President Donald Trump vowed a “big price” would be paid by Syria for an alleged weapons attack Saturday. The attack, supposedly against the city of Douma, has yet to be proven, but US officials are already looking ahead toward using it as a pretext for war.
A meeting of the National Security Council is scheduled for Monday. This will be the first meeting of the council to be headed by new National Security Adviser John Bolton. The focus is expected to be options for attacking Syria. The White House is refusing to take any option off the table, with military strikes likely imminent.
In April of 2017, the US attacked Syria with Tomahawk missiles, supposedly a punishment for a previously alleged chemical attack. In that case too, the chemical attack was not well established, and indeed still hasn’t been proven. It’s unlikely, given that, that the US is going to worry about waiting for proof.
The claims about the new attack originate with the White Helmets group, and was immediately reported as absolute fact by myriad Western outlets, despite the lack of evidence.
The White Helmets also call themselves Syria Civil Defense, are heavily funded by Western governments, historically getting large sums from the British Foreign Office. Though formally a search and rescue group, their media presence is almost entirely focused on advancing narratives favorable to Western government intervention in Syria, and claiming war crimes for which little to no proof exists.
The allegation is picked up by the press, and echoed enough it effectively substitutes for the truth. In this case, Western outlets are all reporting 70 killed in a chemical attack, quoting the White Helmets. The BBC even put the figure at 150 briefly, though dialed that back when the White Helmets deleted the Tweet that put the toll that high.
The claim was welcomed by many pro-war factions not because it was true, but because it was so timely. The State Department is part of an effort to push President Trump to keep troops in Syria, and were quick to sell this as something which the US needs to do something about.
Something more or less always means war in these circles, and that’s such a foregone conclusion that Russia is already warning of “serious consequences” over US attacks. The Russian Foreign Ministry’s official position is that the chemical attack didn’t happen, which seems an imminently practical position given the lack of evidence, or even conceivable reason for such an attack.
Douma is the last rebel-held city in Eastern Ghouta, and there were ongoing talks on an evacuation deal Saturday, a deal which was announced Sunday. While the previous evacuation deal fell apart Thursday evening, and there were some strikes starting Friday, there is no plausible reason why Syria would suddenly use chemical weapons there.
The US position is that Syrian President Bashar Assad is an “animal,” and that explains away anything that doesn’t make sense.
we have seen this before. when the jihadi loses, out come the chemicals. prior, all proof pointed to the jihadi. we may expect the same this time. besides, the US agreed years ago, all chemicals were removed from Syria. we need to see independent proofs for chemicals.
This doesn’t look good.
Only one surface warship at risk; except for the subs everyone’s cleared out.
Its well-orchestrated high drama at its best.
Assad either has to be suicidal, one hundred percent stupid or both to launch a chemical attack on the anniversary of one its claimed he carried out in April of last year. To do another one in the same month this year close to date, and really risk the wrath of the West, especially the U.S. I’m suspicious. Also especially when he and Russia and Iran really have the upper hand in the region? I distrust the Western narrative almost as him. Somewhere the real truth is covered up.
Yes, both Assad and Putin have to be the most masochistic and stupid of men to keep repeating these gassings and poisonings knowing that the condemnation of the world and the wrath of the U.S. will come down on them. Cui bono?
Correct. Assad and Putin are assumed to have a complete lack of any sense, while we know who is really in that category.
Notice Israel managed to bomb Gaza, Syria and Lebanon all on the same day, and nobody noticed from the MSM.
False flag designed to allow the usa to get back in syria as its influence is waning,as the war is winding down and to take the pressure and world view off of what israel is doing to Gazan protesters…Its a win-win for terrorism.
I’d say “force” rather than “allow” the US to be in Syria. This was aimed at Trump.
I see antiwar isn’t even hiding it’s pro-Russian Assad propaganda anymore it’s right out embracing it. I like how they added those “Lights, camera,action” into the photo of the white helmets that are actually in the warzones saving lives. It’s to bad the person writing these stories has never been to Syria and is just re-writing stories he found on the internet and re-writing them with a biased narrative and calling them his own.A true journalist would actually have some facts behind there stories by going to the actual places they’re writing about but,I guess when your dealing with gullible people who all agree on the same thing and never question the methods or narrative your offering them why mess with what’s working. It just goes to show this site isn’t about preventing wars it’s about dividing the gullible people of America using the guise of an antiwar platform as a daily smear campaign against the government and military all while promoting a foreign adversary nations agenda,free of charge I’m sure wink, wink. It’s sad how the people on this forum all agree no push back at the obvious biased narrative like a cult of zombies willing to drink the kool aid day in and day out and then they wonder how someone like Trump won the presidency. S.M.H….
Might I suggest a remedial reading course? Or English as a Second Language if you’re not a native speaker? That would go a long way toward helping you not make yourself look like an idiot in public here.
May I suggest you stop replying to my comments if you’re going to deflect from the issue I’m speaking about by criticizing my grammar. I thought you were supposed to moderate not critique people’s viewpoints. I know the truth hurts and you can’t stand the fact that I’m calling this site exactly what it is because it’s not antiwar it’s an adversary nation’s sympathizer propaganda platform plain and simple. I’m not the one looking for you for guidance on this issue,I’m just pointing out the obvious. You on the other hand are the one singling out my comments and taking the time to respond to my perspective. I respect you feel a need to respond but, I’m just voicing my opinion and if it offends you I’m sorry but, it’s my opinion protected by the same constitution that allows this site to operate,even though it’s not in America’s best interests.
What we are going in
Syria isn’t in our best interests!
“I thought you were supposed to moderate not critique people’s viewpoints”
You thought wrong. I am both a commenter and a moderator. I am as entitled to express my own opinion as any other commenter here.
The United States fired a missile into the Chinese Embassy and killed a few Chinamen . Bill Clinton lied and said it was a accident . China found out this missile was fired on purpose when George Tenet testified before the U.S. congress we picked out the Chinese embassy for a target .. Now do you think it is anti American to tell this story . I don’t . I think it was anti American to fire A missile into the Chinese embassy and lie about it .
Could you at least use paragraphs?
Hey Cowboy when did you change your user name to Uncle Sam? You gave yourself away with your Ditz bashing.
Hey warsRus when did you become a professional troll??? Who is Cowboy and what happened to him??? Maybe before you go around calling people by other screen names you should have some proof. Isn’t that the argument you’re making for Assad? Aren’t you saying America should have proof before it bombs Syria’s military, that it used chemical weapons but, you’re doing exactly what your claiming America’s doing,accusing someone of something with no proof? What do you call a person that does something like that I think it’s a word that starts with an H….
My proof was the Ditz bashing thingy. Same verbiage. Same idiocy.
If that’s enough proof for you to accuse someone of something maybe,you should go work for the American intelligence apparatus you’re constantly criticizing for doing the same thing.
Plus you asked who Cowboy was and what happened to him. How’d you know anything happened to him if you didn’t know who he was?
So because I asked you a question in response to your question you came to the conclusion I’m someone named Cowboy? You should really do yourself a favor and stop embarrassing yourself. Instead of playing Sherlock Holmes maybe you should focus on the discussion.
UNCLE SAM you do know in America the people are supposed to run the government .. I don’t consider I would be a decent American citizen knowing the 2 facts that I just told you . What would you have me do . just forget about the truth and just follow the criminal government leaders we have and just play stupid and dumb
Do you really think anyone here didn’t recognize you the instant you popped back up with comments including the exact same spelling errors and exact same poor grammar as characterized your posts under your previous screen name? The only reason you weren’t instantly banned is that you started behaving yourself vis a vis the activities that got you booted the first time.
I just told you a story about the Chines Embassy Now I will tell you a Russian soldier story . Yeltsin negotiated the end of the bombing of Serbia by promising Milosevic Russian troops will be coming in with NATO forces and we will protect the Orthodox Serbs civilians in Kosovo . Wesely Clark the commander of all NATO forces issued orders to shoot the Russian soldiers because they will try to protect Christian civilians . Do you think it is American to shoot soldiers if they try to protect Christian civilians . I don’t think that sounds very American at all . .
Do you think that Clark’s orders had anything to do with the religion of the civilians in question? If so, I think that that thing you’re doing that you think is thinking, isn’t.
I had exactly the same thought, wars.
But it seems no, “UNCLE SAM” (all caps, Wow! Impressive!) is our latest new “rah rah USA!” Kool-Aid saturated troll. Wonder how long he’ll hang around before getting his fill of well-deserved derision.
I suppose you believe the Russian government poisoned the Spy in England too We are telling you there has to be some factual evidence before you bomb and accuse some body else of a crime ..Unless of course you wish to bomb them anyway
Why does it take 48 hours for AIPAC to send Trump his instructions?
Creative writing is hard.
The US-Israeli-Saudi plan is a little behind schedule, but it continues: “7 countries in 5 years” https://www.demetrikofinas.com/the-famous-7-countries-in-5-years-memo-is-looking-more-and-more-relevant/
In Bosnia Clinton told Iztsebeck there has to be a lot of Muslim deaths before the USA can help you , So the Market massacre was blamed on the Christians with no evidence . Madeline Albright said who else would have done it . So the United States bombed the Christian side . In Kosovo the Racket massacre . The Christians denied it but Bill Clinton bombed the Christians the next day . Now there has been many gas and chemical attacks in Syria . The U.S. media and of course US government insinuates Assad did this . However many of the very same Jihad forces we supported in Bosnia and Kosovo we have been supporting them again in Syria . The United States deep state has been using many of the same head Choppers all along . Trump has acted on the deep state NWO agenda in Syria .the very same agenda the last three U.S. presidents operated under . I thought he was going to change directions
Bolton won’t take long to cause havoc. He is a specialist in CW, having forced the resignation of the first head of the OCPW Snr Bastani, and can’t wait to destroy anyone he can.
The USA are following their usual evidence-free findings, and the UK has learned well how to use this “democratic, law-abiding” tactic.
Obama’s red line was scarier, actually. This is just a redux.
Russian envoy’s grave warning today at the UNSC: