With Russia complaining that the US launched an illegal attack against Syria on Thursday night, based on unproven allegations of them launching a gas attack against northwestern Idlib Province earlier in the week, US officials have shifted to trying to blame Russia for the incident.
The Pentagon has announced that they are carrying out an investigation into the putative gas attack, saying that they want to see if Russian warplanes “took part” in the attack. Russia has insisted that no such gas attack took place to begin with, and that a Syrian conventional strike hit a rebel warehouse full of chemicals.
US officials don’t seem to be too worried about anyone proving anything, however, with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson insisting in comments today that Russia “bears responsibility” for the attack because they played such a major role in the 2013 chemical disarmament on Syria.
This line of thinking probably isn’t going to get the Trump Administration very far, however, since the United States also played a major role in the disarmament under the auspices of the Organization for Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. Either way, trying to blame Russia at this point, still having not gotten a deal in place for an international investigation, and having launched an attack on Syria over what they alleged happened, is putting the cart before the horse.
I am shocked they didn’t blame Saddam.
For this, White Helmets would need to perform CPR on him first, after reattaching the head.
So?
Those are relatively minor feats compared to finding ways to blame Russia for everything.
More wild assertions unburdened by evidence. “Our” unhinged and apparently unaccountable war machine’s departure from reality is truly frightening. It seems as though it will not stop lashing out in all directions until the Earth is a charred, smoking cinder.
Precisely my fear as well.
Pentagon investigations always just say what some General wants them to say. Ooops, its nobody’s fault that we bombed a hospital for an hour.
The problem is that in the military heirarchy, everyone does what the people above say they want. If a general orders an investigation, then everyone on that investigation is worried about what does the general really want as an answer. Then they decide that its a good career move in the military to give the general what they want. There is never anything independent about a Pentagon investigation.
When you hear about a Pentagon investigation into just about anything, get prepared for it to produce nothing but fake news.
The one thing everyone knows in Syria is exactly where the warplanes of other nations are flying. Everyone has the tech to track this. Everyone has an interest in tracking this. If it had been Russian warplanes, then everyone with a radar set that covers Syria would have known about it in real time.
Thus, since everyone says it was Syrian planes, I tend to believe that. The key is to understand that no radar will tell what sort of bombs they were dropping. We know it was Syrian planes. What we don’t know is whether they dropped conventional bombs on an ammo dump, or if they dropped sarin gas bombs?
An investigation into whether it was Russian planes is silly when the planes were tracked take-off to landing in real time. Russian planes don’t operate from the airbase that Trump claims was the source of the attack. So, an ‘investigation’ into that will either be really, really, really quick, or its designed to produce lies.
Not much Sarin seems to have been released by the attack on “lonely airstrip”.
They’rd used their entire supply killing 82 farmers.
What hospital? That’s just willy-nilly, the sky was falling heresay.False news!
The US Deep State works hard to direct a new presidential administration in its early days to stay on the trajectory of the warmongering morons. Again this is obvious with Trump. They have put him on track.
So where is this headed? The past three administrations each killed millions. That is what is coming with Trump. More immense suffering, death, and destruction. And for what? For the warmongering morons to laugh all the way to the bank while we pay the bill.
The elites in the US should all be invited to a necktie party well stocked with rope. I’m too old to do the hanging. It’s up to younger Americans to get to work to break the back of the US elites that are marching humanity to catastrophe. My generation has completely failed to build on the opportunity of the end of the Cold War.
I believe we as a nation started down the road to destruction when we allowed the whitewash of the JFK assassination to stand. He was attempting to reign in the intelligence/ war profiteer complex, died in the attempt and it has been all downhill from there.
They tried, but they got cheated and thus lost the fight that matters. See Oliver Stone on the 1944 Dem convention and the battle for the VP nomination.
By 1947 Wallace was out of the party and trying to fight against this. He ran as a 3rd party for President in 1948, but couldn’t get any traction. The same ‘mainstream’ Democrats decided for war and corporations just like they always do.
Replacing Wallace with Truman in 1944 was as disastrous for this country as was putting Johnson on the ticket with Kennedy.
You think Wallace would, or could, have stopped the Generals from trying out their ‘wonder weapon’ on Japan? Howzzat?
Even the ‘old arttilleryman’ , we are told, had reservations about using ‘the bomb’ and supposedly tried making peace overtures to Japan.
Absolutely. General Eisenhower was revolted by “hitting them with that thing” and even General Lemay, of all people, said that we should not have used it. However, Harry Truman was wild with enthusiasm and hubris when he received the news from Alamogordo at the Potsdam conference and immediately began attempting to browbeat the USSR.
There were always more Americans who just naturally hated the Commies more than they hated the Nazis. With the nazis gone, well, hell, those ‘godless’ Commies became everybody’s enema, again. It’s just natural.
If the Rosenbergs hadn’t ‘peached’, the Russians would have been ‘nuked’ decades ago.
Julius Rosenberg was a minor spy, delivering nothing of great importance to the USSR but was a handy subject for a show trial. Ethel was a completely innocent housewife and in a monumentally shameful act of attempted blackmail, she was judicially murdered.
Do you seek the TRUTH, about what is REALLY going on in this world?
The Path to Total Dictatorship: America’s Shadow Government & Its Silent Coup http://sgtreport.com/2017/04/the-path-to-total-dictatorship-americas-shadow-government-its-silent-coup/
Read the comments, in the ‘comments’ section, at the link (above), IF you care at all, about the TRUTH.
A key clue is that if this was Sarin gas, it was very poor quality, badly made. It was not the stuff that Russia made, and not the stuff that Syrian factories made before.’
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Whatever happened, this was a basement operation. Rebel or government could have done that, but it is not itself a failure of the cleanup done before. It is something new more akin to the Japanese terror attack using home-made Sarin.
How do you know? Where did you get your information? Is it reliable enough to convince the American people.
Can it stand against the propaganda effort to blame Assad?
Likely not and so Americans need to take it to the streets in bigger numbers than ever before.
Maybe the Canadians could show us how its done?
Hmmm, trying to remember the last, big Canadian anti-war movement. I see Canadian troops constantly in combat zones, but I can’t really recall even a large rally that shut down a city.
Canadians are tied-up with hockey play-offs, and celebrating their ‘warrior heritage’.
There was no need of an anti-war movement outside Quebec, which, in two world wars had a doozie.
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/08/trumps-59-tomahawk-tweet/
But who actually says it is Sarin?
a) US (disregard)
b) Turkey (actually smuggled Sarin to “rebels” a bit earlier)
c) NYT (where unnamed “experts” like to write and anything going against the Hollywood-tier narrative is labeled “unlikely”)
d) Dr. Monzer Khalil, the health director of Idlib Province (actually he just sends samples), held by “rebels”.
e) White Helmets, i.e. “rebels” with white helmets. Known for faking it and possibly killing people on-screen. then getting Oscars for their efforts.
Well according to America’s finest secret agency, you’d find it easier to cook-up a basement batch of crystal meth or that miraculous liquid explosive mixture that stopped liquid anything boarding the cabin of a commercial aircraft.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2013-10-10/no-you-can-t-make-sarin-in-your-kitchen
Which might explain why some people are still saying the US helped ship in some of Ghaddafi’s supply through anti-Assad Turkey.
How bold!
And we don’t even have one of the major parties on the antiwar side right now.
Perhaps we’re now so far into the cold war that has been promoted by the US that our only hope we can hang onto is the fact that Russia has the nuclear deterrent of MAD.
It does now seem that this is starting to run deeper than just war in Syria.
Could it be that the US is contemplating a war with Russia? Or at least gambling that Russia will be intimidated enough to fold their tents.
Now more than ever, it appears that Americans need to take the antiwar cause to the streets.
Fascinating that what anti-war movement that exists is now on the Republican side. The Democrats have shifted firmly to “We want nuclear war and we want it NOW!”. The Republicans now have a significant anti-war minority, and few people speaking out against this like Paul and Massie.
In the last campaign, the Democrats were shrill in their desire for war. Even Bernie’s fake-opposition campaign refused to say anything against war. Yet on the Republican side, the candidate saying anti-war stuff soundly defeated the others, included a Bush-son backed by a Hillary-sized warchest.
We’ve seen Trump take office talking about peace, and we’ve seen the Democrat-CIA-corporate media coalition pound him demanding war and demanding it now, until now it seems he’s caved in and decided to go along.
America hasn’t had an anti-war anything since the Berrigans burned their draft cards. It didn’t really. Even back then. What it did was lose a war.
Loogie-hacking hippies greeting sad soldiers at the airport are more of that American ‘mystique’ – or their catarrh cleared up, bigtime.
The US shows the lawlessness of gangster capitalism. Its bootleg liquor is oil, the boys it sends round are armies and its drive-by shootings are A-10 strafings. It’s Capone moved out of racketeering into politics where profits are in the billions and the laws restrict everyone else.
I see an extortion racket in which we hold a pistol to the world’s head to make them trade in our fiat currency, not backed by industry or gold.
The smart people may trade in dollars. They hold on to the gold.
The privatized US currency – federal reserve notes – are backed by the US military.
1. They will hold the Russians responsible because the attack was launched from an airbase that has Russian personnel so therefore, Russia should have known about chemical stockpiles at that location. The Russians should have observed Syrians in hazmat suits preparing for the strike. Now since the Syrians didn’t have such stockpiles this is all fiction but this is their reasoning.
2. The U.S. charge that Russia tried to destroy evidence by bombing a hospital in order to kill survivors is a joke. Even IF the Russians thought they could do that with about 4, 500lb bombs how would that erase the presence of Sarin from the corpses or the soil at the point of attack?
By the time the ‘hospital’ was bombed, if it was. The survivors were all on the buses to Turkey.
Liars create their own truth.
Liars create their own lies. Only a fool believes them.
Of course there is no evidence. There isn’t intended to be any evidence.
These charges are an escalation of the course of demonizing Russia. They are a direct repudiation of Trump’s previously expressed desire to “get along” with Russia. Trump has now clearly dropped that intention entirely.
Trump supporters who are still drinking his Kool-Aid – as the Obama zombies drank his for eight years – need to wake up. Trump is just another George Bush.
Yep, woke up this week.
Or actually, its more like I stopped clinging desperately to a slender and fading hope that we might just avoid nuclear war.
Pretry Bleak….
Probaby you are correct. Yeah, Bush. The compassionate conservative… Gotta Luvit… So what does that make Trump? The get along bomber…??? It seems to me that If anyone has something on Trump to blackmail him to act against American interests…… it sure ain’t the Russians, maybe it’s the Zions with their greater Is Real project. And what’s with Russia recognizing W. Jerusalem not Tel Aviv as the Capitol. Oh man… It looks like these next four years are going to be some unbelievable nightmare HORROR SHOW.. He does the polar opposite of what he says……OUCH, What could be worse… Are we to expect him to do everything some way OTHER than what he professed to do……
Just like there is no evidence Putin messed with voting machines, broke into anybody’s mail, realeased anything to Wikileaks, stole an election or elected Trump. In like fashion there is no evidence that Trump hired peeing hookers, had his phones tapped, or that Obama’s dying administration was hacking Trump’s or leaking NSA information to the press.
But that doesn’t change a damn good saga does it?
Trump has proved his cowardice again.
Well you, the Syrian rebels, Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, the Democrats and most Republicans, AQ and ISIS are in agreement.
Things like that, and dead babies’ photos, ‘move’ Donald to exert himself – and America.
Huh?
Clearer?
I think you’ve completely misunderstood my post.
And they think anyone is going to believe that bullcrap. Madness.
Which then would mean then, that the Russians were ultimately responsible for the ‘retaliatory’ US cruise missile strike, too.