A senior Pentagon official told reporters on Friday that the US does not believe there is a threat of Russia using nuclear weapons.
“We continue to monitor their nuclear capabilities every day the best we can and we do not assess that there is a threat of the use of nuclear weapons and no threat to NATO territory,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Earlier this week, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that NATO was engaged in a proxy against Russia by pouring weapons into Ukraine and warned of the danger of nuclear war. “The danger is serious, real, and we must not underestimate it,” he said.
While Lavrov’s warning was focused on the danger of the US and NATO pouring weapons into Ukraine, US officials took it as a threat. “Rattling of sabers and dangerous rhetoric is clearly unhelpful and something that we won’t engage in,” Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said in response.
“Any bluster about the possible use of nuclear weapons is dangerous and unhelpful,” Austin said. “Nobody wants to see a nuclear war, and nobody can win that.”
It’s widely believed that a direct conflict between the US and Russia would quickly turn nuclear, but hawks in Washington don’t appear to be factoring in the risk while pushing for more US intervention in Ukraine.
Russia won’t use nuclear weapons as long as they know they can win without them.
I can certainly appreciate logic like that…
They certainly can win without them, plus they want as much of the areas of Ukraine they intend to keep (think shore of Black Sea and Azov Sea) intact as possible. What I worry about is NATO using tactical nukes, then we are off to the races.
But don’t worry, I’ve read that the real radiation threats are from nuclear power stations that go full Chernobal; they just keep producing radiation until they are shut down. Nuke warheads are shut down upon use so you only get one shot of radiation.😊
Fukushima MOX fuel and reactor kompounds love you long-long time.
I saw foot age of a team that descended on Chernobyl to inspect it. One black case has the word FLIR stenciled on it in 5 inch letters, white on black.
Also- latest assessment is still sketchy but it is sounding like the actual tested radiation is Less than remote sensors reported?!
Gotta watch those EE units and malware!
Someone could have tweaked the instruments and reset them.
The fella is not a fan of the Union of Atomic Scientists, I guess. They seem to be setting the clock at pretty close to my midnight these days.
I expect he has access to lots and lots of information.
Lots of (mis)information
Well they called the invasion pretty accurately.
Sure. And I could predict that dog was going to bite me if I kept kicking it.
Your love for Putin is obvious.
It must have been all the half-nude pics of Putin that started the romance 🙂
It would be one thing if I had ever praised Putin, but I haven’t. So, your comment is just a nonsensical standard retort because you can’t refute what I said. This is about Russia, not Putin.
Sure. One of his his predecessors informed us that there were WMD in Iraq. The same bunch said Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and more were going to be successful interventions that cost nothing. Model democracies were going to result. Civilian casualties were going to be minimal…
Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day. Austin and company are the intelligence equivalent of a stopped clock.
That go round there was a ton of political interference in the intelligence process ( Dick Cheney ) and it points out the problems with political interference in intelligence gathering, you lose objectivity and figure out that the only thing to discover is what the boss wants you to conclude. Such as “we will be welcomed as liberators” So how is this relevant? Well there was that funny memo allegedly from high up in the FSB where the writer complained that nobody thought he ( Pootie) would actually do it.
Do you think ‘Pootie’ is going to send flowers to Finland?
I doubt he will do a darn thing.
Who ever this nut who speaks on condition of anonymity is simply conceding that Russia will win. If there is any possibility of Russia losing a conventional fight, certain that nukes will be falling on NY, DC, LA and other metros because Russia can not afford to lose . It is the question of existence .
NY,DC, LA are democratic strongholds. CA and NY would go red, dems would never let that happen, would they?
Democrat Strong holds? What you mean. There is no Democratic or Republican strongholds. America, there is only one strong hold. Neocons.David Horowitzes, Robert Mercers, Les Wexners,Chuck Schumers, Adam Schiffs, Victoria Newlands. Add to the list Sullivan, Blinken etc.They own and control America.Democrats or Republicans have nothing to do with America. So also the American people.They are simply allowed to watch, not think, what is going on in America and suffer the consequences under the illusive “freedom and democracy”
The Putin experts all know about his cornered rat experience he apparently conveyed as a personal life
lesson teaching aid.
Then,… that means they want to give him the same experience as if he will lunge irrationally.
It fits the dog waging about him being isolated, angry, etc. to encourage a coup.
These analyst freaks need better writers.
S-500’s exceed the S-400’s and they can intercept their own Hypersonics. Something we cannot do let along track and target one.
Don’t forget Hitler was defeated in the East not in the West.
But West aimed to win peace.
This is why Rusdia was let to bleed, slugging though Hitler’s vasal territory, Finland, Estonia, Lithuania. Then Hitler’s own Belarus front fortified by Polish soldiers, and Ukrainian front fortified by Banderistas.
And then, Russia having made enemies among those Hitler supporting peoples. had to go on Berlin, where desparate blick by block fights pitched exausted Soviet Army against die hard Nazis orepared to die
as well as boys with weapons.
While Western partners kept their hands
clean. In the West, allies did not have to slug over Hitler supportinng populations. Mostly Hitler’s oown divislons.
Russia has taken away few lessons. One is to mind its own business, until/unless seriously provoked. Second, never ever allow war to be flught in its own territory.
Until Ukraine, former part of Russia, of and on, since the founding of Russian state, Kiev Rus, that saw Russia united within a century from Baltic to Black Sea.
With lessons in mind, Ukraine is an ideal territory. It has Russian population majorty in a number of regions. It has many Christian Orthodox and Russian speaking Ukrainians in its side. After nearly eight years of living under Lviv dominated rule, they know precisely where they stand.
There may be the danger of escallation with US, and contemplating nuclear use, should sober anyone up, This is precisely why Lavrov has to say it — repeatedly. War party is giddy with the smell of war and money.that it lost all common sense.
Having saud that, there is no way whatsoevet a chance Russia will use anything nuclear on Ukrainian soil.
There is no chance Russia will get close to losing in Ukraine. It is picking its battles. It already caltured two most vital strategic regions — while attention was on Kiev. The entire Azov Sea coast is under Russian control, a belt of over two hundred miles, including Mariupol.
The stories keep on coming about Mariupol, nust to keep it in the news. Really how much longer can they keep up lies abojt bombing that is not happening, people are coming back to town not leaving, health care services restarted, as the news from
Kuev is about health crisis in the city.
But after UN chief got a clear answer from Moscow. — that people can leave Azovstal plant from the plant anytime they want.
Azov fighters are not entitled to UN escort.
As soon as Azov commander allows civilians to leave — the better.
The stories about poor Rusdian weapons, poor morale, poor performance — are meant for Western public consumption.
If the conflict expands it will not necessarily be nuclear. Modern Ruussian weaponry does not require nuclear warheads for efficacy.
The purpose of portraying Russia as an easy target has simple purpose — to make Western public be more open to challenging Russia.
How interesting that Russia invades Ukraine to take their land under the pretext of Ukraine having Neo Nazis but it is Russia the one behaving like the very Nazis they claim to be against. They war may go long but Russia has already lost it no matter how much land they take.
Russia doesn’t want “their land”. Ukrainazia is the poorest nation in the EU and please explain to me why the Russians would wish to be saddled with it.
Russia wants independence for Donbas and to retain Crimea (whose population overwhelmingly voted in favor of being annexed by Russia.)
Please explain to me why Russia would sit by and allow the Ukrainazis to continue to murder the Russian ethics of eastern Ukrainazia, to the tune of 12000 to 14000 individuals.
The most tragic part of this war is that Zelensky WAS willing to negotiate a peace treaty…but his Amerikkkan handlers would/will not allow it.
It makes me sad beyond belief to see the refugees evacuating, especially the ones carrying their beloved cats and dogs.
This did NOT HAVE TO BE! But Amerikkka will not allow negotiations to stop the madness!
“Ukrainazia is the poorest nation in the EU”
Maybe it would be if it was in the EU. But it isn’t in the EU.
My bad Thomas.
Let’s go with Europe then.
🙂
Nope, that honour belongs to Kosovo.
They are members of both EU and NATO in all but name. Actions of the EU and NATO back up this claim.
They don’t want them either.
How interesting that you leave out Russia’s main grievances. Never mind those neo-Nazis were put in power by the superpower who has been surrounding, and provoking, Russia since the cold war SUPPOSEDLY ended.
Where are the Neo Nazis? Really? Where? I’ve been in Ukraine, Russia, and Belarus many times and never met one. I know i almost got beaten up in Siberia because they thought i was Ukrainian. Im not.
I know this though, if there is anything close to look Nazi, it was in Russia where i sensed it.
Oh I left Ukraine wanting to join NATO? Sorry. Is that a reason to invade Ukraine? GTFOH. Putin should invade Finland and Sweden next. You need to lay off that Putin’s cool aid
Rigfht now those neo-Nazis are holed up in the Mariupol steel plant, using civilian human shields, and hoping to escape in the confusion.
Putin is determined to kill them all, and he still might.
The real Nazis are the ones attacking Maryupol.
Right, there was no coup. All made up. And NATO hasn’t been encroaching Russia since the cold war ended. And the US would be fine if this same scenario were taking place on its borders. It’s just me and my love for Putin. But that’s your go to response because you have nothing else. So no, you GTFOH and STFU if you just want to ignore the facts.
And by the way, even CNN admits there are Nazi’s in Ukraine.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/29/europe/ukraine-azov-movement-far-right-intl-cmd/index.html
I’m pretty sure that wars r u.s. checks under his bed each night, just to make sure there aren’t any nazis there. You can never be too careful… 🙂
“Rattling of sabers and dangerous rhetoric is clearly unhelpful and something that we won’t engage in,” Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said in response.
I mean, seriously? Other than the US being peerless when it comes to saber rattling and dangerous rhetoric? It’s like bitching about other countries illegal invasions.
Russia’s New Offensive Is Already Behind Schedule U.S. Says
A senior U.S. defense official told reporters today that the Russian military’s reinvigorated offensives in parts of eastern and southern Ukraine are not progressing as planned two weeks after they began. The U.S. military believes that Russia’s forces in Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region, in particular, are facing a “longer slog” that could devolve into an intense “knife fight” on the ground.
Russian forces are “at least several days behind where they wanted to be” in the Donbas, and have been unable to link their main lines of effort in eastern and southern Ukraine together as planned.
Russian forces have likewise been unable to fully fix and encircle various Ukrainian positions in the Donbas and the advances they have made have been “plodding and uneven,” according to the senior U.S. defense official. Separate reports regarding the fighting in the past few days have indicated that Ukrainian units are holding their ground in some areas and even counterattacking in others, including in a push that led them to recapture Ruska Lovova, a village along a key roadway north of Kharkiv.
The U.S. military expects to send at least a dozen individual shipments to the region via air, including aircraft loaded with 155mm howitzer ammunition and secretive Phoenix Ghost suicide drones, in the next 24 hours alone. This is on top of 20 military aid deliveries just in the past day or so.
Russia’s SMO started out poorly but they are learning. They seem to be on the fourth iteration of operation Z planning.
Plan A: Absolutely Naive, went down in flames. Literally for many Russian tanks and aircraft.
Plan B: Fight Better, saw the Russians pulling back from reckless unsupported armoured charges, but still sending insufficient forces against hardened targets.
Plan C: Fight Conventionally, which for Russia meant throwing endless bodies and materiale at an opponent till Russia wins by attrition, fizzled. Putin wisely placed a strict ceiling on Op Z resources, just as he did in Syria.
Plan D: Decide Priorities. Russia retreated in defeat from the northern Ukraine oblasts to focus on the east and south.
Somehow we are to believe Russia knows nothing about shock and awe air power, combined arms, suppression and destruction of enemy air defenses?
They are playing hot war with NATO and Ukraine; the real war is the economic war and diplomatic war for world opinion.
What the f*ck did that have to do with my comment, numbnuts? Does that mean the US isn’t peerless when it comes to saber rattling and dangerous rhetoric?
Comrade Numbnuts, I’m just f*cking with you.
More originality. Find new employment.
I’m thinking that moving to the Southern Hemisphere might be a strategically good move.
The Idiots in D.C. are like Pharaoh. Their hearts have been hardened.
The Finnish drone industry is the sole provider of over one-hundred of proptietary militerized drones sold to policing agencies in Washington State alone. One was used locally in a man hunt at night. When they found him it was said that it sounded like a shooting gallery. In the dark: Drones 1, Humans 0. (BTW, these things have self-aware learning AI for decision making: it learns your moves and anticipates where you are going. It can put a crosshair on you. Local Remote operators can be given feedback of good ‘lethal kill windows’ in which to order a kill command to execute or go to full auto-kill with the AI. They have targeting lasers. Resistance is futile. Integrate this with satellite networking and all you need on the ground are battery/ blade technicians and lens cleaners with a smartphone to monitor commands / data with.)
In the early years of DIY ‘PIC’- like customizable microprocessors, one could program their own drone from the ground up. Much was open source. All the sexy features -the bells and whistles and sexy smarter fat features were pinched by some well financed poachers who turned it into a militarized export to us: a tax haxen. Finland makes Reconnaissance Drones for sale, We make the night vision: FLIR. I am certain that it is not readily available to just anyone with money. Ukraine got theirs ‘donated’ (?) from the USA private donors somehow and they got there via Canada. This is an investors war: a privatized war.
Ukraine Needs trained operators to run them. WHO provided our network news groups w/Arial drone footage approaching and over the Mariupal Steel Workz?
Ham’s were among the first large technical group involved in search and rescue volunteer services to use drones for situational Arial Reconnaissance HERE as Owner drone operators. So did some remote control flyers and law enforcement chiefs. From that sprung industry Over There that was financed from Over Here: The Finnish Drones were able to gimbel a very sensative miniaturized Infra Red camera but The consumer Ham-grade had limits and security issues. A new solution is to import the Drone, sell it to agencies only and apply for a FLIR Camera that only Qualified Agencies and its employees can use and access. These are very affordable weapons. The Hams are out of the picture altogether now as Drone operators and these things have been seen in practice at night, sometimes flying in a formation making a sweep or visiting rural properties. Policing agencies have full time drone operators.
A doughnut says our boy overthere that died for a private contractor was fully trained in all things of Drone Recon and Attack.
We sent 700 new suicide drones and they likely can be controlled from a drone platform of various abilities. It’s likely not totally idiot proof to run, it takes a team and that is a team of drone operators with specific team tasks with an oversight director of some authority: The Drone Captain. Was that guy a Spaz Farce guy?
Drone footage over the Steel Plant in Mariupal was provided by Who and with What? No way are the Azov Battalion going to authorize a different drone flight over the plant or near it. They control the horizontal and the vertical imagery we get to see. Network News fly-over feeds were from a militerized patroller drone platform; the eyes and ears platform the 700 kamikaze drones are supposed to get orders from Over Here. Nothing new to Russia, “not even a fly” will fly over now according to Putin. Drone Patrollers need not be used all the time especially if integrated with a satellite Intel team at a Spaz Farce command group: They are platforms smart military offensives are coordinated from at the H.Q. level.
Privatized War, an investor’s war, an insider’s war.
What could go wrong?
Another Putin lover.
A NAZI HATER sonny boy.
More like Ukranian hater.
Not so,
Poland is where the Huns fled and Breivik types are all over Funland.
not so.
Only Uki Nazis like those on Kiev.
Time to decapitate the head.
Only the reb Nazi Ukis.
Anywhere they are embedded in politics gets pounded.
Gorka is proof they are here and in numbers so we get pounded.
Tembatsu!
Hating NAZIS is not a type of Ukrainian racism.
Hating NAZIS IS acceptable racism.
Killing them is business.
Russia is in Business of killing NAZIS.
Up until now they offered terms, the Railroads were left intact for evacuations until they were used as troop transports and equipment ferries.
Time to act now.
Kiev needs to Denounce Nazism and those are the terms for life.
Looks like no lives will need an agrarian infrastructure to grow and harvest wheat because the Railroads were humanitarian corridors, not the war highways they became.
Not both.
Ukraine chose poorly
Evacuate Kiev.
There are way more Neo Nazis in Russia than Ukraine. Russia doesn’t care about a handful of neo nazis in Ukraine. They only use that as excuse to take their port cities corridor.
So true, Israel reacted furiously on Lavrov’s made up stories.
Another Finish Nazi Appolgist
Yup and Proud NAZI HATER
of a Proud longtime Fascist Fighting Family
Nazis are always in season
That one is most likely a paid one, too.
what kind of an idiot would use a nuclear weapon against defenseless peoples and then think that he would not forever be considered to be the historical bad guy.
oh wait; uncle sam has already done that several times.
Is this the same Pentagon that didn’t see the Afghanistan debacle until we were watching folks fall off of planes?
The DoD has gotten everything else wrong about Ukraine, and has lost every war it has fought for the last 20 years. So when they say “no problem” I see it only more likely to be a problem, because the fools are not paying attention, lost in their make believe world (again).
Concisely put. And you’re probably very accurate concerning your perception of a problem. Where would we be without them (problems)…
All that we have to do is look at the DODs long and distinguished history and we will find a multitude of problems…
But that is what they get paid for, making problems, in any way they can.
They make the Problems (wars), and people like me, protest the problems (wars) and it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference, I just sleep a little better at night, knowing that even though, the problem is still there, I assuaged my conscience by kicking up a small opposition to their efforts…
Such is life…
But one of these days, they are going to utilize their ‘ultimate’ weapons and when they do that, I’m gonna be pissed off at somebody and I will do it very loudly, until my a– gets nuked!
Well it looks like Russia must show a small demonstration.
An EMP show in Quam…?!
Russia Has Killed Twice as Many in Mariupol Than Nazi Germany Did: Mayor
As Russia’s war of aggression in Ukraine sets to enter its 11th week, Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boychenko said the death toll among its civilians has already doubled the amount caused by German Nazis over a two-year stretch during World War II.
Boychenko didn’t mince words Saturday in his claims. Boychenko posted to his Telegram channel.
“In two years, the Nazis killed 10,000 civilians in Mariupol. And the Russian occupiers in two months – more than 20 thousand Mariupol. More than 40,000 people were forcibly deported,” Boychenko stated. “This is one of the worst genocides of civilians in modern history. The Russian army is purposefully and ruthlessly destroying our city and its inhabitants.”
Boychenko used words like “racists” to describe the worst his city’s residents have ever seen, saying the Russians “have already illegallydeported as many Mariupol residents as Hitler’s troops during the years of occupation.”
“Racism is the fascism of the 21st century,” Boychenko wrote. “No doubts or illusions. Mankind has paid a high price for the victory over fascism in the last century. If we do not unite today and do not stop this evil, the price this time may be much higher.”
Oh well then, that’s that, I guess. A Ukranian official says the Russians did X, Y and Z, uses So and So words to describe them, and pulls Such and Such numbers out of his nether region, and that’s the end of it! It must be true.
Never mind that Ukrainian officials have lied about every single thing, from before Day One. Nope, he said it, and so it must be the case!
In reality, the actual Nazis are hiding behind civilian hostages in Mariupol, and have been for some time. You can’t even call them human shields any more; they are just flat out hostages. And these Big Mouth fascists don’t even have the guts to go out in a blaze of glory, but instead endlessly beg Zelensky, the US, NATO, unnamed “world leaders,” the Pope, their Fairy Godmother, whoever, to come and pull a Dunkirk for their benefit, and deliver their sorry asses to a “third country.” How about you just let the civilians go, and surrender, already, instead? Or, again, let them go, and then try to shoot your way out, since you are so Big and Bad?!
Funny how anonymous sources in the Pentagon are the last voices of sanity in the whole US and NATO bloviation sphere. Russia to use chemical weapons? Um, no says the Pentagon, when the higher ups raised the spectre. Alleged Russian atrocity du jour? Taken as fact as soon as alleged, by the higher ups. The Pentagon? “We have no evidence” as to who did it. “Unprecedented civilian casualties” say the USA and NATO and Toady Zelensky. “Not really,” say unnamed Pentagon analyst. And now the same with nukes. The point isn’t that Russia wouldn’t use nukes if it was itself under invasion, but that it won’t use them in Ukraine. Russia, all the hysterical screaming to the contrary notwithstanding, some of which we see mindlessly repeated even here, on this board, in this comment thread, has gone well out of its way to avoid civilian casualties, despite the cowardly use of civilians as human shields by the Ukranian military, especially its neo Nazi paramilitary component. Russia has no intention to use chemical weapons, bio weapons, nuclear weapons, or any other form of WMD. Again, Russia is minimizing civilian harm from conventional weapons, much less plotting to use WMD.
“Russia, all the hysterical screaming to the contrary notwithstanding, some of which we see mindlessly repeated even here, on this board, in this comment thread, has gone well out of its way to avoid civilian casualties, despite the cowardly use of civilians as human shields by the Ukranian military”
Seriously, do you even believe the drivel that you write?
My guess is that you have had two bottles of stolichnaya and became very nostalgic, missing the days when Russia was part of the USSR and was an actual super power.
Ahh, since this is an antiwar site you should advocate for the aggressor to withdraw its forces, not to be a mouthpiece and amplifier for pro war Kremlin propaganda.
UN puts verified civilian deaths at 3,000.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2022/04/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-29-april-2022
That speaks for itself.
You only read the headline, Einstein.
From OHCHR’s homepage:
Most of the civilian casualties recorded were caused by the use of
explosive weapons with a wide impact area, including shelling from heavy
artillery and multiple launch rocket systems, and missile and air
strikes.
OHCHR believes that the actual figures are considerably higher, as
the receipt of information from some locations where intense hostilities
have been going on has been delayed and many reports are still pending
corroboration. This concerns, for example, Mariupol and Volnovakha
(Donetsk region), Izium (Kharkiv region), Popasna (Luhansk region), and
Irpin (Kyiv region), where there are allegations of numerous civilian
casualties. These figures are being further corroborated and are not
included in the above statistics.
No. I read it. And wasn’t impressed.
First off, Anyone can “believe” anything.; that doesn’t make it true. Also, that’s a weasel word. If it turns out not to be true, well, the UN never said it was, only that it “believed” that it was. And we know that Ukraine is pushing for higher estimates, and the UN doesn’t want to just rule that out. The very quote you provide makes it clear that the supposedly “considerably” higher totals are based on “allegations.” IE Ukrianian allegations. The allegations of proven, repeated liars. Then, of course, “considerable” is a weasel word too. What’s “considerably higher?” Half again as much? Twice as much? More? Less? Who knows? “Verified” is not a weasel word, and 3 k is the verified number. To me, that is the key number. Then too, not all civilian casualties are caused by Russian actions. Ukraine is bombing, shelling, etc, urban places too. As well as hunkering down on defense in the cities, guaranteeing civilian collateral casualties. Also, if Russia wanted to, or was even merely indifferent, civilian casualties would not be simply “considerably higher” than 3k, they would be a hundred times 3k, or more. If Russia wanted to, without using nuclear weapons, it could simply obliterate every city in Ukraine. Not only is it not doing that, but it is basically leaving the cities alone except for those on the front line, which the Ukranian military and its neo Nazi components have turned into fortresses. And is going out of its way to prevent civilian casualties by opening humanitarian corridors (something the US doesn’t do, BTW) and by not attacking civilian infrastructure like water, electricity, communications, etc. (something the US does NOT refrain from, BTW).
Nope, the evidence is all against you.
“First off, Anyone can “believe” anything.; that doesn’t make it true.”
Sure, but this happens to be the UN. Of course, in your warped mind they are not to be trusted either.
OHCHR believes that the actual figures are considerably higher, as the receipt of information from some locations where intense hostilities have been going on has been delayed and many reports are still pending corroboration. This concerns, for example, Mariupol (Donetsk region), Izium (Kharkiv region), Popasna (Luhansk region), and Borodianka (Kyiv
region).
What part of the above sentence don’t you understand?
So according to you there are zero casulaties in e.g. Mariupol, a city that has been under brutal assult from the Russian side due to its vulnerable position at the coast?
“If Russia wanted to, without using nuclear weapons, it could simply obliterate every city in Ukraine.”
Not true, to do that they would need to use either artillery or their air force (as they simply don’t possess enough convential missiles) and they had to retreat from e.g. Kyiv and they don’t enjoy air supremacy over the majority of Ukranian air space. So no, they can’t, even if they sure would like to and are trying their best.
You need to put your admiration for the Russian totalitarian nazi regime aside and look objectively on reports like this.
Just repeating yourself, now, Sparky. I “understand” it all. Civilian casualties are low, by any standard.
Now, (after saying for what seems a decade,) we have been saying clearly in an obfuscated side stepping fashion that ALL OPTIONS were on the Table. That means NUKES ARE ON THE TABLE. Our communications for several years is a Nuclear war solution.
Who’s table?
A: Our Foriegn policy war chest with a blanket on it table !
WE HAVE CLEARLY NOT CLEARED THE AIR ON THOSE VEILED THREATS EVER.
WE ARE GREEN TO GO THERMONUCLEAR.
And,.. who really cares Who starts it right? Who’s going to be around to do a cosplay re-enactment for entertainment?
A : Not Arizona.
There will be campfire storiesmaybe.
No. actually the big burn that follows the flood is In the Book, it is not a tabled option. The wicked get rubbed out. Only 144,000 make the A team.