Major fighting broke out in the Galwan Valley of Kashmir on Tuesday, when Indian and Chinese troops got into a skirmish along the line of control. China’s Foreign Ministry says the Indian troops crossed the border into China twice, and had attacked Chinese forces.
This was the worst fighting in decades in the area, despite ongoing disputes over the border demarcation. As many as 63 may have been killed in the fighting, including 20 Indian troops confirmed killed, and claims of up to 43 Chinese troops killed.
A lot of specifics are still uncertain, as India and China had long made a point that no gunfire had happened in the area in over 40 years, and India claimed today “no shots were fired” by either side, despite the rather high death toll. This was followed by quotes from locals that Chinese troops had fought with rocks and clubs and beat the Indians to death.
Chinese officials emphasized that they’d considered what happened to be a show of “restraint” and are now demanding that India stop all provocations and immediately return to dialogue. Indian officials held emergency meetings and discussed a retaliatory action against China.
India and Pakistan have long had substantial tensions over Kashmir, and China, a close Pakistani ally, is often talked about in the risk of a major war breaking out in the area. Though Pakistan was not reported at all involved in this, Pakistan may play a role in the Indian retaliation.
Tensions over the India-China border have been growing for years, but with both sides nuclear powers, and the border region relatively unimportant, the two sides have let matters simmer rather than risk open warfare. Now, it seems they may no longer have that option with both sides expected to do something.
Another India-China War would be so undesirable for everyone concerned that it seems like cooler heads will prevail. There is always a risk that the two sides will continue to escalate, however, and won’t be willing to negotiate seriously about the matter.
Dhalsim vs Fei Long LETS GOOOO!
As an Indian I can absolutely guarantee that anything the Indian armed forces say can be axiomatically taken to be a lie unless proved otherwise. According to the Indian fable, Indian troops sent to “negotiate” with China were attacked with “wired clubs and stones” and there was no gunfire. If we are to believe this, unarmed Indian soldiers taken by surprise killed 43 Chinese soldiers with their bare hands. Either the Indian army is lying about the circumstances, or the Indian army is lying about no gunfire, or the Indian army is lying about the 43 Chinese soldiers killed, or all of the above.
In any case this is an artificial crisis deliberately created by the Narendrabhai Damodardasbhai Modi regime to distract attention from its failures, from a catastrophic economic collapse even pre Covid, to a ruinous failed lockdown with massive unemployment and enormous hardship among poor people. Even then the regime suddenly fell silent after the Chinese did not withdraw as expected when the Indian army pushed up against them. Instead the Indian army began to make statements about solving the problem peacefully and reducing tensions. Then anti Modi media claimed that Modi had lost huge parts of Holy Indian territory to the Chinese. Right after that there was this incident and the Modi regime media is back to attacking China. This is by no means a coincidence. Nor is it new. It’s exactly the same thing the Nehru regime did in 1961-62, ending in a 30-day war in which the Chinese handed India its head on a platter.
What there will not be this time is a war. The Indian army isn’t strong enough to take on China alone, and the Imperalist States of Amerikastan isn’t going to commit suicide for the greater glory of Narendrabhai Damodardasbhai Modi.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/884d650ff03a91519e098ed708d8ad191b16a977b295e7330c3f137cd15e7f88.jpg
Seems so; … China does not seem to be particularly concerned; if any Chinese troops died, they might not be so restrained. If any Indian troops died, China likewise would be very concerned at the escalation and blaming India far more strongly…
Looks like Modi is doing his part to contain China and get paid, stumbling along not unlike Erdogan vs. Russia but a lot less kinetic.
The Indian stock market seems less than impressed, though…
https://www.reuters.com/article/india-stocks-idUSL4N2DT295
India is on a tight spot; they need Chinese and U.S. trade, not a Trump trade war and a Chinese trade freeze. They are also a member of the Commonwealth and Shanghai Cooperation Council.
Modi supposedly does yoga, but peaceful flexibility eludes him.
Coward Terrorist Indian Army & PM Modi, just created this drama to fool their people from all internal problems and get sympathy from already troubled President Trump & West Europeans, who fear Asian China’s economic strength and want India, also a rising economy to be crushed by Asian Giant – China, so, that American & West Europeans become strong by selling arms to India.
I do not understand why China, Russia, Iran, Pakistan have not yet set up an alliance like NATO.
Also, while outgunned and outnumbered, Pakistan soldiers fought with greater bravery than Indians in the 1965 war,
Indian incompetence in 1965 was incredible. One general, Niranjan Prasad – the commander of 4 Division in the 1962 war, as it happens, the unit that lost to the Chinese in the east – was even almost captured by the Pakistanis and left the entire Indian operational plans in his abandoned jeep to be retrieved by the Pakistani army. The most hilarious bit – and I say this as an Indian – is that to this day the Indian official myth is that India could have but deliberately didn’t capture Lahore (rather than just being too incompetent to cross the Icchogil Canal) and that we won the 1965 war. With even marginal competence India should have won in 1965.
Thanks GOD, You’re a knowledgeable person. Hopefully, they will have no choice but to form an alliance to counter Americans & Associates’ Terrorist Threats.
A Pakistani Economics Professor Saeed Ahmed in 1964 mentioned “DESTINY OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS IN THE HANDS OF CHINA”.
Shanghai Cooperation Organization, though including India with Pakistan’s entry in 2017.
India might still leave or be booted out, maybe, but Indian inclusion was likely to prevent any NATO-like provocation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation
At one point, Russia was considered as an ‘associate’ NATO member as part of its final integration with the West. Possibly, Russia took that far more seriously than than NATO did, but would have left China out.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-50945596
Right-wing Hindus think Modi walks on water being an incarnation of one of their gods.
No, they literally think he is a god. There are at least two Modi temples last I looked.
… Didn’t know things were like that in India…
India is a master at telling lies. It should know China is not Pakistan who it can bully. Modi should be before the ICC for the slaughter of 1500 Muslims whlle he was the honcho of the state in which that happened.
FREE KASHMIR!!!
“India” is a polygon on a map with 1.4 billion people living inside it. Don’t confuse those people with whatever gang happens to be lording it over them at any given moment.
1500?
It was significantly above 2500.
By the way, most Hindus reacted with disgust to Modi’s Gujarat pogrom. One of his close associates, Haren Pandya, testified against him, and was “mysteriously” shot dead very soon after.
I’m with you on freeing Kashmir. Isn’t it strange though that the only thing India and Pakistan are united about is that neither will permit a free Kashmir?
You’re right, but according to UN Security Council Resolution, Kashmir has to join either India or Pakistan, now, Americans & few West European countries, after realizing India’s Genocide, Heinous Crimes, Crucifying of Innocent Muslims of Kashmir, want to join Pakistan, so, they are Satanically putting third option of Independent Kashmir to Harm Pakistan. PERIOD.
Worst , it is doubly worst . Gujarat massacre was in response to a train being burnt down by Muslim. Both the initial and the final investigation blamed the fire to a possible accidental lighting of fire from inside the train by one of those pilgrims cooking inside the train from kerosene based portable lamp or other devices . It did not find any evidence of arson fire fire related damage from outside , neither on train track nor on outside train compartment .
It is also equally despicable because the riot that erupted in Gujarati had all the hall marks of being coordinated ,managed, and planned from the office of the Modi government.
Just google fifteen years after godhra train Hindustan times .
Euro globalism and U.S. imperial hegemony need to keep down these rising Asian giants; how better than to let India and China bleed one another.
However, Einstein clearly disputedly said, WW IV would be fought with sticks and stones, not start with sticks and stones….
So, at least we know there’s a cap on allowable weapons if this kicks off WW IV, assuming WW III was Cold War I.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/einstein-world-war-iv-sticks-stones/
India needs her marginal lebenstraum, and China’s border is a fraud because Tibet is not supposed to be Chinese.
Tibet has been Chinese for centuries and even the Brits in 1913, while trying to detach South Tibet from Tibet, acknowledged Chinese suzerainty over all of Tibet.
The Indian stand on the border is hypocritical and legally untenable. I’m Indian and I acknowledge that India is totally in the wrong.
I’m sure you are aware of Dr. Pravin Sawhney: https://twitter.com/PravinSawhney/
His videos on his Force Magazine youtube channel are excellent in explaining what’s going on.
You need to brush up on China-Tibet history. It’s pretty multifaceted and complex. And depending who one reads, it’s hard to know the facts.
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It’s very simple, but Chankia Policy practicing India always lies under the banner of American & West Europeans’ Anti-China Policy, remember, Britishers committed atrocities against & forced opium supply to China.
Note the semantic difference- killed vs. 43 “casualties” = injured + killed.
I notice in the bbc link that there’s a glacier adjacent to the conflict. Is this high, cold region really worth fighting over? We humans must really love war.