President Trump has raised the possibility of talking with Iran, and there continues to be a lot of speculation about the possibility, particularly after reports in the Israeli press about how seriously concerned Israel is about a Trump-Iran negotiation.
Trump has raised the possibility of such talks before, and with Iran wanting sanctions relief, while
Trump insists Iran will get nothing, it’s unlikely anything will come
of it. Still it has scrambled a lot of anti-diplomacy efforts.
Israel is a clear opponent of diplomacy with Iran, and would be in a
rough position after praising Trump to the moon if he started such
talks. They’re hardly alone, however, as the Saudi Crown Prince has
dispatched his younger brother to DC this week.
Deputy DM Khalid bin Salman is being sent to the US specifically to express “common concerns”
between the US and Saudis about Iran, and it seems likely that a big
part will be trying to sell the US on continuing to spurn diplomacy.
At the G7, Trump likely heard broad support from other attendees for
diplomacy, and while talks aren’t likely to spring out of thin air, it
seems clear that these other nations are going to line up and try to
sway the balance back to its traditional hostility to Iran.
Maybe Iran sent Trump one of those “beautiful letters” he likes so much.
Trump of Superlatives. What a nut-job.
Who is Trump to decide if America should go to war with Iran?The call will be taken by Sheldon Adelson, David Horowtz, (Jeffry Epstien is not seen around or else would have been a part of it) and others in consultation with Netinyahu. Trump is over reaching himself and probably a kick on the face by Netinyahu as in the case of Bush and Obama may be required.
Who’s the POTUS, Joji? It’s DJT, and he’s already setting up talks with his Iranian counterpart, Rouhani. BTW, he’s been planning these talks for some time now. He knows exactly what he’s doing, as he’s no dummy. Just remember, he has an IQ of 135, which is in the genius category; plus, he’s been a businessman for 40 years, before he ran for the presidency and won.
The dummies here are the warmongers themselves, as are the leaders of Israel and Saudi Arabia .. They have no clue as to what DJT’s really doing. He’s going to meet with Rouhani sometime soon at an undisclosed location and discuss peace, which the Iranian Gov’t also wants.
I almost puked.
How much for ten of those little paper squares you’re eating?
DJT. He may be intelligent. .Good business man, agreed.. But he is a Zionist. Hard core one..
Why bring in Saudi Arabia.It is of no consequence.
( BB is watching me )
The practitioners of apartheid and those responsible for 9/11 need only have to look at how the NK talks are going and how we want total capitulation up front before we’ll give anything. In other words, there isn’t a damn thing to be worried about.
“Nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests.”
George Washington Farewell Address
At this point what actually happens is pretty much a wild card.
Just theater to shake the appearance that BiBi has Trump on his knees.
Paying close attention to Saudis I do not see from the beginning of this crisis any effort on their part to take a prominent role. Or almost any role. From the very beginning — the meetings of GCC and Organization of Islamic States, it was clear that only King was to participate. And then he only echoed Pompeo’s lines on Iran. To make it more intriguing, Saudis invited Qatar, knowing full well that Qatar was not going to agree to any final statement. Then the OIC did not even mention Iran in final
statement. Following ship sabotage, UAE did not point out to culprit — and US was furious. Bottom line — there is not a single sharp note coming from Saudi Arabia. Both UAE and Saudis are busy sorting out Yemen. And then sending MBS brother to Washington. If it is consistent with Saudi long known position on Iran — he would have sent Foreign Minister. But keeping it “inside family” is telling that Saudis are not going to discourage Trump.
Israel’s crazed behavior may testify to the fact that not everything is to their liking.
I cannot see Saudi policy at this time go counter to Russia and China. With Russia Saudis have growing commercial interests, and China is their major buyer. Saudis are focus on domestic reforms, and major economic development. Massive new projects are under way. If one adds to this the fact that US trued to declare King demented — in order to hasten jus departure in favor of US favorite, Crown Prince Muhammed Bin Nayaf. The US policies that Nayaf pushed were bankrupting the Kingdom, particularly Wahhabi funded Salafi groups in the Middle East. As a result, in a palace coup MBN was removed and King’s son, MBS appointed. From that point on it became clear that King is far from demented, King took a 2,000 strong delegation to Moscow to sign dozens of deals.
MBS was blamed for everything, especially things that were decided before his coming to power in June 2017. Then came the attempt to push him out via convenient Kashoggi murder. Did not work, and his power in the Kingdom consolidated.
Let us test our IQ — following the abuse he and his father received at the hands of Washington establishment, including Congressional actions, how likely is that this ruling father-son combination will oblige the Washington Iran hawks by doing dirty work for them? And waste their money on wars, instead of ambitious domestic development plan. There are just too many factors that give pause — one of them being Iran’s alliance with Russia and China. Military implications may have been explained to Saudis. And considering non-existent reaction from UAE on tanker sabotage, unwillingness by Kuwait, Iraq, Oman to be involved, and Bahrain’s 80%Shia population not a military powerhouse. These are all pauses.
Who knows how many crazy stunts Israel can pull to force war, but everything points out now to some form of a stalemate made to look meaningful.
Last time Iran talked, the US agreed, Iran followed through on their promises and the US didn’t and actively campaigned for all other nations involved to break their promises as well. I wonder what sort of nightmare talking will get the Iranians this time? Trump’s promise of “nothing” is the best-case scenario it seems.