Israeli officials have at times tried to present themselves as neutral to the ongoing Iran nuclear talks,. but they also regularly step up to angrily condemn diplomacy and issue calls to action.
Monday was Defense Minister Benny Gantz’s turn, as he called for the world to mobilize against Iran, and said Israeli actions against Iran, including military action, would happen whether or not a nuclear deal was reached.
Israeli officials have been saying that for awhile, but it may not be so easy. If Israel indeed attacks Iran unilaterally after a functioning nuclear deal is reached with the P5+1, they’d face a substantial backlash.
Israel has spent decades lobbying against deals with Iran, and agitating for military action. The US has suggested they are on the eve of a deal, and while the Biden Administration has warned Israel against being too hostile to the deal, no one could be surprised at the response so far.
Iran should stop negotiating with G5+1. What is the point. G5+ is irrelevant. Israel will decide. Not G5 or Iran
Letting them decide our gas prices is a risky gamble.
Because of the Ukraine sanctions effort, the US now needs Iran’s oil. Hence, the US needs the Iran Deal now.
Israel will be told to shut up and get out of the way, and not allowed to bomb our oil. What they could do before Ukraine, they can’t do now.
Hah… Though I agree with your sentiments, Israel will not shut up.
It will furthermore get US politicians to obediently dance like circus animals.
foodoo,
True – but when the car has been overheating and is now broken down in the road – a yapping, annoying little dog could be pushing its luck.
Till the price of gas hits $10…?? Or maybe $15? Some will go nuts if it makes $7.50…
Foodoo:
I would love to see that as a political cartoon!
Descriptive of Netanyahu’s address to that joint session of Congress, when old spry Joe Lierberman leaped to his feet with his sieg heils, on practically every word of the warmonger. The entire Congress followed suit.
Oh my, what a vivid and disturbing image!
Israel DM Urges World to Mobilize Against Israel
Good luck with that, Benny. You’ve been lucky so far that Russia and Iran don’t gang up and bomb you. Now that Russia doesn’t care about irritating the West by selling arms to Iran, I suspect Russia will now decide to go ahead and sell Iran that $10 billion deal they’ve been negotiating for fighter jets, T-90 tanks, and much more.
The Russian and Israeli regimes seem to have pretty good relations. In fact, they seem to be heavily involved in mediating between the Russian and Ukrainian regimes. And a lot of Israelis are of Russian extraction.
On the flip side, the Iranian regime got pissed at the Russian regime the other day for trying to use the nuclear deal negotiations as a bargaining chip to save face in Putin’s Ukraine fiasco.
A good reason for Iran to have its own nukes, Thomas.
What a lovely balance of power that could help produce.
Gypsy33:
You have such a sense of optimism!
Lol Donna, don’t I? 😉
“Putin’s Ukraine fiasco”? I’m no expert, but I still think Putin knows what he’s doing, at least in the long run.
I am inclined to agree…
Knowing what one is doing does not preclude fiascoes. Those are also dependent on what others are doing. The world is full of moving parts.
I suspect part of Putin’s problem was assuming rationality on the part of other actors, including the timely arrival of US/NATO troops along the line of march to Kiev so that he could gracefully, face-savingly back down there while attending to business in LPR/DPR/Mariupol, instead of having to waste time and manpower in those areas pretending to want to take western Ukraine. He’d probably be done by now and on a “return to normalcy” path otherwise.
Every day this drags on, the oligarchs who decide whether he continues to get to be their figurehead, or whether he gets taken out back for a blindfold, last cigarette, and bullet in favor of a fresh young “reformist” face, are watching their bank balances diminish and trying to explain to their kids why the French Riviera vacation may be off this year.
He may still get what he could rationally ask for — a commitment on the part of one of the smaller states to make vetoing Ukrainian membership in NATO official policy, and a new Ukrainian border that excludes LPR, DPR, and a corridor to Crimea — but every day this thing drags on without getting those things, wrapping the matter up, and bringing the troops home brings him closer to a dirt nap.
2nd last paragraph sounds like a description of Biden too.
It seems to me that Ukraine is winning propaganda & soft power war, but Putin winning the hard power war. The U.S & it’s NATO Gnomes look sad. When the No.1 debtor is the No.2 in hard power, a lot will change, and most likely for better, especall if China is on the new No.1 team.
Your construction (paralleling Neocon) of Putin’s power base, oligarchy, is incorrect according to the experts I trust. And your tone, the Stalin/Beria allusion, exposes an old unreconstructed Russophobe.
Who’s the old unreconstructed Russophobe that my “tone” exposed?
Look up Sergei Borisovich Ivanov. Or Nikolai Platonovich Patrushev. Or Igor Ivanovich Sechin.
Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the only question has been which oligarchs are in charge. The US had its preferred set to control Yeltsin in favor of its interests. Putin picked mostly a different set to be beholden to.
It’s not a lot different than in the US, just more brazen and with harsher consequences for not keeping the real bosses paid off.
1. The post Soviet era saw Russia looted for the first ten years at the direction of Western (IMF and US) “cold turkey” prescription, creating Western and Russian billionaires/mega-thieves.
2. When Putin took over it was economically, sociologically, and militarily prostrate. He set about clawing back what former public capital he could and arresting and jailing the billionaires. Those who remained he allowed to deep their loot so long as they stayed out of politics.
3. It’s not clear how much political power they ever wielded. While the leverage of Western capital was pellucid. “Oligarchy” is an ascription of the Western MSM.
4. Putin does have to take input from and vet all policy through the department heads of a very large and powerful bureaucracy, who appear to operate with him on a more or less collegial basis, … no “dictator” and no “oligarchs”.
5. All three benefitted form Brezhnev’s education reforms with elite academic credentials and went on to gain international and administrative experience in the KGB which, along with the trust of a former colleague, could easily be understood to qualify them for high level government service. And only one, Sechin, seems to qualify as ‘oligarch’. But the degree of -arch attributable to his wealth were adventitious and likely just the usual malicious propaganda.
“Those who remained he allowed to deep their loot so long as they stayed out of politics.”
Well, except for being in charge of every executive department of his government.
As I noted, according to their Wikipedia bio, only one is a billionaire. But even if they all were, your critical point, that these use their office primarily for self-aggrandizement, and that Putin is subject to the satisfaction of their selfishness, appears not to be true. In contrast to the individualist Hamiltonian ethos that predominates in the bourgeois West, Russia is communitarian. Putin’s devotion is first to Mother Russia. It’s said he has, for some time now, wished to retire, but is refused by your “oligarchs” because they trust and share his devotion, the veracity of which is evident in his resistance (apparently ad mortem) to sell-out, become another European vassal of corporate Washington.
“Putin’s devotion is first to Mother Russia.”
True. Also, he has a petting zoo full of pet unicorns that piss whiskey and shit ice cream. And he has a secret second moonlighting career as quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks.
Juvenile.
I thought that Seahawk QB was wearing blackface!
“Putin’s devotion is first to Mother Russia.”
True. Also, he has a petting zoo full of pet unicorns that piss whiskey and shit ice cream. And he has a secret second moonlighting career as quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks.
“Putin’s devotion is first to Mother Russia.”
True. Also, he has a petting zoo full of pet unicorns that piss whiskey and shit ice cream. And he has a secret second moonlighting career as quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks.
More brazen than Amerikkka, Thomas? Really?
Do the names Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya (“We came, we saw, we killed him”) escape your memory?
Oops, forgot Yemen…
More brazen in how internal power is taken and held, not in foreign policy idiocy.
Um…Thomas….whom exceeds Amerikkka in foreign policy idiocy?
I didn’t say ANYONE exceeds the US in foreign policy idiocy.
I just said that the US is less brazen in how we choose which ass-kisser of oligarchs will rule us. We try to cover it up by pretending to have multiple political parties and open elections. The Russians just put on a video of The Godfather and see who can do the best Brando impression.
So you’re saying that the Russians are less duplicitous than we are.
Not Russians in general. Russian politicians. As gangsters go, they don’t seem to feel as much need to hide who and what they are. They’re not as hung up on seeming “respectable” as American politicians.
“Seeming” is the operative word here, Thomas 😉
Neither US does care whether it looks respectable or trusting .Check with Africa Latin America or ME.
The Oligarchs pay Putin off for the right to operate-he still has the FSB,civil police and military-he runs the show
They don’t seem “pissed”, based on the stories at presstv. They seem on board with it.
Can Iran accept a treaty that bars Russia doing business with Iran because of sanctions imposed by the west on Russia ? It means that Iran will be fully at the mercy of the feckless western Europe and USA bribed and corrupted by the Lobby . That development is no improvement from the existing current situation .
Well, military armaments is the gift that keeps on giving…
Israel, Israel, Israel… I’m starting to think they have a fetish for global nuclear war… Time to find another hobby…
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Nice of them to dishow up a bit of comic relief during thsee days of genocide in Yemen and the horrors of Ukraine. If only they could muster some potent logic for those of us who see Iran as the victim in their rivalry…!!!!!
Does anyone ever wonder if Israel wants an actual nuclear war with Iran?…
No, they don’t… Israel only attacks and runs…! They are not war sustainable…!
“Israel DM Urges World to Mobilize Against Iran”___ LOL…! Good timing Gantz…! No one is listening to you since everyone’s attention is focused in Russia Ukraine conflict…!
Why isn’t the warmongering Israel cut off from SWIFT?
Ah, of course. Antony Blinken and his people love Israel’s land grabs and killings of civilians. But RUSSIA – they must be sanctioned and provoked. Because they have helped pro-Palestinian Syria, and somewhat helped pro-Palestinian Iran.
Good question why hasn’t Isreal been cutoff for the 70 years of assaults on Palestine or the annexation of the Golan Heights or the daily illegal bombing of Syria and Lebanon?
As MalcolmX said-By any means necessary.
This. When you have nothing else to justify Israel’s brutality. Another version of “never again”.
It seems Isreal along with other US allies are the only ones who have the RIGHT to “defend themselves” while everyone else if free game to be brutalized. Malcom X and the African American population actually had the right to claim “Any Means Necessary” Isreal has gone from being the oppressed to becoming the much harsher oppressor. Eventually when the Dollar along with its allies declines they will be surrounded by hostile neighbors with no ally to save it.
Meanwhile, Europe will have t obuy its gas from Israeli field in the Medditernean.
Turkish field.
Maybe they’ll help Palestine develop its portion of that field off the Gaza coast.
“Cause every one else around them is just as war mongering.
Not even close.
Denial-Hezzboalla, Hamas and Iran want peace and a two state solotion-HA HAHA!
We’re comparing warmongering. You brought it up. Exaggerated claims of genocide in the future don’t count. Once again, NOT EVEN CLOSE.
I hear that Biden is going begging to Maduro for oil.
Hope Maduro tells Biden to go piss himself.
Sadly, he just agreed to talk…!
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Maduro will say, “Give us our gold.” Among other things.
Venezuelan oil is heavy crude which demands either emulsifiers and light tight shale oil to meet medium grade oil demand. There’s a general dearth of shale production now despite high prices. The shale industry is on the downward slope with considerably low EROI as it is. Heavily indebted I might add. We might expect they’ll be nationalized if the status quo considerably worsens. How can it not?
Maduro and Russia President Vladimir Putin had a phone conversation last week. Which countries have the inside track to exploiting Venezuelan oil? My opinion is that Russia, Iran, and China do, in that order.
I doubt Maduro will be desperate to accept dollars for oil.
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With Shale Wells declining 75-80% a year, this will become increasingly difficult.
A perfect example is Whiting Petroleum’s Tarpon-Federal Wells which declined 81% in 11 months.
The Shale Industry is running out of Tier 1 drilling locations.
Hope you’re right!
Sorry kid, the adults are busy doing other more important stuff.
Who is Isreal to call on anyone to Mobilize against anyone? If they think it is so necessary why not do it themselves? Always looking for someone else to fight their battles
I don’t know about you, but I am fed up with looking around at the hunger, homelessness, joblessness, and decayed infrastructure of our nation while seeing government constantly whining about how they must take care of this neo-Nazi Israeli Regime.
I think it is time to take all the friends of Israel in government, put them on a cargo ship, and send them to this land they clearly love so much more than their own!
No government can serve two masters, and a government that serves Israel cannot, does not, and will not serve the American people. A friend of Israel is no friend of America. In these dark times America needs leaders who will put America first, second, and third!
I saw a very good cartoon the other day Edward: it showed two Molotov cocktails, one with the Ukrainian flag and one with the Palestinian flag.
The former was labeled “hero”; the latter “terrorist “.
Amerikkka’s hypocrisy is so blatant it’s enough to make you spit.