On Thursday, State Department spokesman Ned Price said the Biden administration has no plans to make any “unilateral gestures” to jump-start talks with Tehran to revive the nuclear deal, known as the JCPOA.
“We will not offer any unilateral gestures or incentives to induce the Iranians to come to the table,” Price told reporters. “If the Iranians are under the impression that absent any movement on their part to resume full compliance with the JCPOA that we will offer favors or unilateral gestures, well, that’s a misimpression.”
Price was reiterating the administration’s stance that the US will not give Iran relief from crippling economic sanctions before Iran reduces the activity of its civilian nuclear program. Since the US is the party that withdrew from the deal in 2018, Tehran is calling on President Biden to act first. Iranian officials have been clear that they are ready to quickly abide by the limits set by the JCPOA once the US lifts sanctions.
Price also repeated another stance of the administration, that they wish to seek a stricter deal after a revival of the JCPOA. He said if the agreement was restored, it would be a “necessary but insufficient development.”
“Insufficient because we would then seek to lengthen and strengthen the terms of that deal, using it as a platform to negotiate follow-on arrangements to address these other areas of profound concern with Iran’s behavior in the region,” Price said.
Demanding a stricter deal before giving Iran sanctions relief does not send a good signal to Tehran. So far, by demanding talks before sanctions relief, President Biden is pursuing the identical Iran policy of his predecessor, and ordinary Iranians dealing with the economic ramifications of US sanctions continue to suffer.
They are lying as usual. Israel doesn’t want it so Winken Blinken and Nod are sitting on their hands.
Thank you for mentioning Blinken. As pro-Israel as they come.
No one was more Pro Israel than the Trump admin. especially in the UN, the UN is 90 % anti Israel. Show mw one policy statement made by Blinken that it is more pro Israel. After all, the US and Israel have bin good friends for some 70 years, why would back stab your friends. The US gets voted down many most of the times in the UN, jet it spends more money on its programs then any other country, yet Israel is a staunch friend of the US, votes with the US most of the time.
So the party who unilaterally left the deal doesn’t feel they should need to unilaterally rejoin it … makes sense in DC I’m sure.
Well the US is Exceptional lol.
It is, home to people who came from 191 Nations in the last 350 year’s, and they keep on coming, recent surveys show that more the 376 million people from many countries would come to the US tomorrow if they could, plus 12% of the Russian populational Wonder why that is.
Aren’t you worried that a chunk of those Yankee Dollars will go for illegal aliens’ health care and be pared from the gravy train to Israel?
Making up stories again John, shame on you, at least you can be honest.
Correction: Some of that money comes back and finds its way into the pockets of the Israel regime’s supporters in Congress.
John, your one piece of work.
David – you have your head in the sand. How else do you think aipac, representing a foreign entity, has made Congress into the occupied territory it has become for the Israeli regime. You know that “actor” is doing that.
OK – gravy aircraft.
LOL
The fact of the matter is that ranking officials of the Palestinian Authority who divvy out this money, keep lots of it for themselves and have build some nice mansions in Cairo and Beirut with it. You can read that in the free West Bank Palestinian Press weekly. Its now secret of the amount of corruption that is going on in the Palestinian Authority Government. Favors and exceptions can be bought like olives oil in the West Bank.
Nothing compared to Bibs.
Sounds a lot like the US, where people making $100k a year go into Congress, make $174k a year, and somehow magically sprout net worths in the millions and tens of millions of dollars.
Or like Israel, where Benjamin Netanyahu, son of a professor, who has spent his entire life in government except for a brief period as a private “economic consultant” from 1976-78 and yet somehow became a multi-millionaire.
I Expect more from you then just pulling numbers out of the air, were are the facts.
So Iran should give everything originally promised, but will get only more demands. They’d get what they were promised only if they gave in to every additional demand from the US, which are not even clear to the US yet.
That is a very Israeli position for the US to take. It shows what comes of meeting with Israel to decide on how to handle Iran.
It is the position taken toward the Palestinians since day one.
The Jews accepted the UN Partition Resolution. The Arabs didn’t & attacked Israel on day one.
You cant tell this to these, pseudo peace lovers on this posting.
You know your history well, unlike the history revisionists on this posisng.
Neither “the Jews” nor “the Arabs” are monolithic entities with single opinions on anything.
In fact, many Jews rejected the whole idea of a “Jewish state,” as sacrilegious, while some of the Negev Bedouin fought for Israel in the 1948 war.
There is a samll group uf ultra Orthodox Jews called the Haredim, they believe that only the coming of t he real messiah can reestablish the Davidic Kingdome Of Israel. They w ill be waiting a long time, another saying is that God helps those who help themselves. In the meantime they live on the Government dole and say their work is to pray all day for the prophesy to occur.
Yes, there are some ultra-orthodox who oppose the state of Israel on messianic grounds.
There are also other religious and non-religious Jews who oppose either the existence or the behavior of the state of Israel on various grounds.
There is a difference between being “a” Jewish state and being “the” representative of Jews as such.
Israel is definitely the former — a state ruled for the express benefit of a particular ethnic group, like the Third Reich, old South Africa or Rhodesia, etc.
It is not in any way, shape, manner, or oform the latter.
Name me one Nation in the world were a large group of Jews can feel save besides Israel. The US, not anymore. Poland has about 3000 old Jews leftover from the Holocausts from a pre-Holocausts population of some 3 million, these old people are still being discriminated against by this very Catholic society.
Feel free to point to any reason why “a large group of Jews” wouldn’t feel safe in the US. The Jewish community seems to feel safe in St. Louis, where I used to live. It seems to feel safe in Gainesville, where I live now. It seemed to feel safe in Brooklyn when I visited there.
A lot of African-Americans seem, sometimes with good reason, to not feel especially safe in America. But we still call out separatists like Louis Farrakhan as the bigots they are.
Feel free to point to any reason why “a large group of Jews” wouldn’t feel safe in the US. The Jewish community seems to feel safe in St. Louis, where I used to live. It seems to feel safe in Gainesville, where I live now. It seemed to feel safe in Brooklyn when I visited there.
A lot of African-Americans seem, sometimes with good reason, to not feel especially safe in America. But we still call out separatists like Louis Farrakhan as the bigots they are.
After WW ll, some 400,000 Holocaust, stateless refugee survivors emigrated legally and illegally from Western Europe to Israel or before called Palestine under the British mandate and later Israel after UN partition to find a Jewish homeland. When they got there with only but the clothes on their backs, the land was mostly treeless, barren semidesert. Today Israel is a modern State and a net exporter of Israeli grown food products and has to worry about Forrest fires.
And yet it doesn’t seem interested in giving up its multi-billion dollar US welfare checks or conducting its own foreign policy instead of just exercising influence and de facto veto power over Washington’s.
Israel was against the deal made by Obama with Iran, where was their congressional power because they thought that it would put them in much greater danger, the deal did include Iran funding militia proxis in Iraq who are attacking US Troops suporting the Iraq Army. Hezbollah, Hamas, military build ups in Syria, all entities against Israel. The defensive Military assistance it receives from the US is just that. Israel spends 6.5 % of GDP on its military, US 3.5 %. Much of it is spend on defenting the skys of Isreale, like Iron Dome, Davids sling, Arrow and other sytemes. The Israeli Government says that Iron Dome and Davids Sling has saved many lives targeted by Hezbollah and Hamas rockets, artillery shells and other weapons. To even things up, the US sends some 2.8 $ to other Arab countries like Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Palestinian Authority, Tunisia . The US has many military and economic alliances with other countries, but the alliance between Israel gets more scrutiny and criticism then any other. Should Israel just dismiss the constant threads voiced by Iran that it will destroy it and wipe it off the face of the earth, what did Israel ever do to Iran. Biden will probably renew the deal with Iran, Isreal will not be part of it because Iran does not recognize the legitimacy of Israel. Deal or no deal, the Israelis have indicated, if the Iranians get to close in building the bomb they will act. like did against Syrias and Sadams nuclear facilities. Israeli intel told George W. Bush that Sadam did not trying to build the bomb, and not to attack Iraq, Iraq kept Iran in check. As it turned out, Sadam admitted after bieng captured that he was trying to make the Iranian that he had the bomb. The second mistake Bush made was to dissband the Iraq Army that turned into the insurgency named ISIS. The Military warned him not to do it. They wanted to retire Generals and promote some of the Colonels and recreate an Iraq Amry under an elcted Government friendly to the US and not Iran.
“Israel was against the deal made by Obama with Iran, where was their congressional power”
Israel didn’t exist when Congress approved of the Iran nuclear deal (by ratifying the UN charter in 1945 — the deal is a UN Security Council resolution, binding on all UN member states).
Yes, I understand that there are all kinds of excuses for the Israeli regime wanting its welfare check and wanting the US to do its heavy military lifting for it. Excuses are like assholes. Everybody’s got one and they all stink.
Name one “military heavy lifting the US does for Israel’ Also, Israel has existed since 1948, Iran does not recognize Israel. Before the the first Iraq war in 190-1991,there were few US troops stationed in the Middle east. Since 1947, Israel has fought every war alone, but cant fight without weapons when in each war, the enemy is fully suppled by the USSR. Israel never asked for military’s help from anybody, for one, it knows it wont get any help from anybody. It keeps re-iterating many times that it does not need any boots on the ground Military help. It advised Bush ll, not to invade Iraq again, for one ,Israeli intel told him that Iraq did did not have or was working on the Bomb. Otherwise they would have destroyed that capability themselves like they did before. As I said before, Arab countries get almost as much aid as Israel, I listed these countries in my last retort to you. Most of the Military aid Israel gets from the US is in Military jets and anti long range missiles that Iran could launch and some heavy artillery weapons and mobility equipment. Israel produces much of its ground forces equipment, including Tanks, all small arms, ammunition. In 2019 Isreale military budget was $ 20.5 billion, almost twise as much of GDP as the US. The US provided $3.9 mostly n military aid research funds. All of the military aid is produced in the US, after all taxes are paid to the US Government by he manufacturers and employees, the total is actually 20% less than the $$3.8 Billion. Every defensive war Israel fought or will fight, if not won, could be their last war. Not only would they lose their country but also most of their population, because they know what atrocities Muslim do to the losers of a war. Can you imagine what they would do to Jew
Israel or any other Nation does not need congressional power to express an onion, especially when it comes to Iran, its arch enemy.
What do you call the $ 3.1 billion in arms and economic aid going to Muslim countries of whom most were considered enemies of Israel. “Mothersmilk”
I call it the same thing as I call it when it goes to the Israeli regime: Welfare checks.
If the Arab states are going to be bribed to not attack Israel, I’d rather Israeli taxpayers than US taxpayers coughed up the bribes.
Israel has signed peace agreements with most Arab States accept Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Kuwait and perhaps a few other smaller states. Name me one Arab State that could actually attack and defeat Israel, or all them combines. Israel is much stronger now than it was in 1973 when it defeated Egypt, Jordan, Syria and a few other smaller Arab states who send a few brigades to help the Arab armies.
If it’s so much stronger now, why did it get its ass whipped in its 2006 invasion of Lebanon?
Make up our mind, is it a welfare check, or is it bribe money. So, they can kill 2 birds with one stone..
Iran is the sworn enemy Israel , Israel can voice opinions, after all, Israel has Military and economical ties with the US, mutual beneficial to both countries. Israels opinions is based on the huge amount of intelligence info that is handed over to is partner the US. were was all that power that Israel has in the White House and the Congress to stop making that first deal with Iran. Biden will most likely make the deal again, against Israeli advise. Besides, if Iran goes ahead with making the bomb, deal or no deal, Israel will act. Biden knows that, maybe that is his backstop.
The population of Israel hs 9 million citizens, 2.2 million Mislims, 1.2 million Christians, Druz and other ethnicities’and 6.5 million Jews, all the right to vote, all are treated the same under Israeli laws, Ther is no segregation of any kind. Recent surveys show that 90% of Muslim citizens are happy living in Israel and would not leave. There a citizens of all pigmentations living in a democracy with plenty of opinions. The Muslim citizens have 3 parties with 3 different ideologies.
What the US wants is a total surrender by Iran but hell will freeze over before that happens.
Thats not true, the UN wants Iran to act like a responsible member Nation.
They have been. Israel has been the irresponsible one in the area – bombing their neighbors at will.
Responding to constant Rocket attacks on civilian populations, is defensive. If it wasn’t for Israel’s Iron Dome anti rocket and missiles defensive system, many lives in Israel have bin saved. When Israel retaliates, it goes after the rockets and rocket launches, tries to avoid civilian casualties even if the rocket launches are located in civilian homes and mosques. Thousands of Rockets have been fired by Hamas and Iran backed Hezbollah since 2006, in border areas Israelis and Farmers have to hide in Air Raid shelters when the rockets and mortars come, they have only 1-2 minutes to respond and hide with their children.
Oh the poor darlings – bottle rockets with 4th of July potency against aircraft, artillery and invading forces.
The Hamas assembled Quassam Rocket, with an TNT iexplosive can easily destroy a single or one story civilian dwelling contracted with bricks or or concrete blocks.
and how many casualties in the past two years? Just as I thought. How many Palestinian casualties just from militant land-stealing settlers? Many more.
Not one Palestinian was displaced on this semi-desert land.
In unity there is strength
Tell that to the apartheid Israeli regime.
That is not true, you have no evidence of that.
The Germans denied knowing there were concentration camps, too.
Some 3 million visitors of many Nationalities travel to Israel and the west bank, not one has reported seeing any evidence of what you call apartheid, they can go anywhere they want. The South African government has complaint to the people using this term that a South African tragedy and should not be used to diminish of what happen in South Africa, also, it does not believe that this term is applicable to Israel. Israel consists of a varied racial population of Blacks, Browns and White pigmented people and there is no Government mandated differentia’s.
“Some 3 million visitors of many Nationalities travel to Israel and the west bank, not one has reported seeing any evidence of what you call apartheid”
“‘This is like apartheid’: ANC veterans visit West Bank”
You were saying?
Some of the comments made by the visiting ANC delegation, The official statement made by the Government, the term: “apartheid” does not apply to Israel, because it would diminish the actual circumstances the People of South Africa endured at that time.
“One prominent member of the delegation, who declined to be named, said South Africa had been “much poorer” both during and after apartheid than the Palestinian territories Israelis point out there are no South-African-style laws segregating Israeli and East Jerusalem Arabs from Israeli Jews in public spaces.
The delegation yesterday urged international support for the “new and small movement of Palestinian-Israeli joint non-violent struggle”. And its members stressed their understanding of Israeli security needs. Mr Feinstein said: “I completely understand the fears of Israelis … but at the same time we have seen for ourselves and been told about all sorts of measures that don’t seem to be in terms of security and in some instances could if anything undermine the security of the state.” He added: “The level of social control I’ve seen here, separate roads, different number plates [between Palestinian and Israeli cars] may well be more cynically pernicious than what we have had. But this is a country that is really about how there is going to be divorce and we were always a marriage.” Ms Hassan herself said she thought the apartheid comparison was a potential “red herring”.
Israelis point out there are no South-African-style laws segregating Israeli and East Jerusalem Arabs from Israeli Jews in public spaces.The delegation’s final formal statement made no mention of comparisons with apartheid and Judge Davis said he thought the use of the term in the Middle East context was “very unhelpful”.
You didn’t say not everyone agrees that the Israeli regime is an apartheid regime.
You said that NONE of the visitors to the occupied territories agreed that the Israeli regime is an apartheid regime.
I try to operate on the assumption that when someone is wrong, he is probably merely ignorant of this or that fact rather than intentionally dishonest about it. But the thing is, when you find out you’re in a hole the first step to getting out is to stop digging.
The ANC was not taking a vacation trip to Israel, they went on fact finding mission, Some of these people were known to be biased against Israel before they got there.
So?
You made a specific claim.
That specific claim was bullshit.
Now you want to argue different claims instead of just admitting that the specific claim was bullshit.
You don’t want to admit the truth, you just want to play “gotchyas”
The truth is that Israel is an apartheid garrison ethno-state.
But that’s beside the point, because I was just pointing out that a specific claim you made was bullshit.. If you don’t want bullshit claims disproven, don’t make bullshit claims.
” IDF got its ass whipped.” you phrase that so joyfully, this from an “ant-warfighter, its nothing but hypocrisy. You brought up the ANC fact finding mission to Israel, what did find, not much, they found that the west bank Arabs live much better as whole then many South Africans during the real apartheid in South Africa.
” South African ambassador to Israel Major General Fumanekile Gqiba generally did not agree with the analogy that Israel is a racist apartheid state, saying about his time in Israel:
before I came here. I regarded Jews as whites. Purely whites. But when I came here I discovered that, no, these guys are not purely whites. …You’ve got Indian Jews, you’ve got African Jews, and you’ve got even Chinese Jews, right? I began to say to our comrades, No, Israel is not a white country… Perhaps we would say there are those who came from Poland, who happened to be white—i.e. Ashkenazi their culture still dominates. It’s difficult to say Israel is racist, in a classic sense”
I don’t use the phrase “got its ass whipped” with any particular emotion at all. It’s just a bare statement of plain fact as acknowledged by the Israeli regime at the time. And the Israeli regime has publicly agonized over what it perceives as a continuous diminution of its military power versus the Arab states ever since. I don’t consider that a good thing or a bad thing except in the context of how it affects the prospects for peace. If the Israeli regime regards itself as not in good position to go to war, and if it at some point the US regime tells the Israeli regime “you don’t get to run and hide behind us the next time you pull something stupid,” they might be more inclined to seek an actual solution. Right now, peace breaking out would mean an end to the welfare checks, etc. Not just for the Israelis, but for the Egyptians, et al. Which is why none of them are interested in peace breaking out.
As for me bringing up the ANC mission to the West Bank, YOU are the one who asserted that of all the bazillion visitors to the West Bank, none — zero, zip, zilch, nada — had come away comparing the situation there to apartheid. The first search result that came up when I went to verify or falsify your statement was a story about the ANC visit, which falsified that statement.
The IDF, asked for 5 more days so they can finish the job and take out all the remaining rockets and launchers that Hezbollah was hiding and put the rocket attacks on civilians to an end. The Israelis felt that the US stabbed them in the back by citing with the Russians and the UN
And yet the Israelis themselves say differently.
Regarding the Invasion of Lebanon to destroy the Hezbollah rockets that were raining down on Israelis farms and civilians.
As the IDF brought up a second Armour Infantry division for the final push and finish the job, the Russians called for a cease-fire, Israel refused but the US convinced them somehow to stop the counter-attack. Following is an abbreviated story of what happen with the Lebanon war, which was not really with Lebanon but with Hezbollah,
The heavy fire between the sides was exchanged across the length of the Blue Line, with Hezbollah targeting IDF positions near Israeli towns.
Thus began the 2006 Lebanon War. Israel responded with massive airstrikes and artillery fire on targets throughout Lebanon, an air and naval blockade, and a ground invasion of southern Lebanon. In Lebanon, the conflict killed over 2,100 people, including Hezbollah combatants, severely damaged Hezbollah infrastructure, and displaced about one million people. Israel suffered 42 civilian deaths as a result of prolonged rocket attacks being launched into northern Israel causing the displacement of half a million Israelis. Normal life across much of Lebanon and northern Israel was disrupted, in addition to the deaths in combat.
A United Nations-brokered ceasefire went into effect on 14 August 2006. The blockade was lifted on 8 September by the Israeli Navy.
The Israeli regime doesn’t agree with your assessment. Its own Winograd Commission concluded that the IDF got its ass whipped.
What else do you nee to know, Israel proper is not a Apartheid State, neither is the west Bank, mostly ethninic Arabs live there in unison, before the antifadas, there were no security fences and very few check points, after and during the intifadas over 1000 Israelis lost their lives to suicide vest wearing teenagers,who are promised paradise and virgins, gun fire, stabbings, buses and cafe’s,restorants being blown up in Israel proper. Israelis finally had to do something about, cleaning up bloody streets, finding woman’s breasts sticking to walls like suction cups, they even found some infants heads in nearby residents balconies. After the security fences were put up and check points established , violence against Israeli civilians was reduced by 99%. The ANC fact finding mission did not find anything as could be described apartheid. The South African Government itself denied the usage of that term.
“He added: “The level of social control I’ve seen here, separate roads, different number plates [between Palestinian and Israeli cars] may well be more cynically pernicious than what we have had. But this is a country that is really about how there is going to be divorce and we were always a marriage.” Ms Hassan herself said she thought the apartheid comparison was a potential “red herring”.
Give examples of apartheid in Israel. Yes, I do know, Muslims are not allowed to marry non Muslims or convert,punishmenst by death.. Israelis can marry anyone they want.
Our No.1 Welfare Queen dictating what policy we must follow. Mean While we’re going deeper & deeper into trillions of dollars of debt. For what. Or should I say for whom..???
I keep repeating it, Isreael does no care what the US does. If Iran gets to close of building the bomb, Israel will act and take it out, it has no other choice, if they get the bomb, they will drop one on Tel Aviv and one Haifa, they say that their ICBM is being tested, if they manage to do this before Israel can destroy their facilities, it will be the end for both countries, and all the comments and discussions on this posting will be for naught, which actually they are already.
Iran should just put an end to all inspections & continue with their nuclear development
That would mean tearing up the NPT that Iran signed in 1968, ratified in 1970.
Which Israel, a nuclear power, has not signed and will never sign.
which means Israel is the hypocrite.
Israel being a nuclear power it the biggest ruse since the point of Invasion by the allieis was going to be Calais in France. Regardless, Israel will destroy Iran’s nuclear ambitions if they get to close to makin the “hot bomb” Just like they have Syrias and Iraqs installations in the past. Israel has no choice, it means “To be exist or not not to exist”
Iran wants to destroy the US. With nukes it could. I don’t want to be incinerated.
As long as the US continues to wage undeclared war on Iran as it has for 40-plus years (and for 25 years before that supporting a US puppet regime it had installed in a 1953 coup), the Iranian regime can only be expected to retaliate in kind when it can find ways to do so.
Most Iranians probably DON’T want to destroy the US, and destroying the US would require a lot more than having some nukes, but the US has acted decisively to keep 1) the mullahs in power and 2) the Iranian populace angry at the US. If the US is worried about a nuclear Iran destroying the US, the best bet would be to stop giving Iranians good reason to want to destroy the US.
I have news for you, recent surveys indicate that most Iranians like the US and hate their Government. Have you counted the demonstrations last year by thousands of young and old Iranians all over Iran, have also counted the hundreds of arrests of peaceful demonstrators and the dozens who were shoot and wounded.
Sounds like the mobs who hated Trump. They hated their government too, and some on the right hate their Biden/Harris “government”. Does that mean a foreign nation or two should stick their noses into an affair that’s none of their business.
America has defensive and economic treaties with many nations, it has every right to come to the help of these Nations.
Oh really now? So that’s the new excuse?
I thought you knew something !
You obviously don’t
I would hate to be a personal friend of yours knowing that.
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It might also help if the US dumped it’s hypocrisy about nuclear weapons in the Middle East, when there’s only one country in the Middle East that has them, and not a peep.
That’s exactly what the israelis wants you to believe without having to admit it, its the biggest ruse ever put over the media, that was actually invented by the mdia, and Israel laughing with it all the way to the bank.
Get outta here with your tripe. Surprise, surprise – I revisit websites too, like you.
It is the US and Israel who are making it impossible for the JCPOA to work, they want everything but are going to give nothing.
To the Israelis all treaties are immaterial. if Iran builds the Bomb covertly or overtly, they will destroy Irans capabilities to accomplish that.
Oh look, David thought he was getting the last word on a myriad of posts.
“Iranian officials have been clear that they are ready to quickly abide by the limits set by the JCPOA once the US lifts sanctions.”
Iran should know by now that the US will not lift sanctions first. So “quickly abide by the limits set by the JCPOA” and watch as the US moves the goal posts yet once again. At which point it will be obvious to the world that the US isn’t a reliable partner in any agreement. The back and forth will go on forever and the only way to end it is by exposing the US intent and that is that they have absolutely no intention of EVER going to go back to the original deal.
US allies know they are not to be trusted but continually side with them , Europe should dump NATO and form a security allience with Russia .
Who will protect Europe from Russia? Russia annexed the Crimea & occupies part of Georgia.
NATO
because the majority Russian population of those areas, want it.
I think all NATO Nations can protect Europe, Russia is empty suit with nukes.
What did the Spider say to the Fly ?
With “Putin” the killer,
It should be clear to all, the world over, that the control of the United States of America is Israel.
Israel is forcing America to, in turn, force the hand of Iran to fall into a trap so as to make it easier for Israel to attack all of Iran’s reactors (and its ports, in order to prevent Iran from exporting any oil – Israel has already attacked Iranian oil tanker ships, and act of war).
As an American, I am more than a little p*ssed.
Iran doesn’t just want to destroy Israel. Iran wants to destroy us.
“Iran has no choice but to destroy America so it can build an ideal society, the head of the Islamic Republic’s paramilitary force has told his troops.”
Sure. “Israel wants to rule the world and destroy all Muslims and Christians” = see how easy that is to put dumb statements in parentheses?
You must be a big fan of the book “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a literary forgery first published in 1903 in Russian, alleging a Jewish and Masonic plot to achieve world domination. The hoax was popularized by those opposed to Russian revolutionary movement, and was widely circulated in the West in 1920 and thereafter. It continues to be published and circulated despite its debunking.
As an American you are totally misinformed. At this poing, Israel does not care if the US Has some king of agreement or care about Iranian oil, I will oil self sufficient in about 6 moths, not for export. If Israel seed that Iran is getting close to making that bomb, it will disrupt its production. Israel will not let Iran threaten its existance with an A-Bomb. Not a week goes by without Iran promising the destructin of the Israel. How many times have we heard the chant in their Mosques, death to Israle, death to America.
Israel has not attacked nay Iranian oil tankers. Iran exports plenty of oil to China, India,North Korea , Cuba and even Venezuela amongst others not complying with the US embargo. Iran on numerous occasions has pledged to destroy Israel. Israel is taken them very seriously. When Iran gets to close to making the bomb, Iserael will destroy that capability. This will happen regardless if Biden recreated the old deal or not .
Yep has i have said before US deplomacy consists of 4 words ,DO AS WE SAY.
“Nothing fundamental will change…”
This contradicts what national security advisor, Jake Sullivan, said as also reported by Dave DeCamp.
https://news.antiwar.com/2021/03/12/sullivan-us-engaged-in-indirect-diplomacy-with-iran/
Utterly shameful. The US has become the laughing stock of the world.
Our word means NOTHING unless we get the green light from Israel.
How embarrassing!!
What’s shameful is that Iran is trying to destroy other countries.
What’s shameful is morons like you repeating neocon talking point ad nauseum. How many failed states is Iran responsible for?
What’s shameful is morons like you repeating neocon talking point ad nauseum. How many failed states is Iran responsible for?
Iraq is on their list, Yemen is there already, Libya has bin a part to their agenda and is a failing state.
I asked for the ones Iran is responsible for, not the US.
Besides Israel, their second biggest target is Saudi Arabia, that is more of Oil and religious thing.
Latest intenational polls, 376 million people want to come live in the US, including 12% Russians, 1.5 million Iranians, as estimated by US Alliance of Iranian immigrants.
Nothing is changing. Biden follows in the Trumps footsteps, because they both have to follow the dictates of the Deep State, that is the MIC.
The deep state not only lives in your grey matter but also in your “sitzflaisch”
from TheJerusalemPost. . .
Military action may be only way to stop Iran, former Trump official says
Elliott Abrams said that going back to the JCPOA in 2021 is not a simple prospect. If Iran is “absolutely determined” to develop a nuclear weapon, the only way to stop the rogue regime may be militarily, according to Elliott Abrams. If that assumption is correct, then “ultimately Israel and the United States will have to face that.”
In the meantime, the new US administration under President Joe Biden has expressed interest in rejoining the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) deal signed in July 2015 by China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States.
Trump abandoned the Iranian nuclear deal in 2018. Abrams said going back to the JCPOA in 2021 is not a simple prospect. . .here
Why not? We did a unilateral action in scrapping it. Looks like warmongers still rule.
re: “We will not offer any unilateral gestures or incentives to induce the Iranians to come to the table.”
Yes, the US dropped out of the JCPOA unilaterally but is now claiming that it must act in a collegiate manner, discussing options with allies including Israel. Sure it’s a different administration but the now Biden-promoted idea that the US will not act alone is comical. On Afghanistan, for example, the US is claim that it is working with its imperialistic allies in Europe is not true according to the Europeans involved. They get a notification from the US once in a while is all. But we can expect to hear a lot of the “US and allies” crapola from Biden, Blinken and Sullivan on “joint strategies.” We hear it on China also, most recently on the Quad nothingburger which is being claimed by Washington, especially NSA Sullivan, to be a big deal and it isn’t. Biden calls it a return to the “rules-based international order™” — we’ll hear that a lot. It means “total US control.”
I keep telling you Don, it doesn’t matter if there is treaty or not.Israel will destroy Iran’s capability to make the bomb , if they even get close to it. They will have to destroy their facilities while they are still “cold” means will not disperse nuclear radio active material, when the facilizes are considered hot, it may be to late to bomb them without dispersing nuclear material in a wide are, prevailing winds could blow them all over the planet like it happen with the Chernobyl explosion. When Israel destroyed Syria’s Atomic infrastructure when the elder Assad was dictator and later Sadam’s Atomic ambitious, they had to do it while these plants were still cold. I see no other results for Irans Atomic plants.
“When Israel destroyed Syria’s Atomic infrastructure”
At least what Israel claimed. There were some buildings so there was Atomic infrastructure.
From Haaretz news service ; this is after the bombing
In mid August 2007, Israeli commandos from the Sayeret Matkal reconnaissance unit covertly raided the suspected Syrian nuclear facility and brought nuclear material back to Israel. Two helicopters ferried twelve commandos to the site in order to get photographic evidence and soil samples.
Casualties: 10 North Korean nuclear scientists …
Planned by: Israeli Air Force
Outcome: Successful destruction of the site
Now I’m convinced.
How would Israel feel if a foreign power raided their nuclear sites and got rid of that ridiculous “neither confirm nor deny” meme?
Iran pledged to destroy Israel of the face of the map publicly. They are taking it very seriously and will destroy Irans ability to make the bomb, treaty or no treaty with the Americans.
all the while Goliath builds more and more nuclear weapons.
Israel has no nuclear weapons, made up story by media, Israel never stated that. Israel is laughing all the way to the bank with this story.
What happen to the cry in this posting “The US controls the world” I guess it doesn’t. But if your country posses 25% of the economy, but only 2.3% of the world populating, they must have done it some crooked way. If your country has that much economic power, that it achieved on its own hard work and ingenuity, it will automatically posses influence and power, if it wants it or not. Its sort of like our rich relative who can never give you enough because you think he is cheap.
Tehran has put its relations with Europe in the same Swiss basket where Washington exists with its lies.
. . .from PressTV:
It don’t matter. You have no choice but to cave in or start a war.
but Iran can bring up 1938 and the Munich Agreement and see that appeasement doesn’t work (as we say, every time a weaker nation faces our military).
Read about the psycho Biden picked for his Iranian Envoy.
https://consortiumnews.com/2021/03/09/biden-iran-envoy-boasted-of-causing-civilian-deprivation/
Just a few of the highlights:
“Nephew has described the destruction of Iran’s economy as “a tremendous success,”
“Entitled “The Art of Sanctions: A View From The Field,” the book’s cover image features two Caucasian hands drawing a rope for a noose, presumably to strangle some insufficiently pliant Global South government. Its contents read like a list of criminal confessions, detailing in chillingly clinical terms how the sanctions Nephew conceived from inside an air-conditioned office in Washington immiserated average Iranians.”
Nephew also patted himself on the back for tripling the price of chicken “during important Iranian holiday periods,” thereby “contribut[ing] to more popular frustration in one bank shot than years of financial restrictions.”
“In a fairly stunning admission, Nephew admits at one point that despite providing Iran with supposed humanitarian exceptions on U..S sanctions, the economic war he helped design caused a catastrophic shortage of medicine and medical devices, largely because average Iranians could not afford them.”
Where are YOUR links?
Seriously? You didn’t get “a few of the highlights”?
https://consortiumnews.com/2021/03/09/biden-iran-envoy-boasted-of-causing-civilian-deprivation/
Lie when told hundred times become a fact .
Crimes when committed numerous times with no interval – it become normal rung of the mill type ,standard unremarkable affairs .
Who talks of Abu Ghraib or the comment of the sanction -queen Madame Albright now? None. Because so many times since those democratic vale -laden utterances ,much worse crimes have been committed day after day night after night from Oct 2001.
So this man by name Ned Price can gloat away his crime, kiss his children and lie down in bed at peace with himself and his God.
None would have talked of Vietnam had we started enlarging and continuing the war to next countries for NeXT 20-30 years. That is the beauty of recidivism and repeated crimes
Its like bailout and tweaking the interest rate .Simple easy thoughtless maneuver with devastating effects .
What is remarkable is the adherence to the slogan “Dearth to America” by some as if word had become Logos- flesh and blood ,operating surreptitiously under the radar .While sanction kills and maims .
Your haltered for Jews has no limits. As Jew I expect that as normal from volks on this posting and most other postings, its nothing new for the past 2000 years since the Romans allegedly crucified the Jew, Jesus, that is if he actually existed,
Isn’t that a conundrum, they have the money to build the A-Bomb, money for a large Army, provide arms to Syria, Hezbollah, insurgencies in Africa, Yemen, Insurgency Militias in Iraq, who are trying to overthought a elected Government, remember, the Pope just visited that Government and people, were throngs of people lined the streets of Baghdad welcoming the Holy Father. They can buy all the medicines and medical equipment they need from China India. Food ? 30 % 26.7 million) of the population are farmers and they cant feed themselves. Without their oil exports Iran is an empty suit. Israel has not oil, has 1/10th of the population of Iran. has 1/50 the of the land mass of Iran, is 90% self sufficient in agriculture and is now net exporter of food products. To boot, Israel is 70 percent desert. Look at the map.
And we keep saying we have destroyed their economy and yet they are able so support half the god damned world according to you. Maybe we could get some pointers on how they do so much with so little. And whatever their oppressive government does with their money doesn’t change anything I posted from Ron’s link. Sanctions hurt ordinary folk and we know it. The parts I posted just shows how one sick fuck seems to enjoy that fact.
They can still sell lots of oil through the back door to China, Vienam, North Korea, Cuba, Pakistan, India,Venezuela (not a joke) and other African and Asian countries at bellow world prices.
So their economy hasn’t been devastated by our sanctions? And the common folk haven’t taken the brunt of the suffering?
“the economic war he helped design caused a catastrophic shortage of medicine and medical devices, largely because average Iranians could not afford them.”
How strong and developed can a country be if they canst figure out how to make aspirins.
One minute they are the scourge of the world and the next minute they are a weak, underdeveloped country that can’t make aspirin. Whatever works I guess.
What is your primary language?
English, fluent in German, Polish, conversational Hebrew, Spanish Yiddish.
English, fluent in German, Polish, conversational Hebrew, Spanish Yiddish.
Mother Goose nailed it.. .
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
All the king’s horses and all the king’s men
Couldn’t put Humpty together again.
[moderator’s note: Final opportunity to stop copying and pasting the same comment over and over. Next time, instead of just deleting the quasi-spam, I’ll ban you. This is a comments section, not a dumping ground for anyone who can hit control-V – TLK]
What will happen first? and When?
Close Guantanamo
Leave Afghanistan
Leave Syria
Leave Iraq
Remove sanctions on Iran
Realistic policy towards Saudi Arabia and Israel.
The answer of course is that none of these will ever happen.
They are all part of a coherent, albeit evil, consistent policy.
Also, let the Fox enter the henhouse.
It sure as hell isn’t my henhouse, and yet my taxes are paying for the fence.
Menendez is defying Biden over Iran because he owes his political life to Israel lobby and Saban
BY PHILIP WEISS MARCH 15, 2021
Bob Menendez is risking a war with Iran by opposing Biden on Iran deal. He owes as much to the right-wing Israel lobby, which saved his hide in 2015 when he opposed the deal, the Obama Justice Department indicted him for corruption, and Haim Saban and Seth Klarman supported his successful defense.
http://www.mondoweiss.net
Both you mentioned are Jews of course, but that’s what layers, based on the Constiturion.
Unilateral trashing of the JCPOA and bullying the rest of us into your illegal sanctions on Iran is OK but pulling your head out of your a..se and rejoining unilaterally is not? OK…
Dealing with Iran is not different than dealing with rebid dog also called dear leader of North Korea. Before you can even talk to these people , you throw them a piece of raw meat.
So much pig meat has been thrown to Israel from 1948 ,it still hasn’t changed it’s anti American and parasitic behaviors !
The only anti American I smell here is you.
Who cares what an apartheid, fanatically religious ,racist, colonizing violent regime supporting person says .
What kind of meat do you like.
Is the U.S still paying $100 or more for each gallon of fuel they burn there?1