With three US troops killed in Afghanistan earlier this week, President Trump was pressed on the matter of why, 17+ years in, the US military remains in the country. He told interviewers that “every expert that I have and speak to says if we don’t go there, they’re going to be fighting over here. And I’ve heard it over and over again.”
When Trump announced his escalation of the war last year, he said his first impulse was to pull out, but that the experts had assured him the war was still winnable. In recent months, officials have been very public about trying to convince Trump to stay in the war despite how poorly its going.
Trump’s claims that all the experts he’s hearing are telling him the same thing suggests his administration is limiting his access to dissenters. The war is plainly going disastrously, and it wouldn’t be hard to find people who would tell the president as much.
But the war continues, and President Trump says he intends to go to Afghanistan at some point in the unspecified future to meet with the troops. He didn’t say when, beyond that it would be “the right time” when he does go.
“We have to fight them over there so we won’t have to fight them over here.” So-called anti-war, America first Trump spouting the exact same tired neocon BS we had to hear from GWB? God almighty.
and from lbj on vietnam mindless stupidity. We are recycling stupidity over and over and over.
And every once in a while the U.S. govt “allows” an Islamist to kill a few or a few dozen here to remind us of the threat.
How about a different “logic”? How about “Don’t fight them over there and then you won’t have to worry about fighting them over here.”
(But then there is “The Complication”. The problem of Israel’s “ownership” of the US. Our Israeli “owners” need the US to fight them “over there” so that Israel doesn’t have to fight them over there.)
“If we don’t go there, they’re going to be fighting over here,” brings to mind the official 9/11 story, that bringing down the twin towers was the work of Muslim hijackers led by a man in a cave in Afghanistan. There was a man who on that very day questioned that account, saying there had to have been explosives used. One Donsld J Trump. Anyone paying attention knows by now that the towers were not brought down by airplane hits and subsequent fires. They were blown to kingdom come by planted explosives. An inside job. Planned to take over Afghanistan and several other Muslim countries.
Looks like Trump is a smart guy. But he’s a charlatan. It’s sad that the republic has fallen so far. Can’t imagine it can recover.
Fine. We should fall back to OUR border and wait. The idea that Islamic State and the Afghan warlords would attack CONUS is ludicrous.
If we did fight them here we would beat them in a few hours. But they won’t attack us.
We are our own worst enemy.
Only 2 problems with that reasoning:
It’s a lot harder to fight them over there than here.
The more we fight them over there, the more likely those who see the US understanding nothing but force might attack here.
A proverb says, when spiders unite they can tie down a lion.
just leave the CIA over there to harvest their poppy seeds to fund their black projects.
Sure, the military is preventing an onslaught of donkey bombs in Topeka….
I’m getting tired of all this winning.
What has happened to Trump? Why does he who claims to know everything better than every expert in the World suddenly listens to them?
Why does he not listen to his gut? Maybe he did and his gut said “listen to your experts Sir.”
“Listening to my experts” is a thinly disguised excuse. The most likely reason why Trump is choosing to stay in Afghanistan can be found on a map. To the West is Iran. To the East is Pakistan. Where are you going to place nearby airfields/rocket and army bases for threatening Iran? In Turkmenistan? Or Afghanistan? Sure the bombing can be done from carriers but land-based fields are safer and offer much larger storage areas. In essence an unlimited number of carriers.
A big problem is still that Afghanistan does not have a port on a world ocean.
Safest place for airbases near Iran? Israel. Port city? Haifa. Alternative: Saudi Arabia but that might create a successor of Osama.
It is all murky and more of our soldiers are likely to die for a chimera.
Mmmm, guess my gut isn’t very bright, only tells me it’s time to eat, leave the room, or take dump. Perhaps some day he could teach how to interpret guttural noise.
Thats why Trump was elected, right? To implement what the the “experts” are saying. They are the same “experts” that got in America into the Afghanistan occupation in the first place.
This nearly two decades war is one long festering taxpayer funded boondoggle. And all the Trumpkins will say is ” At least he is not Hillary!”
um trump needs to look at these so called experts financial relationship to the war! how much stock do they own and how much money would they lose should the troops be brought back home and end this fake war!