The latest in an endless flurry of escalating reports alleging Russia “hacked the US election,” NBC News is reporting tonight that Russian President Vladimir Putin “personally” directed the entire hacking campaign against Hillary Clinton, with the narrative suggesting he did so primarily because of a “personal vendetta” he had against her.
Accusations surrounding the hacking of Democratic Party websites were a centerpiece of Clinton’s campaign, with the underlying claim that Putin was plotting to get President-elect Donald Trump elected. The allegations started around the Democratic National Convention, when investigations into the hack of one of the sites revealed that the hacker used IP addresses in several countries, including Russia, in the operation.
That the word Russia appeared in the report was well short of “proof,” but was buttressed by a flurry of statements from anonymous officials claiming it was plausible that Russia was behind the plot. Many months later, NBC News continued to lean heavily on anonymous “senior officials” who claim the narrative as simply the “conclusion” of the intelligence community.
Actual evidence, however, appears every bit as scarce now as it did five months ago, and in that time a litany of questions have emerged which appear to shoot holes into the idea that this was some heavily-organized, highly secretive Russian plot, not the least of which is the hackers’ use of a free Russian email account and a Russian server for operations, and conducting apparently all of their business in English language.
While the NBC story draws dramatically broader conclusions than anything written back in July, it reads much the same, citing anonymous officials without evidence, and resting the argument heavily on the idea that it is conceivable.
The one named person that was quoted in the narrative, former Ambassador Michael McFaul, offered more of the same, insisting that Putin’s personal involvement would be “consistent with the Putin that I have watched and used to work with.”
That Putin had a “vendetta” against Hillary at all was similarly based on the fact that Hillary demanded a “full investigation” of Russia’s 2011 election, claiming “fraud and intimidation” was behind Putin’s party winning a substantial plurality ahead of the second-place Communist Party.
Putin criticized the comments five years ago, and probably wasn’t keen on Clinton’s 2016 foreign policy campaigning centering around the idea of getting into a military conflict with Russia as a way to get “leverage” on them. Neither, however, comes close to supporting the idea that he was sitting at the keyboard with a team of top notch hackers orchestrating action against the Democratic Party.
Where this is all going remains to be seen, but the allegations haven’t starved to death from lack of evidence over the past several months, and so long as people can keep inventing new facets to the narrative it likely will last through a set of protracted Congressional investigations. In the meantime, Democrat electors seem to be holding out hope that the increasingly elaborate tales might convince the Electoral College to overturn the election result.
These people have gone mad. And they are making American people mad. Who they think they are?
They think they are the chosen ones. Calvinists. Anointed.
Isn’t the President of the United States really in charge of US foreign policy? Trump made sure that his strategy has been clear from the beginning, and it is in writing. It has been spelled in his Foreign Policy Strategy speech of April this year. Did they actually think he would just roll over, and do as told? It was possible for Hillary to take over Obama’s presidency day, but did they actually think to do that to Trump? He carried Republicans on his back, in spite of them kicking and screaming, and refusing to come along. Now, they are trying to direct him? Republicans better make sure they approve all of his picks, or else they will deeply regret it. If they reject Tillerson, Trump can run the State with deputies. Or better yet, find somebody with even more ties to Russia.
The more they repeat this nonsense the more ignorant they appear to anyone who isn’t dead set on believing it. In other words the people who desperately want to believe still believe and the rest of the world is seeing just how ridiculous our press has become.
By the way, each time I hear this drivel the REO Speedwagon song runs through my head. Heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another you been messing around. Only in this case there are another six “friends” inserted into the mix along the way as well as ten people explaining why it’s actually nonsense and wouldn’t have changed a dang thing anyway.
Did he press the Big Red Button? How much more ridiculous can this get?
Proof now may consists of that which is consistent with the possible.
And sometimes not even that.
Since 2008 the democrats have been involved in coups in Haiti, Ukraine, Argentina, Brazil, numerous attempts in Venezuela and a slew of regime change wars in the middle east and Africa. It now appears they are attempting one in ‘mericer after stealing the nomination, manipulating the alleged debates, attempting to subvert the Trump campaign, and lying with reckless abandon throughout the campaign without success. They ran a mean spirited lying thieving war monger. They were exposed and lost. “Put a sock in it.” Putin did not make them say or do any of the stupid venal crap. They did.it themselves. I do not support or vote for democrats or republicans ever. History is not on either of their sides.
And somehow Republicans weren’t complicit in this and other actions throughout they years.
Both parties back the same things. At least in the past, Dems approved of and fully funded all of Dubya’s wars, and likewise the Repubs fully supported Obama’s coups, assasination teams and war.
At least until Trump. What we just saw was a revolt of ordinary people from the right part of the spectrum. At least that’s what the votes said. We’ll have to wait and see whether or not Trump really meant anything he said, or if he’s just another con-man like Obama promising hope and change.
The people just voted to change these policies. We’ll see what they get.
They don’t have to be. They have the democrats to do their dirty work for them. NAFTA, possible SS privatization etc. etc. Plausible deniability. This allows charlatans like Trump to falsely pose as protectors of SS and Medicare.
If it were 2008 again you could write close to the same comment but just change 2008 to 2000, democrats to republicans and with a different group of victims. *Note* Some victims have been abused by both.
Holy wow!!!!!!! The DNC should hire Putin as a consultant!!! He has a grasp of American political culture and mass media that is unparalleled by American pundits or overpaid election consultants to have personally directed the operation. And Putin doesn’t even speak American!!!!
Two days ago, answering the question of Japanese journalist, how Putin himself explains his popularity among Russian people, Putin said: “I work honestly for the ordinary people of my country and the people see it”. It is correct, if people believe a politician works honestly for them, much can be pardoned. If a politician works for the corporate interest, it is also obvious. One can cheat people, but not a long time. The American establishment lost the support of the majority, people don’t trust them. The same story in Europe. Similar situation was in Soviet Union in late 80th, when anyone who is anti-establishment, can almost automatically rely upon support of the majority. The important thing is to work honest and not disappoint the ordinary people.
I wish Trump success. Losers must go.
Remember, Hillary ‘interfered’ with the Russian presidential elections of 2012. US money backed and helped ‘liberal’ candidates against Putin. The usual sources ranging from CIA to Mr. Soros were involved. Then, after the Russian people massively voted against the CIA backed candidates, they tried to stage the same-old-Colored-Revolution script, trying to organize street protests of people trying to claim ‘fraud’ in the election and overturn the result. Again, the Russian people refused to follow the CIA’s plan, and the protests were small and ineffectual.
Actually sounds eerily familar to recent American history. After the pro-CIA candidate was rejected by the American voters, suddenly and magically street protests and other schemes appear to try to overturn the result.
All of this happened in 2012, while Hillary was still taking bribes as Sec of State.
Of course as usual the ‘merican people forgot about all the interference in foreign elections, the regime changes, and the wars for global capitalist/corporate expansion falsely marketed as being in the interest of national security.
Not only do we have protect our national security , but often have had to intervene to prevent a humanitarian crises . A fake massacre or a false genocide .. These lying globalists always think of something to keep us in one war or another
Yep, they had applied the same trick in Georgia and Ukraine in 2004 with the Velvet and Orange Revolution respectively and then they did a violent overthrow in Ukraine in 2014 but the color was red.
Those same dirty tricks are now being used in the US to de-legitimatize Trump and try to prevent him from taking office. Washington is at war with itself
God has an amazing sense of humor.
Eric do you have any sources for this? Thanks in advance.
Boycott the MSM.A bunch of serial lying zionist traitors.
America First is the last thing zion wants to hear.It means their reign of terror is over.
Syria rejoices in DTs election.And so do all thinking humans who know the score,outside of ideologues.
Anything NBC “reports” can be taken with a grain of salt.
Forget the “grain” – bring on the dump truck.
However this manufactured hysteria affects the election, if at all, the most damaging part of it is that Russia and Putin are now firmly in place as dangerous enemies of the West. This is surely enough to return to cold war thinking, to MAD and to spending ten or twenty trillion on revamping the US’s weapon systems.
OBOMBUS and Killary are desperate since their PLANS are shot to hell!!!Soros and the Neo Cons are out of control!!! Panic time for them!! DT should put all his energy into taking them out of circulation via the courts as soon as he gets in!!! Otherwise this will keep on erupting to cause trouble!!ICharge and convict OBOMBUS and Killary for their Emails give them 5 years each!!! That will slow them down!
Why is the US rushing 4000 troops to the Russian border to make sure they are there before Obama et al leave office? If you look at the ridiculous propaganda offensive in connection with this other dot, it begins to look quite ominous. Does Obama intend to start a war with Russia before Donald Trump gets sworn into office?
One thing for sure, you won’t find any real answers from Fake News outfits like nbcnews.com. I’m only surprised they don’t have Brian Williams as the correspondent. Maybe he can add some personal stories about how he’s personally fought off Russian commandos.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201612151048600759-us-troops-europe-nato/
Putin is in their heads. I think they’ve seen too many heroic memes.
Dec 12, 2016 The CIA Russian Hacker / Wikileaks Leaker Has Been Identified?
In this video Luke Rudkowski covers the latest story of the CIA alleged Russian hack’s that got Donald Trump elected. We go over the breaking news of a UK Ambassador who says that he actually met the person or persons responsible and that they are DNC insiders not foriegn hackers.
https://youtu.be/WpPQ-_o5hSE
Since NBC offered no additional evidence for this claim of Putin’s involvement in the alleged “hack”, why is that news? Repeating a rumor or falsehood doesn’t add credibility. Repeating lies can’t turn them into the truth.
Just shows how compliant these outfits are in acting as stooges.
Note: they are not even claiming to have any proof. Pathetic.
Oh, I think there is a lonnnnggggg line of payback from these countries that the Democrats and establishment GOP have done to them. If you act badly toward others, don’t expect friendship in return, unless you are a bribed slave.
They sre trying to hit two birds with one stone. Besides Russia, Wikileaks stands accused of being Kremlin tool. Now they may not have a choice but to show a proof — leaked hard evidence. Because it was not received ectronically — they can find a way to offer a proof without revealing the source. And then start suing — a lots of deep pockets in Hiilary’s Foundation. The only way to stop the never ending, a d daily enhanced stream of fancifull accussations — is by hitting the pocketbook.