The downing of a Russian Il-20 earlier this week off the coast of Syria has left Israel scrambling to explain its own involvement in the incident, and while they feign confidence, the fact that they sent a delegation to Russia to keep pushing their narrative shows this is a serious deal.
Russia reported that the plane was shot down during an Israeli attack on Latakia, when Israeli planes were using the Russian plane for cover and got it hit by air defenses. Israel insists Syria, a Russian ally, attacked the Russian plane directly, firing 20 missiles at the prop plane.
Al-Mayadeen TV reported on Friday that Russia still doesn’t accept Israel’s version of the events, though they did say that Russia’s closing of the airspace off the coast is totally unrelated. Israel maintains that they’ve shown Russia “proof” and that Russia accepts the excuse.
Israel is promising improved cooperation going forward, and while Russia didn’t seem to be looking for a major escalation, they do seem to want to make sure that they take this incident seriously enough that it doesn’t happen again.
Kindly report and discuss the line in this article, “Russia’s closing of the airspace off the coast.” Are they excluding Israeli Air Force Jets from attack positions used before?
One can only hope…
I am not sure what is to discuss. Any military manuever at this time has got to be part of a bigger picture. Israel has bern pointed at and accused of criminal negligence. Not to mention m, blamed for ingratitude, and deluberate late and fake notification that resulted in reconessaince plane attempting to land at base, providing bombing raid predictable cover, while striking different area. Discussing military moves at this time is insignificant — the bigger problem is brewing. I doubt Russia would have made such accusations if it wanted to deescallate.
OK israel, explain this one too, why are you training mercenaries in secret IDF camps in the Negev desert preparing for an assault on the Yemen port city of Hodeida? As far as I’m aware, Yemen was never apart of your mythological hell hole.
https://israelpalestinenews.org/report-mercenaries-leading-assault-on-yemen-port-city-were-trained-by-idf-in-israel/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=744fdf5a-b606-4d97-8732-7fdf2dc9af4e
The goal of Israel is to generate endless war too keep the Arabs fighting each other, endlessly.
Russia will screw Israel back at a time of their choosing. Israel will now have to worry about every their jets every time they attack Syria, because next time it will be Russian S-300’s, not Syrian S-200’s, that shoot down their planes. But Russia will let Syria take the credit, so Israel won’t be able to prove it publicly – but they’ll know they no longer have carte blanche to attack Syria. No amount of “diplomacy” is going to change the fact that Russia is pissed off at Syria, even if they publicly “accept” Israel’s excuses.
“…that Russia is pissed off at Syria…”
No doubt you meant ” pissed off at Israel”.
Jump in there with an edit and I’ll erase this.
WRONG, the US protects Israel, that means the Russians wont do anything.
I was inclined to thjnk this way. Until the statement from Russia’s MoD and Foreign Sffairs. Russia is not avoiding confrontation with Israel — as it could have done easily writing it off on a mistake. Niw, I am no longer sure. Russia is escalating, knowing full well the implications.
There is an expression that says: “You’ve got to strike the iron while it’s hot.”
Choosing to strike at a later date will not “fix” the desired outcome because the chees pieces have already moved several times.
Even giving the Syrians S-400 will not make things right, they’ll just find another way to bomb the country and the Ru.ssians still have lost servicemen and a plane.
I recognize the need for news but why would anything that israel says would be credible, why give their statements even the modicum of accuracy and truth.
It is not possible for them not to lie.
“Russia reported that the plane was shot down during an Israeli attack on Latakia, when Israeli planes were using the Russian plane for cover and got hit by air defenses.”
Some questions, where is the wreckage and where are the bodies? No search? Really? Something’s not right about this.
And you know this how? Leave it up to Israel to concoct diversions. This one has been pretty clear.
That’s just it, Bianca. We don’t know anything about the wreckage. Have they located it? Are there pics of it? Could it have been one of the French missiles that actually shot it down? No statement from the Russians about that French frigate even being there let alone what they were firing missiles at.
Why does Israel have the right to bomb in Syria , but Syria doesnt have the right to bomb within Israel?
We know why. Israel is in a class by itself— and until they step on a wrong toe, such trivialities as international law, or plain rights and wrongs of human behavior dies not apply. But it may end up being an unwitting proxy in Russia -US standoff. While politicians are more then happy to be loyal Israeli soldiers, let us see how will US public react to the possibility of a real war in irder to justify Israel’s right to get on a war footing with Russia. This may have quite an effect on Israeli Arab enablers, as public opinion against Israel is already hard to contain. Naturally, all the strings will be pulled, all hands on board to protect Israel friendly Arab regimes. It will be interesting.
Israel has never been a partner of Israel. They have been assisting ISIS and related terrorist groups financially and militarily for years in attempts to overthrow the legally recognised sovereign government of Syria. Israel is dominating American foreign policy in the Middle East. It’s time Russia realises they are fooled by the Israelis.
We know that. The whole world knows that. Russia knew that all along. But until Israel acted in clearly hostile manner towards Russia in Syria — everything was done to assure Israel that its security was taken seriously and protective measures taken. But it was really just the matter of time before Israel was tempted to be clever by half — and pull a stunt worthy its reputation. Now, Russia is pointing finger at the lack of gratitude Israel has shown for all Rusdia has done to protect and shield Israel from turmoil kn Syria. But as Israel has been itching all aling to be involved and finally crossed the line — we are in a different geopolitical realm today.
. . .from RT
‘Criminal negligence’ or disregard to Russia-Israel ties: MoD details chronology of Il-20 downing. .. here
I would rely on Russian official text, and it is quite sharp. It goes beyond downing of the plane, as minute by minute Israeli maneuvers show the intent of hiding behind Russian plane. The ifficial announcement is blamjng Israel for criminal negligence, and not adhering with decinicting agreement. And not for the first time. Russia has reminded Israel of all the Rusdian military protection provided to Israel, Israeli citizens and Jewish residents in Syria, including enabling UN to return to Golan heights area. It will be interesting to see what happens. This time it will not be sufficient for Israel to privatelly iffer Rusdia any assurances, as the accusations are public. This is wuite remarkable turn of events. Both Russian MiD and Foreign Affairs are very, very explicit. We may be looking at an entirely new aspect of Middle East conflict.
Israel didn’t need their new super-duper F-35 “invisible” jet fighters when they could just fly F-16s in under a huge Russian prop recon plane.