For the sake of international standing, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu tries to position himself as a right-of-center leader willing
to talk peace. All of this flies out the window when an election
campaign is ongoing, however, and Netanyahu shifts drastically
right-ward, demonizing not just the occupied Palestinians, but also
Israel’s own Arab minority.
If there wasn’t an election next month, Israel would be hyping its
treatment of its Arab minority as equals. Instead, Netanyahu is trying
to scare voters into thinking his political rivals might let Arabs into
the government. When actor Rotem Sela criticized this, noting the Arabs
are supposed to be equal, and so what if they were in the government,
Netanyahu fired back that Israel was never meant to be “a state of all its citizens.”
That sounds like the sort of thing a head of state would generally keep
to himself. Courting the far-right vote, however, Netanyahu is steering
into the narrative that Israel is a state “of Jewish people alone,” saying anyone who thought otherwise was “slightly confused.”
This puts Israel’s persecution and demonization of its minorities, far
from an unfortunate result of decades of regional strife, as very much
by-design for the ruling coalition. From Netanyahu’s perspective, such
minorities can never hope to even have a representational position
within a government.
This isn’t the first time election Netanyahu took a position far from what he’d long insisted. During the 2015 election, Netanyahu disavowed the idea of the Palestinians ever getting their own state. Once he secured his far-right coalition, he backed away from this stance.
He’ll deny it again as soon as the election is over.
The friends of Israel will all pretend to believe that, and tell us to accept it, then act as if it all never happened.
… all while laughing up their sleeve…
Well, I suppose they are more open about dissing non-believers nowadays.
This is about politcs, not religion
Really? Not at all?
Brockland made a comment about “non believers”-referring to religion.
Netanyahu’s comments were ridiculous and counter productive. At the same time, most of the Arab world has been rendered Judenrein-a Jew cannot become a citizen of Saudi Arabia, Libya, or the Gulf states.
In this country, we have reservations as a refuge for Native Americans. Israel is the refuge of last resort for Jewish people.
pity they got that reservation by machine gunning the people already there but nevermind that stuff.
Neva happened
Dude, after the Jews were kicked out of Palestine, the two times they were welcomed back was during the reign of the second caliph, Umar, and after the Spaniards threw out the Moors they were invited to settle in the Ottoman empire. These anti-Jew feelings in Arab world are the result of the establishment of Yisrael. Unlike Christians, Muslims have not had a problem with Jews because of their religion.
Certainly, there were periods of enlightened and progressive rule in the Islamic world.There also was the dhimitude-no Jew may leave his home while it is raining-lest the pollution wash off a jew and contaminate a moslem, no jew may ride a horse,less his head be above that of a Moslem, no jew can testify against a moslem in an Arab court of law. Race riot after race riot, pogrom after pogrom.
Citation?
Go to wiki-“pogroms” plenty of Arab pogroms
Ridiculous comments. Reservations for Native American’s are ethnic removal camps… the place they were put after their land was stolen from them … Israel is an ethnically cleansed state created by similar type expropriation, deportation and terror.
Duuh-people bought land. Refugees from Egypt and Iraq moved in
Try again in English
There is non soblind as he who will not read, see hear ect
do some reading, educate yourself, and dump your agitprop
Give me a citation… one of the Big Lies is that there was no mass expropriation and deportation of Palestinians
google wiki+pogrom. google history of the Jews in Egypt,Persia, Iran,Libya.Syria.Algeria Yemen ect
there was an exchange of populations-Arabs living in Israel did loose their homes, Jews in the Arab lands lost thier homes
Actually, Harry, it’s about both politics and religion. When Bibzy Nutty&Yahoo declared Israel a “Jewish-only state” he meant just that. Muslims and Christians aren’t equal to Jews.
The Israeli Constitution says as much… Bibi is just repeating tenets of the Basic Law.
Israel is all about religion as politics. That’s what Zionism is, the mixing, not separation, of religion and state.
In a more sane insane American empire-verse the neocolonial Israel project would be recognized as the waste of time and money that it is and any domestic supporters of a foreign country to the degree Zionists are, recognized as the quislings that they are.
Sans Israel, Syria, Iraq and/or Iran could easily be U.S./Western allies.
Iran hates us for the overthrow of their leader in 1953 and the installation of the Shah. Syria is a brutal dictatorship with a brutal secret police force, badly infested by escaped Nazis in the 1950’s. Iraq-no doubt you would love Sadhham Hussein. Great friends!
Iran doesn’t hate us and would jump at the chance to be allies. Same with Syria and their “brutal dictator”. And I do believe Saddam is dead. If we’re allies with the likes of the Saudi’s, the UAE and the apartheid parasite then Iran, Syria and Iraq would be a step up.
… And Saudi Arabia is a close, trusted ally as are the far smaller Gulf monarchies of would-be Arab NATO. None of whom are human rights and democracy exemplars either.
No colonialism-returning home. Zionism is the creation of a refuge-where people can practice religion or not-but be safe. The Nazis and most antisemites consider a Christian of Jewish descent to be a Jew
The original Hebrews are long gone.
Waiting for the Hasbara gang to come in and defend this.
Ilhan Omar has them cowed for the moment. But they’ll soon be up to the same old stuff that few are now buying, including many Jews.
I meant here, in this comment section, about this article. Was I wrong? : )
Nasty made up names are the product of a lost argument
And in this case it was also a pretty good prediction.
In other words, free speech is only for those who agree with you
Did I say you didn’t have the right to speak what’s on your mind? Or don’t I have free speech?
When you loose your arguments, you use insult-by the way what is a “hasbara”
What argument? And if you don’t know what Hasbara means, why would you feel insulted?
I don’t think George Wallace went that far.
Wallace apologized for his bigotry
Netanyahu never will
But George was full of shit when he apologized.
It was a sincere apology
I didn’t think it was.
We will have to disagree on that.
Netanyahu: Israel is the state of ‘Jewish people alone’
Israel is a Apartheid state….worse than the former South African Apartheid state.
Israel is supported morally, financially and military by the US.
Bishop Tutu said Israel apartheid was worse than that of S. Africa.
Exactly.
South Africa has decided to close it`s Embassy in Israel…in protest of the brutal treatment of the Palestinian people.
Oi vey 🙂
Look how south Africa has worked out-crime ridden and racist
Sources? While you’re at it, got a point?
People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones-let south Africa cleanup its own house first
So you’re objecting to Tutu’s criticism of Israel because… apartheid? because… ANC? He’s responsible for all that, is he?. I guess that made more sense in your head. Does it now? And what about those sources?
When you have a major political party marching “kill the Boers”–nasty bit
Don’t forget – Israel and apartheid South Africa were best buds.
Meanwhile,look what has happened to South Africa-rampant crime poverty and racism
Now you’re repeating yourself. Had enough
uh huh – and look at Nazi Germany’s wonderful scientific advances
In an apartheid world, you need an apartheid state. By the way, 20% of the citizens of Israel are non Jewish Arabs
Doesn’t the Jewish Nation State Law make them less than equal with the Jews? Don’t the Jews only have the right to self determination??
Citizen is far different than a National with all those rights and use of the good roads, etc. How come West Bankers can’t vote in national elections?
Antiwar.com is fake.
i wrote, Israel is a Apartheid state….. my comment was deleted twice.
I just posted the same thing above. LOL!
Sadly.
The two comments were not deleted. They are currently held in moderation. I think you posted them when Tom Knapp was sleeping, and they were automatically held. He’ll decide if they’re OK or not.
So there is not freedom of expression….but censorship by one dude.
Antiwar.com is not a government and not only does not, but cannot, “censor.” You can say or write anything you like. It’s up to us whether or not you get to use our microphone to do so.
Your comment was automatically held by our array of filters, some of them standard to Disqus, some implemented by Antiwar.com pursuant to its guidelines on whether or not a particular comment gets to go out over our microphone.
My job vis a vis those filters, which are far from perfect, is to look at the stuff that catches them, see whether or not it actually violates our guidelines, delete the stuff that does, and approve the stuff that doesn’t. Yours didn’t violate the guidelines, so it got published. Or, rather, one of the two copies of it did. Presumably you didn’t mean to post exactly the same comment twice on the same post?
ok. understood. No, i was not sure if my first comment was deleted by mistake or on purpose, so i wrote it for a second time…..when this also was deleted, i figured there was a censorship….witch i had not experienced on this site experienced before.
Freedom of speech except when it is censored by a non-gov entity. Gotta love it.
Yes, them dang filters.
Remind me of that when you start banging your tin cup for donations! I quoted the Israeli Basic Law and was censored.
No, you weren’t. You quoted the Israeli Basic Law and there was a short delay before your comment was posted.
Write something with the word “J*w” in it and write something with the word “Muslim” in it and see which one gets held for moderation.
Wow.
ditto!
Try to use apostrophes to avoid moderation and see how quickly you get banned.
I suppose I should have used the “e” instead of the apostrophe. It would have proven my point. I wouldn’t use apostrophes at all if I knew what words I can use and when. Sometimes I can say sh*t without the apostrophe and sometimes I can’t. I can even say the dreaded F*ck once in a while using the “u”. But I would think I should only be banned for using apostrophes to avoid moderation because I’m being racist or rude to someone and not for trying to use the word Phuck.
I’m having similar censorship problems on antiwar. Come fundraising time I won’t forget. I never support sites that censor political debate.
Would you seriously claim that this site is particularly strict about what you can say, compared to the rest of the internet? Many news sites are now turning comments off entirely.
Primarily wacko leftist websites like CNN, MSNBC, HuffnPuffn, etc., because they know it all (they think) and how dare anyone disagree with them?
Shared values huh?
Peace Process = a sham and propaganda ploy from the onset. Correction: Might have been a blip in that but that P.M. was assassinated.
But that assassinated PM did say about the Pals that we’ll break their bones.
And Arafat told his people that he would take what he could get at Oslo and then take the rest later.
Let’s appoint a Special Counsel to make sure no Americans interfere in Israel’s elections.
The US has interfered in foregn elections many times
Actually Adelson HAS interfered hugely in the Israeli election and that’s why Bibi is in hot water … though chances are he’ll walk from any charges (brought by his allies in a farcical proceeding)
If Netanyahu doesn’t win some of the Rapturists who were hoping for THE RAPTURE during their lifetime (see Pence) would be saddened.
Bibi is right–Israel is a racist, apartheid state for Jews only. We should applaud such honesty.
Defining Israel as an apartheid state was a brain storm of Jimmy Carter,who’s pet charities have received tens of millions of dollars from apartheid Arab states
Those Arab states are on their own lands–unlike Israel which drove out 700K Pals.
A lot of those land the Arab states are located on were seized from their previous inhabitants and “Arabized” in the 7th and 8th centuries. Then, in their modern form, they were created by the British and French and handed over to not necessarily indigenous governments after World War One (for example, the Hashemites got Jordan as the booby prize when Ibn al Saud got Mecca for his new state).
Is there some particular reason why descendants of people who fled those states shouldn’t enjoy a “right of return” whether they identify as Arab, or Muslim, or neither?
One of the first documented genocides in history was when the Israelites were ordered by God to destroy the Canaanites because God said that was their land.
Duuh.? Some modern scholars say that he biblical exodus never happened-the Jews of today were caananites. In any event, history is full of group A displacing group B,who displaced group C. Jews do not practice biblical Judaism, Christians do not practice biblical Christianity-things evolve. The question is how the people of today can get along a little better
Correct. The “exile in Egypt” and the Exodus are pure religious myth up there with Virgin Births, resurrections of the Dead and Assumption into Heaven.
and “God gave us this land”
In the case of Jericho it’s more like ” Our God gave us the right to steal the land and kill the occupants”… an unfortunate inspiration to attitudes that prevail today.
And when the Arabs invaded Israel, their goal was to divide it up for themselves, and push the Jews into the sea. They lost-HA HA HA
There’s that idiotic “drive into the Sea” bs. Why would anyone pollute the Sea?
So you agree there were usurpers of the people who lived and thrived there.
Jewish people do practice Torah Judaism which is identical to the biblical Old Testament. Funny how you and yours refer to the Old Testament/Bible as the basis for your land taking “this is our land, god gave it to us”, as the settlers are known to spout when persecuting the inhabitants of land they want to steal.
Correct. The Canaanites being the Palestinians of today… this all goes back a long way… the Jewish sacred scripture validates genocides
I did reply to your post, but its been disappeared 🙁
Rev 2:9 + Gal Gadot > Racism
Yeah. What’s going on here? Lots of censorship suddenly on anti-war.com
Your are just being argumentative. What happened more than a thousand years would be hard to correct today. Should all none Native Americans vacate and hand the country back to them? You probably think so.
There is no equivalency here with the Pal-Israeli situation which occurred under the auspices (sic) of the UN–when we claimed to be living under modern laws and norms. Besides, these were European Jews driving out the native Arab people, both Muslim and Christian.
But thanks for your riposte.
“Should all none Native Americans vacate and hand the country back to them? You probably think so.”
If an American Indian (Russell Means’s preferred term — anyone born in America is a “native America”) can establish that his ancestors rightfully owned the acre I live on and that that acre was stolen from those ancestors, is there any particular reason he shouldn’t get that acre back? The last Apaches weren’t defeated in the US until 1924 and in Mexico until 1933 (the year my parents were born). Why would their claims be less valid than claims dating from 1948?
How far back does Mr. Means have to go to establish that claim? Besides, this does not parallel the Pal-Israeli situation. There are Pals still living you can tell you which house they lived when the Israelis took over the land. As for your Apache example, they were not driven off from the US to Mexico, at least as far as I know.
Frankly, I’m for all humans going back to Africa, where I understand all human life began. Problem solved. QED!
PS: I think I probably have just as much, if not more, sympathy for the Native Americans who we keep in concentration camps.
“How far back does Mr. Means have to go to establish that claim?”
Mr. Means is dead, so he doesn’t have any outstanding claims (I don’t know if his children do). Since he was Oglala/Lakota, one claim they might have would be to the Black Hills, which were stolen in 1868. Last time I noticed, that claim was still under litigation (the tribe had declined the US payment for the stolen land and was still fighting it in court).
“As for your Apache example, they were not driven off from the US to Mexico, at least as far as I know.”
Some of them were, some were native to the “Mexican” side of the magical line.
I know at least one Palestinian Arab (who would probably and rightfully sock me in the jaw if I dismissively referred to him as a “Pal”) who can tell me which house he was born in before the Israelis took over the land. Are you claiming that’s the only way a valid claim can be established? If so, in a few more years that situation won’t apply anymore. At that point will you throw up your hands and say “well, I guess it belongs to the Israelis now?”
Pali or Raeli.
Here, let me give it another shot–I am saying that I cannot think of any other case where [ethnic slur of “Jews I don’t like aren’t really Jews” variety deleted by moderator] drove off the native people and this injustice was sanctioned by the UNGA (albeit with coercion and bribery by the US).
Regarding my use of Pals–believe me I’m a lot closer to them ethnically than you.
“Regarding my use of Pals–believe me I’m a lot closer to them ethnically than you.”
Maybe, maybe not. But African-Americans don’t get to use the n-word here.
https://imgflip.com/i/2vujtd
Believe me, I am very close to the Palestinian and Arabs. No maybes about that.
It is best to acknowledge the past, then look for constructive acts, bit by bit, that can make everyone’s life a bit better.
Those “Arabized” folk in Palestine were the 99.9% of the Israelites who remained.
you are absolutely correct.And I am absolutely correct when I say that the Arab nations drove out 800,000 Jews from the Arab world. The Indian subcontinent was also partitioned
Not using that “big brush”, and there have historically been many minorities living in what is now Israel (you know the ones, can’t say the word). In fact, many of them purchased land from the majority.
Lands they stole from their Jewish neighbors
Unlike Israel, Arab states were not created on Jewish property… there were retaliatory expropriations however, following the expropriations of the Palestinians.
It was an exacerbation of years of pre zionist pogroms and discrimination
Generally Jews lived in peace in Arab lands prior to the Nakba, as they do today in Iran
Go check wiki for the number of Arab pogroms that occurred way before the initiation of the Zionist movement
Why don’t you send me the link.
Lands the Israelites stole from the inhabitants.
Arab States have never claimed to be western-style democracies and haven’t got taxpayer handouts like that apartheid State has.
Duuu? We fought a war to save Kuwait
Huh, that was for Israel’s sake. US ambassador said so.
It was to protect Saddam’s next target-Saudi Arabia
that’s pure war propaganda.
the Bush family was close to Saudi Arabia
Too close to Israeli Apartheiders and Saudi dictators.
Not what the US State Dept said.
…after we told Iraq that we had no interest in how they settled it with Kuwait for stealing their oil.
Of the top 10 states receiving US taxpayer handouts, the number 1 position of course goes to Israel ($3.1 billion per year).
In second place is Egypt, an Arab state, receiving $1.39 billion.
In third place is Jorday, receiving $1 billion.
In tenth place is Iraq, receiving $347.9 million.
You were saying?
I though he meant in comparison.
I was saying none of those claim falsely to be western-style democracies like Israel does.
Ah, OK.
I wouldn’t say so much that Israel isn’t a “western democracy” as that that
1) that term isn’t all it’s cracked up to be and
2) Iran is at least as much a “western democracy” as Israel.
Iran and Israel are both somewhat more open about excluding this or that party from elections and so forth. Other “western democracies” create the same de facto barriers to new parties but they do so through seemingly reasonable subterfuge instead of just coming right out and saying “if you don’t agree with the ruling ideology you can’t run for office” like Israel and Iran do.
If anything, Iran seems a little more consistent about maintaining token Jewish representation in its parliament than Israel is with its token non-Jewish Knesset representation.
Ah, OK.
I wouldn’t say so much that Israel isn’t a “western democracy” as that that
1) that term isn’t all it’s cracked up to be and
2) Iran is at least as much a “western democracy” as Israel.
Iran and Israel are both somewhat more open about excluding this or that party from elections and so forth. Other “western democracies” create the same de facto barriers to new parties but they do so through seemingly reasonable subterfuge instead of just coming right out and saying “if you don’t agree with the ruling ideology you can’t run for office” like Israel and Iran do.
If anything, Iran seems a little more consistent about maintaining token Jewish representation in its parliament than Israel is with its token non-Jewish Knesset representation.
Ask the Bahhai people about Iranian democracy
Ask the Branch Davidians about American democracy
Two wrongs do not make a right
Neither does one possible wrong that you brought up.
Egypt and Jordan are border countries of Israel, hence why two Arab countries are second and third.
Thanks for pointing out we’re paying 5 billion plus on Israel.
Israel is a flawed society,as every other nation on earth is. Under constant attack since its founding,life’s ideals and niceties tend to get washed out. Hard for an arm chair idealist to understand, but survival over ideals.
No. It’s explicitly stated in the Israeli Constitution (ie The Basic Law)
Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People — specifies the nature of the State of Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people. (from wiki)
Necessity is the mother of invention
Most of the Arab world is now Judenrein
No problem.
Hedges lambasting AIPAC;
Israel’s Stranglehold on American Politics
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/israels-stranglehold-on-american-politics/
Well done sir….
It is a sad and bitter irony indeed that perhaps the most dangerous, vicious, evil and vile criminal leader in the Middle East wasn’t from Iraq, or Libya, but in fact from Israel. Clearly so much of the violence and hatred and terrorism is a direct result of the crimes and atrocities committed by Israel. It would have been far bet It ter to have removed the nuclear weapons from Israel in 2001 and forced Israel back to the Pre1967 borders as mandated by international law instead of destroying 2/3’s of the entire Middle East killing millions, turning 10’s of millions into refugees, reducing entire cities to rubble, spending more than 7 Trillion dollars. The world in general and America in particular would have become a far better place than it is today.
Force Israel back to 1967 borders so that Iran and Syria could shoot down on them from the Golan Heights. Force them back so that Jews would be still be barred from their holy sites. -yeah-right!
The 1967 war was caused by a long history of Arab violence against Israel,plus the desire of the USSR to use the war as cover for an attack on Israeli nuclear potential
Make peace with your neighbors… but in any case stay out of US politics and fight your own battles with your own money.
If you want to be an isolationsist-then what about US troops in Germany,Korea, the Marshal pan ect?
By “isolationist” do you mean “non-interventionist?”
Non-interventionists want all the troops home, and at least most of them discharged.
good job Thomas, I always correct that “isolationist” label like that, too.
Sure. Should have happened decades ago… just a giant pork barrel for the MIC and the hosts.
Obama diddled in the Israeli elections with our tax money
Ok. Indict him.
And we are supposed to find any suggestion of this bias to be “antisemitism”.
when people allude to control of the Government, the Media, the Banks, ect,yes
well what are the percentages?
I’m sure you them everywhere , makes you feel comfortable
An Arab Party was also kicked off the ballot in the up-coming elections… There should be no surprise with Bibi’s comments… the Israeli Basic Law states that the country is the homeland for the Jewish people.
Well, at least he’s being honest.