While officials have denied that there was any political component to the US not attacking Iran on Thursday, a newly released poll from Hill-HarrisX, taken over the weekend, shows that a strong majority of American voters oppose such an attack.
The poll showed 58 percent favored a non-military approach, with 48
percent calling for diplomacy and nine percent saying the US should take
no action at all. By contrast, only 5 percent supported a war, and
another 19 percent wanted “limited” attacks.
A majority remained against an attack in all parties, and all age
groups, with 67% of Democrats calling for non-military options, 54
percent of independents, and a slight majority of Republicans.
With overwhelmingly more people in every category imaginable opposed to
the idea of a war with Iran, the perennial hawks who have been trying to
foment an Iran war for generations clearly still have an uphill battle,
and a public that still isn’t buying their push.
Yes, the people want peace, but the establishment media will suppress any real antiwar voices at all costs. We’ll see how it goes in Wednesday night’s debate, but I don’t hold out much hope for a fair discussion.
I expect Tulsi Gabbard and maybe the Minn senator to shine
Which MN Senator? Klobuchar? She is a zionist war monger. Tulsi has my 100% support.
Tulsi is the only real thing., But they are already smearing her with Hindu “nationalism” — to get her marked as somebody “foreign”, as well as “nazi” that hates minorities. Anything to get her controversial. She needs to step up her anti war mongers philosophy and sharpen the art of attention getting in defense of real leadership in foreign policy. And how dies it matter.
I actually misspoke. I like everything Tulsi has been saying but before she gets my vote she’ll have to pass the ultimate test – speak truth to Israeli influence in our politics. Without that, she’ll still be another aspirant for the position of the viceroy of the northern American province of Israel.
“Tulsi is the only real thing.”
She may or may not be the real thing. But if she is the real thing, she’s definitely not the only real thing.
Not a prob. There’ll be an “incident” ~ sort of like Tonkin, the Kuwaiti Incubator babies, Saddam’s WMDs ~ and Americans will suck it up. Maybe even call for a Draft and a War Tax.
The swamp hawks have already tried to set things off with a false flag, with the Japanese tanker attack. Trump didn’t follow through with an attack on Iran (after realizing the damage that would follow to the US and Iran, and to his re-election chances), much to the frustration of the neocons. It’ll take a much more catastrophic event, real or staged, to get him to wage war with Iran at this point.
Do not worry, they will go for it. Another 9/11 or equivalent — these people are CRAZY, For them it is now or never.
That evil genius Goering on this:
“Why, of course, the people don’t want war …. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.”
“There is one difference,” I pointed out. “In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.”
“Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”
How does it matter?! Americans were waiting in lines that stretched around blocks to see their representatives to give them an earful when Syrian war was talked up. Slowly but surely, ISIS menace came into out living rooms, urging us to g to Middle East. Never did we care to ask who is payong them, feeding them, giving arms and ammunition, vehicles, gas and satellite telecom. Sure, they sold some stolen oil, making it sound that they were self sufficient. And still, had it not been for Syrians, Iraqi, Iranian, Turkish and Russian forces — ISIS would still be holding on territory. But Trump took credit, and that was that.
The fury that ensued afterwards — about 2000 US troops to get out of Syria was telling. It was always about Iran. With or without Syria or obedient Iraq — Iran myst be tackled. Israel’s obsession with Shia is obvious. The notion that Sunnis are in the pocket, and Shia must be subdued — has reached its zenith, and is now in serious danger of not materializing. Congress wants the authority as it is determined to start war. Saudis are slipping away — and giving more arms constitutes danger to Israel.
One way or another war is going to be pushed through. But one strike will bring retaliation and then, only then will we find out.we have no friends. The idea that we can bring down Iran is not sound. As immoral as it is — the sheer stupidity of risking our soldiers lives for nothing is mind boggling.
Yeah – except that poll taken during Obama’s time said 75 percent or more of Americans believed Iran actually has nuclear weapons, not just a nuclear weapons program.
Also, we’re hearing all this “Iran threatens our troops” because if the neocons can convince the public of that – as they have convinced the public that Iran has a nuclear weapons program – then how hard will it be to get the war started? This whole country is “support our troops” insane.
And who here is dumb enough to think that the US electorate has enough control over the Congress – as opposed to Israel, the neocons, the military-industrial complex, the oil companies, and Wall Street – to prevent anything they want to do?
That’s a fantasy. People want to believe they’re not being ruled by an oligarchy of corrupt SOBs and that they have some control over that situation. Well, you don’t, folks. You haven’t for decades, if not the last century.
So we’re reading all this “Trump doesn’t want a war”, “the people don’t want a war” bilge. It’s irrelevant to what is actually going to happen.
No. You are wrong. If they can’t manufacture the consent, they won’t be able to do the war. Keep speaking out. Don’t give up!
I reiterate, that’s a fantasy. The elites – both in the government and in the media and the corporations – have learned how to manipulate the public into accepting, however reluctantly, whatever the elites want to happen.
The public may push back on occasion, as when they elected Trump over Clinton, but they were lied to – and suckered into electing another clown – then as well. This is how it works – even if the electorate pushes back, the elites know how to manipulate the situation so it doesn’t derail their plans.
And since most of the public only express opposition to wars in the polls – and almost never at the voting booth because foreign policy is never high on their priorities as every poll has proven – nothing changes. The presumption that Trump was elected because of his alleged “anti-war” stance – as opposed to his economic or immigration stances – has never been proven AFAIK.
As for “manufacturing consent:, read this:
Half of American adults expect war with Iran ‘within next few years’: Reuters/Ipsos poll
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-poll/half-of-american-adults-expect-war-with-iran-within-next-few-years-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1SR27K
Quote:
While Americans are more concerned about Iran as a security threat to the United States now than they were last year, few would be in favor of a pre-emptive attack on the Iranian military. But if Iran attacked U.S. military forces first, four out of five believed the United States should respond militarily in a full or limited way, the May 17-20 poll showed…
Iran was characterized by 53% of adults in the United States as either a “serious” or “imminent” threat, up 6 percentage points from a similar poll from last July. In comparison, 58% of Americans characterized North Korea as a threat and 51% characterized Russia as a threat.
Despite their concerns, 60% of Americans said the United
States should not conduct a pre-emptive attack on the Iranian military, while 12% advocate for striking first.
If Iran attacked, however, 79% said that the U.S. military should retaliate: 40% favored a limited response with airstrikes, while 39% favored a full invasion.
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So as I said, all you need to do is manufacture an incident where “Iran attacks.” And over a third will then support a “full invasion.” And over half view Iran as a “serious threat.”
This is how propaganda works.
Keep speaking out to friends coworkers strangers political reps. If they can’t win the propaganda war, there won’t be a physical war. We can stop this, like we did in Syria. The monsters can be beaten!
Supposedly 90-95% of calls coming in from constituents regarding the banking sector bailout a decade back, were adamantly opposed to the action. You see how much Congress gives a damn about the feelings of their constituents. And likely 80% of those who voted for the bailouts got re-elected anyway. Americans are idiots and sheep. Once false flag and the Americans will be waving theirs and calling for all-out nuclear war.
I doubt very much Americans are idiots and sheep and would be waving their flags and calling for nuclear war. The polls put a vast majority of Americans opposing war with Iran.
The Americans you’re referring to are the Boobusses, and they’re a minority. Those Boobusses are, indeed, idiots, and you can’t fix stupid.
Just watch what happens when they blow up an American ship and kill a few US soldiers as part of the next false flag. That “minority” you refer to will fall for the lie, hook, line, and sinker as they say. I’d bet money on that. Today, millions would do it simply because of social media “pressure,” regardless of the principles they claim to hold.
Poll shows majority of Americans oppose Iran war.Who cares? What matters is if Israel wants war.If Israel wants America will have war.