Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday signed a decree that ruled out any talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, declaring they would be an “impossibility.”
The decree was first put forward by the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine. According to the Ukrainian newspaper Ukrainska Pravda, the decree states “the impossibility of holding negotiations with the president of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin.”
The move formalized comments that Zelensky made on Friday following Putin’s approval of annexing four Ukrainian territorites. “He does not know what dignity and honesty are. Therefore, we are ready for a dialogue with Russia, but with another president of Russia,” Zelensky said.
Responding to Zelensky’s move, the Kremlin said it would wait until he changes his position or until there’s a new president in Kyiv to hold talks. “We will now wait either until the incumbent Ukrainian president changes his position, or until there is another president in Ukraine who will change his position for the sake of the Ukrainian people,” Peskov said.
During his speech Friday, Putin said he was open to talks with Ukraine but said the status of the territories Russia is annexing is not up for discussion. “We call on the Kyiv regime to immediately cease fire and all hostilities; to end the war it unleashed back in 2014 and return to the negotiating table,” he said.
“We are ready for this, as we have said more than once. But the choice of the people in Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson will not be discussed,” Putin added.
The US has shown no signs of supporting a diplomatic solution and the Biden administration has no plans to back down on their support for Ukraine despite the risk of provoking Moscow.
Pride goes before a fall. Zelensky is displaying all the signs that he is flushed with recent success and therefore does not need any dialogue but will rely on brute force to retake areas occupied by Russia. Beware the “wolf” in Winter.
US Signs Decree Ruling Out Peace Talks With Putin as ‘Impossible’
‘During his speech Friday, Putin said he was open to talks with Ukraine but said the status of the territories Russia is annexing is not up for discussion.”
— How can you expect talks with a country you invaded and took land from with no intentions to return any? Go F yourself, Putin.
“We call on the Kyiv regime to immediately cease fire and all hostilities; to end the war it unleashed back in 2014 and return to the negotiating table,” he said.
–This is funny. Putin is feeling the burn now, he is humbling now.
How ridiculous is to call on Kyiv to cease the fire you started and been adding firewood to it? Really hope Ukraine continues to push them all the way back to the motherland one village at the time.
Maybe if you were a Russian-speaking citizen living in Eastern Ukraine you might change your tune!
Maybe if you were a Ukrainian living in Eastern Ukraine, you might change your tone.
This is not one side is better that the other. We are talking territorial integrity of a nation that Russia promised/signed to uphold then violated on BS pretexts.
Putting missiles on Russia’s southern border is a very real threat.bombarding their co ethnics in the Donbass is a very real offense.
Same 14,000 Donbass people killed by Ukraine shelling playbook BS response.
Missiles on Russia’s border?
I think now we know why we put those missiles there. Russia will always invade former USSR neighboring countries that disagree with them.
So when Russia moves forces along its border with NATO, does that give NATO a pretext to invade Russia and take land?
That’s exactly what Kennan said the warmongers would say when Russia finally responded to NATO’s expansion to their borders. They finally understood that no matter what, appeasement by them did no good.
That’s exactly what Kennan said the warmongers would say when Russia finally responded to NATO’s expansion to their borders. They finally understood that no matter what, appeasement by them did no good.
It’s wasn’t 14,000 civilians but Z still was “killing his own people.”
I doubt the Ukrainians living in the east cared much for the shelling from the west during the past eight years either.
But apart from that, you seem to have missed the point, the entire point at that, that all the people living in the east are Ukrainians, including the Russian speakers.
I submit that, on the basis of what you write, you know absolutely nothing about eastern Ukraine.
Yes, I know nothing after living in Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine. Never mind my education on International Relations / Russian politics.
Thanks for the compliment.
Do you need a hug or someone to talk to? Let me know. I’m pretty down to earth. Just not anti US.
So you are tainted with your opinions.
As long as you continue with the “BS pretexts” line, which is the real BS, you’ll never be wrong. Nothing happened prior to Feb 2022. Nothing.
A lot happened before February 2022 including Peter the Great’s declaration that he was “Czar of all the Russias” in 1547, Catherine the Great’s campaign of forced assimilation that banned Ukrainian religion, language, schools, culture and names and which continued up to the 1917 Revolution and the depredations of the Czarist Cossack functionaries who raped and pillaged Ukraine and organized pogroms against Jews and Catholics at the behest of their Kremlin overlords. History did not start in 1991.
As long as you continue with the BS Minsk agreement and before, you’ll never be wrong.
You’ll always side with anything but US. Can help you with that.
I go back to the day the cold war ended. Not hard to see who has been the provocative one all along. So, I’m right back to thinking you think history started post Feb. 2022 if you refuse to even acknowledge what went on during that time.
I have given you many historical facts that you have ignored because they don’t fit your narrative.
Remember the Budapest Memorandum discussion? Very important and relevant event if you ask scholars.
So I while ago when you brought up your daily Minsk Agreement line, I brought up the Budapest Memorandum. Your response: ~ “I don’t care about the Budapest Memorandum.”
So hmm, that was way before 24 Feb, yet you rejected that historical fact. I wonder why.
So really, stop your repeated whining. Offer solutions or “shut the fuck up.”
Man, you are full of sh*t. My response about the Budapest agreement was that it happened before the coup or the war games or any of the many sanctions and provocations. And I haven’t brought up the Minsk Agreement on a “daily” basis or even what one would consider occasionally. You have arguments with so many people here that you don’t know who said what, so you just lump everyone together. You know, we’re all “Putin lovers” even if we aren’t. And once again, I will continue to comment on anything I damn well please. Your problem is you’re getting b*tch slapped so much you accuse my stating of actual facts as a form of “whining”. So, do everyone a favor and YOU shut the f*ck up.
As if we (the US) never make mistakes. See Serbia, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and now Ukraine.
Are actually from the US?
A lot happened before February 2022 including Peter the Great’s declaration that he was “Czar of all the Russias” in 1547, Catherine the Great’s campaign of forced assimilation that banned Ukrainian religion, language, schools, culture and names and which continued up to the 1917 Revolution and the depredations of the Czarist Cossack functionaries who raped and pillaged Ukraine and organized pogroms against Jews and Catholics at the behest of their Kremlin overlords. History did not start in 1991.
Was Napoleon in power in Ukraine at that time?
A lot happened before February 2022 including Peter the Great’s declaration that he was “Czar of all the Russias” in 1547, Catherine the Great’s campaign of forced assimilation that banned Ukrainian religion,
language, books, schools, culture and names and which continued up to the 1917 Revolution and the depredations of the Czarist Cossack functionaries
who raped and pillaged Ukraine and organized pogroms against Catholics and another persecuted religious group that I am not allowed to mention on this site. The pogroms were organized at the behest of their Kremlin overlords. History did not start in 1991.
“History did not start in 1991.”
Thank you once again for the history lesson. I guess if you say it enough, you will be convinced that the vast majority of Russia’s stated grievances have indeed been prior 1991. But listening to their grievances that they wanted addressed pre-invasion, they certainly sounded like they were indeed almost exclusively related to what has happened post 1991.
I supported Putin’s very reasonable grievances up to February 24th. I am anti-NATO. But Putin’s legitimate grievances did not justify this terrible war that is hurting jussia, Ukraine and the rest of the world. Russia is worse off than if Putin had not invaded and Putin will probably be neutered or replaced before this is over. A classical antiwar movement is building in Russia because the Russian people do not want to fight a war over Ukraine.
And his “reasonable grievances” didn’t disappear. Nor his “legitimate grievances”.
It’s pointless to point out that their favorite dictatorships have ever done anything wrong. The commenters here just deny, deny, deny. Uyghur suppression in China is fake news. The Crimean Tatars weren’t exiled to the steppes in the ‘40s, they had a long history of immigration! (I heard that one just this week.)
“We didn’t round up Japanese-Americans, take their property and force them into camps.”
It’s funny how mongers now are so worried about foreign Muslims in China, but when we destroyed Muslim Iraq, they mocked Muslims as “the religion of peace.”
Yes, we did that, 80 years ago. And it was reprehensible. But it doesn’t make it OK for China to do.
Also, I’ve never been anti-Muslim. My own grandfather was Palestinian and I grew up in a community with tons of Arab-Americans, including Muslims.
He said Russia (Putin) had “reasonable grievances” and “legitimate grievances” which is ALL that I have said I agree with Putin on. I have gone out of my way to point out that I think he is a thug on many occasions. So, kiss my a$$ about supporting “favorite dictatorships”
Oh, I didn’t mean you! I was talking about other commenters. You’ve always been quite sane on this issue.
Sorry then. I dislike all leaders quite equally.
That was when Ukraine was neutral and not an enemy.
Particularly after 14,000 of fellow Russian-speaking Ukraine citizens killed by shelling from Kiev.
Do you have the evidence on that ? Or is that your playbook response?
They don’t. I’ve asked half a dozen times and I’m generally ignored or given a random link about civilian deaths that doesn’t say who caused them. The last time I asked, somebody quoted Wikipedia lol
You apparently missed that the Wikipedia passage cited the same sources you used. You do understand footnotes right? Never mind. You obviously don’t.
Yes, and those sources didn’t support the argument you were trying to make.
Also, my 13-year-old son knows better than to use Wikipedia as a source
Actually the do. And ad hominem attacks are rather amusing.
That’s not an “ad hominem attack.” I didn’t attack your character or person — I cast aspersions on your idea of a good source for your claims.
I’m still waiting for a source for this.
You need to do a little research.. I’m guessing you haven’t at all.
If I do more research, I’ll find more supporting data that I’m right.
Maybe you need to consult someone or something beyond yourself.
Your assumption is noted.
That is my favorite thing about this site. I have learned so much while looking up information to try to find out more about some of the claims I’ve heard here. And shockingly, I generally find that they’re either exaggerated, baseless, wrong, or very very wrong.
Kool-Aid drinking babble is not unique to pro-war types. It just multiplies exponentially among them when they find a war they like and need to find ways to be pro-war while pretending to be anti-war.
I agree wholeheartedly, but there seems to be a higher than average concentration of Kool-Aid drinkers in the comments
I’m not a Spartacist/Fourth Internationalist (or for that matter a Marxist of any variety), but their Leninist/Trotskyite position is close to correct:
“In wars of imperialist depredation against colonial, semicolonial or dependent nations, the duty of the proletariat in every country is to aid the oppressed nations against the imperialists, while maintaining complete political independence from bourgeois and petty-bourgeois nationalist forces.”
This is a war between the US/EU/NATO empire and the Russian empire. The Ukrainian regime is in thrall to the former, the Ukrainian people are being victimized by both the former and the latter. The best outcome would be for both imperialist regimes to be overthrown.
Ah. The empire thing again.
How does it feel to be in the minority in one of the websites that isn’t pro-imperialist. Most of the “US can never do anything wrong” media, when it comes to overseas militarism, don’t want to be counterpointed with facts, and don’t even allow comments
You claim to be a libertarian. A key principle of libertarianism is the Non Aggression Principle. Under the Non Aggression Principle, people who are being aggressed against have the right to empower others, even governments to defend themselves.
Libertarians are not pacifists. You confuse support for those in the Donbas for being pro war. Not accurate.
What I decidedly do not support is the US government stealing money from me and others who object to supporting a criminal regime that officially engages in cultural ethnic clensing.
I do not fund the Russian state. I am forced by threats of violence to support the US state. Somehow you think that is pro war. Once again you are wrong.
“You confuse support for those in the Donbas for being pro war.”
No, I don’t. In fact, I’ve supported those in the Donbas for eight years.
I’m not a pacifist. I support the overthrow of both imperialist regimes (Ukraine/US/EU/NATO and Russia) that have been torturing the people of the Donbas (and all other people as well).
How were the people of the Donbas supposed to resist the US/NATO Kiev regimes overwhelming forces?
So, what were the people in Donbas supposed to do when the Kiev regime had overwhelming military advantage and were backed by the US/NATO?
Google will abide you by putting sources you would like at the top of their lists.
Down-voted for numerous errors of statement and omission.
I’m heart broken. No, seriously.
In this blog, I’m considered wrong by 99% of commenters because I support the underdog and I’m not anti US.
It really hurts.
But just like Ukraine, Big Things Have Small Beginnings.
I always do my part with the ‘DOWN” vote, to cement the fact you are wrong.
Like I care about your irrelevance.
The fact that you haven’t blocked me, tells me I give you a reason to be in this blog.
You just said you were “hearbroken” It is somewhat entertaining. I don’t block like FB and TWITTER, etc., your kind of establishment “free” media.
The underdog were the people of the Donbas who the war criminals in the US puppet Ukraine government were murdering for standing up for their human rights.
You support the criminals in Kiev because you believe that a state owns it’s people. That governments give rights to a population and can suspend those rights whenever those that control feel like it.
“” Zelensky signed a decree that ruled out any talks with Russian President Putin “” because zelensky can’t seem to pull his head out of his ass.
there; i fixed it for you.
“He does not know what dignity and honesty are. Therefore, we are ready for a dialogue with Russia, but with another president of Russia,” Zelensky said.
Shades of Biden.
Biden the half plate of sh*t. Nina called it.
The whole Biden administration is a POS.
Sh1tcan be used as fertilizer. The Biden administration can’t be used for anything useful.
LOL.
Two peas in a pod.
What would you do if you were Zelensky, the leader of Ukraine?
What’s your solution?
A dumb question, the only decent thing to do would be negotiation, but Z has no authority to even say it. He is just scum.
1. Question was not addressed to you.
2. “Z is no leader” YOU are delusional
3. You read incompetence like the very nation’s army you desperately support.
4. Fair question not addressed to you and even if, you are seemingly unable to provide an intellectual answer.
5. You are irrelevant.
Actually I only critiqued the question.
Let me be clear, we have a senile president who topped it by picking incompetent people to advise him.
Question on you, what is your solution?
What could/should Biden have done to prevent one of the most avoidable wars in history?
All the Russians asked for was autonomy for Russian speaking Ukrainians per the MINSK II agreement and security of the Russian borders, no NUCLEAR weapons and NATO membership in return for Ukrainian neutrality and prosperity guaranteed by Russia and the Europeans. Mind you, Russia is not known to break agreements like Americans do.
The Biden wrecking crew did not even honor the customs of diplomacy, they did not reply timely and diplomatically. They continued to demonize President Putin and the Russian people.
That is why it is Biden’s war, not Putin’s.
Z is no leader, he is a hired scumbag.
You realize by comparing Z to scumbags you are insulting scumbags.
Sorry, I got carried away.
It’s what I would have done. And that would have been to uphold my campaign promises and not sold my soul to the US/NATO /DEVIL. The sad fact is that the original “demands” Russia was making pre-invasion are going to be nothing but wishful thinking from here on out. The whole idea of taking down Russia without the rest of the world being wrecked was, and still is, insane thinking. My solution went out the window long ago.
Got it, You have no solution so stop bitching so much.
Fuck you. I have a right to give my opinion just like anyone else. Don’t ask for it if you don’t want to hear it you simpleton.
Give Russia the territories where the citizens are ethnic Russians. Drop the NATO bid.
Get rid of the Nazis in the military. Stop bombing the civilians in the newly claimed territories. Promise to remove the western corporations and politicians from their country.
NATO exists to defeat Russia and have lied repeatedly about their intentions to expand.
There it is. The simple and just answer.
Maybe “ready for dialogue” when there’s a new POTUS as well.
Yes, and next week, Zelensky will be saying that Russia won’t negotiate.
I’m sure that Putin knows that Zelensky doesn’t actually matter anyway. Ukraine is only a pawn in a battle between the US and Russia. We all know who is calling the shots.
It constantly amazes me that Ukrainians who think they are fighting for their country don’t understand that the US controls the decisions made by Kyev, and will continue to call the shots whether they win or lose the battles against Russia.
Noriega and Saddam both thought they were in control. But they weren’t.
Yes. There are probably enough “advisers”, “trainers” in Kiev, also logistics “assists”, and, of course the CIA. The other day Z said he wanted the U.S. to take over the tracking and active targeting. Folks, it looks like it is on. Contact old friends, family, enjoy some of your favorite things, attend whatever religious affiliation you belong to. And remember this is all over some stupid oil pipelines and crap in the ground.
Has NOTHING to do with pipelines or crap in the ground…Try harder.
It is all about natural resources AND unipolar US hegemony over global energy resources. The tool to rule the world.
If Russia won’t negotiate about anything that matters, it effectively won’t negotiate.
The only one refusing to negotiate is Biden, what Z wants is of no consequence, Z gets paid for doing as told.
Why would Biden negotiate? Zero US casualties, Russian army being ground to powder. I would say we can keep this up all day. The only potential problem is if the Russians retake the house.
Yes, why should Biden negotiate, the worst that can happen to people like you is that your sugar gets rationed. Americans don’t fight for their country, they hire mercenaries. Human rights and laws are for other people not Americans. Biden is a devious, and vindictive and sadistic man and so are the people who advise him.
They are a bunch of real war criminals, on par with Hitler. Really evil people.
Here are some questions for you:
Are you American? What do you stand for? Is it peace or Russia’s well being?
I stand for human decency and common sense and peace and prosperity for all people. Yes, peace for the Russia and the people, they have done nothing to us.
May I ask what you stand for as a human being, regardless of nationality?
What do you have against Russia?
Dumb
NOne of our business or shouldn’t be. How did the US ever survive when there was a Soviet Union, an East Germany and a Warsaw Pact?
We did not have mentally retarded presidents like Biden nor were the Demorrhoids and Republicans that stupid.
The politicians in the US are self-centered mirror-fogging mouth-breathing idiots.
They have company. Trudeau, Bojo the Clown, Little Napoleon Macron, the Greenie German, etc. as Martin Armstrong has said, the western world is plagued with incompetent leadership everywhere you look!
You cannot answer simple questions.
BTW, not American. I get it.
Good to know.
BTW, blind nationalism is not the same as honest patriotism. Look in the mirror once in a while.
Biden is “not American”? Context please.
NOne of our business or shouldn’t be. How did the US ever survive when there was a Soviet Union, an East Germany and a Warsaw Pact?
Someone’s been drinking the MSM Kool aid
With Biden’s mental incapacity, anything he does, he was directed to do by his handlers in the State Department, insofar as Ukraine is concerned, or any other foreign policy issues. He actually belongs in the special wing of a nursing home.
Oh, there have been casualties of US citizens & soldiers. Judy not on US soil.
You’re kidding right?
Russian army being ground to powder< only a drooling ardtard believes this drivel.
Great spirit, thats the stuff. I guess this goes on till we all agree
Watch CNN much? Other alphabet networks? You know, the ones spewing nonsense propaganda daily? If you think Russia is on the ropes, you’ve got another thing coming.
time will tell.
The coordination of the whole MSM all over NATO is amazing. I wonder who runs the show, credit were credit is due, they are very competent people. Top of the line propaganda. The editors march in goose step. Leni
Riefenstahl could learn from them, and she did a great job.
“Why would Biden negotiate? Zero US casualties…The only potential problem is if”…
…if the US runs out of Ukrainians to get slaughtered?
Yea, see yr point…
My sources suggest that the burn rate for Russians is higher than for Ukrainians, plus all kidding aside, it is their land they are more motivated. The USA killed 10X or more Vietnamese to every US soldier so we thought that ought to equal a win, the problem was the Vietnamese were willing to take that deal.
A possible outcome although unlikely is that Russia will “win” a depopulated heap of rubble with 200k dead Russian men. I will be disappointed of course but in the end I will get over it, and Russia will not.
“A possible outcome although unlikely is that Russia will ‘win’ a depopulated heap of rubble with 200k dead Russian men. I will be disappointed of course-”
“Disappointed”? Wow your compassion runneth over – don’t forget to send flowers to surviving Ukrainian wives, mothers and children of the dead, who will doubtless be “disappointed” too:
“In Lviv, a city in the West that has avoided serious shelling, wives and mothers of men in the 103rd Territorial Defense Brigade have protested, terrified about their husbands’ and sons’ deployment into combat in the East. To assuage concerns, a commander…met with about 200 women in a concert hall but the conversation devolved into screaming and crying, local media reported.”
NYT, “A whistle, then a deadly barrage. Ukraine’s soldiers…”
See also: NPR, “Ukrainians express worries over conscription following R’s invasion”
I wish the Russians would pack up today and leave, that would be the least worse outcome but they aren’t doing that. Those dead Russians have families too.
You don’t realize it was democrats, and Hilary, who worked with a Russians to influence the election. It was a democrat who worked with the Ukrainians to influence an election. It was democrats who set up the meeting with the Russian and Trump Jr in Trump Tower.
It was Trump who prevented an invasion anywhere by Putin. Putin invaded under WBush, Obama, and Biden, but not Trump. China stayed relatively quiet under Trump.
Under Biden Ukraine lost a quarter of its land and more than 10% of their people. And China surrounded Taiwan with live fire exercises.
When Biden was VP the US attacked Syria, Libya and abandoned Egypt to near civil war. And kept the senseless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan going.
Biden and friends are bigger warmongers than Putin.
Get out of your bigotry bubble and the world will make more sense.
Biden is giving weapons and advice to his new pal Zelensky . Negotiations have to be between Ukr and Rus .
You are wrong, the war is between the USA and Russia, Ukraine and NATO are proxies to be thrown under the bus.
Biden is in the process to throw Germany, a big and loyal ally, under the bus. Biden is intentionally doing that to an ally, think about that. That puts the cherry on the cake.
That is presumably true. Zelenskyy seems to pretty much just be a US/NATO cat’s paw who has good reason to fear the Ngo Dinh Diem treatment if he steps out of line.
But what is it that you expect Biden to negotiate? The basis for negotiation is giving up something to get something else. What is on the table for Biden to get?
Crimea and the two Donbas republics aren’t on the table. Putin can’t let them go and remain in power (or, probably, alive).
Kherson and Zaporizhia aren’t really on the table because Putin can’t hold them anyway. Biden knows this, so there’s nothing to negotiate on there.
But if Putin can solidify a line of control encompassing LPR/DPR, he can declare “victory” and PRETEND he was magnanimous in giving up Kherson and Zaporizhia. That might be enough to stop the fighting without negotiating over things that neither side has to, or is willing to, compromise on.
Biden does not want to give anything, he wants unconditional surrender, Putin must go, Navalny is his replacement option and a robbing of Russia’s wealth as under Yeltsin, Clinton’s man at the time and a Russia in pieces.
NEOCON POLICY DOCTRINE
“The main message of the neocons is that the US must predominate in military power in every region of the world, and must confront rising regional powers that could someday challenge US global or regional dominance, most importantly Russia and China. For this purpose, US military force should be pre-positioned in hundreds of military bases around the world and the US should be prepared to lead wars of choice as necessary. The United Nations is to be used by the US only when useful for US purposes.” JEFFREY SACHS
With senile Biden and neocons around him there is no chance to negotiate. They will go to the brink of a nuclear war
In the end there is not much of Ukraine left, the best it might expect is a neutral state which they could have had last Dec/January with some common sense and good will. Just not with a senile Biden.
The fighting won’t stop until Donbas goes back to the February 24th line of control. Even then there will be a state of war in the occupied territories indefinitely even if it is a scaled back to a guerrilla war.
That would only be continuing the civil war. A nightmare for the Ukrainian people. With Putin there is a chance to clean up.
@warsrus:disqus Where’s your come back to this statement? I’m pretty sure if I wrote something remotely similar, you’d be all over it.
“My solution went out the window long ago.”
This is what I replied to you when you asked what Zelensky should do. So ,Thomas was just reiterating what I said. He’s not AGAINST diplomacy like you, he just knows it’s fruitless.
“Putin can’t hold them anyway.”
LOL Is anyone here who read that not laughing as well? This level of delusion is just awesome.
What is on the table for Biden to get?
How about the beginning of a return to sanity? How much would that be worth?
Actually Biden should get kicked in his a*s to fly to the moon without a return ticket.
Even Ukrainians must know, the music plays in Washington not in Kiev. People like Zelensky get paid to say otherwise, he is the traitor of his country and people.
The US basically put him in that position in 2019.
True, they encouraged him to toss the MINSK II AGREEMENT, he tossed the opportunity of neutrality and peace and prosperity for the Ukrainian people. The Obama/Biden regime change did not stop the corruption the justification for the regime change.
Now there is nothing but scorched earth, blood, and suffering, all for American interests.
For decades.
John J. Mearsheimer, political scientist and international relations scholar, in 2015 which nobody listened.
“The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path and the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked.”
George Kennan, American diplomat and historian, right after the US Senate approved NATO expansion all the way back in 1998:
“I think it is the beginning of a new cold war. I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies….Of course there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then [the NATO expanders] will say that we always told you that is how the Russians are — but this is just wrong.”
CIA Director William Burns’s 2008 memo to then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice: “Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for the Russian elite (not just Putin).
Last US ambassador to the USSR Jack Matlock: “an avoidable crisis that was predictable, actually predicted, willfully precipitated, but easily resolved by the application of common sense”:
1997: “I consider the Administration’s recommendation to take new members into NATO at this time misguided. If it should be approved by the United States Senate, it may well go down in history as the most profound strategic blunder made since the end of the Cold War. Far from improving the security of the United States, its Allies, and the nations that wish to enter the Alliance, it could well encourage a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat to this nation since the Soviet Union collapsed.”
Amongst others.
Zelensky is Blinken’s puppet.
The threats from DC and Azov must be coming in thick and fast if he’s so desperately trying to reassure them. He’s riding a tiger and will end up in its stomach. This is a perfect time for a peace process and his masters are worried.
He said Kiev, not the ugly “Kyiv”. The city has been known as Kiev its entire existence, but from 2020 or so propagandists demanded that the spelling be “Ukrainified”.
They also call Nikolaev “Mykolaiv” to Ukrainify the spelling. Even though the city was founded by Russian Prince Potemkin and named by him after Saint Nikolas. Now when you look at Google Maps, it’s rewritten as “Mykolaiv”.
They even write “Kyivan Rus” in some places in Wikipedia, though they haven’t thought of all pages where it appears. Vikings founded the Kievan Rus, the beginning of Russia, and their descendants ruled there as nobility until they moved Russia’s center to St. Petersburg. As Kievan Rus is the origin of Russia, it has always, always been spelled Kievan Rus. In history books in Russia, in the West, in Ukraine, in fiction, etc. In “Vikings” on Netflix, you name it. But the globalists want to rewrite history.
And pronounced “Keeeeev” 😉
Don’t you think the people who live in a city have the ability to know how it should be spelled and pronounced? Do you tell Germans how to pronounce Mönchengladbach?
I still see Russia wasting so many missiles and bombs on low level targets!
You know what, if the war drags out for years and when Russia conquers Ukraine at the cost of millions of lives on both sides, I hope he has the decency to do what Hitler did.
Absolute warmonger.
I can understand his motivation here, but is he prepared to sacrifice his entire country and population rather than negotiate?
Zelensky is insane. USA is backing the wrong side. The only reason sleepy Joe backs Ukraine is that it has been such a great cash cow for the Biden international crime network.
Peace will end the billions of American tax dollars flowing into his pockets
This guy wants to die and will take his countryman down with him like Biden plans to do before the election.
US politicians flock to the cesspool known as Ukraine like rats to a sewer. Except they created the sewer.
Zelenskys buddies are going to off him. They have to.
yeah!…you don’t want peace breaking out….US money might dry up
Tyrant dictators are going to dictate like tyrants. Also, can’t have that money train from Pedo Joe dry up. So what if he has to kick back 10% to the Big Guy. Still amassing quite the fortune in those Caribbean secret bank accounts.
If there is anyone so deeply corrupt to the bone, craven and bloodthirsty that deserves to swing, it’s Elenskyyy.
Zelensky doesn’t give a crap about his people.
Except maybe if their corpses form a bridge all the way to his retirement mansion in Florida.
Gee, wonder how Biden’s Burisma deal affected his stance in Ukraine.
“Zelensky Signs Decree Ruling Out Peace Talks With Putin as ‘Impossible’ Zelensky says talks could only be held with Russia when there’s a new president”
Pointless gesture from the little drag queen, Lord Voldomort Zelensky. His days are numbered!
“Zelensky Signs Decree Ruling Out Peace Talks With Putin as ‘Impossible’ Zelensky says talks could only be held with Russia when there’s a new president”
Pointless gesture from the little drag queen, Lord Voldomort Zelensky. His days are numbered!
Zelensky is an out of control psycho.
The majority of the leaders of the western world are out of control psychopaths. Else the wouldn’t be empowering Zelansky.
we know FJB is a pedo and psychopath
Biden blows up Nord Stream pipelines and then blames Russia for high energy prices. If only J6 had been a real insurrection and not an FBI production.
The United States military industrial complex doesn’t want peace because it doesn’t make money or steal the American peoples money. No talk of peace. Zelinsky is a puppet just like Xiden.
The US installed Z in the “color revolution” they orchestrated years ago gaining complete control. Ukraine has been bombing and killing ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine since at least 2014.
The US is also controlled by the globalist cabal that control Western countries thru their banking cartel and they want WW3 for fun and profit. So no peace deal will ever be accepted by them.
Well, that’s pretty much it in a nutshell. Past time to free the people from the psychopaths that are responsible for this galaxy sized cluster f**k.
FVZ must keep the money-laundering war operation running smoothly from which he profit$$$ tremendously of course.
Because the U.S. and the WEF want to get rid of Putin. They must have someone waiting to take his place.
We are sending billions. He doesn’t want it to end. He’s cashing in as we suckers pay him.
Zelensky is a cia puppet
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/10/crazy-sanctions.html#more
“EU Pushes For More Sanctions Which Will Come Back To Bite It.”
Both sides digging in deep. The coming cold winter will bring the final solution.
For too long the west have been enjoying unearned benefits based on selling fake hopes.
From a post at MoA citing a Russian analyst’s view of the situation.
Weird how a bunch of pro-Russia posts from people who’ve never commented here before weee posted all within a hour or two of each other this afternoon.
Don’t forget to check under your bed before you sleep tonight. They’re everywhere, you know 😉
Well, unless they want to hear my dog snoring or really like dustbunnies, they’re in for a sadly disappointing experience!
Everywhere else it’s 90/10 in favor of Ukraine. That’s what a propaganda media will do.
Now Thomas is going to jump on that one, along with Julio.
Nah. Unlike some people who have trouble tolerating disagreement, I don’t assume that all such disagreement is driven by “paid trolls,” bots, sock puppets, etc.
Any given little mini-avalanche of new commenters with similar opinions is more likely to be the result of a high-ranking search engine result, a retweet by someone with lots of followers, etc. Some of those commenters will just do a little drive-by shooting, some will stay to debate.
Weird how a bunch of pro-Russia posts from people who’ve never commented here before weee posted all within a hour or two of each other this afternoon.
Zelensky doesn’t realize that he is summoning hypersonic missiles to his current location. I’m sure they know exactly where he is.
If he negotiated and ended this money laundromat, the billions of Biden bucks going into his and his pals pockets would be over.
fjb
If you “stand with Ukraine” realize that you also stand with the DC-Davos Globoh0m0 cabal that is pushing the Great Reset. This is their war.
They used the phony WuFlu and a phony election to rid America of its nationalist President and now they are attempting the same with Russia using war. Only this time, they plan on going the whole nine yards by bringing on nuclear armageddon. What’s a few hundred million dead peasants when you still get to enjoy your mountaintop villa in Davos complete with endless supply of blow and h00kers. Right,
ZelenskyHunter?Zelensky is corrupt.
We cannot put the US in danger for Ukraine.
Period. Furthermore. I demand accountability for the billions the US has given Ukraine.
Where’s it going,or to whom?
POS Zelinsky is a real tough guy… he’d be in a fricken Gulag by now if it weren’t for American money, weapons and intelligence. He needs to be cut off and left to swim in his own $ hi t. Meanwhile, people keep dying….and it isn’t for Democracy.
What? You doubt that the Kiev regime in Ukraine is a democracy? Stop thinking and obey your betters.
“I support Russia, the country that sends people to gulags!”
Zelensky isn’t in charge. He’s run by the Biden Administration. Biden himself isn’t in charge of anything, either. He’s run by a cabal centered around Obama. Obama and his gang ain’t really in charge. They are operated from the WEF with input from the CCP. Not quite sure what the relationship is between the WEF and the CCP. They are mostly allied in their common effort to subvert the western nation states. But, how they plan to ultimately share or fight over the subsequent power gap is anybody’s guess.
Oh…and rock god/peace activist Roger Waters is on a Ukrainian “kill list”.
Anyone who dares harm Roger is gonna have to deal with ME! And I guarantee they ain’t dealt with anybody like me ! Us redneck cowgirls don’t f*ck around
Waters is no Gilmour, but I hope he stays safe.
Thomas, I can’t imagine one without the other 🙂
what an ass
For a more realistic take on the situation, read Big Serge’s take today on his Substack:
Politics By Other Means
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/politics-by-other-means