Two bills expected up for vote in the House of Representatives later this week, both of which express Congressional opposition to an unauthorized US war in Iran, are being condemned by President Trump in a statement out of the White House, in which he threatens to veto both.
One of the bills aims to reassert language that was removed from the final version of the NDAA by the Senate, which explicitly forbids funding of any war against Iran without Congressional authorization. The other would repeal the 2002 Authorization for the Use of Military Force on Iraq (AUMF), since officials have at times claimed it also covers Iran.
The White House statement claimed that the bills made war with Iran “more likely” because they undermine Trump’s ability to act against them. They promised a veto although neither is yet expected to even be voted on in the Senate, let alone passed.
A previous House resolution that was a War Powers challenge to attacking Iran had already passed, and was believed to have enough votes to pass the Senate. It is unclear when it will be brought up, however, as the Senate has since transitioned to the impeachment
In The Federalist Hamilton wrote that one of the fundamental difference between a King and the future US President would be that a King can start a war all by himself whereas the future US President would need Congressional approval. Can there be any clearer proof that President Trump considers himself the King of America if he vetoes this bill?
Even Dershowitz should agree that violating the US constitution is impeachable and a call for removal.
All you have to do is read John Woo’s crap on how the president actually has all this power to realize that Harvard trained lawyers have absolutely 0 ability to use critical thinking. It’s really an indictment of public education. at one point, while ‘proving’ the president was intended to have the authority of starting war, he quotes a passage from an anti-federalist clearly stating congress has all the war starting power, then just says the guy is lying about the Constitution giving congress said warpower…its as if this Harvard educated person has less critical thinking skills than I did coming out of middle school.
“0 ability to use critical thinking” ..maybe, unless corrupt profit motive is included as critical thinking.
Example..I knew a guy that had obtained a doctorate in some mathematics/statistical field. He parlayed this education into interpretation of science data concerning tobacco years ago. First, interpret it for the tobacco lobby, then for cancer organizations, depending on who is paying this quarter.
I am sure that factors in in many situations, but to present arguments that simply don’t make sense…. Not that Woo could cherry pick given that there is no cherry to find.
I don’t believe DJT wants any war with Iran, He knows well enough that it would be a total disaster, and would escalate into a 3rd World War. He wouldn’t veto any Congressional bills opposing war with Iran. Why? He isn’t suicidal (It would be suicidal to veto those bills).
The only ones who really want a war with Iran are the Trotskyists and Zionists, and also Israeli PM Bibi Nutty&Yahoo. These scumbags want to nuke Iran into a huge glass parking lot, that that’s not gonna happen.
” wouldn’t veto any Bill’s opposing war with iran”..I think he just said he would…certainly didn’t hesitate vetoing the Yemen bill, where that war has been a disaster for years. Dont get what you are basing your “belief ” on..
That’s a lot of rubbish. This proves that in substance the house never had the power of purse because the “president” would just veto anything he doesn’t like in the spending bill. And this goes back way beyond Trump presidency.
Then we should go back 20 presidents (at least), impeach them all after the fact, and wipe away ALL of the legislation they signed….because ALL have violated the Constitution in that manner and so many others. Boy, what a great country we would have if we did that.
Which war did President FDR start without Congressional approval
Ain’t democracy marvelous?
Endless wars for endless profits….regardless of which horrible tyrant is in power. How wonderful it is to live in the American Empire.
Does Senate have the balls to override…?!
Probably, and the ovaries to do it, too.
Muricans love wars as long as the wars are OVER THERE somewhere and other people’s kids are doing the fighting, the killing and the dying. They also love their bread and circuses like the Super Bowl, or as it’s known over at The Pentagon, Mercenary Military Recruitment Sunday.
“Mercenary Military Recruitment Sunday.”
That’s every Sunday. When veterans day rolls around, it’s even worse. And of course football isn’t alone. You can’t watch a baseball game without hearing about our “hero” troops. Plus during the seventh inning stretch you can sing along with “God Bless America” if you haven’t had your fill of jingoism.
And America’s Christian Churches (you know, the one’s supposedly dedicated to the “prince of peace”) are just as horrible with their worship of veterans and all things military.
Quite ridiculous. Even if that resolution survives by a veto override, all the Liberal interventionist/neocon warmongers in the Security State will have to do is create a pretense like a ship attack, a slam dunk report on Iran’s WMD, or anything similar, and the compliant Congress will vote for that war.
The Senate is even more unrepresentative of US citizens than the House is-no wonder the chance of this bill passing is almost zero. The Republican majority is not at all based on the voting numbers in each State because of the lopsided gerrymandered system. To pretend Iran is a danger to the USA when it is always the USA which attacks, sanctions, threatens, withdraws from international agreements, is grossly misleading and follows the lead of the only possible “winner”, Israel’s charged criminal,Natanyahu. The USA is another loser.
“The Senate is even more unrepresentative of US citizens than the House”
That’s an odd claim.
House members are elected from districts gerrymandered to favor particular parties.
Senate members are elected at large by the entire voting population of their states.
How is the latter “more unrepresentative” than the former?
Reading all these divided comments it looks anyone including myself knows what is the best solution to prevent all out war.