In a rare look inside the negotiations between the US and the Taliban,
Taliban officials have reported that the draft of a deal has been
reached which would end the Afghan War, and see all foreign troops withdrawn from Afghanistan within 18 months.
Taliban officials further said this deal would involve a ceasefire at
some point, leading to open talks with the Afghan government. This would
be a major change as the Taliban have long refused to talk to the
Afghan government, saying they had no real power.
US negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad downplayed the reports of the deal, saying nothing would be agreed to until everything is finalized. He did, however, confirm that significant progress had been made.
Khalilzad did not offer a lot of specific details on the matter, but did
confirm that there were a “number of issues left to work out.” Talks
are expected to pick up again in early February in Doha.
Other reports have suggested that the Taliban agreed to keep all ISIS
and al-Qaeda forces out of Afghanistan in return for the US troops
leaving. US troops have been in Afghanistan since 2001, the longest war
in American history.
Good news, if true. It is time to leave the cave dwellers alone.
Don’t believe it, Trump is just a warmonger, he isn’t really doing anything to try and end any of these wars, he’s a phony, Orange Man BAD blah blah blah blah.
Just thought I’d put that out there because that’s what half the comment section here is going to say anyway. Well not really, that bunch of commentators will ignore this story, it doesn’t fit the narrative of Trump Bad Man. And what fun is it being wrong?
Trump is not a non-interventionist. He’s not a neo-con either. He might not even be ideological at all. The closest he gets to any basic ideology is the “realist” school of thought. Less belligerent but still willing to push their weight around, this group generally find anything acceptable short of starting wars to get what they want. That last part is rather important though, considering that both neo-cons and the R2P type of “liberal” is in favor of starting wars to get what they want, this is a nice change.
Apparently he is trying to end these wars without getting us into any new ones. He favors gunboat diplomacy over real diplomacy and that’s often a problem, but not nearly the problem that invading countries leads to.
Let’s wish him luck and maybe if we end these wars we can then be in a position to end the rest of the war on terror, that is absolutely linked to these wars as well. Keep in mind that much of the root cause of terrorism is in fact the wars and our occupations. If we want to even hope for an end to the war on terror these ground wars will need to end first. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn’t really paying attention to how all these pieces fit together.
Ending our endless ground wars is not only the first step towards ending the larger war on terror but it’s an absolutely necessary step as well. It’s not enough to just end the wars, obviously we should be working to end the drone strikes and all of the rest of it as well. However, this will not happen so long as the wars continue to rage, there is just way to much spillover from the wars into all the rest of it. The wars drive the terrorism making recruiting as easy as pie, we have known this for a long time. They don’t “hate us because we are free”. They hate us because we slaughter their people and occupy their land. The first step towards ending their hatred for us, is to end our horrible treatment of them.
Still waiting on the Syrian pullout though.
Thanks for proving my point. It’s head Trump loses and Tails Trump loses with you guys.
Still, no new wars (although Venezuela is not looking good) and serious enough talk of pullouts to have the neocons in a panic and pulling out old big guns like Elliot Abrams to pursue minor targets like Venezuela.
With the Deep State war machine, its heads we win, tails we win, and we own the coin.
To not be impressed by what Trump has so far accomplished, is a sad statement on the anti war movement.
Venezuela is more of his stupid gunboat diplomacy, but it doesn’t sound like he’s planning war. My money is on new elections and then who knows what, probably an offer to trade with them big time. It’s still ridiculous because it’s none of our business, but it’s pretty much what the “realists” group of foreign policy people go in for. If he pulls a “Panama Invasion” on them, I hope we put him on trial and shoot his ass. But I’m not too worried about that really. He pretty much said he isn’t considering military, although it wasn’t reported that way.
I have a history with Venezuela so I’m not impartial in the least. I hope the people kick the commies out. They should keep protesting until he holds fair elections. You can’t lock up the opposition and claim you still have a representative government. And they are corrupt beyond belief, it’s criminal what they did to their country.
Having said that, Trump should mind his own business, but I have a feeling he had a similar business experience as mine and wants to force them to start trading with people and end their corruption. He’s been on their case since before the election, so I’m guessing that is where it comes from. Trump is basically a “realist” in foreign policy and they do tend to believe in Mercantilism via gunboat diplomacy, if no other way works.
Venezuela is Bolton’s baby.
Trump seemed inclined to leave it at strong rhetoric while he focused on the big deals like North Korea. Bolton is into unseating the ‘Troika of Tyranny’ starting with Venezuela, but with Nicaragua and Cuba also in his gunsights. [This may all just be to distract Trump from NK, Syria, and Afghanistan as well.]
Bolton probably feels pressured for a foreign policy win after falling flat with Turkey and Syria. Pence and Pompeo are more or less on board, he’s called in a ringer, Elliot Abrams, and he’s keeping an uncharacteristically low profile. The last may be a good sign; Bolton may doubt the outcome enough to not want his whiskers singed.
Trump should prevail, however Bolton is not one to underestimate on his home turf.
I’m not saying you are wrong about Bolton’s intentions but I do know that Trump has spoken strongly about Venezuela since well before he ran for president. Since he does business everywhere I’m guessing he tried to do business there as well and knows just how completely and totally jacked up they are and that they are simply doomed to collapse one way or another.
Have you seen how much money they are printing? It’s insane and it’s been going on since well before the US put any real sanctions on them at all. They print money to pay for more government programs, they print money to pay for more government works and to pay pensions, etc. etc. etc. You can’t do any business, without first going through their corrupt ass government either. It’s bribes and bribes and corruption and more corruption and all the while they could just open their doors to trade and fix half the problems they have. But they won’t do it. Instead the US gets blamed for a few sanctions that are in large part against the cronies who are looting the country.
I think Trump keeps Bolton around because he is a “legitimate” threat. In other words, what you say is absolutely correct. It’s the known position and because of that it can be used as part of his gunboat diplomacy. If he put a dove in the same position how would gunboat diplomacy work? Also by keeping a hawk in plain view he is free to work towards a peaceful resolution without being constantly attacked as not being tough enough. He did the same think with North Korea.
I’ll actually be surprised if we don’t see more threats and more posturing and it will look like we are going to attack at any minute right up until there is a resolution which turns out to be better than expected. In other words expect another North Korea style approach.
Trump probably sees Venezuela as a place that should be big resorts on every beach front property and hotels all over Caracas with his name on them, etc. etc. etc. He’s going to pitch that to them one way or another. And that is 100% consistent with how a “realist” or a Mercantalist would behave right? That is the same group that went to China and Moscow, etc. etc. They believe that we should be entangled economically. And remember it’s always been in all cases about making the world safe for our corporations to do business with. Venezuela won’t play that game and it bugs the shit out of the world’s businessmen. But it’s also hurt the people of Venezuela so much that it’s unreal.
I had a good friend living in Caracas. Sadly I have lost contact with him when we both made a move at the same time. I spent three years trying to do business with him and other’s there too. It was just impossible, bribing people, smuggling stuff, etc. etc. etc. You could not insure any package because the insurance companies wouldn’t do it. I could go on and on, but imagine Trump coming up against a road block like that? It’s got to be ten times as infuriating as it was for me and trust me it drove me bonkers.
So I think Trump is using Bolton as his Bad Cop and it only works because Bolton IS a bad cop. I think Trump is frustrated with a nation who could very easily be a fantastic place to live that refused to trade with the world and become that great place.
I think Trump is wrong and that it’s none of our business. But I wouldn’t be surprised if I lose that argument with my more interventionist friends, at least in the long run. They argue that Trump’s gonna fix this and the people of Venezuela will be very glad that he helped get them new elections and eventually a president who will open up their markets and the people will be prosperous and more free at the same time, etc. etc. I’ll put it this way. I think my more interventionist friends are more likely to be correct than the people here who think he will invade.
It’s none of our business, but don’t be surprised if Trump manages to pull off what will be considered a win to the interventionists. That’s all I’m saying.
Agreed, this is none of our business, but yeah, you’ve explained how business people in both Venezuela and the U.S. might be getting a little frustrated with Maduro’s corruption.
Chavez induced Russia to loan money, and moved oil payments to Chinese and European banks. U.S. sanctions effectively demand all oil payments go back, into U.S.-based escrow accounts. Chavez, then Maduro, more or less made Venezuela’s corruption problem geopolitical business.
Maduro also took Venezuela’s economy underground so deep, its going to take serious effort to restore the white market. Even the CIA seems to have been caught sleeping; their drug trade is unfettered, but enriches Venezuelan Generals, for example.
Every level of government may be guilty of and dependent upon, corruption. This was a clever move by the socialist elites to save themselves, even brilliant, but like all ruling elite games, hard on the ordinary people.
The U.S. would be crazy to own the Venezuelan money hole. With no arms buildup, no carriers or cruisers on location, this looks less like the Long War, but Long Intimidation trying to provoke a coup. Its impossible to pull a Gadaffi on Maduro without the extreme disturbance of a civil war, which would in turn jeopardize capturing the remaining infrastructure intact.
The Venezuelans, to their credit, just aren’t violent enough or foolish enough to destroy themselves that way anyway.
Its not clear how far Trump can get unless Russia and China step in. Presumably China would also want open markets, and Russia want’s its $13 billion in loans repaid. However, overthrowing Maduro takes the brass ring, locking out the Eurasians with losses.
The U.S. seems intent on consolidating the imperial frontier in South America now, which means among other things, no sharing.
Never believe and trust the MSM, bud. They spit out only Fake News. We have NO business whatsoever meddling in Venezuela’s domestic affairs. You’ve seen how the US reacted when the media accused Russia of meddling in our 2016 elections, and Russia did no such thing.
It’s up to the Venezuelan people themselves to handle their own affairs; no outsider has the right to interfere.
I don’t believe the MSM. LOL I haven’t bought any of their BS in about 30 years. Not since Dec. 20th 1989 to be exact. And I 100% agree, we have zero business meddling in Venezuela. I also 100% agree that the people of Venezuela must find their own solution. I have said the same exact thing repeatedly here. That however is not my point.
My point is simple. If you are going to claim Trump plans on invading then have the guts to act as if you really believe it. If you really believe it then get out and protest. If you really believe it then be willing to actually make a prediction that matters, in other words don’t claim one thing and act in a totally different manner.
I know a lot about Venezuela, I have a business history and personal history with them as well. I am not impartial in the least. I hope the people kick the commies out and take their country back. They have destroyed the country and they did that without the aid of the US. Even at the very height of oil prices they were still borrowing huge sums of money, printing even more than that and there was simply no way to sustain it. Our sanctions have been a drop in the bucket compared with how much oil we continue to buy from them. The reality is that if the US actually went 100% isolationist, which we could do, they would be worse off not better. Our oil purchases are one of the few things keeping them going, but we don’t even have to do that. We could just completely and totally shut our doors to them. By the way, it was never the US that put up restrictions between my business and Caracas, it was the government of Venezuela who did that to me and to their own people in the process. Well before the US ever sanctioned anything, the governrment of Venezuela had already sanctioned their own people and every business outside of the country who wanted to do business without going through them first. By the way, going through the government was impossible as well, because I was not big enough for that. But from what I hear, even if I was it would have cost me more in bribes, etc. Than it would be worth.
My point is that the Venezuelan government put far more sanctions on their own country than the US has ever come close to. Not that we should ever sanction them but some of the sanctions we did put in place were probably good for the people. How so? Well when your country is being looted it’s not as easy to do when other countries refuse to allow individuals from taking that money out of the country. Same for banks involved in this process. There is a difference between individual sanctions and refusing to buy, sell, trade, etc. etc. etc. Telling General so and so that he can’t take a billion dollars in stolen money and parking it in offshore accounts is NOT the same as telling the people they can’t buy food, which by the way is what the government does to it’s own people. Right now they have to smuggle in pretty much everything, it’s all on the black market. Not because the US sanctioned them, but because everything has to go through their crony government, who takes their cut.
Well anyway, you are 100% right. We should not believe the MSM, nor should the US be doing anything but minding it’s own business. Trump is wrong for using gunboat diplomacy.
Now having said that as well, I still will not be surprised if Trump ends up looking good on this one. My guess is that they will eventually hold elections and agree to have the elections monitored by the UN or maybe the organization of South American States, or some other group, so the people know the elections are fair. I can’t see how any other outcome is likely. One way or another Venezuela needs to have a legitimate government and that will not happen as long as the opposition leaders are still locked in prison.
Maduro is in a no win situation right now. He can’t claim to be legit after having tossed the opposition in prison, you just can’t. They have to have elections for the people, not for Maduro or anything else. The people need to know for sure that their government is legit. Just take a look at how our elections have warped everything and that’s just over the accusation of a “Russian interference”. Now imagine how you would feel if they had tossed your candidate in prison?
The US should mind it’s own business, and the people of Venezuela should stay in the streets until they get fair elections.
This is indeed great news. I applaud it the same way I criticized the surge and the increase in the bombing raids.
Still waiting on Syria to finish up, and Venezuela to not happen, but okay.
My fingers are cramped from all the crossing.
How many people know that this Mullah Baradar guy was released from custody so he could negotiate on behalf of the Taliban? Isn’t it odd that Trump could release one of the very top, if not The Top Taliban commander and the news wouldn’t be filled with it? If Obama released a top commander they would be freaking out in one way or another. Is it me or are they kind of keeping that part hush hush? This was from back in October did I miss this big story somehow? https://www.afghanistan-analysts.org/the-release-of-mullah-baradar-a-contribution-to-the-peace-effort/ ”
Date: 28 October 2018
“The Taleban have confirmed to various media
that Pakistan has released the most senior member of their movement in
detention, Mullah Abdul Ghani, better known as Mullah Baradar (brother).
He was arrested in 2010 and held ever since, apparently incommunicado
and without charge or trial. Baradar was a founding member of the
Taleban and a noted battlefield commander. At the time of his arrest, he
was the effective number two in the movement and the de facto operational
chief of the insurgency. News of Baradar’s release has been reported
before, but this time is looking certain. There is talk that he has been
freed in order to help in ‘the peace process’ and, even after eight
years in incarceration, AAN Co-Director Kate Clark says, he may have
much to offer.”
Where does it say Trump released him?
It says:
“his release is reported to have been made at the request of the new US special envoy, Zalmai Khalilzad …. Khalilzad made his first trip to the region in September.”
Khalilzad was appointed by Trump’s Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo (and, in fact, was on Trump’s short list for the position of Secretary of State itself before he settled on Pompeo).
It’s at least as accurate to say that Trump was responsible for freeing Baradar as to say that, for example, Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton were responsible for Benghazi. Their monkeys = their circus.
You can bet that Trump was consulted and that he had to agree to it. Since he sent his special envoy over there to work on this I would suggest that Trump was responsible. It wouldn’t have happened without him encouraging it and signing off on it.
1. Recommending he be released is not the same as releasing him.
2. The article says “reported” to have been requested by the Ambassador. Which means it hasn’t been verified.
Sure, you must be right, Trump didn’t have to sign off on getting him being released. They did it without him saying anything. Yep I’m sure that’s how it happened. Because he wouldn’t take the heat or anything if the press decided to beat him over the head with it, like they did Obama with the prisoners he released, right? By the way, two of the guys who Obama released are there too. Or didn’t Obama release them because he personally didn’t let them go with his bare hands?
Thank you for the acknowledgement. We don’t boss the entire world YET.
God bless the Taliban who want to rid their country of foreign invaders.
So the unelected, self appointed “president” who declared himself so at the order of Mike Pence and immediately went into hiding at the Colombian embassy after that, now “realizes ” (as does his American handlers) that he lacks the support of the country’s military.
What about the support of the people? 7 million voted for Maduro not him. He didn’t even participated in the elections and nobody had even heard of the US educated Greedo until he suddenly popped up in the super rich, very posh suburb were he now reportedly do enjoy the support of some 1.2 million upper middle class brats. The same people who owns the media, the factories and always support a good old fashioned US imposed dictatorship before a man (or woman) of the people.
Why not try to take a stroll in Caracas and try to convince the people there? No?
The plan who now has run into ground was obviously to fight the Venezuelan people and their president with their own money, the gold “confiscated” (stolen) by the English on US order. That’s petty. But Venezuela has a lot more were that came from and are about to open five more mines. (What probably made the US react now is that Russia in December last year signed an agreement with Venezuela to start mining that gold and gave Venezuela 5 billion dollars to produce one million barrels of oil each year.) And btw, remember how US whisked away the Ukraine’s gold reserves and how they transported Iraq’s gold to Kuwait to “check its purity”. Gold that hasn’t been seen since. But i digress))
And Venezuela will also stop exporting oil to the untied states. But the US couldn’t do this without the support of the mighty Venezuelan army. And that’s were we stand now. Time for plan B, enter Elliot Abrahms , Israel’s man. The Jewish father of the Israeli trained death squad policy of the 80’s who has killed millions of Latin Americans. And as that fails a very costly invasion. What could possibly go wrong…