Speaking on Afghanistan, President Trump remained non-committal on the
peace plan being negotiated with the Taliban, continuing to say only
that “we’ll see what happens.” He did, however, point toward clearly
being inclined to end the war.
Trump says that after 18 years the US is “not really fighting” in
Afghanistan, but rather acting as a “ridiculous” police force, adding “we’re not supposed to be a police force.”
All indications are that the Afghan peace deal is all set to go, and
Trump was briefed on the matter on Friday. Exactly what his position is,
however, still isn’t entirely clear, as he both talks down the merits
of staying but emphasizes his willingness to keep troops there.
On top of that, Trump also felt the need to reiterate his claim that he could “win” Afghanistan within a week if he really wanted to, but that it would involve killing 10 million people and “I’m not looking to do that.”
Afghan officials didn’t react well last time Trump suggested this was an
option. Trump now emphasizes that this would be a non-nuclear effort,
though he did not elaborate how the US would kill 10 million people in a
single week without nuclear arms.
I guess his base enjoys repeated casual threats of mass murder?
His base does not appreciate the gravitas of the POTUS making “bar talk” to the World.
Either that, or they revel in it. They love him trolling anyone who’s not a True Believer.
No, his base voted for ending wars, not talking about ending wars. We are still in Syria. Still in Afghanistan m, Iraq and Libya. Snd every other place we ever went into after WWII.
We went out of Lebanon and Israel tried three times to rectify thar. Syria was meant to be a more comprehensive method of fixing that mistake.
Since he has proven to be anything but an anti-interventionist, or anything resembling pro liberty, that must mean he shouldn’t garner but a handful of votes come 2020.
The only voters likely to switch from spanky over anti- interventionism post on antiwar.com. The ” peace train” trump voter is a delusion.
“We” went out of Lebanon because we shouldn’t have been there in the first place.
Israel went in three times, the first two time because they wanted to suppress the Palestinians more forcefully, and the last time because they wanted to get rid of Hezbollah which is the only thing stopping them from starting a war with Iran.
Syria was meant to be a removal of an enemy of Israel as well as to allow them to cross Syrian territory to attack Hezbollah in Lebanon.
The entire history of the US in the Middle East for the last seventy years is to obtain hegemony over the oil for the US and for Israel and thus to have a choke hold on the world. And the US is still at it and will never stop until the US and the Middle East are destroyed.
Well, 0bama’s base believed him when he promised a withdrawal by 2014, so there is that.
So Obama’s base is as willfully ignorant as Trump’s. So what?
Butteremails…….
No good choices, that’s what.
No longer on Trump’s bandwagon? Good for you.
He’s still the best of available choices but
he needs to end the Afghany fiasco, fast.
That trump is the best the gop can muster is pathetic beyond belief. The arguement against democracy.
Sure Dave,
as if anyone of the clowns from the Dem0crat asylum have a hint of a clue.
You don’t even know who the other choices are.
We do, all of the Dem announced candidates and maybe William Weld or Buenos Aires Sanford in a primary challenge against Trump.
All ridiculous in a variety of ways.
Have I missed your choice?
I was talking about the ballot. My choice is Tulsi Gabbard who won’t be on the ballot. But I haven’t heard any democrats condone torture or want to fill up Gitmo so right there every one of them is better than Trump. Add his undying loyalty to a foreign country(actually two now along with the Saudis)and his love of destroying countries with sanctions and even Biden is his equal.
I grant you Tulsi is the best of the Dem’s, but that won’t happen this time.
Re. all the other existential issues, the economy, trade, jobs etc. the Dem’s are nuts.
What’s wrong with GITMO, where would you put those mutants?
“Condone torture”, he said hypothetically he would support water-boarding terrorists, but hasn’t. So far it was nothing but tough talk.
Good luck wars, he will be reelected.
“What’s wrong with GITMO, where would you put those mutants?”
The ones who have never been charged with, let alone convicted of, crimes, you mean?
I’d put them back where they belong — at their homes — with hefty settlements for their illegal and immoral abductions.
Including KSM mastermind of 911?
Politically, for anyone, I don’t think that would fly.
KSM has been charged with numerous crimes, including 2,973 individual counts of murder. And he would probably be convicted if the US government would follow the damn law and actually try him in a real court instead of delaying for (so far) 12 years trying to do it by illegal tribunal.
The ones who should be sent home and hit the settlement jackpot are the ones who haven’t ever been charged with a crime.
I don’t know of any Dem or Repub who would/could do that.
I’d support a trial,
sentencing and/or release (with compensation) if found innocent.
“I’d support a trial”
In order for there to be a trial, there first has to be a charge.
Of course.
The correct legal process should be administered.
However, neither the Repubs or Dem’s even mention GITMO or the need for an adjudication.
Therefore using this issue against Trump,
while their isn’t any other candidate interested,
seems to render the issue moot.
Every human being deserves a trial. Even “mutants”.
Trump said that he would “immediately” resume waterboarding and other techniques that are “much worse” because the United States is facing a barbaric enemy. He called waterboarding a “minor form” of interrogation. “Some people say it’s not actually torture – let’s assume it is,” Trump said.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/donald-trump-says-torture-works-backs-waterboarding-and-much-worse-1278645
Now you can say that he actually hasn’t done any of those things as of yet but that doesn’t change the fact that he believes it to work. Personally, that’s sick enough for me.
He also said he would obliterate North Korea and Iran multiple times besides this latest boast about wasting 10 million people in a week if he really wanted to. Add that to suggesting the execution of Edward Snowden and pardoning war criminals while Chelsea Manning sat in prison.
Exactly what would keep you from voting for this assclown?
It’s “tough” talk.
It’s part of his negotiation style, act tough, it scares your opponents.
None of this matters, he isn’t going to do any of it.
Now opening the borders to EVERYBODY,
govt paying for EVERYTHING and
controlling the lives of citizens down to the settings on your thermostat, govt. rationed healthcare, diet, confiscatory taxation, govt indoctrination public schooling, big tech mind control, eliminating “free speech”,
the 2nd A.
those authoritarian controls matter.
He believes torture works. It’s not a negotiating tactic and he would be using it if he could.
The republicans got their money for the military and the democrats got their money for domestic spending. $1.48 goes to the military. Please don’t talk about the democrats being the only ones wanting to spend stupidly.
And I didn’t know the govt. no longer controlled our lives since Trump took over. The NSA is gone? No more Homeland security? No TSA? And does free speech include players kneeling for the anthem or is it up to king Donald to decide when we can use our first amendment rights? And I guess calling whistleblowers traitors who should be executed is your idea of the Donald releasing the shackles on our right to speak out against government wrongdoing?
I’d bet torture would work on you. And frankly it did work on KSM, so he has a point. But has he used it? Doubtful.
I always criticize the Repub’s for spending as profligate as Dem’s.
I would support a 5% year over year cuts for both domestic and military spending.
The govt controls far too much of our lives now, but listening to any of the Dem0crat clowns demand 1984 style control is insane.
Nobody stopped the players from kneeling, some are still doing it. Trump just denounced it, he has a right to his opinion and free speech,
why the freak out?
Manning was tried and convicted, then pardoned by 0bama.
The fact he was convicted gives room for Trump to call him a traitor, free speech again.
Trump and I have a disagreement re Snowden, I think Ed is a national hero.
I’m sure torture would work on me. Waterboard me and I’d admit to any crime you’d want me to. Thanks for making my point. KSM was waterboarded repeatedly. I’m wondering which confession they used. He was probably taking responsible for the Lindbergh baby kidnapping by the time they were done with him.
Trump didn’t just “denounce” the kneeling players. He demanded the NFL take action against them and said Goodell was weak. He even suggested what the punishment should be.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nfl-national-anthem-protest-policy-2018-7/
Obama did not pardon Manning. Commuting a sentence isn’t a pardon. And yes Trump does have the right to call Manning a traitor. The fact that he does call HER that should bother you but I guess your continued backing of Trump means you have to ignore such things. Or that you agree with him.
Difference between Snowden and Manning? One’s a national hero and the other is what?
You don’t believe KSM’s admissions?
Everyone who matters does. He’s statements would have to match the facts that are known. And that is the point.
Trump’s “demands” have no legal authority over the NFL, and in fact they did not acquiesce.
Trump can rant, but he can’t do much else re. NFL kneeling.
Correct “commuted” Manning’s sentence but, nevertheless,
beside the point.
Manning was convicted, hence Trump has grounds to call him a “traitor”.
Re. calling her, her, that is their business, not mine.
I call him just another “gender confused” nut-job.
Manning, as a soldier, stole confidential military info, which was announced to the world,
endangering the lives of service members.
Manning, was a “whistle-blower” re. NSA’s violating statue and policy against citizen’s privacy rights.
It doesn’t matter whether I believe KSM’s statements, they were coerced with torture. If they strapped you to a board and simulated drowning you’d tell them ANYTHING they wanted to know. You just don’t get it.
Trump’s demands showed that he doesn’t give a damn about free speech. He wanted the NFL to fire players if they didn’t cease and desist kneeling for the anthem. “Denouncing” them is hardly the same.
Again you’re defending Trump for calling Manning a traitor. Manning was a whistleblower who exposed war crimes in that war that Trump was so against. You’re suppose to be giving arguments why Trump is a better choice and you’re failing badly.
Snowden was accused of doing the same thing as Manning, endangering America and American lives. Trump called him a traitor and that we should execute him. Again, what is the difference? Could it be this: “Re. calling her, her, that is their business, not mine. I call him just another “gender confused” nut-job.”
So you argue that Trump is the better choice and then base that on the fact that he calls whistle blowers “traitors”. He doesn’t believe in free speech unless it fits in with his jingoistic views. Talks flippantly about killing 10 million people in a week and obliterating countries like he’s planning a lunch date. He’s for torture who even the despicable John McCain denounced. He’s a bigot towards transgender people, oh wait that was you. I now understand why you think Trump is the better choice, he’s just like YOU.
So angry wars, not healthy.
KSM murdered 3K Americans, water boarding is part of SEAL training.
Do we “torture” our own recruits? I think not. Is it uncomfortable, h3ll yes.
It’s limited, physician assisted, and at times necessary. Man up.
Trump can “demand” whatever he wants, but he can’t compel (and didn’t) the NFL do do what he wants. Everybody, the players, owners and president, exercised free speech, as it should be.
Trump, who I have many disagreements with, is simply a light-year better than rest of the field. That does not make him my ideal candidate.
Manning was a soldier who released secret military info. That’s different from a civilian whistle-blowing on the NSA who was in violation of it’s mandated legal limitations.
Trump handles the economy, jobs, taxes, trade, and international affairs better than any of the pipsqueaks running against him, that’s all.
Even with your numerous shortcomings I bet you would fair better than most of these so-called challengers.
You can’t name a better candidate, except Tulsi, who doesn’t have a prayer in the DNC RIGGED primary system.
Brace yourself, Trump will win 2020 because Biden, Bernie and Warren are basically nuts.
“Do we ‘torture’ our own recruits? I think not.”
Correct — if you think waterboarding isn’t torture, that thing you’re doing that you think is thinking isn’t.
“KSM murdered 3K Americans, water boarding is part of SEAL training.”
God I love this. First mention that KSM killed all those Americans all by his lonesome and then bring up our bad ass SEALs who think waterboarding is no more of an annoyance than a mosquito bite. Torture good.
“It’s limited, physician assisted, and at times necessary. Man up.”
It’s immoral, it doesn’t work and if you think it’s physician aided you are a complete tool. And again with the macho reference to “man up”. Torture is ok to real men.
“Trump can “demand” whatever he wants, but he can’t compel (and didn’t) the NFL do do what he wants.”
The fact that the NFL didn’t listen to his demands doesn’t take away from the fact that Trump, in fact, made those demands. If he was a free speech advocate, he wouldn’t have made ANY demands.
” Manning was a soldier who released secret military info. That’s different from a civilian whistle-blowing on the NSA who was in violation of it’s mandated legal limitations.”
Manning was a soldier who exposed American war crimes in a war that never met any legal standards from its beginning. She is as much of a hero as Edward Snowden. But again, you argue that Trump calling someone who exposed our war crimes a traitor apparently shouldn’t be used negatively when judging him. Says a lot about you.
Trump better hope he’s running against Biden.
Nobody, none of the Dem candidates gives a nano second of “thought” to the GITMO prisoners, which = politically moot.
Trump can say what he wants, nobody is forced to comply.
Manning betrayed his fellow soldiers and was almost convicted of supporting the enemy.
Snowden outted the NSA who were violating the law.
There isn’t anyone of the declared lunatics
(green new deal and free everything)
that would be better than Trump and the general population knows it.
They are all ONE TRICK Santa’s,
“I’ll give you more free stuff than the others!”
Pathetic.
Manning is pretty much the sole US military heroine of the 21st century. Others obeyed unlawful orders. She exposed war crimes. In a just world she’d have received a field commission at the same time the formation was held for the award of her Distinguished Service Cross.
None of the Dems gleefully talked about filling Gitmo like Trump has. I thought we were suppose to be comparing.
Trump is against free speech if he thinks players should be punished for exercising their first amendment rights. I haven’t heard any dems saying NFL players should be fined or suspended for kneeling like Trump has suggested. Again, I thought we were comparing.
Manning outted war criminals. She’s a hero like Snowden. Absolutely no difference.
Trump is doing a lousy job and any one of the “lunatics” would be just as capable of Trumps lousiness. We’d just be minus the theatrics of a rambling moron.
I haven’t heard Trump say much about GITMO.
I’m sure he approves but his approval isn’t controversial, it’s old news.
Trump expressed his outrage and
what he believes the NFL should do, but …,
they, …DIDN’T, lol.
PS: players are still kneeling.
PSS: at your job, if you start spouting politics or religion,
someone will call HR.
While you are paid and WORKING for someone else you have to follow the “conditions of employment”, ditto the NFL.
Manning took an oath to this nation and his military colleagues,
then endangered them by spilling on them.
Snowden, was hired as a contractor to follow the law, he outted the NSA
not the military, a clandestine spook-shop spying on American citizens.
Manning = endangering US citizens;
Snowden = protecting US citizens.
Trump’s economy is better than any since Clinton.
Record high employment overall, and for blacks Hispanics and women.
Record high stock market, how is your 401K? If you have one.
Manufacturing jobs up, middle-class wages finally growing. tax CUTS for a change.
China held to account for “intellectual property” thefts, a continuous $500 BILLION dollar trade imbalance in their favor for over a decade!
No MORE!
So far, I see no one even close to Trump in 2020.
The more I talk with you the more disgusted I get. I forgot you were the one who said John Bolton and Nikki Haley were someone you respected. So it shouldn’t surprise anyone that you’re pro torture, anti-liberty and think Chelsea Manning did something wrong. You and Trump deserve one another.
Neither Bolton or Haley have started any wars
like you said they would.
No one was prosecuted for water-boarding KSM during the 8 years of 0bama’s admin because, by definition, it wasn’t “torture”.
I support liberty for the American people and therefore support Snowden.
Manning was a traitor to his country.
Trump is far from ideal but matched against the Social-Fascists of the Dem Party he looks very good.
Bolton and Haley don’t have the authority to “start” wars so I never said that. You on the other hand, said you respected them both.
If Iran captured an American soldier in the Straits and waterboarded him/her for information, you wouldn’t have a problem with that, right?
Manning is a heroine as Thomas Knapp alluded to(which you ignored). You are obviously pro war if you think her exposing war crimes to be anything less. But I think your main problem with Manning is the fact that you just can’t handle transgenders. Not surprising.
One thing our conversation has convinced me to do and that is to vote for whatever democrat candidate runs against Trump just to cancel your vote. EVEN BIDEN.
Bolten and Haley are/were nothing more than advisers to a president who
consistently employs a good/bad cop approach. They are/were always on Trump’s leash.
Water boarding is an extreme measure to only be used in extreme circumstances. Why do you suppose SEAL training includes it?
After considerable reading re. Manning I have changed my opinion.
He (he was a he while in the military) did the right thing. He exposed criminal behavior on the part of the US military. I now regard him as a patriotic whistle-blower just like Snowden. The truth matters more than anything else, and he exposed it.
I really don’t care about her gender decision, it’s irrelevant.
And re. your vote, LOL, you would never vote for Trump anyway, no lose.
You’d vote Green Party or Communist if you couldn’t stomach the Dem.
Bolton and Haley are despicable human beings who you said you respected and that says everything about you.
You didn’t answer my question. Would it be ok for Iran to waterboard an American soldier? Of course that would only be the “limited, physician assisted and at times necessary” kind that we employ.
So you just NOW read up on Chelsea Manning and you no longer have a problem with the “nut job, traitor”? You’re not very good at lying.
You missed my point, or ignored it. Again. I will now vote for ANY dem running against Trump just to cancel your vote for Trump.
We disagree re. Bolton and Hailey and
of course water boarding should not be commonly used by anybody. However, in extreme cases, like KSM,
where finding an existential enemy like OBL responsible for 911,
H3LL YES!
Our disagreement on Bolton and Haley has been established. I find them despicable and you find them respectable.
So that is a yes on Iran being allowed to waterboard an American sailor for information if they feel threatened by an existential enemy? And of course I mean the physician assisted kind that we administer.
Iran and their surrogates
have no compunctions whatsoever to use water boarding and far worse to attain their goals.
Your Marquis de Queensbury
virtue-signalling limitations when confronted by the pure evil of 911,
only makes you their chump.
So I guess you just don’t want to answer the question. Just can’t bring yourself to admit that you think we have the right to torture while others don’t? Otherwise it should be easy to answer.
It would be helpful if you could articulate the question.
Water boarding is not torture.
The legal breakdown was given in the Mulkasey clip I sent you.
Water boarding is a “HARSH interrogation” method that I believe must be authorized in only the most extreme cases and allowed by the highest authority, the president himself.
KSM is the one example that comes to mind.
Waterboarding is torture. Period.
Mulkasey disagrees.
And no one was prosecuted even while 0bama had 8 years to do so.
On what grounds do you hold that opinion
other than your personal belief?
Have someone strap you on a board and simulate drowning your ass and you let us know if you think it’s torture. Mulkasky disagrees but he admitted that if he were being waterboarded, he’d think it to be torture. It was torture when the Japanese used it. Changing the law to allow waterboarding doesn’t make it less than torture any more than Obama calling our Libya excursion a “kinetic action” made that less than a war.
It all hinges on the LEGAL definition, 3 former AG’s have said it was permissible under certain safeguards.
https://www.rt.com/usa/338318-waterboarding-torture-hayden-evasive/
And if those 3 former AG’s were strapped to a board and had water poured down their throats they’d change their minds in a minute. Right after they went and changed their underwear. Making something legal to protect your own ass hardly changing the meaning of that which was made legal. In this case, waterboarding.
Sleep deprivation, being forced to listen to Molly Hatchet all day long,
forced to survive on only MacDonald’s “happy meals” could all be called “torture”, square up to the LEGAL definition,
because everything else is subjective.
I’m tired of arguing about something that no longer is used by the USA.
It’s meaningless. The economy, jobs, international affairs are important and open for debate. I’m done with the waterboarding issue because everyone else, except you, is done with it.
I’m also tired of arguing with someone who bases their argument solely on the government making something legal to protect themselves.
So on this topic we are done.
However, the law they followed predates the waterboarding.
So no they didn’t “make something up” to cover it.
It doesn’t matter when the law was made. It was done for the same reason regardless when it was done.
Sure.
Which LEGAL definition? The one the US used to hang Japanese generals who ordered it on American POWs, or the one US regime flacks used to justify the line “well, if it’s US doing it, it’s not torture?”
The legal definition that was applicable when it was being used.
I asked you if Iran should be allowed to use waterboarding on an American soldier. And since you don’t believe it’s torture, the answer should be easy.
No country should allow water boarding unless there is an extreme reason to do so. And it should not be employed unless reviewed and allowed by that country’s highest authority.
It’s easy, you just don’t like it.
So, once again. Should Iran be allowed to use waterboarding on an American soldier? Of course that’s only following the criteria that you set forth.
Again —-IF—-Iran used it ONLY under the same circumstances and with medical safeguards like the US does, yes. That’s why SEAL training includes waterboarding.
Your hypothetical of course would never happen because Iran wouldn’t hesitate a wit against using it.
What delusion are you under to repeatedly say the US uses medical safeguards when they torture people? Do you actually think the CIA gives a rats ass about any type of safeguards when they have someone strapped to a board in some far away blacksite? You can’t be that naïve.
And neither would we hesitate to using it. You don’t think KSM was the only one we waterboarded or used “enhanced interrogations” on, do you?
Not “torture” not by the definition at that time,
and yes the waterboarding did have medical supervision.
I think the CIA does give a rat’s azz about effective interrogation,
therefore they did not want to lose their asset.
There were 2 other high value AQ combatants that got waterboarded.
KSM, incidentally, is not only accused of master-minding 911 but also personally killing 40 people by cutting off their heads.
You believe anything the CIA spoon feeds you I guess. Medical supervision? What Hippocratic oath did those doctors take? Overseeing simulated drownings? Sounds like the top of the line of our medical profession.
Probably the same one’s who would kill a baby after it’s born, just because.
KSM admitted to murdering Daniel Pearl.
I wonder what his family thinks about KSM’s harsh treatment?
I get it now. He deserved it because he’s a murderer. Ok never mind. Waterboarding isn’t torture if the guy is guilty.
Waterboarding isn’t “torture” unless it’s defined as such.
It wasn’t.
Please find a topic that is relevant,
you have beat this horse to death.
Strapping someone to a board and forcing water down their throat is torture. You know it as well as I do. But you give the government a pass because they changed the definition which allowed waterboarding to no longer considered torture. It was torture when the Japanese used it so what changed? Nothing. And I’ll keep this conversation going until the cows come home. It might not be relevant to you but when the nut job in the white house condones it, it’s relevant to me.
It’s no longer an issue,
it is now prevented by an 0bama EO,
have fun taking to your mirror. Adios
Thank you, I will have fun talking to my mirror. It’s civilized and doesn’t believe humans should be strapped to a board and have water forced down their throats to simulate drowning.
You’re welcome.
Your mirror likes agreeing with you every time.
And it also likes to defend the monsters that savage the innocent across the globe.
While they receive your virtue-signalling protection, detached from the harsh realities of having your throat slit, the act posted worldwide.
You live in a Disneyland bubble, enjoy it while you can.
Not for long.
I didn’t defend anyone. ANYONE who tortures is as uncivilized as we are. If you think torture is a necessity to keep your throat from being slit, you are a bigger idiot than I thought you were.
Reality is “harsh”. Even 0bama’s Panetta finally agrees waterboarding did the trick that got OBL.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8491509/Osama-bin-Laden-killed-CIA-admits-waterboarding-yielded-vital-information.html
“Whether we would have gotten the same information through other approaches I think is always gonna be an open question”
Not that I care what a thug like Panetta has to say and it’s really irrelevant anyway. Civilized people don’t torture.
He earlier denied it,
later we got this equivocation.
He knows damned well getting OBL’s couriers nickname, led to OBL
he’s giving himself cover here.
It’s an UNcivilized world (always has been, always will be)
but the US is the most civilized in the world.
The world of AQ wouldn’t hesitate to kill you just for yucks.
They don’t play by your rules of cricket.
I said it was irrelevant anyway. You’re just too damn thick to understand that. Torture is wrong(always has been, always will be).
Yeah after they pulled another 911,
because you didn’t want their lead guy waterboarded,
(that’s “relevant”),
how proud would you be then?
Out.
Now you’re just being ridiculous. Your imagination is getting the better of you. You must have watched a lot of “24”.
“No country should allow water boarding. Any government employee or contractor who orders, signs off on, or participates in waterboarding should be subject to life imprisonment or execution.”
Fixed, no charge.
Subjective, and therefore irrelevant.
..
AG Mulkasey explains.
Reread your 2nd sentence, “an existential”?
So Mulkasey thinks if he got waterboarded it would be torture but since we made it legal, it isn’t torture.
Nice whataboutism. There’s more than a fine line between saying you’ll withdraw troops and casually mentioning that you could kill ten million people, but you won’t. One is a broken campaign promise, the other is a Mao-Stalinesque fever dream.
If it’s about what the POTUS says, I don’t recall any applause here for Obama saying in 2016 that he wanted Congress to end the war on terror authorization. For good reason, what they say means nothing. Analysis of what trump dribbles out is pointless, still waiting for a single troop from anywhere in the world, including the southern border, to be sent home.
Nice does’ntmatterism. Either way, we are still there.
Same with Obomber.
Afghan fighters will keep scrubbing until the foreign stench is gone.
? !
This certainly doesn’t sound like a Commander in Chief talking, more like the musings of Nero as he contemplates burning the joint down… Or, not. If we make it through the next few months without WWIII and nuclear annihilation it will be an f-ing miracle.
10 million in a week without nukes? That’s a little over 1.4 million per day. Call me skeptical.
“It’ll be the biggest murder crowd ever”
Remember, he doesn’t say what he means, exactly, you have to kind of divine for yourself what he might have meant when he says something. We’ve got a regular William S Burroughs in the Oval Office!
Sounds like Vogon poetry to me…..
Maybe that’s it. The base are he only ones with Babel fishes in their ears and the rest of us had nothing but gibberish.
“A running man can cut four thousand throats in a single night” (Klingon proverb), so 357 running men could do it in a week of nights.
“We’ll always have intelligence and we’ll always have someone there,” Trump said during an unscheduled press conference with Romanian President Klaus Iohannis on Tuesday. “That does seem to be the Harvard University of terrorism. So we’ll always have someone there.”
I guess nobody has told Trump about the CIA’s poppy fields (one of the REAL reasons we are there). And let’s not forget, every bullet fired is another dollar of profit for someone in the MIC.
“I guess nobody has told Trump about the CIA’s poppy fields (one of the REAL reasons we are there)”
The CIA needs a nice hotel with a golf course to stay at when it’s time to break some Afghani knees every now and then.
He calls it “leverage” in the book someone wrote for him…. it’s abundantly clear that he does nothing without maximizing personal gain above all else.
So ridiculous spanky added 7000 combat troops in 2017……
That’s just more 6D chess, Dave…… https://media3.giphy.com/media/ukqGiN7WnYxxn7q3sE/giphy.gif
And right under this article is the one headlined “Trump promises continued US presence in Afghanistan amid withdrawal talks”.
So once again Trump contradicts himself on the same day or within 24 hours.
When are you Trump supporter clowns realize that he is doing to you what every President for the last half century at least has done – lie to your face? He doesn’t care what lame statements he throws out on any given day because he knows you can’t do anything about it but either cheer or moan.
Perhaps Trump is holding out on a peace deal until the timing is right for November 2020
Trump’s foreign policy in two sentences: Trump: US Role in Afghanistan ‘ridiculous’ Trump Promises Continued US Presence in Afghanistan…
derp
Ridiculous=Trump
This guy is f**king useless. The problem is he doesn’t actually believe in anything. All his views are based on what he thinks will make him look like a bad-ass. I use to hold out a grain of hope that guys like Rand Paul and Tucker Carlson could convince Donny that peace was bad-ass, but he has the attention span of a cocker spaniel on crystal meth. Everything he “believes” he will be against and everything he’s against he will believe. He’s quite simply pathologically unwell. Maybe there should be Red Flag Laws for the White House. Then again, who would ever be elected? Wait, did I just solve anarchism?
If we leave Afghanistan who will guard the poppy fields? Like the English Red Coats in the Opium Wars, the US has just become dumb mercenary muscle for global crime cartels. What was the slogan a while back?
Something like: The US Navy… A Global Force for Sale?
I’m not a Trump guy, but he does have a point with the “ridicules” comment.
The US, Australia and NATO presence in Afghanistan has nothing to do with bringing freedom and democracy, and fighting terrorism.
It is true that some of the reasons like the opium fields, natural resources etc are reasons for their presence.
Most people fail to see this. The main reason why the US, Australia and NATO presence is because it is located at a military strategic point.
Let us look at the map of Afghanistan, it borders with Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Iran, Pakistan, and China. All these countries that the US, Australia and NATO wants to regime-change and have future wars with.
Afghanistan is also a good to strategic location for military, airforce and intercontinental nuclear missles to target Russia and China, as well as deploying anti-ballistic missile defense system, where the US, Australia and NATO have already planned future wars with.
Afghanistan is also been used by US, Australia and NATO to bring in IS and their affliates to do terrorist attacks in Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Iran, Pakistan, and China.
Do people know the US, Australia and NATO is secretly bringing Uigher terrorist groups (under the false pretext that they were victims of China government oppression) in and out at Afghan border?
To prove that this is not a conspiracy theory.
The question we should look into:
1. How do these Uigher fighters (men and women) can get out of China, given that fact that China strictly control Uighers from leaving China without a valid reason? This requires highly sophisticated players to enable that. I met a number of Uighers travelers so I know of this as I enjoy talking with them even though we have a language barrier.
2. How do those Erawan Shrine bombing terrorists who are Uigher have passports & identifications that is impossible to identify until they admited who they are. These fake passports & identifications can only be done by the US, Australia and NATO governments. Have you seen Border Security: Australia where the travelers used a forged passports & identification, or legally changed passports & identification, and can be still identified by immigration when they entered the country, Thailand immigration is no difference? But yet these Uigher suspects have those passports & identifications that it shows they are legit and able to enter Thailand.
For the doubters, These news articles show Uigher groups are actually fighting in Syria to overthrow the Syrian government:
1. From Idlib to Xinjiang: Uyghur Fighters Trained for Terror (https://21stcenturywire.com/2018/09/26/from-idlib-to-xinjiang-uyghur-fighters-trained-for-terror/)
2. Turkish-Backed Syrian Rebels, Uighur Extremists Reconcile amid Battlefield Tensions (https://7dnews.com/news/turkish-backed-syrian-rebels-uighur-extremists-reconciled-amid-battlefield-tensions)
3. Syria: Who’s in control of Idlib? (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-45401474)