An Israeli official said that the US hinted it was preparing a military option against Iran during a meeting between Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz and US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan on Friday, The Times of Israel reported.
The Israeli official said that Gantz told Sullivan that Israel “needs” the US to have a credible military option against Iran. The meeting came as Washington and Tehran are engaged in negotiations to revive the nuclear deal.
The official said that Gantz received “good hints” that the US was preparing a military option. The official didn’t offer details but said the idea of the military option that Israel wants would be to get Iran to make more concessions in negotiations. If not, the US could potentially take military action against the Islamic Republic alongside Israel.
Gantz expressed his opposition to the nuclear deal in the meeting with Sullivan, and the Israelis are stepping up pressure on the Biden administration to abandon the talks. As part of the pressure campaign, the head of Israel’s Mossad spy agency, David Barnea, is heading to Washington next week.
Barnea is expected to brief members of the House and Senate intelligence committees on Israel’s opposition to reviving the nuclear deal, known as the JCPOA. He will also meet with CIA Director William Burns and other Biden administration officials.
On Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid slammed the EU’s recent proposal to revive the JCPOA, calling it a “bad deal.” Iran is currently reviewing the US response to the EU proposal, which came after Tehran gave a response of its own.
Lapid said that the EU proposal is not something President Biden said he would pursue during his trip to Israel in July. “We told the Americans: ‘This is not what President Biden wanted.’ This is not what he talked about during his visit to the country,” he said.
79 thoughts on “US Hints to Israel’s Gantz It’s Preparing Military Option Against Iran”
Well – That is it then.
Israel says its a BAD deal so the deal will Not be signed by the US who need to listen to its MASTER. What a bloody stupid state of affairs. Americans should be ashamed of themselves to kneel and lick the backsides of the State propped up by US Taxpayers money. How many BILLIONS of dollars have been “gifted” to Israel since it was formed??
The climate in america today is not dissimilar to pre-revolutionary France. The heathens will repent
The French; now THEY knew how to do up a Revolution!
Bring on the guillotines!
Yeah sure, since the Ukraine op is going sooooo well.
The West is already short of ammo from supplying its reserve stocks to Ukraine, and it is placing orders for delivery of replacements three years out. So with what will they fight this new war?
Got any reliable source for the claim that “the West is already short of ammo?” The US used to keep enough on hand to fight two major wars with, and the problem wasn’t running out, it was getting rid of it fast enough to make room for incoming supplies.
When I was guarding an ammo depot on the Saudi/Kuwait border after the war in 1991, they were BEGGING us to take stuff out and use it so they wouldn’t have to ship it back. In particular, they gave us 400 LAAWs on the condition that we not bring them back. We shot off about 200 and destroyed the rest. Then they blew up 11,000 tons of ordnance at one time without bothering to let us know first. The explosion knocked my semi-buried GP tent down on top of me, and I immediately assumed that all my men on guard posts at the depot a mile away were dead from an accident. Turned out the explosion was actually 18 miles away.
This is one. I’ve seen quite a few like this, some as to various missiles and weapons out of production, drawn from stores.
The US for 20 years was burning through 5.56 and 7.62 and .50 BMG, so production is running so hot that it has cut into the civilian market, some smaller manufacturers even gone pure military.
It is the stuff that got less use that was not in high level of production, and now stocks are drawn down. We actually took many of the tubes away from Army artillery and used them as infantry.
Meanwhile Javelins and Stingers are a decade out of production, and we have already drawn down near half of our stockpile, with warnings that new production orders require re-starts that are for delivery three years from now.
I’m skeptical. “Uncomfortably low” rings to me as “I have a job waiting for me at that contractor when I retire after my 20 years, if they’re happy with how I talked up the need to buy their stuff.”
Remember, there was a lot of stuff being produced for use in Afghanistan right up to the minute they finally realized they weren’t going to be able to talk Biden into staying … since which military spending has gone up.
I share your distrust of that, for those reasons.
However, I have noted for years the US move into the War on Terror has distorted the entire military system. We must understand it as distorted by 20 years of war the Feds wanted to fight but did not want to pay for. That is an entire generation of people, and the effective competitive lifetime of most weapons and ammo.
So now we have airplanes older than ships used to be, and ships planned to run for 50+ years. We have missiles out of production for a decade, based on electronics no longer produced and made in factories now closed. We had little use for serious artillery against guys on mopeds in the desert, or a cave in Afghanistan, so we just stopped buying it.
Our carriers have half their old air groups, sized so they can maintain a tempo of about four planes at a time doing close air support for a 24 hour cycle. Those half air groups are made up of planes that have already been rebuilt one time to extend the life of their airframes past the original 8,000 flight hours planned for the F-18. They are as old as their pilots, while the B-52 were in some cases actually flown by their grandfathers.
Now the big idea is to begin new production from new factories of those overage designs, with government paying not just for the outdated missiles but also for the new factory itself to be built.
Remember the hype about the Patriot missiles shooting down all of Sadam’s Scuds? Well, now we get the same sort of false, glowing reports of perfection for our missiles in Ukraine, when our own internal reports were of US troops having training problems with those missiles, and problems using them in Afghanistan and Iraq. But now we are told to pay extra to reopen production as fast as possible. That is where I see the pandering to vested interests that you mention.
Good points. That’s not an entirely new problem (they were trying to get rid of the CH-53 helicopter when I got out of the Marine Corps in 1995 and as of a couple of years ago apparently still hadn’t).
A quick survey of likely sources shows no evidence of a military ammo shortage. There is a shortage of ammunition for civilian purchase, due to the same supply chain issues that are driving other shortages.
Civilian is short in significant part because the military bought out the production. Some small specialty shops stopped all civilian production and went pure military. Now you can’t get some cartridges for love or money.
Like in the past, that means a reloader boom.
So with what will they fight this new war?
A military option against Iran? Anyone doing the math? If you don’t care about millions of human lives that could be lost in such a horrific conflict, how would that help our own economy?
I’m not sure that Israel’s Defense Minister is a credible source of information concerning U.S. Military plans.
I am sure that war with Iran would all but stop oil shipments from the Persian Gulf. The harm that would cause to our economy (and several others) would be horrific. No sane person would consider it. But Biden might.
actually the US exports more oil every day than it imports so it would be a simple matter for uncle sam to be self sufficient.
Yet we have imported $6 billion from Russia since the Russian invasion of Ukraine. WTF?
because chevron/exxon/shell are in charge of oil products in the US, not uncle sam
The “net exporter” and “energy independence” hype is just that: hype. And there’s nothing simple about it. Here, however, is a simple look at the issue:
Further, it’s important to understand that recent large increases in US production of oil and natural gas are largely due to the advent of fracked horizontal wells. Leaving aside the environmental issues, take a look at the depletion curves of those wells. Reality is far from the bonanza that most Americans have been led to believe.
u.s. can’t supply it’s needs & won’t last very long. saudi oil will be blockaded by Russia or perhaps they will just refuse to sell to “us”.
Err…PN….don’t forget about all that oil we’re gifting (oops, sorry, “loaning”) to Ukrainazia…
Gas prices at home (U.S.) hitting $10. And more.
But we have to protect our great ally, Israel. We are so close we don’t even want to investigate the attack of USS Liberty 1967.
Well said. I might add that Biden is not the brightest banana in the bunch…
A banana republic it is.
No, the only thing Joe excels out is grifting, ahhh extortion.
Grifting is a great word, it sounds like just what it is!
Only speculation, but it would appear that Israel is willing to attack Iran, on its own if need be, should the nuclear deal goes ahead. That would scupper the new agreement, create an even greater energy and economic crisis – another stepping stone to world war. The pattern is certainly there.
All of these.threats are.only.the start.of will.surely.start WW3.Be carefull.what you.want,you.may get it.Just.because
the.US.ecomomy.is tanking is no.reason.to.start a war with.countrys.that.mean.you.no harm
Israel considers Iran’s nuclear program to be an existential threat to Israel. This is exactly what I’m reading and hearing from israeli news. This has not happened since the first days of the Yom Kippur War. So they will act accordingly.
And any other state in the region that hasn’t either been ravaged by the US or bribed by the US.
There IS no Iran nuclear weapon program. This is all a show, but a dangerous one.
The things Israel actually cares about, it does not talk about. It handles those quickly and quietly.
I don’t think I’m comfortable taking the ayatollah’s word (or yours for that matter) in this regard
The IAEA has verified. Iran is a signatory to the NPT (signed in 1968, ratified in 1970). Israel isn’t, and never will be.
Awww, that hurts. Are you prepared to take the US intelligence agency’s summary?
Or are you only interested in Israel’s self serving BS stating Iran is six months away since 1990’s?
“As of April 2022, experts estimated that Iran’s breakout time was as little as two to three weeks, but U.S. intelligence also assessed that Tehran had not made the political decision to pursue production of nuclear weapons.”
Assuming this to be true, should Israel wait for them to make the decision? Iranian leaders repeatedly call for the destruction of Israel.
So, whose word would you/Israel take? Anyone’s? War if there is a deal. War if there isn’t a deal. At what point would war not be the answer for you/Israel? A failed state or a handpicked leader are the two options and always have been. Stop pretending that anything else is acceptable for you/Israel.
I am not privy to the intelligence israel has on Iranian nuclear plans. I also don’t know if or by how much israel can set their program back. Between Hezbollah’s 150,000 rockets and an Iranian response, an Israeli attack would unleash hell on Israel. They are not keen to do this and if they are considering it, it’s because they are very fearful of the alternative.
I know. Since 1992.
They will do s…. they don’t have the reach
Israel isn’t a threat to the Arab world, with nukes of its own? One man in Israel risked his livelihood and life to expose the nuclear arsenal of Israel. Mordecai Vanunu.G-d Bless him!
From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu
So, Odele, is THAT why IsraHell doesn’t want the oversight afforded by the JCPOA?
I feel compelled to add the word f*ck just to prove I’m not “ladylike” 😁
Oh, and it was I who downvoted you 😉
I don’t believe I’ve ever received an “upvote” on anti war.com
You have now. Happy?
Yes I am! Thank you Thomas
Well, darlin’, a little secret between you and me: you’re kind of in the minority here 😉
Whether it goes through or not, Israel will attack Iran.
War with Iran: It is the alternative just in case peace breaks out in Ukraine. Whereas (the promise of) improved relations with Iran are just the weaponization of a peace process to be used against Russia just in case the Ukraine war continues.
Nicely summed up!
Ah yes, keep the ball rolling. I hear the champagne corks a popping in the corporate offices of Ratheon, etc.
Attacking Iran will guarantee $200 oil and ignite the whole middle east.
Is that why they are doing it? Seems consistent.
So much to look forward to…. How does one hint anything to Israel about any plans?… “Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, we’re thinking about attacking Iran! Shhhh…”
Add another war lost to the US portfolio…!
Russia should begin arming Iran ASAP with nukes , it`s the only way for Iran to be secure , N.K has already proved that nukes are the only weapon that scares the yanks into not attacking them .
The excuse will be the US has to hit Iran because it has the conventional firepower to do the job, whereas if massa Israel has to do it they’ll have to use nukes. So it will be presented as the lesser of two evils. Nobody but Americans will buy it.
that was good thinking on your part there
I got the idea from Dick Cheney, who was on I think the Charlie Rose show and said the US had to bomb some country else Israel would have to do it and bear the diplomatic fallout, and it struck me that if I was for instance at a GM shareholder meeting and the CEO announced the company had to pursue some damaging policy else Ford would have to do it and bear the cost, there would be an awkward silence and confused looks and then I’m not sure what would happen but the CEO wouldn’t be CEO much past the end of the meeting, if that long. I’m not aware that anybody else in the US noticed how outlandish Cheney’s pronouncement was but anyway it’s not actually my rationale and I suspect I’m not demented enough to come up with it on my own but apparently it works, at least with Americans if you’re the government.
Looking forward to Iran mining the Straits of Hormuz!
Better get used to walking, fellow Amerikkkans…or better yet, get yourself a horse or two.
And antiship missiles in the mountain caves lining the whole tanker route down the Persian Gulf, mountains from which they can see those ships 50 miles away.
Mark, I LIKE it! 😉
Sure why not attack Iran. The US is on the verge of hostilities with China and is conducting military operations in Syria and Somalia. The US has depleted it’s own military equipment by sending it to Ukraine and starting a proxy war with Russia.
What is one more country to add to the list of countries America is alienating and attacking?
I am sure senile angry Joey Biden has no idea what day of the week it is, what planet he is on, what countries the US military is attacking, or what soverign nation the US Department of State is destabilizing.
Nicely articulated CT and my thoughts exactly.
Worse, I think Biden does know. He has been like this for 36 years in the Senate on the Foreign Relations Committee, and 8 years as VP.
What makes no sense is that people expect anything else from him than what he pushed for those 44 years.
If he doesn’t know it’s because he’s doesn’t remember he does know.
I really think when people post a thumbs down, it would be beneficial for them to articulate their purpose and reasoning (wbilet)… Otherwise it is just irritating…Ha, ha, ha…
Agree, Donna. They just want to hide in case someone points out their stupidity.
I did do that laced with irony. But I see people downvoting Don Julio all the time without explanation.
i blocked don julio a long time ago and had forgotten about him until just now
don julio is a yapping dog who deserves no explanation.
Israel always talks big. Reality is, any motrecwars would sink US economy, it is already onblife support. Raising interest rates is suicidal, as this inflation is not caused by overhead economy, but by supply chain chaos. The chaos is generated on purpose by sanctioning every country over something.
The US will fight Russia until the last Ukrainian is dead, and Israel will fight Iran until the last American is dead. Fair trade? Or insanity? Think oil prices are high now? You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
The AIPAC lobby, combined with the “Citizens United’s” unlimited spending capability in our national elections have paved the way for the commercialization of our democracy and the takeover of Congress by the Israel lobby. The US voter does not appear to be aware of the destructive impact of “Citizens United” on our democratic values and continues to reelect Senators and members of Congress who consistently vote to support Israel. Until there is a change in our Constitution that allows Term Limits in Congress (as well as a
much needed change in our Supreme Court) , we will always be subjected to the rule of the Pro Israel lobby and take our marching orders from Tel Aviv.
Bravo! Well said!
So we are now told about Biden War 2.0, first in Ukraine and now in Iran.
He ran on immediately rejoining the Iran Deal. He give us another neocon war on top of the world’s oil supply.
Of course, he also ran on intelligent diplomacy by the grown ups.
But we must vote for this anyway because the Other Guy is even worse?
And the icing on the sh*tcake is that a trash talking blowhard real estate developer would in fact probably be better. Maybe when Putin’s current term expires we can get him a green card, amend the constitution, and elect him president, though my personal preference is the Dolly/Oprah 2024 dream ticket. I would actually vote for that. They’d take people to the woodshed. The world would never be the same.
Dolly….LOVE IT! And she could serenade us as well 😀
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