While initially against the recent Russia sanctions imposed by the Obama Administration, President-elect Donald Trump now seems to be positioning himself as not just unilaterally ending them, but rather trying to use them as leverage in negotiating further deals with the Russian Federation.
On Friday Trump indicated in an interview that the sanctions, previously assumed to be one of his first priorities to remove, would stay in place for now, and on Sunday he suggested that they could be used as part of a grand bargain for negotiating a nuclear arms cut with Russia.
Trump’s new comments did not include any specifics on the size of such cuts, but he did say that he believes nuclear weapons need to be “reduced very substantially.” It is also unclear if he envisions Russian cuts as a quid pro quo for sanctions relief, or is just using it as a bargaining chip for mutual agreements on cuts from both sides.
If he envisions the US cutting its nuclear arsenal as part of the deal, that would be a big shift in his talking points too, as Trump has previously indicated that he intends to not only modernize, but greatly expand the US nuclear arsenal in his administration.
Convincing Russia of mutual cuts likely wouldn’t be hard, as US Congressional hawks are usually the big stumbling blocks to such deals at any rate. A proposal for Russia to cut its arsenal for sanctions relief, at a time when NATO is greatly expanding its military presence along the Russian frontier, however, would likely be a non-starter.
“Convincing Russia of…” – I am against equating politicians with a country like that. They are not legitimate leaders at all.
Who are legitimate leaders? Clinton and Navalny? And why? Because the US establishment want them to be the leaders?
Reducing the nuclear arsenals further is not a good idea – it will make the situation more dangerous. The nukes, so far, is the cheapest way to have the peace and stability in the World.
This is a political move by Trump to get backers for removing the sanctions against his buddy Putin . Now Putin only has to discard some old out dated nuclear weapons . And President Trump looks like a clever negotiator by eliminating another threat . I’am all in for Trump . This is a smart move
Around here, we know that if you’re buying into it then it must be another Trump scam.
It sounds good but that’s obviously what it will amount to.
luv from Canada.
It’s no scam, Don .. Most likely, there’s a scam right in your own country. Pierre Trudeau was a great Prime Minister a few decades ago (he had plenty of problems to fix back then), compared to his son, Justin. The son’s just another Obama .. a puppet of the Rothschild Banking Cartel who’s broken his promises to the electorate.
Donald Trump’s the real deal. He’s a billionaire; so, he’s not beholden to anyone except the US electorate. Neither Justin Trudeau nor Barack Obama have that luxury .. They’re beholden to the Rothschild Banking Cartel, who funded their campaigns through subsidiaries, and would lose everything if they ever left the reservation. One thing Trump’s not, he’s not a politician, he’s a businessman. Remember that.
It’s no scam? You took eric seriously on the old discarded weapons thing?
Trudeau could be as bad as you say, although I think he’s a made man and isn’t going to be broken by any big money interests. I think he’s more likely fulfilling his own political agenda.
Trump, the naive little boy, doesn’t seem to understand the negotiating hands of both countries. He’s going to give Russia relief from the sanctions for what? Russia reducing their nuclear weapons stock pile while the US doesn’t reciprocate. Does this clowna-s really think nobody will think about what he babbles on about?
I think it’s more likely that the Republicans are going to have to lock him in a playpen for a while until they sort out what’s happening.
luv from Canada.
Don, haven’t you read anything? I told you, Trump’s NO politician, all other Western leaders are – including your PM, Justin Trudeau. There are a tiny minority of politicians who are expert in negotiating deals correctly .. and those politicians were either children of great leaders, or students of them.
On the other hand, CEO’s of great corporations are expert negotiators, and Trump’s one of them. These business leaders have made successful deals with foreign leaders, whether they were fellow business leaders or national ones.
Now, Don, do you really believe that Justin Trudeau could successfully negotiate deals as Donald Trump has done for years?
Trump inherited a fortune made on government contracts and made another fortune on getting enough government favors to outweigh his business incompetence. He’s never been anything BUT a politician. His face appears in the dictionary next to the term “the establishment.”
See Thomas’s reply on Trump.
As for Raimondo’s story of Obama setting the stage for war with Russia before the inauguration, as he tells us in the opening line, then a few more times after that, I’m saying that my theory is more sensible and ‘straight’ too. But you can wait until after inauguration day to eat your crow.
What do you think of that prediction by Raimondo anyway. Do you think like me that he’s becoming a flighty little bird that opens it’s beak and starts chirping at the silliest things these days?
luv from Canada.
Raimondo’s article is worth reading today, but not for the spin everybody is going take from it. Here’s a few conclusions that are backed by Trump’s rhetoric during his campaign. Dog forgive me for taking him seriously. Maybe?
Raimondo goes off track when he tries to deny the Russians took part in the hacking. That issue is dead now because Trump has admitted it publicly. So now let’s look at the possibility that the Obama admin is setting the stage for Trump’s tough talk about Russia. Remember? “The Russians will respect us much more.” (Thomas probably has the exact quotes at hand)
I’m not going to go off the deep end with Raimondo and suggest that war’s likely just yet, but I will say that Obama and Trump could be working in concert with each other to set the stage. It’s a variation on Raimondo’s theme and it’s got perhaps more credibility than Raimondo’s weak scenario.
Raimondo: ” Now the Obama administration has announced that 6,000 more US troops will be deployed, initially in Germany and Poland, and eventually fanning out to Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Romania, and Slovakia. Accompanying them will be 144 Bradley fighting vehicles, 87 M1A1 tanks, heavy artillery, and aircraft.”
A narrative that is flawed anc contrary to his construct of war before Trump’s inauguration, simply because the forces won’t be in place until after the inauguration. And a few more details he gives that don’t work, but can be discussed as we get into an analysis of Raimondo’s theories.
Mine: Preparations are being made that are completely consistent with Trump’s tough talk on Russia which almost got lost in his other rhetoric, but which make much more sense. As I said above: “The Russians are going to respect the US much more” (words to that effect)
And here’s the clincher for me. Everyone is completely taken aback with Trump’s choices of hawks. Maddis especially, who doesn’t mesh with Trump’s expressed agenda in the least. But Maddis works very well for my imagined scenario.
The most likely conclusions: Obama’s admin and Trump, in concert, are setting the stage with this massive US show of force close to Russia’s borders.
Trump also admitted before the election He said Obama was likely born in the USA
Trump admitted publically Russia probably hacked us . That is likely a good bet . every body hacks every body
I’m not allowed to reply on Raimondo’s posts but if anyone likes my scenario better than his, go tell him. And maybe read his more carefully and pick a few more holes in it the way I’ve done. There are some more holes to pick at!
Talking threats of expansion is often prelude to a deal to cut. It is the nature of arms negotiations. The same thing happened in the 1921 Washington Naval limitation treaty. None could afford to build according to their plans, nor really wanted to do so.
Ray Shelton’s post on Raimondo’s story is the one worth reading there. The rest are just buying into Raimondo’s construct on Obama starting a war, whatever he is suggesting?