While the UNESCO resolution which recognized the al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem as a “Muslim holy site of worship” was barely reported around the world, and considered fairly non-controversial, Israeli officials have been expressing fury over the matter for two solid weeks.
And the Muslims may have a huge, ancient mosque that has been a key part of Islam for 1,300 years, but Israel has a small strip of papyrus they found in a cave, which they’re pretty sure is a far more conclusive document, since it mentioned the word Jerusalem and was written in Hebrew.
Israeli officials have claimed that the UNESCO resolution, in recognizing the mosque as important to Islam, was tantamount to denying Israel’s absolute and eternal control over the entire city of Jerusalem. Israeli Culture Minister Miri Regev said the papyrus strip proved Jerusalem “was and will remain the eternal capital of the Jewish people.”
The al-Aqsa mosque was built on a site which is believed to have previously housed an important Jewish temple, and some Israelis advocate the eventual destruction of the mosque and the construction of a new temple, though the details of such a construction would be hugely religiously complicated, and since the destruction of the mosque would undoubtedly start a massive war, it is considered unlikely. Still, the far-right government wants to ensure that they have some international precedent for their claim to the territory.
A Zionist strawman to justify the inhumanity of a settler
colony terrorist state.
Aww. The unesko filth has failed. Ha ha.
If authentic, the only thing the papyrus proves is that someone who wrote in Hebrew mentioned a goods transaction in Jerusalem. Basically, Israel is betting the farm on a 2,700 year old sales receipt. I’m rather embarrassed for Israel. Really? Is THAT the best you can do?
More Israeli fairy tales.
Dreamer.
More proof that islum builds mosques on top of other people’s sacred places.
I would say your words re-enforce why there are humans who don’t like you nutjobs.
Your actions are even worse,btw.The mirror never lies.
Lol
the ROMANS knocked the Temple down in 70 BC Islam didnt exist til 600 years later, go to Britain and you will find Christian churches built on old Druid sites all through the country! Should we be knocking down such structures as St Pauls and the seat of the Anglican Church itself a former Roman Catholic cathedral at Canterbury.
I tried to add to your examples of European historic layering and truths that come with it. But I noticed that this topic is — for some unknown reason to me — a no go territory. So, it gets intercepted, and deleted. I wish I knew why. All the information is available, much of it straight from Wikipedia. Mysterious are the ways of historic sensitivities — I wish we could just be human and accept the good and bad in history. Nobody is perfect.
“The slave merchants were all Jews” is not “history.”
Your choice of words is astounding. Please stick with the subject — slave trade out of Crimea. it makes things simpler and unambiguous.
I just realized that my text has not been published — yet it does appear that you had access to it — and are now smearing me in front of other readers by this remark that is beyond the pale. It id not just unfair — but dishonest.
This kind of behaviour is not worthy of this site. You can choose to publish authentic text — or appologize for the crude and insulting characterization of the text others had no chance to read.
the beni yisroel (according to the torah) murdered the Canaanite people and burned down their temples ruined their cities, took the animals and enslaved their women.
all because god said so.
hey, how come this hate speech was allowed on this “non hate speech website”
The Israelis are very heavily invested in archaeological excavations and studies aimed at verifying their ancient historical claims, but they have yet to come up with solid evidence that the exodus out of Egypt actually occurred. Even the ancient Egyptians, well known for their record keeping, don’t seem to have made any references to what would have been a pretty spectacular event (the parting of the Red Sea). Some modern Israeli archaeologists are putting forward a theory that the Hebrews did not come out of Egypt at all but were a slave class of the Canaanites who revolted at Jericho and overthrew their masters. The only connection with Egypt was due to the fact that at one time, Egypt ruled over a wide territory that included the land of Canaan.
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/the-jewish-thinker/were-jews-ever-really-slaves-in-egypt-or-is-passover-a-myth-1.420844
http://www.reformjudaism.org/were-jews-slaves-egypt
if you are going to base modern borders on what we can prove archeologically
then all of israel should belong to egypt.
Wouldn’t it be a wonderful world if all people went back thousands of years to claim sovereignty? What a recipe for total chaos, wars, and human death. The Native Americans would only need to go back a few hundred years to claim all of North America by virtue of finding some arrow heads in the United States and Canada.
Seriously they could go back and use the US and Canadian History books to prove they owned the land even the US Government treaties that were systematically broken, show that! Australia has done it with the Mabo II ruling in their High Court, we could continue all around the world!
Even in the case its real, Jerusalem was the capital of Judah, not Isreal which was the northern kingdom which having access to better water supply was far wealthier and and more important.
So when Israeli archaeologists find a fragment from 3000 BCE with a partial of the word “Philistia” on it, they’ll pull up their tents and hand over the territory to Crete.
Or the document will vanish.
This is hilarious. It’s just like Bibi Netanyahu (Mileikowsky) proudly proclaiming that a 2,000 year old ring found in Israel which he has on loan from an Israeli museum has his name, Netanyahu, inscribed on it, proving his lineage to the land. These European colonizers will do anything, change their names, ethnically cleanse the indigenous population, destroy the history, records and libraries of Palestinians and use the propaganda of the tribe’s best obfuscators (Bernays, Luntz) to perpetuate the big lie.
Which would mean it belongs to Christians. ‘Israel’ -in the Bible- refers to Christians…not Talmudic Judaics..
This is hilarious. But not much different what Vatican did and is still doing with its vast trove of historic documents. It releases only what is useful to them, and hides the rest. And in Middle Ages, they engaged in falsified manuscripts all over the place — many of them being proven false. But many are still treated as respectable historic documents, as it suits both Vatican and Western politics on Balkans. A document, De Administrando Imperio by Konstantin Porfirogenitius, is one such still used by historians, even though, it is clear where the passages were taken from, and the rather crude and primitive description of “greatness” of their catholicized favorites — is making one laugh. But, then, why cannot Israel play the same game?
Which all begs the question is the Torah a moral guide or a land deed?
If it was a land deed who notarized it? It seems all the witnesses had a vested interest.
The ink on the papyrus looks remamrkably well prserved, almost as if it was printed yesterday.
As it it is without a doubt absolutely genuine, the Israelis will have no objection to independent forensic scientists carrying out non-destructive analysis of this ink to see how it manages to look so fresh after thousands of years.
Erm… not quite. Only about 10,000 (20,000 tops) were sent to Babylon – out of an estimated population of 50K-75K. The bible says otherwise, but as usual the Bible is wrong… because it’s a work of fiction.
No, I wasn’t trying to correct you. I was correcting you.
If you don’t like the tone you get when you try to post hate speech, don’t try to post hate speech.
I was trying to be polite. Clearly, with such authoritarian tone and attitude that your comments exude, it is a waste of time.
You are making things up — my tone and attitude were in keeping with the practice of discussing any historic facts. You are insulting me — declaring a text a hate speech — knowing full well that readers cannot asses it, as it was deleted. I was not a hate speech, just the opposite. It was just a simple historic fact. I will always stand by historic data, as well as the manner I presented it. Perhaps not too polished, but not ill intended.
Your ugliness towards me is truly astounding. You just want to “win” over somebody — if that is your pleasure, by all means. I am sure others will have the pleasure of knowing you, and your “style”.
I do not have to defend myself against your smear job. But you will have to APPOLOGIZE over your attack on me, over simple, and plain facts. But the issue remains — why have this site become a hostage to somebody’s personal truths. You are ENTITLED to your personal truths, but please avoid scientific conversations. As you would lose.
You have no right to lecture me. Tone. Hate speech. No, I do not accept your smug attitude, and spewing untruths in the name of “hate speech”. This has been all done before — as a person that has lived through communism in Europe, your supremacist attitude gives me chills.
Sure, comrade. Whatever you say.
This experience on this site is, frankly, stunning. Totally unexpected. Does one have to always avoid some topics, to self censor, in order to be safe from derogatory putdowns, like yours. What on earth gives you right to call a simple historic fact — a hate speech. A bad tone? Indeed.
This was quite a lesson learned. Obviously, you can insult anyone — this site gives you the privilege. But you cannot fix history. There is no amount of “correcting” me — that will change one word of what I said. History on the subject has been written.
I suggest you do the reading — unless you are one of those people who think that only their people have always been the victims and never victimizers. If that is the case, then you are a bully, sir. Nothing can help you rise above your prejudices.
Yes, there were Jewish slave merchants. Just as there were slave merchants of other ethnicities. That’s trivial historical fact; idiots like Duke and Martin aren’t needed to “prove” it.
How nice it is to block an answer — quite factual to your comment. Well, let me see if you will approve it.
Seeing my reply to Bianca posted within 20 minutes,
may I ask if my reply to you more than a day ago is still in review or deleted?
Deleted.
Why do you need David Duke to “prove” anything. What a choice of “expertise”! Just read basic history. History of Crimea, for example.
Why not ? I don’t care about the personal believes of a person or if (s)he is an ‘expert’ on the subject as long as the info given is correct.
In this case I came across videos from David Duke ,Tony Martin and others.
Besides ,on expertise and experts. A lot of ‘experts’ tend to leave out information that contradicts their personal believes, the believes they were schooled in (by other ‘experts) and/or the consensus view on a subject. Or they try to twist/fix the facts to fit their point of view (or dismiss a fact as insignificant). Only to be corrected years later , most of the time by an outsider who was ignored , ridiculed , vilified or who had his/her career destroyed for opposing the view of those ‘experts’.
A problem to keep in mind when studying any subject.
islam is an abrahamic religion.
the temple was destroyed my romans and the area filled with trash by the chrisitians.
what does the qoran or mohhamid have to do with what the 2nd caliph did?
the torah never mentioned king david or the construction of the temple.