A planned signing ceremony between President Trump and Kim Jong Un
capping the summit was scrapped Thursday in Vietnam, with no agreement
reached and talks ending about an hour and a half early.
This led to a conference from President Trump, during which he called
the meeting a “very productive time.” He said there were options, but
that the US “decided not to do any of the options,” and that sometimes,
the US “has to walk.”
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo also talked of progress, but said it
“didn’t make sense for the United States.” He claimed to be optimistic
for a “really good outcome” in the future, adding that meant total
denuclearization of North Korea.
Trump said all North Korea sanctions will remain in place, and confirmed
to reporters that this was the sticking point. He said Kim had “wanted
sanctions lifted but weren’t willing to give us the areas we wanted.” He
added North Korea would ultimately give in “at a certain point in
time.”
Trump said Kim has a “certain vision, and it’s not exactly our vision.”
He also called Kim “quite a character,” despite praising him repeatedly
throughout the talks. Trump did, however, say he trusts Kim, and that
Kim has promised not to resume any testing.
In Yiddish: “nefige”. A fig.
Here is an article that explains why the North Koreans believe that the United States is not trustworthy:
https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2018/06/war-crimes-in-korea-guilty-as-charged.html
The Korean people have paid a very heavy price simply because of their unfortunate geographic location immediately adjacent to the world’s largest Communist state.
Our foreign policy and diplomacy has been reduced to “I’m losing the game so I’ll just take my ball and go home”. End result? Kim gets on the world stage again and Trump ends up looking like a petulant child again. Kim 2, Trump 0
You’re absolutely right, John, our foreign policy’s a joke and our diplomacy has been reduced to “I’m losing the game so I’ll just take my ball and go home”. Kim takes the world stage again, while Trump ends up looking like a petulant child. Kim 2, Trump 0
Trump’s seventh dimensional chess continues. So brilliant. The best words.
Spanky thinks moving the board out of the way so he can see himself on TV, “playing chess”
He’s definitely winning bigly.
N. Korea would be a fool to give up all it’s Nukes while Israel is allowed to have theirs, and the USA keeps all theirs. I would propose to have a peace treaty to officially end the war, Korea test no more Nukes and builds no more and moves all artillery well out of range of S. Korea, no more war games on either side, US removes 50% of troops from the S. and sanctions end.
If the US keeps 50% of the troops there, NK should be able to keep 50% of its nukes and keep 50% of its artillery in range of SK.
wars, This is the beginning of negotiations!! 🙂 But as I have said, the ‘Deep State’, as well as the media and neocons, have cut off Prez. Trump from his Ballz!! I think he is finished, as well as our elections and the Presidency. Deep State rulz! 🙁 (But the 2nd still lives!)
We don’t need any troops to be stationed there. They can defend themselves.
wars, I may be able to live with that,,as long as they are then positioned on our Southern Border.
One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
wars, Of course they do, those thousands of troops need a new mission, and that is to protect our Southern border. Did you really think we would just send them to the unemployment line when our security is being threatened at the border?
Did you really think you could pull off the scam claim that “our security is being threatened at the border?”
The thousands’ of troops “new mission” should be to quit mooching off the government and go get real jobs in the productive sector.
Thomas, you are so very mistaken, so much so that I am amazed. I disagree with you on this point 100%.
Them needing a new mission is also irrelevant. Stop trying to conflate the two. South Korea can provide their own defense.
Totally not surprising!
Trump, pompeo, bolton want total de-nuc; Nk and everyone else in the world have absolutely no reason to trust the these clowns and their successors. If nk did de-nuc, what would prevent these clowns from ratcheting up another set of demands and if not met, then the threats of missiles,bombers.
Us mode of “diplomacy>”, my way or the highway-give up on everything and then we will “see” what else.
SK Pres Moon has worked very hard on this one and deserves a ton of credit but he cannot change the swamp animals.
Not surprising at all, Taras; Pompous Pompass and Bonkers Bolton want total denuclearization; NK and the rest of the world have no reason whatsoever to trust these clowns and their successors. If the DPRK did de-nuke, what would prevent these clowns from ratcheting up another set of demands and if not met, threats of missiles, bombers.
I told Trump to fire Pompous Pompass and Bonkers Bolton back in December, because they were undermining his agenda of withdrawing all US troops from Syria, but he didn’t listen. This pair are traitors and murderers and must be handed over to the DOJ for prosecution of their crimes. It was they who just wrecked Trump’s summit with Kim in Hanoi, with their insane demands to keep sanctions on the DPRK.
Yes, SK Pres. Moon Jae-In has worked very hard on this one and deserves a ton of credit; however, he can’t change the swamp animals. Trump doesn’t deserve re-election next year; simply because he caved to the likes of those two scumbags, Pompous Pompass and Bonkers Bolton. In a way, he’s a coward, for not standing up to them and firing them on the spot.
Dumb f**k supremacist US can’t compromise with NK (or anyone else), the usual give and take required in a negotiation.
When he took Pompeo and Bolton, kinda figured it was doomed from the start.
they are Koch agents looking to privatize North Korea’s vast potential. All about the Benjamins !
Koch agent/Mercer agent, what’s the difference ?
I don’t understand how difficult it is to reach a simple agreement!!!?
NK- Let’s sign a peace treaty first.
US- No…
NK- ok, lift the sanctions that are hurting common people, then we de-nuc. If we did not de-nuc, put the sanctions right back. as simple as that!
US- No…De-nuc first, then we lift the sanctions.
Bottom line: de-nuking is no point of return but sanctions can always be re-instated… Unfortunately Trump IQ is not high enough to realize that!!!
Spanky plays both sides like a cheating husband. Bloviates peace out his hole, escalates the deployments of troops. His bipolar base buys it both ways.
“de-nuking is no point of return but sanctions can always be re-instated… Unfortunately Trump IQ is not high enough to realize that!!!”
What makes you think he doesn’t realize that?
Presumably he realizes it as it’s not too difficult to figure out. But he can’t do anything about it. He’s hemmed in by Bolton, Pompeo and the Washington mafia. Trump can negotiate with KJU. Trump can’t get anything done with the Washington establishment.
There is plenty trump can do, without needing anyone’s permission, or oversight. 1) he can recall the first strike nuclear assets he deployed in Guam in Jan 2019, easy 2) he can withdraw US Navy assets which are in theater specifically to invade the North. These units are pointless now anyway, as the SK marines who would do the landings are not going to train further for this objective. See, they are trying to build a peace. 3) he could reduce by half the tac air assets in theater. The Koreans are moving away from invasion mindset, might as well go with em. These are just a few of the things trump could do now, 5 minutes from now, or 18 months ago, at no cost to US security. That he doesn’t, just proves to me, and likely Koreans, trump is not interested in any path to peace. Surrender of the north yes, peace, no.
The main problem for North Korea is that they cannot afford any further weapons research.
Removal of sanctions and retention of some nuke capability means they can afford to do more weapons research.
Trump is not totally off the wall to walk away at this juncture, but really, it makes no difference if Kim has nukes or not. Eurasia is moving on, with North Korea, and with or without the U.S..
The American war in Korea was of our making. This should have never happened and could have been concluded before I was born.
A long time ago.
Diplomacy is dead in the USA, all that is left are sanctions tariffs and threats.
… and regime change, missiles and MOABs.
https://www.rt.com/news/452693-halt-nuclear-sanctions-korea/
Request for partial relief rejected. These evil m’frs have no morals, no soul, and no heart-they get off on penalizing families, just as in Venezuela.
Gad, even the dimocrats are cheering!
Sickening!
Pres bolton joined the scene and off we go-he also added additional demands!
After the US left the Iran nuclear deal at Netanyahu’s insistence, and Libya was destroyed by the US and NATO after giving up nuclear weapons, it would be suicide for North Korea to denuclearize.
Trump was looking for a better deal out of this meeting. But Pence, Bolton and the others proposed an offer to Trump they knew Kim wouldn’t give up, thus sabotaging Trumps meeting as a success.
Sans Bolton and Pompeo, we’d probably be looking at a deal that makes sense for both sides. But Bolton apparently threw a spanner into negiotations. And Pompeo reminded Trump about the political realities of (neocon) Washington.
Sorry to say this, but North Korea needs to wait a bit longer and obviously would suffer more (sadly its people) until these clown idiots are replaced with a hopefully more reasonable admin in 2020….
I heard Trump swung by a Hong Kong tattoo parlor on his way home to get a tramp-stamp that reads Bolton’s Bitch.
Bolton strikes again.
….and again and again and again….
I have to chuckle. Wasn’t it Trump who told his former Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, to stop wasting his time trying to negotiate with Kim Jung Un? Now who’s waisting time and money?
in US hubris, delusional and exceptional mindset, unconditional surrender to US corporate power, theft and hegemony is the only acceptable act of any country….even close allies.
If you don’t submit, you will be “democratized”.
yes, before it was “christianizing” no it`s democratizing.
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/3/23/jane_mayer_on_robert_mercer_the
Take a look at the whack-doodle-theif that got Trump elected.
Translation: A deal now is too far from the 2020 elections to have a predictable impact.
Signing a bitter peace treaty in Vietnam was always a stretch.
[Trump’s reasons for walking are not totally off; NK has no money to continue weapons research. Removal of sanctions while retaining some nuke capability allows funding for more weapons research.
Its just that it makes no difference if NK has nukes or not. Eurasia and NK will at some point decide their future together, with or without the U.S..]
While the usa has continuously threatened to use nukes on nk,stockpiles nukes in sk facing nk, as they’ve already warred upon them, they demand nk give up its defense while the usa chokes them? What a deal
Kim would be foolish if he did not hold on to some form of a nuclear deterrent. He and all of us know that the US is not a trustworthy party. Kim wants American troops to stay in South Korea so he has a target to prevent the US do something foolish.
There is great discussion going right now on Rt’s “Cross Talk” chaired by Peter Lavelle on the failed talks in Hanoi. I strongly recommend everyone to tune in to it.