’s like a deal with the devil. Too good to be true. Nothing is cheaper than free. Not only is it free, the devil will also pay you to use it. But one day, you may have to pay for it with your own life.
The way US is participating in this war that Ukraine can not win, I wouldn’t be surprise if US start supplying chemical agent bombs to Ukraine since conventional weapons won’t do the job…!
Ukraine already using illegal/banned “petal mines”. Wouldn’t put it past them to use cluster bombs as well at some point. Desperation is slowly showing.
“Ukraine Wants US Cluster Bombs”
US Seeks Ukraine Pledge to Use them Safely
😂
What next? Hollow point rifle bullets?
Everyone screaming that Ukraine wants these new ammunition while ignoring the fact that it is Russia the one that has been using Cluster bombs extensively in Ukraine. But let’s only call out Ukraine in the name of peace.
Zzz
Merkel confesses that Minsk1 and Minsk2 were lies to buy time for Ukraine to rebuild its forces to attack Russia. Frau Merkel revealed this in her interview with the Zeit newspaper.
Moscow is well aware that NATO was using Ukraine to attack Russia. The Russian people are demanding US blood and a total defeat of NATO. For the Russian people there is no path to peace, they will only accept the total defeat of the Western powers that brought fascism and war.
Yeah. I read reports of this and was hoping it was false or somehow exaggerated.
To me, it is really sucky that the US will turn any investigation of 2014 in Ukraine into a partisan investigation. This is a very effective way to guarantee that it accomplishes nothing.
On a practical note, the rest of the world does not care. All the diplomatic overtures made by the US were totally and completely lying. The lies of Iraq were accepted by both parties, and so were these lies.
Saw an article that states the Pentagon has decided that attacks deep inside Russia can be justified. Looks like we’re going to enter a really ugly stage of this Biden proxy war.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Russians remove major Ukrainian cites from the off-limits list in response.
My loathing for the ugly thing that has taken over my country knows no bounds.
Moscow will just keep meat grinding NATO in Ukraine, there is no need for them to change a wining strategy. The danger is that NATO once defeated will nuke Russia. When that happens its all over for all of us.
Agreed. This is the outcome I’ve come to expect. It’s obvious that Biden and his idiots have finally realized that they are in a war they can lose and lose big – something I think was not in their minds when they concocted this lunacy.
There’s nowhere they can go now except to escalate the violence and hope they can get the Russians to commit to a second time what they were driven to do in February, thereby legitimizing (in their diseased minds) a war with NATO forces operating from Ukraine.
I can only say this:
Biden’s entire entourage belongs in the dock at the Hague for crimes against humanity. Their violation of Human rights and values deserves the severest punishments.
“Biden’s entire entourage belongs in the dock at the Hague for crimes against humanity. Their violation of Human rights and values deserves the severest punishments.”
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read today.
Now there can be no doubt that Washington DC is indeed using Ukraine as their pawn against Russia.
Ukraine has been using cluster bombs for already some time now in the Donbas region. There is video evidence of this. They are called patels and look like butterflies. Especially children are attracted to them thinking they are toys. They do not necessarily kill but maim victims of this ordnance for life. They blind and blow of hands and feet. It’s a war crime using them. The US used them in Yemen and Laos during the Vietnam war. Even to this very day 50 years later they still maim children in that country.
Senile Joe is a bit confused. Wait until he kills us ALL. He is STILL promoting death and destruction in YOU-craine.