According to a report from The New York Times citing unnamed senior US officials, intelligence provided by the US on Russian military units has helped Ukraine target and kill Russian generals.
Ukraine has claimed to have killed 12 Russian generals, but the number is not confirmed, and Kyiv has an interest in exaggerating its success on the battlefield, and the officials wouldn’t specify how many Russian officers were killed as a result of the assistance. But either way, the claim by US officials that they are helping kill Russian generals is a major provocation toward Moscow.
Like other US assistance to Ukraine, the claim raises questions about at what point Russia will consider the US to be a co-belligerent in the war. The officials said that the targeting of Russian generals is part of a Biden administration effort to share real-time targeting intelligence with Ukraine.
The officials said that the US is focusing on sharing intelligence on the location of Russia’s mobile military headquarters. They said the US assistance combined with Ukraine’s own intelligence allows Ukrainian forces to target Russian officers.
The US has expanded intelligence sharing with Ukraine since Russia invaded, but there are still limitations. The officials said that the US is prohibited from sharing intelligence on the most senior Russian leaders.
Gen. Valery Gerasimov, Russia’s highest-ranking uniformed officer, reportedly visited the frontlines of Russia’s war in Ukraine this week. The officials said that the US didn’t share information with Ukraine to aid in a strike that hit the area of eastern Ukraine Gerasimov reportedly visited.
Last month, The Wall Street Journal reported that the US was still refraining from providing Ukraine from launching strikes inside Russian territory, although Western officials have been publicly encouraging Kyiv to launch such attacks. Britain’s armed forces minister said it was “completely legitimate” for Ukraine to attack Russian territory, adding that it was “not necessarily a problem” if the attacks were carried out using weapons London provided to Kyiv.
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Act of War!
And this makes US General Officers a legitimate target. In other words a reckless escalation.
If he thinks this will get him his library……………
Extremely provocative, given the NYT’s close ties with the Pentagon
The best respinse to this jyvenile bravging is — ignore it.
There was ine high ranking officer killed, I do not remember if it was general. Russian military publishes all losses. It is really wrong for US to cut off TASS, the official news agency. Now, we have no Russian data any more.
It is essentisl for Ukraine to build up morale. But even reports from Western sources from the friont describe the difficulties Ukraune is facing. Soldiers have not been rotated, many soldiers are in the foorties or fifties, while commander is someone who was just sbout to graduate from military academy. They had to walk miles befotlre reaching trannsport, meaning that personnal carrerrs were not available. They are withdrawing.
The constant bsrrsge of questionable information about the stateo of Russian military is rather transparent. Many people are likely to fall for it _ this is an old cannard.
What has changed is the following. Russia took control of Azov Sea from its own bordet to Crimea, and expanded the Crimean region all tgevway to Dnyeper rruver and beyond. Kherson region is significant, as Russia has deblocked water supplies to Crimea.
In order to accomplish this fast — Russia linned down Ukrainian forces around Kyev. At present, ONLY Odessa port is the piece of Black Sea Ukraine has.
In Phase Ii, Russia has obliged. West was hoping for a long war to bleed Russia. In fact, Russia is using long war to deplete Ukrainian military. The most ruthless are Nazi units, but they put much of its egges into Mariupol basket. They are concentrated in Kharkov, Dnepro. Odessa. As these ard majority Russian or pro-Russian
Ukrainians. Meaning that Kyev will soon have to make decision on using them elsewhere. Russia is taking its time to feel them out, push and probe their weakesses,
If they choose to pull those stringer units from cities to help the front, Russia can move quickly to take advantage of the weskened defenses.
In fact, US has upped the ante with the declared goal if weakening Russia’s military. The ONLY reason for changing the goal was Russia’s deliberate move into “long war”.
So now, devradiung military is the goal — no longer keeping Russia in for long war.
Unless US can raise a mercenary army of imperial drines, how are soldiers to be found to use all those new weapons.
And while the morale is string in Nazi Galucia, it is non-existent anywhere else.
Remember the outrage over the claim the Russians were paying the Taliban to kill US soldiers.?
…at the time various US pollies cited it as a casus belli…Hypocrisy is not in the US lexicon.
Its a good thing Russia ran out of missiles a month ago.
In the Donbass they are fighting for the Russian world which includes Ukraine (NovoRussia). Once i understood this geopolitical perspective Moscows position is completely understandable.
In the Donbass they are bleeding out NATO weapons, troops and money. It will go on for several more months until the Western governments are exhausted. Keep in mind that Moscow has only allocated 10% of its contract army, the 90% is waiting for NATO to do something stupid.
Example: Poland has just sent 200 tanks to Ukraine. In 60 days Moscow has destroyed nearly 3000 tanks. So going forward NATO needs to supply 50 tanks/day. Each tank cost is approx 5 million, ie 300 million US$ per day just in tanks alone. The math says it all.
In the Ashes of the war a united Eastern block is forming, very formidable and battle hardened. If i was the EU i would PANIC.
I explain to people Russia has destroyed a few decades worth of NATO gear in two months and continues to destroy or capture that gear hundreds of times faster than it can be replaced.
Ukraine is also almost out of troops. The general mobilization is scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point.
Russian will win by attrition if it chooses.
Austin came out the other day and admitted that our stocks of weapons is diminished due to giving Ukraine NAZIs stuff. So, taxpayers, pay up, weapons up. lend-lease up, defcon up.
Looking on the internet for iodine, I find it to be months to get any.
Excellent calculations, thank You.
Yes, I do remember the outrage over the COMPLETELY FALSE claim that the Russians were paying the Taliban to kill US soldiers.
As this dreadful war drags on, all involved seem to be becoming more and more devoid of decency and humanity and just lost in blood lust and a senseless killing spree. Chalk up one more honourles crazy war that should have been avoided by all involved. This goes for all the instigators and supporters too, going back to the coup of 2014 when the U.S. overthrew the elected government of Ukraine and installed its puppet who attacked, divided and disenfranchised those in the East and the Russian speakers, drawing in the Russians to protect their people. And to keep NATO nukes from being installed on their border. It was too many dangers for Russia to ignore. Add Doltenburg’s intransigence and you have a sure fire formula for an ugly war. Congratulations to the Americans and all the others in NATO who made this possible. Special mention deserved for Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton, Victoria Nuland the foreign instigators who made this crime a reality along with The National Endowment for Democracy who’s five billion dollars provided the funding to depose Ukraine’s elected president for the American plotters.
Last December, Joe had a golden opportunity to be a statesman, cement peace, solidify success this November. He is failing on many issues: climate, civil rights (version of Ministry of Truth), and more. I did not vote for this.
Not all involved are becoming more and more devoid of decency and humanity. Far from it in fact.
If Russia lashed out in Ukraine or used “tactics” the US army used in Raqqa, just to give one example, – at least half of Ukraine’s population would’ve been well and truly dead by now. Regardless of the main stream media’s continuous strictly one sided coverage of the Ukrainian conflict – the Russian Army is bending over backwards to avoid civilian casualties. In contrast – the ever so BRAVE Ukrainian heroes are clearly using civilians as human shields AND monstrously hypocritical bargaining tools(!) ALL the bloomin time.
“Kyiv has an interest in exaggerating its success on the battlefield”
And so does Moscow.
and so does NATO and so does the boss of NATO
CIA admitted they made up stuff about this “special military operation” so this is just made up more stuff. Washington knows Umr6aine has lost but doing all it can to keep conflict going but doing more harm to US than Russia.
Even if these numbers are exaggerated by 50%, they are still very bad news for Moscow considering how they are fighting a much smaller military right on their border: https://twitter.com/Copernicus2013/status/1522173110086217728/photo/1
Sure. All by their lonesome.
Doesn’t matter; these losses are losses for Moscow at the end of the day.
You made the point of a “much smaller military” otherwise I don’t reply.
I seriously doubt that either the US or Ukraine could track the movements of a Russian General closely enough to order a strike in real time, or confirm an assassination attempt was successful after the fact without having an actual spy in his inner circle. These people are not amateurs.
I didn’t even know generals were out on the battlefield anymore.
U.S. Generals aren’t out on the battlefields anymore. Russian Generals lead their troops.
And yet a surprising number of them are dead. Guess where the HQ is, is an old game In order for a general to control his troops he needs to receive information and send orders both of those activities inevitably leave traces.
These people only believe Russian sources.
I suppose that the next thing you’ll say is that you yourself are entirely objective.
I have no real military expertise. So I don’t know how many a “surprising number” would be in this situation.
Well I think zero US or NATO generals were killed in combat the last 20 years. 40 US generals were killed during WW2 which was a bigger longer conflict
The Russian troops dont use secured communications plus they are not well disciplined and use phones, to include generals. It’s very easy to track their general location if well trained communication trackers are doing their job.
Edit: forgot to mention the most important piece to this which is, the Ukrainian network. Ukrainians living in occupied territory constantly relays comms on Russian positions to each other by cellphones. They are the eyes and ears for the UA army.
@disqus_AZFNUPuumK:disqus: hey, sorry if I hurt your feelings. Next time I’ll say something nice about Putin.
If Russia declares war on 9 May you do not want to be an American General.
The US is treading on dangerous territory.
Since obama is controlling the Biden government just let him step forward and take the blame for the war.
Man, you are obsessed with Obama.
His decisions made this possible. His decisions made Libya what it is today. His decisions gave us Romney Care. His decisions did squat for the battle against climate change. His decisions bailed out Wall Street in 2008-2009, leaving homeowners dangling in the winds. One slick salesman, winning an award for his campaign. A sales and ad award. Hope and Change! WooHoo!!!
Now you’re just telling me why he was a lousy president which is something I already knew. And yes Obama did make this possible but he’s been gone for 6 years and the escalation has been ongoing during those 6 years. His successor had this to say:
Also, it was me that got Ukraine the very effective anti-tank busters (Javelins) when the previous Administration was sending blankets. Let History so note!” Trump bragged.
“I hope everyone is able to remember that it was me, as President of the United States, that got delinquent NATO members to start paying their dues, which amounted to hundreds of billions of dollars,” Trump wrote in a statement released Monday. “There would be no NATO if I didn’t act strongly and swiftly.”
Now it’s on Biden.
So who do you think is running the country from his office down the street from the White House?
Why do you think Obama is needed? Biden was a warmonger when Obama was a child. If Obama got droned tomorrow, do you think anything would change? Even in Biden’s state, he just needs a teleprompter, and doesn’t need coaxing from a pipsqueak like Obama.
You are very foolish if you think obama is not telling Joe Biden how to run the country. Joe Biden’s press secretary admitted that this is the case on several occasions when asked by the White House press people. She said, “Joe Biden consults with obama every day by phone or in person.”
And what would be different if Obama wasn’t telling Biden how to run the country? Would Biden be off script? No Ukraine? No billions in aid? No belligerence towards China? JCPOA signed? Obama didn’t run the country when HE was president.
No he ran it into the ground.
No more than what he followed or who followed him.
Leaking classified military information during a war is treason. The staff of the NYT should be imprisoned like Julian Assange.
What war, USA is not at war. We are giving our new found Ukrainian friends some weapons and some training and now and again make a friendly phone call with a guess as to where the Russian HQ is now.
Did I say “war”? I meant “Special Military Operation”. Like I wrote my local paper, we can’t very well expect other nations to respect our ridiculous euphemisms for war if we don’t respect theirs. Haven’t heard back from them.
Good point, or kinetic operations.
My personal favorite is the “humanitarian assault” coined on Somalia. Positively Pythonesque.
Payback. There is always payback. So what form will it take for assassinating Russian generals by proxy?
They do it to Iranians, but can they do the same to Russians without paying a price?
Perhaps they will start trying to kill Westerners visiting Ukraine.
Or perhaps they will do what they’ve done before, assassinations of their own on Western territory.
It is reasonably certain they’ll do something. It is KGB style, and they are led by a KGB Colonel.
Is that what CIA Director Bush did when he was Pres of the US?
Somehow, members of the CIA are never considered anywhere near as evil as those of the KGB, so it always irks me when it is mentioned that Putin was with the KGB. An obvious comment meant to vilify him.
But members of the CIA are as evil as members of the KGB and vice versa. And Putin should be vilified for being part of that nasty organization just as Bush 1 should be vilified for being part of the monstrous CIA. The fact that our MSM refuses to acknowledge that doesn’t make it less true.
Under the Soviet Union, did Putin even have a choice as to be a member of the KGB? Couldn’t he have been conscripted into the KGB just as Pope Benedict was conscripted into the Nazi Youth?
It’s just propaganda vocabulary … so Russian rich are “oligarchs”, and Musk, Gates and the hedge fund guys are ” successful businessmen “.
Murder, Inc., with an assist from the FBI. Yesterday, I read that last year the FBI did runs on 3.4 million citizen’s phones and other devices, without warrants. Did Orwell come from the future with his ideas for his novel?
You obviously know very little about the CIA versus KGB.
Do your own homework.
I stand by what I said. If you want to prove me wrong, go ahead.
I have no intention of wasting my time on those who are unable and unwilling to google or have a mind of their own.
You questioned what I said without explaining why you question what I said and then you want me to prove what I said? I have no clue what you meant but it’s on me to figure it out and prove YOU wrong? Got it.
Lots of sad Russian oligarchs killing themselves and their families in the last weeks. Seems pretty evil to me.
I am not surprised we are helping in this way, I am surprised that we are talking about it.
S-500 will start targeting their fancy satellites.
Killing people is wrong, whether they are Ukrainian or Russian, or anyone else. Would love to see these people in support of the war try to reconcile the sanctity of life with wanton support to murdering people, as long as they are Russians.
Why is this news? When they started killing generals with such regularity I knew us giving Ukraine real time Intel on movements of senior officers. I have no intel background and been a civilian all my life but this is just basic 2+2
The first rule of intelligence sharing is, we don’t talk about intelligence sharing.
Sounds a lot cooler when u use the words “fight club”😎
Providing intelligence to kill generals. Providing intelligence for military attacks. Providing weapons/economic aid to the tune of $40 billion, thus far. Sanctions. Threatening those that won’t play along. Sending high ranking morons to pledge support. But not a co-belligerent in this war. It wouldn’t be happening otherwise but never mind.
Ooops!, I didn’t read far enough and left out the US training Ukrainian forces.
The red line is US troops shooting Russian troops. Maybe we will send in some blackwater boys.
Red lines for war and whether we are directly involved are two different things. We are in up to our eyeballs.
Does the U.S. have any Generals on the ground in Syria?
Ukrainian losses in total, since the beginning of the Russian special military operation,
726 unmanned aerial vehicles,
288 anti-aircraft missile systems,
2,834 tanks and other armored combat vehicles,
325 multiple rocket launchers,
1,306 field artillery and mortar guns,
2,646 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.
As James Michener said of war, “build, build, build, destroy, destroy, destroy.”
According to what source?
According to a BRIEFING OF RUSSIAN MOD ON MORNING OF MAY 5, 2022. They give an almost daily brief on the war.
In other words, a source that’s about as reliable as Volodomyr Zelensky, Joe Biden, or the daily horoscope in my local paper.
I have found the Russian Russian briefings to be quite accurate. The Ghost of Kiev and all the other nonsense is your source of reliable info?
I don’t pretend to have a source of reliable info. Nor is “they’re telling me the version of things I prefer” a measure of reliability.
Thats a really good place to be :). I compare official briefings from Russia and Ukraine. On the whole i find the Russian reports to be more accurate with reality on the ground. But you of course are right they both will be distorted to some degree.
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