On Friday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov dismissed the US claim that Moscow was planning to make a “propaganda video” of a fake attack to justify an invasion of Ukraine as “nonsense.”
In comments to Newsweek, Russian Ambassador to the US Anatoly Antonov said the allegation was part of an information war against Russia. “These lies are part of information war against Russia. For several months already, Washington has been agitating the entire world with claims that Ukraine is about to fall victim to “Russian aggression.” However, a mishap happened since there is no invasion,” Antonov said.
Russia has been strongly denying that it plans to invade Ukraine since the US started making the claim in November. “I would like to assure Newsweek’s readers without reservation that Russia does not intend to attack anyone,” Antonov said.
Washington made the latest allegation against Russia without providing any evidence. US officials only said that there was “intelligence” that suggested Moscow was planning to make a video and didn’t provide any more detail than that. It was the second time in recent weeks that the US baselessly accused Russia of plotting a false flag as a pretext to invade Ukraine.
State Department spokesman Ned Price was confronted about the lack of evidence by AP reporter Matt Lee. Price insisted the word of US government officials should be enough. “That’s not evidence Ned, that’s you saying it. That’s not evidence,” Lee said.
See my comment in the other thread. Everyone is focusing on the wrong thing over this. It’s not the specific BS claim, it’s the pattern of such claims. This is the Iraq war run up all over again – except this time the US doesn’t intend to invade anyone, but “merely” start a war between Ukraine and Russia.
Which is of course bad enough, but since there are already NATO “trainers and observers” from the US and UK on the ground already, it won’t take long before NATO has to invade. They’ll claim Article V and all that, even though it doesn’t apply in non-NATO counties, or shouldn’t.
It’s not just “trainers and observers.” It’s 64,000 NATO troops and hundreds of ships and aircraft for the 9 or 10 NATO military exercises in Ukraine this year, starting this month.
I also read the US Embassy in Kyiv has, get this, 900 employees. How many do you think are spooks?
Didn’t know that. Problem with Embassy numbers is that they might include the locally hired staff. For example, the US Russian Embassy had almost 1,300 people – but 900 of them were Russian staff. So the question is how many of the Americans are spies?
I assume with Ukraine being next to Russia and the focus of a CIA/neocon intelligence operation that there are probably quite a few – just as one would expect quite a few in the Moscow Embassy.
And then there’s the problem that the spies operating there aren’t necessarily part of the Embassy itself, but are operating out of corporate or NGO fronts and are coordinated out of the Embassy CIA office.
But the only way to defeat this technique is to call into question US credibility, one claim at a time.
It is the ability to build narrative that makes these wars possible. If the narrative is Russian aggression and Russian duplicity, then they can have good hope for success. Doubt is their enemy.
If one wants to discredit these moves, one has to discredit the pattern, not just the specific incident. And a lot of people have done so over the years.
The problem is it doesn’t defeat the technique. The only people who could rein in the US – other than countries going to war against a nuclear superpower – is the US electorate. And they fall for this stuff over and over. So the US gets to do whatever it wants. The only two countries who can shut the US down are Russia and China – and that means WWIII.
I firmly agree, these are dangerous waters the US is playing in…
I believe that the analogy is much closer to “Vietnam”.
I wasn’t aware of the unification by vote in Vietnam. Good points. Just another example of the US getting a war started on false pretenses.
US Admits It’s Planning ‘Propaganda Video’ to Justify Invasion
One has to wonder if this is the best they can do?…
This kind of garbage can start wars!
The US has too much time on its hands… Even Alex Jones is better than that…
There is a parallel between Vietnam and Ukraine. In both cases our governments attempted to save a tottering government.
The current government of Ukraine can be overthrown in a few days. By Putin and his armed forces? No, by far right-wing Ukrainian militias.
Interestingly, also in both cases a war threat sprang from the refusal to keep and carry out a previous agreement. Vietnam: unification by vote. Ukraine: Minsk II.
Zelensky is firmly in power, though. There’s no Ho Chi Min coming after him from Donbass.
Well, at least as firmly in power as any Ukraine regime would be guarded by Azov praetorians.
Bernhard over at Moon of Alabama has another excellent piece up explaining how Ukraine’s former President Poroshenko was prevented from being arrested for treason on his return to Ukraine.
Turns out it wasn’t the US Embassy that protected him. Of course, I think it’s equally possible that the US also had a hand in it. This also touches on whether Zelensky has any freedom of movement in his government and whether he is on thin ice.
Canada Support Ukraine’s Self-determination And Independence … As Long As It Does As Canada Says
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/02/us-and-canada-support-ukraines-self-determination-and-independence-unless-it-does-not-do-as-they-say.html#more
Just found this over at the Grayzone – more on Chrystia Freeland from back in 2019.
‘Canada Adopts America First Foreign Policy,’ US State Dept boasted in 2017, with appointment of FM Chrystia Freelan
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/07/05/canada-adopts-america-first-foreign-policy-us-state-department-chrystia-freeland/
That would more accurately read “Canada Adopts Ukraine First Foreign Policy”, courtesy Soros Open Society activism.
Oh, this is rich. Bloomberg accidentally published a headline that Russia has invaded Ukraine. Yes, it’s probably true that it is a “contingency headline” – but one wonders nonetheless.
Bloomberg News accidentally publishes its pre-written “Russia invades Ukraine” story
https://bbs.boingboing.net/t/bloomberg-news-accidentally-publishes-its-pre-written-russia-invades-ukraine-story/214422
Statement on Publishing Error
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-04/statement-on-publishing-error
The Beijing Winter Olympics was stealing all the headlines.
What could they do?
What seems to have happened was the original US false flag op ran into a little snag – no Ukrainians wanted to get hurt or die like Syrians get hurt and die in Syrian false flag crisis videos.
However, not harming real live Ukrainians lowered the production value of the false flag video.
This could only be remedied by claiming the Russians made the false flag movie to explain the lower production values.
The video even had the little disclaimer thingy at the end – “No Ukrainians were harmed in the making of this production.”
I have to say, I’m just about sick of this dangerous garbage…
Indeed.
Biden won’t commit to war, Putin won’t invade, Zelensky seems adapt at avoiding further civil war, but we’re going to get everything else short of those worst-case scenarios.
Who Is running this country? It sure as hell isn’t Biden.
Or maybe he is and that’s why we are where we are.
Can’t rule that out… no matter what the lobby, only Biden can sign the orders.
There seems to be a pile-up of would-be hand-forcers in his palm.
Amidst a severely underestimated Covid depopulation death count, a US-instigated false flag would seem the obvious next ploy.
The WEF’s chief psychopath is betting Russia will completely cut off all natural gas supplies to most European nations. Aside from scarcity and higher prices, bankruptcies and higher death counts ensue. The self-feeding loop accelerates and Europe’s financial and economic collapse is assured.
The reverberations will be felt throughout America as the distance between dominos is short. American propaganda will become both useless and needless as most have the status quo figured out re the vaccine and the deaths associated.
Whether the said psychopath wants a nuclear exchange to complete what passes for a master plan is beyond my pay grade.
It’s not in my pay grade either but it makes a hell of a good story, the only difference is a nuclear exchange would be very bloody real!
‘we do dso we do in ways that protect the sources for the information ‘
Yes America is so worried about the safety of the sources of the information that it has not revealed the names of sources who porvided America with the informations of an immidiate nuclear atack by Iraq , immidate gas attack and biological attack by Iraq and Al Qiada ,because in case a future preemptive invaiosn become economicaly desirable ,that disgraced source may have some pangs of cosncience and may not provide the script.
Ned Price, State Spox:
“We stand in solidarity with the Ukrainian people. Our allies and partners have spoken and call on Russia to de-escalate immediately” ..slide show of US European puppets kowtowing to the US here
Biden and his neocon masters have been promising us “an imminent Russian invasion” since November!
I haven’t seen this much BS hype since Saddam’s aluminum tubes.
First they said “imminent”. Then they dropped the “imminent” a few days ago – and now today Jake Sullivan says “any day now” – which is what “imminent” usually means. Then he qualified that by saying “maybe out to a few months.”
They also keep talking about “frozen ground” from February to end of March – when that doesn’t even matter since any army can operate in mud. Certainly the Russians can – they train year-round in all weather. But the fact that they keep bringing up February hints that’s when the Ukraine offensive or provocation is likely to occur.
The question is: What are they going to do if February and March comes and goes? And April…May…June… The only way to avoid looking like idiots is to get that war going sooner rather than later.
But the main key to me is the presence of 64,000 NATO troops and hundreds of NATO ships and aircraft starting this month for military exercises. The size of the exercises is double that of last year. There has to be a reason for that.
So when Ukrainians loyal to Kiyv kill more disloyal Ukrainians with weapons provided by the United State and United Kingdom, Ned Price can claim that any Russian defense of the disloyal Ukrainians from Kiyv’s deadly aggression is an “invasion” following Russia’s own “false flag” attack on the disloyal Ukrainians.
“So when Ukrainians loyal to Kiyv kill more disloyal Ukrainians with weapons provided by the United States”
And according to General McKenzie, the US is “morally responsible” for those deaths:
“Talking up the regional nature of this war, Gen. McKenzie insisted the Houthis are using Iranian equipment against UAE, and that this makes Iran “morally responsible” for the strikes.”
https://news.antiwar.com/2022/02/06/centcom-looks-to-build-on-us-military-guarantees-to-united-arab-emirates/
So many allegedly informed people seem to tell us they do not know Pres. Putin’s evil plans, yet we are expected to believe the whoppers daily emitted by Biden and his minions. Never do they listen to Putin or any of the Russians, whose constant denials as usual are correct. The troops are in Russia and are not invading anyone or threatening to, but weeks of lies go on goading them. Who benefits?? Not poor Ukraine, our friend.